leg cramps

[Guest guest]

Hello everyone,

Still trying to catch up on the e-mail. I also had leg cramps with

Graves and I was working out side in the 90 degree summer. I would wake

up in the middle of the night

and would have to get my girl friend to pull my legs straight because I

was in to much pain to do it myself. So I started eating two bananas

before bed time and this stopped the cramps completely. Potassium helps

cramps.

Raven

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for this tip, Raven. I also have had cramps and it was painful. The

muscles twitch a bit too.

teresa

Re: Leg cramps

Hello everyone,

Still trying to catch up on the e-mail. I also had leg cramps with

Graves and I was working out side in the 90 degree summer. I would wake

up in the middle of the night

and would have to get my girl friend to pull my legs straight because I

was in to much pain to do it myself. So I started eating two bananas

before bed time and this stopped the cramps completely. Potassium helps

cramps.

Raven

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[Guest guest]

Now , leg cramps and tonsils, that is a really far stretch. LOL LOL LOL

Connie, MI

[Guest guest]

--- Cslyme@... wrote:

> From: Cslyme@...

>

> Now , leg cramps and tonsils, that is a really

> far stretch. LOL LOL LOL

> Connie, MI

> Connie-

I swear thats what the doc did when I was younger! I have always

wondered why my parents didnt question it but guess they had the " the

doctor always knows best " mentality. I know I would get up and walk out

if my doctor were to suggest that for Ang. Maybe my tonsils were

connected to my knees.LOL

One thing I do know is that the leg pain didnt get better until I got

older(done growing) so I had my tonsils out for nothing.

L

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Leg cramps and tonsil removal??? Oh my ... rofl!!! I know my appendix is

in the wrong spot but I've never heard of anyone having tonsils in their

legs. , did you get into the Guinness Book of World Records or Ripley's

Believe It ot Not???? :-)

Ann

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--- <jeand@...> wrote:

> From: " " <jeand@...>

>

> Leg cramps and tonsil removal??? Oh my ... rofl!!!

> I know my appendix is

> in the wrong spot but I've never heard of anyone

> having tonsils in their

> legs. , did you get into the Guinness Book of

> World Records or Ripley's

> Believe It ot Not???? :-)

>

> Ann

>

> Ann-

Nope didnt get into any books but guess I dont have to worry about

tonsilitis anymore.LOL

When I checked with my Mom she verified that she took me to the doctor

for the pains in my legs and he told her I needed my tonsils out so out

they came. When I asked her why she never questioned him she said that

every kid got their tonsils out back then and she thought it must have

been true and he was the doctor not her. Like I said she used to suffer

from the " Doctors know all and never question them " mentality. I have

since given her an education and now she questions everything or calls

me to ask my opinion and then follows up with a list of questions. At

least it was only my tonsils!

L

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[Guest guest]

, this will be quick for now as I have 3 granddaughters waiting for us

to take them to a Xmas party. But extra calcium will help ease the cramps

once your body gets what it needs and also when the cramp is happening if

you rub that part of your leg with ice it will take it away. If it is low

in the leg or in your foot I would stand on the ice. I used to keep an old

soap bottle with water in it and freeze it so I could get it quick to stand

on or rub. If your cramps are like mine, the shock of the ice won't even

bother you because it will bring the relief. Hope this helps. SKippy

rheumatic Leg Cramps

>From: KPSB2@...

>

>Hello I have been having some terrible leg cramps charley horses which wake

>me up several times during my sleeping time.. I have hardening of the

>arteries in both my leg arteries. ( Illium arteries) Does anyone know what

>to do for the cramps? I think I have Diabetes. I can't tell temps very good

>with my feet so I burned them in the bath last night trying to get them

warm.

>Now they hurt. My leg muscles are aching too from all the cramping going

on

>day after day.

> Any advise?

>

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[Guest guest]

, When my daughter was very young she had very bad cramps in her legs.

The doctor said she needed extra calcium and because she would later be

having periods he suggested she take it along with magnesium so that she

would not be troubled with menstrual cramps at a later age. The extra

calcium and magnesium worked wonders for her. Maybe it will for you also.

HTH Carol/Piney

rheumatic Leg Cramps

> From: KPSB2@...

>

> Hello I have been having some terrible leg cramps charley horses which

wake

> me up several times during my sleeping time.. I have hardening of the

> arteries in both my leg arteries. ( Illium arteries) Does anyone know

what

> to do for the cramps? I think I have Diabetes. I can't tell temps very

good

> with my feet so I burned them in the bath last night trying to get them

warm.

> Now they hurt. My leg muscles are aching too from all the cramping going

on

> day after day.

> Any advise?

>

> >

[Guest guest]

> From: KPSB2@...

>

> Hello I have been having some terrible leg cramps charley horses which

wake

> me up several times during my sleeping time.. I have hardening of the

> arteries in both my leg arteries. ( Illium arteries) Does anyone know

what

> to do for the cramps? I think I have Diabetes. I can't tell temps very

good

> with my feet so I burned them in the bath last night trying to get them

warm.

> Now they hurt. My leg muscles are aching too from all the cramping going

on

> day after day.

> Any advise?

If you can possibly afford it get to an endocrinologist and find out if you

are diabetic. Then I would strongly suggest that you buy a paperback book

called PROTEIN POWER by Eades and Eades. Get yourself on this low

carbohydrate diet. It will greatly relieve the problems of diabetes and

maybe save you from heart trouble and leg amputation down the road. It will

also start to relieve the circulation problem gradually. The book is only

about $7 and could save your life. My endocrinologist recommends this type

of diet for all diabetics. Once you get the hang of it, it is easy to do

and you lose weight and don't feel hungry.

Best wishes,

a Carnes

[Guest guest]

Also, if you take a calcium supplement be sure to not take it the same time

you take your multivitamin with iron. The iron prohibits the absorption of

the calcium. Take them at different times of the day.

~Laury

[Guest guest]

Hi

I had been having a lot of leg cramps and was to my PCP doctor twice and I

talked with my cardiologist's nurse twice on the phone about it. He tried

anti inflamitory meds and that didn't work. They took blood work to see if

it was the lipitor causing muscle breakdown. Nothing showed up. So he

finally took me off lipitor and put me on something else and my legs are

getting better. I hope that doesn't come back again. It was miserable

and hard to walk. Have any of you ever had trouble with leg cramps? If

so, what did they say it was? I had to go back on lasix also.

Ruth in PA

[Guest guest]

Ruth,

As I understand it, Lipitor can cause cramping... it's one of the

listed possible side effects... also, Lasix can deplete your system

of potassium causing leg/muscle cramps... a banana a day often helps

w/this ... I've also heard of persons drinking quine water... but I

think one has to be careful w/that... I'd ask my dr first, then if

he/she approves give it a try... FYI, here's a site on potassium

http://www.vitaminsplus.com/vplus/potassium.htm ... remember, it's

best to discuss all info w/your healthcare provider prior to

following any advice found on this or any other board. Good

luck, 'hope you're feeling better soon...

JES in NJ, USA

God created your face... You create the expression

> Hi

>

> I had been having a lot of leg cramps and was to my PCP doctor

twice and I

> talked with my cardiologist's nurse twice on the phone about it.

He tried

> anti inflamitory meds and that didn't work. They took blood work

to see if

> it was the lipitor causing muscle breakdown. Nothing showed up.

So he

> finally took me off lipitor and put me on something else and my

legs are

> getting better. I hope that doesn't come back again. It was

miserable

> and hard to walk. Have any of you ever had trouble with leg

cramps? If

> so, what did they say it was? I had to go back on lasix also.

>

> Ruth in PA

[Guest guest]

Jes in NJ

Thanks for the info. I think it's strange that the doctor waited so long

before changing my lipitor if they know it causes leg cramps. He told me to

eat bananas and I think I heard somewhere that cantaloupe has potassium too.

Do you know if that's right? What is quine water? I never heard of it.

Where are you in NJ? I have a cousin who lives in Bridgewater and she has

a defib. She's the one who told me about this list but I don't believe she

is on it. She's a teacher, has 2 children and is just too busy to be on

the computer much. I'm going to have to write her and tell her how much

this group of people here can help you out with information and support.

It's great.

Ruth in PA

[Guest guest]

Ruth... downside of not having spell check on msg boards... I meant

quinine/tonic water... some say they get relief from leg cramps if

they drink it... but you must watch if you have other health issues.

JES...

BTW... I'm south of Atlantic City...

> Jes in NJ

>

> Thanks for the info. I think it's strange that the doctor waited

so long

> before changing my lipitor if they know it causes leg cramps. He

told me to

> eat bananas and I think I heard somewhere that cantaloupe has

potassium too.

> Do you know if that's right? What is quine water? I never heard

of it.

>

> Where are you in NJ? I have a cousin who lives in Bridgewater and

she has

> a defib. She's the one who told me about this list but I don't

believe she

> is on it. She's a teacher, has 2 children and is just too busy to

be on

> the computer much. I'm going to have to write her and tell her how

much

> this group of people here can help you out with information and

support.

> It's great.

>

> Ruth in PA

[Guest guest]

Ruth:

I have had a similar problem, and I think that most of your problem

comes, not from the Lipitor, but from the Lasix. As a diuretic, Lasix

causes your body to shed excess fluid, but it also eliminates potassium

and Magnesium. My doctor put me on Potassium and Magnesium supplements,

and the cramps are gone. I am still taking Lipitor (my cholesterol is

188) and Lasix. In addition, sleeping with your legs directly under a

ceiling fan, etc. can cause cramps. Good luck - those cramps can be

miserable.

--

Mike Nolan

Webmaster, Good Deale Bluegrass Shoppe

" Dealing in all things Bluegrass "

http://www.gooddealebluegrass.com

[Guest guest]

Mike - agree with you -- I was allergic to the lasix, so I couldn't use it long,

I am on Edecrin, and I also take magnesium and postassium supplements, and have

never had the leg cramping....

Ruth - hope that info helps.

~guin

Mike Nolan wrote:

> Ruth:

> I have had a similar problem, and I think that most of your problem

> comes, not from the Lipitor, but from the Lasix. As a diuretic, Lasix

> causes your body to shed excess fluid, but it also eliminates potassium

> and Magnesium. My doctor put me on Potassium and Magnesium supplements,

> and the cramps are gone. I am still taking Lipitor (my cholesterol is

> 188) and Lasix. In addition, sleeping with your legs directly under a

> ceiling fan, etc. can cause cramps. Good luck - those cramps can be

> miserable.

>

> --

> Mike Nolan

>

> Webmaster, Good Deale Bluegrass Shoppe

> " Dealing in all things Bluegrass "

>

> http://www.gooddealebluegrass.com

>

> Please visit the Zapper homepage at

> http://www.ZapLife.org

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mike,

I had been off lasix for a year and just had to go back on it because I

started having problems with fluid again. The said the blood worked showed

that my potassium was ok but didn't mention magnesium. I do sleep with a

fan on in my room because it is easier to breathe but I don't have it

directly on my legs. Do you think that could still be it? The cramps do

seem better since I'm not taking lipitor but not sure yet because it comes

and goes and you are right, those cramps can be miserable. I get so tired

of hurting all the time.

Thanks for the info.

Ruth in PA

[Guest guest]

Jes in NJ

I still don't know what the quinine/water tonic is. Can you help me out?

I do take a lot of meds and would be afraid to take something without

doctor's permission. I just wondered what it is and what it is for.

Ruth in PA

[Guest guest]

You should be able to find it in grocery store in the soda isle... I

can't explain it other than it's tonic water... it contains

quinine ... but I would definetly ask doc before taking it...

especially in large doses.

> Jes in NJ

>

> I still don't know what the quinine/water tonic is. Can you help

me out?

> I do take a lot of meds and would be afraid to take something

without

> doctor's permission. I just wondered what it is and what it is for.

>

> Ruth in PA

[Guest guest]

hEY mIKE....

We KNOW why __you__ get leg cramps: Toe tappin' to peppy music!

Banjoy & Gitfiddlin will get you all the time. If your tunes are

on CD... and we can get them via amazon.com.... we ought to put them

in our ZapStore!

Duffey

[Guest guest]

Mike

So you play some music and do some toe tapping??? What do you play?

Tell us more about it. I play the accordion. ) Not much demand for

them anymore. I just play in church once in a while.

Ruth in PA

[Guest guest]

In my experience magnesium is the most necessary

nutrients for cramps. Calcium is needed but magnesium

is more necessary.

Most people don't need more salt. A rare few do need

salt.

Water is important but you can drink too much.

Average need is half your body weight in ounces, more

if losing lots of fluid (sweat, dry air).

KM

--- Lise Madsen <lise@...> wrote:

> I have recently been experiencing strong muscle

> contractions ('cramps') in

> my legs, even at night when sleeping. Can anybody

> think of a reason

> connected to the O diet which could cause this, or

> is it due to lack of some

> mineral. Is it due to lack of salt ?

>

> On something else, I think it was who said in

> a mail that the O diet

> should typically consist of 45% meat. Is that 45% of

> daily calories?

>

> Many thanks

>

> Lise

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

>>>>>>Most people don't need more salt.<<< - sorry Kathy, but most people

do need organic salt. Not man made sodium chloride. Big difference. If you

need an explanation, let me know.

love

Re: leg cramps

In my experience magnesium is the most necessary

nutrients for cramps. Calcium is needed but magnesium

is more necessary.

Most people don't need more salt. A rare few do need

salt.

Water is important but you can drink too much.

Average need is half your body weight in ounces, more

if losing lots of fluid (sweat, dry air).

KM

--- Lise Madsen <lise@...> wrote:

> I have recently been experiencing strong muscle

> contractions ('cramps') in

> my legs, even at night when sleeping. Can anybody

> think of a reason

> connected to the O diet which could cause this, or

> is it due to lack of some

> mineral. Is it due to lack of salt ?

>

> On something else, I think it was who said in

> a mail that the O diet

> should typically consist of 45% meat. Is that 45% of

> daily calories?

>

> Many thanks

>

> Lise

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

,

what is the difference between organic salt & sodium chloride as mentioned

below? I'm sure most people know, but I don't. Personally, I don't eat

much salt, and when I do, it's the normal table variety, which I presume is

SC. Would that cause problems, and what type?

Thanks

PS. where do u get all your info from?

>From: " Dekany " <info@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: RE: leg cramps

>Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 09:18:05 -0400

>

> >>>>>>Most people don't need more salt.<<< - sorry Kathy, but most people

>do need organic salt. Not man made sodium chloride. Big difference. If you

>need an explanation, let me know.

>love

>

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[Guest guest]

SC is a man made refined chemical, that will cause water retention/high

blood pressure etc....

Organic sodium contains many necessary nutrients(minerals) that are needed

by the body to regulate important functions. etc...

Try to find the book ULTIMATE HEALING SYSTEM by DONALD LEPORE.

love

RE: leg cramps

>Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 09:18:05 -0400

>

> >>>>>>Most people don't need more salt.<<< - sorry Kathy, but most

people

>do need organic salt. Not man made sodium chloride. Big difference. If

you

>need an explanation, let me know.

>love

>

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