leg cramps

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I've used sea salt for years. I guess it's similar to organic sodium?

On another topic, do all you guys only eat items from the beneficial

list, or also the neutral list? I know the former is better, but for

variety...

> SC is a man made refined chemical, that will cause water

retention/high

> blood pressure etc....

> Organic sodium contains many necessary nutrients(minerals) that are

needed

> by the body to regulate important functions. etc...

> Try to find the book ULTIMATE HEALING SYSTEM by DONALD LEPORE.

> love

> RE: leg cramps

> >Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 09:18:05 -0400

> >

> > >>>>>>Most people don't need more salt.<<< - sorry Kathy, but

most

> people

> >do need organic salt. Not man made sodium chloride. Big

difference. If

> you

> >need an explanation, let me know.

> >love

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It all depends. Is it made by Hain? That is refined. Better then table salt,

but try buying the best. MURAMOTO, LIMA, CELTIC.

love

RE: leg cramps

> >Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 09:18:05 -0400

> >

> > >>>>>>Most people don't need more salt.<<< - sorry Kathy, but

most

> people

> >do need organic salt. Not man made sodium chloride. Big

difference. If

> you

> >need an explanation, let me know.

> >love

> >

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Hi,

It would get too boring eating that way all the time. Some of us on the

ER4YTtypeO list are doing a 3 week challenge on the beneficials. It's open

for all who would like to join in. There have been some comments about from

people who have gone only or mainly Beneficials about how much better they

feel and how much more energy they have, so we thought it would be a good

idea to try it together and be able to encourage each other, along with

making suggestions.

From: " E Long " <elongp@...>

> On another topic, do all you guys only eat items from the beneficial

> list, or also the neutral list? I know the former is better, but for

> variety...

[Guest guest]

Hi Lydia,

Yes I live in Colorado. In Denver. Have lived here all my life. I love the seasons and how they change so drastically within a few minutes time. I think it is great that you are not drinking, hard to get away from it so you should be very proud of your accomplishments. But to work in that type of environment had to have been torture you are very strong. I have leg cramps really bad I can't stretch when in bed. For me makes me fly out of bed in an instant. I hear leg cramps is a sign of low Potassium. I have low Potassium and take K-Dur every day after my transplant my Potassium level bottomed out and I kept fainting I fell twice in the hospital. Has your doctor said anything about it to you? You might want to ask.

gayle trans/6-99 ^oo^

galye@...

[Guest guest]

I had those cramps too. My family doctor put me on K-Dur (potassium

supplement) and those bad cramps went away. Also, be sure to only take

potassium if your doctor tells you to, if they are not supervised by

your doctor, they could be very dangerous.

-Clyde

[Guest guest]

Ive been told that I lack potassium, but I have a doctor that Im still

not too happy with. After my next visit in October, if he fails to

still answer my questions, I will definitely switch doctors. I also

want to get another biopsy, since the last one I had was

6 years ago and was diagnosed with cirrhosis. He only

prescribed lactulose.

Since I quit work, my legs cramps are gone, lol, I wonder why.

And working in a bar all my life and not drinking was easy,

I made up my mind to not drink and that was the end of that.

Take care.

Lydia Kay

[Guest guest]

Lydia,

You definitely need to confront your doctor and pursue the Potassium issue. It can be very harmful to your body be it high or low. And when you have jobs where you are on your legs for hours on cement also causes leg cramps. I do wish I could have some of your willpower to not drink, I maybe could be skinny.

gayle trans/6-99 ^oo^

galye@...

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When I exercise too long and don't drink enough water, or take a lasix to get rid of the water in my system, I get massive leg cramps. Actually, severe muscle cramps all over my body. My arms twist forward at the shoulder, my toes crinkle into differnt positions. But once I drink plenty of water, I am much better. And that takes care of the cramps for a while.

debby

[ ] Re: Leg Cramps

Ive been told that I lack potassium, but I have a doctor that Im stillnot too happy with. After my next visit in October, if he fails to still answer my questions, I will definitely switch doctors. I also want to get another biopsy, since the last one I had was 6 years ago and was diagnosed with cirrhosis. He only prescribed lactulose. Since I quit work, my legs cramps are gone, lol, I wonder why.And working in a bar all my life and not drinking was easy,I made up my mind to not drink and that was the end of that. Take care.Lydia Kay

[Guest guest]

Some people get leg cramps from a decrease level of potassium in their

bodies. OJ is a great source of potassium.

Carol

leg cramps

> Hi All,

> Has anyone had any leg cramps? I get this strange pain in right leg,

> just below the knee, from the outside to the inside and then down to my

> ankle. It doesn't feel like a muscle cramp, but like inside the bone.

> Walking or moving it doesn't help and the pain comes and goes often.

Just

> wondering if anyone else has had this and wondering if I am missing out on

> some vitamin or something to cuase a problem in my bone.

> Another question I had: my doc just put me on amitriptyline for chronic

> pain and I heard from one person that it can cause weight gain. Does

anyone

> know about that? I am 10 months post-op and I haven't lost any weight

for

> about 5 months so I surly don't wan't to put any weight back on!

> Thanks and I look forward to seeing you all ( that can come) at the

> Valentine Dance.

> Angels on your Pillow,

>

> Dr. R 3/20/01

> 268/ pre-op 242/ 170/??

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

good advice, also v8 juice, before anybody goes out and takes supplements,

be sure to talk to your doctor, potassium controls your heart!!!!!

Re: leg cramps

Some people get leg cramps from a decrease level of potassium in their

bodies. OJ is a great source of potassium.

Carol

leg cramps

> Hi All,

> Has anyone had any leg cramps? I get this strange pain in right leg,

> just below the knee, from the outside to the inside and then down to my

> ankle. It doesn't feel like a muscle cramp, but like inside the bone.

> Walking or moving it doesn't help and the pain comes and goes often.

Just

> wondering if anyone else has had this and wondering if I am missing out on

> some vitamin or something to cuase a problem in my bone.

> Another question I had: my doc just put me on amitriptyline for chronic

> pain and I heard from one person that it can cause weight gain. Does

anyone

> know about that? I am 10 months post-op and I haven't lost any weight

for

> about 5 months so I surly don't wan't to put any weight back on!

> Thanks and I look forward to seeing you all ( that can come) at the

> Valentine Dance.

> Angels on your Pillow,

>

> Dr. R 3/20/01

> 268/ pre-op 242/ 170/??

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I get the same cramps usually late at nite or early mornin in the bed...it

is so bad that i have to get up immediately and start walkin around then

that is so painful just to walk but i cant lay in the bed bc it hurts even

more...i emailed dr R about it and havent heard anything yet...im sure it

is a vitamin deficency of sum kind...guess i will find out next week when i

go for my one year check up......

~Kathy in NC~

2/14/01

At 12:04 PM 2/6/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>Hi All,

> Has anyone had any leg cramps? I get this strange pain in right leg,

>just below the knee, from the outside to the inside and then down to my

>ankle. It doesn't feel like a muscle cramp, but like inside the bone.

>Walking or moving it doesn't help and the pain comes and goes often. Just

>wondering if anyone else has had this and wondering if I am missing out on

>some vitamin or something to cuase a problem in my bone.

> Another question I had: my doc just put me on amitriptyline for chronic

>pain and I heard from one person that it can cause weight gain. Does anyone

>know about that? I am 10 months post-op and I haven't lost any weight for

>about 5 months so I surly don't wan't to put any weight back on!

> Thanks and I look forward to seeing you all ( that can come) at the

>Valentine Dance.

>Angels on your Pillow,

>

>Dr. R 3/20/01

>268/ pre-op 242/ 170/??

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Could someone tell me please, what measurement of the loose powder would be

equivalent

to 3000 mg of MSM?

Thanks,

Deanna

leg cramps

KJ, I get leg cramps if I don't take 3000 mg. of MSM. I don't have to take it

every day,

maybe just about every 4th day. I can feel it coming on if I don't remember to

take it, but

then after I take the MSM that feeling of beginning cramps goes away. It always

works

for me. I told an 83 year old friend about this and she was taking MSM, but only

2000 mg.

When she took the extra 1000, it made the difference for her, too. Thought this

might help

you. Tina in Idaho

[Guest guest]

Cathie,

Have your potassium levels checked. I had leg cramps, ignored them and was diagnoised with hypokalemia.

Chris

[Guest guest]

Cathie,

I have a lot of leg and foot cramps, I get them so bad the cramps wake me from a sound sleep. I can't remember why. Quinine water is supposed to be good to help the pain settle down. Check on your potassium can be from that. My potassium is way low all the time so the docs tripled my dose I went from 20 to 80 a day.

gayle/trans.6-99

galye@... @`

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[Guest guest]

You need calcium and magnesium for that.

Shireen

>From: " c reece " <maplecolors@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: [ ] Leg Cramps

>Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:31:37 -0500

>

>

>

>Hi all. I'm having a terrible problem with leg cramps, or " charlie

>horses " ,

>which come in the morning really bad and then throughout the day. I

>thought

>it might be one of the supplements, so I stopped all of them, and the only

>things I'm taking are my prednisone & ursodiol, and that's been 3 days ago,

>but I'm continuing with the leg cramps, which I didn't think were related

>to

>the meds or AIH or PBC. Anybody have this experience? and possibly an

>answer for me? Cathie

>

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[Guest guest]

Cathie, I have lot of cramping....all over...shoulder, thighs, calves...feet....hands...they really hurt. Don't know what the cause is.....hope someone can shed some light on this.

debby

[ ] Leg Cramps

Hi all. I'm having a terrible problem with leg cramps, or "charlie horses", which come in the morning really bad and then throughout the day. I thought it might be one of the supplements, so I stopped all of them, and the only things I'm taking are my prednisone & ursodiol, and that's been 3 days ago, but I'm continuing with the leg cramps, which I didn't think were related to the meds or AIH or PBC. Anybody have this experience? and possibly an answer for me? Cathie_________________________________________________________________MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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Cathie,

You might want to try taking a couple of Tums during the day. Sometimes the calcium is what is needed. However as Debby said it could also be your potassium level. The best option is to have your doctor do an electrolyte panel and see if anything is out of whack.

annMN

[ ] Leg Cramps

Hi all. I'm having a terrible problem with leg cramps, or "charlie horses", which come in the morning really bad and then throughout the day. I thought it might be one of the supplements, so I stopped all of them, and the only things I'm taking are my prednisone & ursodiol, and that's been 3 days ago, but I'm continuing with the leg cramps, which I didn't think were related to the meds or AIH or PBC. Anybody have this experience? and possibly an answer for me? Cathie_________________________________________________________________MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

[Guest guest]

Hi Cathie,

I had bouts of leg cramps too, when I was

on 30 mg prednisone. They were very painful. As the dosage was lowered to 5 mg they

have gone away. Ask your doctor what to do.

Take care,

[ ] Leg

Cramps

Hi all. I'm having a terrible problem with

leg cramps, or " charlie horses " ,

which come in the morning really bad and then

throughout the day. I thought

it might be one of the supplements, so I stopped

all of them, and the only

things I'm taking are my prednisone &

ursodiol, and that's been 3 days ago,

but I'm continuing with the leg cramps, which I

didn't think were related to

the meds or AIH or PBC. Anybody have this

experience? and possibly an

answer for me? Cathie

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[Guest guest]

Cathie, The first thing you need to do about your leg cramps is

to have your potassium level checked. That causes terrible cramps

if you should have a low level. I know we all have different

experiences with different things, but this turned out to be

my problem. Yours could be something else, but this is worth a try.

If my level is below a 3 I think I will die with cramps. It is worth a try.

Janice in Ark

From: " c reece " <maplecolors@...>

Reply-

Subject: [ ] Leg Cramps

Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:31:37 -0500

Hi all. I'm having a terrible problem with leg cramps, or " charlie horses " ,

which come in the morning really bad and then throughout the day. I thought

it might be one of the supplements, so I stopped all of them, and the only

things I'm taking are my prednisone & ursodiol, and that's been 3 days ago,

but I'm continuing with the leg cramps, which I didn't think were related to

the meds or AIH or PBC. Anybody have this experience? and possibly an

answer for me? Cathie

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Hi ,

I'm sorry you are getting leg cramps, no fun. I find I get them

when I don't drink enough water. I take potassium, and calcium

supplements which make them go away for me. I was eating banannas

but that didn't always work. You might ask your doctor whether you

need potassium and calcium supplements. I think we do have problems

getting any of our nutrients properly, and I think calcium and

potassium are two that I find especially hard to absorb just through

my diet. I don't tolerate dairy products well either, so I need the

supplement. I hope you feel better.

Ruth

>

>

> Hi all. I'm having a terrible problem with leg cramps, or " charlie

horses " ,

> which come in the morning really bad and then throughout the day.

I thought

> it might be one of the supplements, so I stopped all of them, and

the only

> things I'm taking are my prednisone & ursodiol, and that's been 3

days ago,

> but I'm continuing with the leg cramps, which I didn't think were

related to

> the meds or AIH or PBC. Anybody have this experience? and possibly

an

> answer for me? Cathie

>

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[Guest guest]

you need more potassium, eat banana's

leg cramps

Hi everyone I have a short problem I hope maybe someone might have

the answer. It seems the more weight I lose the worse leg cramps I

receive. I work out almost daily but the cramps are sometimes late

afternoon and I do drink plenty of water. I also take mag/potassium

supplements. That seemed to help but now they are back and so

painful I cant move sometimes. When I was heavy I never had them.. I

get so stiff even though I stretch everyday. I hope you can help

me.

[Guest guest]

I have heard leg cramps are associated with low potassium? Have you looked

into that? Are we allowed to take potassium tablets? I used to take them when

I was doing Atkins.

B

[Guest guest]

Nocturnal leg and feet cramps can be caused by standing for prolonged

periods on concrete, staying on your feet for longer periods of time than

usual.

Also, they may be caused by deficiencies in potassium, magnesium, sodium or

calcium.

Tums, gatorade will help w/ the deficiencies. I'd say get a lab test for

electrolytes if you haven't already. At a year out are you doing the

gatorade and supplements, vitamins " religiously " ?

As always, there are other more serious possibilities that your doctor would

know about, but less common.

April in KCMO

12/13/02

238/194

[Guest guest]

,

I am a massage therapist and have lots of clients with nocturnal and diurnal

leg cramps. First of all, try increasing your water. If that doesn't work,

increase your potassium via either food (bananas, baked potatoes, raisins),

Gatorade, or supplements.

Hope this helps.

In Spirit,

Varda

Wilmington, NC

PostOp 10/16/02 Dr. R.

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[Guest guest]

These cramps are caused by having too little potassium, calcium and/or

magnesium. Prior to the surgery, I used to get cramps in both my legs

and my waist muscles. A doctor orginally told me that this was caused by

a potassium deficiency, but I found out it can be any or all of them. I

use muscle cramps as my indicator that I am not getting enough of these

minerals.

, Ph.D.

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Burke, VA 22015