Guest guest Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Thanks, Sherry. I'll definitely give the Zantac a try. I think we even have some in the cabinet. If I can get rid of the nausea with the mtx, I will be really thrilled. Angie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Sharon, YOU ABSOLUTELY SHOULD NOT.......dont fix what aint broken. If your car drove well and your mechanic said you needed a new engine...would you get one. Many people have horrible MRIs but have no back pain...... if it is an episodic thing (the pain) I would treat it conservatively as you are doing. Deb RN From: spinal problems [mailto:spinal problems ] On Behalf Of hepburnbs Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 12:07 PM spinal problems Subject: Newbie with questions Hi, After spinal x-rays and an MRI, a neurosurgeon has recommended a fusion with titanium hardware for my spondylolesthesis and degenerative disk disease - L5/s1. This all came to light when I had intermittent numbness and tingling in my feet. During the period between my x-ray and the MRI, the GP sent me to PT. My feet stopped tingling. I very rarely have back pain. When I do, it can be traced to a specific strenuous activity. When I asked the neurosurgeon (a guy with minus interpersonal skills<g>) if I could wait on surgery, and if so, how long, he said " At your age, you'll probably live at least another 25 years. If you come to me when you're 80, I won't be able to help you. " (I'm 65) I have had excellent health all of my life and was blindsided by this issue. I'm at a total loss as to what to do now. I've read everything on line about my problems and back surgery. I've read all of the post 2001 books in my library on the subject. My GP says to do what the neuro says. The neurosurgeon is the head of his dept at a well-known university. He has done these surgeries for years. My " friends " have told me horror stories. I really want to know why I should have major intrusive surgery to (maybe) fix something that doesn't hurt. And, I don't know how to investigate the alternatives. Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks for listening. Sharon Hepburn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Ditto -Sharon My god, if your numbness goes away and you dont have back pain, you can manage with intermittent Physical Therapy, massage, swimming, hot baths, accupuncture, anything but surgery. RN Newbie with questions Hi, After spinal x-rays and an MRI, a neurosurgeon has recommended a fusion with titanium hardware for my spondylolesthesis and degenerative disk disease - L5/s1. This all came to light when I had intermittent numbness and tingling in my feet. During the period between my x-ray and the MRI, the GP sent me to PT. My feet stopped tingling. I very rarely have back pain. When I do, it can be traced to a specific strenuous activity. When I asked the neurosurgeon (a guy with minus interpersonal skills<g>) if I could wait on surgery, and if so, how long, he said " At your age, you'll probably live at least another 25 years. If you come to me when you're 80, I won't be able to help you. " (I'm 65) I have had excellent health all of my life and was blindsided by this issue. I'm at a total loss as to what to do now. I've read everything on line about my problems and back surgery. I've read all of the post 2001 books in my library on the subject. My GP says to do what the neuro says. The neurosurgeon is the head of his dept at a well-known university. He has done these surgeries for years. My " friends " have told me horror stories. I really want to know why I should have major intrusive surgery to (maybe) fix something that doesn't hurt. And, I don't know how to investigate the alternatives. Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks for listening. Sharon Hepburn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 hepburnbs wrote: My GP says to do what the neuro says. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ There is your answer... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 There could also be major advancement in this type of  spinal surgeries just around the corner. Would not that be an insenitive, the wait and see approach? Newbie with questions Hi, After spinal x-rays and an MRI, a neurosurgeon has recommended a fusion with titanium hardware for my spondylolesthesis and degenerative disk disease - L5/s1. This all came to light when I had intermittent numbness and tingling in my feet. During the period between my x-ray and the MRI, the GP sent me to PT. My feet stopped tingling. I very rarely have back pain. When I do, it can be traced to a specific strenuous activity. When I asked the neurosurgeon (a guy with minus interpersonal skills<g>) if I could wait on surgery, and if so, how long, he said " At your age, you'll probably live at least another 25 years. If you come to me when you're 80, I won't be able to help you. " (I'm 65) I have had excellent health all of my life and was blindsided by this issue. I'm at a total loss as to what to do now. I've read everything on line about my problems and back surgery. I've read all of the post 2001 books in my library on the subject. My GP says to do what the neuro says. The neurosurgeon is the head of his dept at a well-known university. He has done these surgeries for years. My " friends " have told me horror stories. I really want to know why I should have major intrusive surgery to (maybe) fix something that doesn't hurt. And, I don't know how to investigate the alternatives. Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks for listening. Sharon Hepburn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 To those of you who are RN's......Can you treat a cervical herniated disc conservatively and not cause further nerve damage? If the tingling in my hand is intermittent, (meaning off & on each day, but maybe not as consistent as previous) as well as the arm pain being no worse or leaning toward less painful than a month ago.....can I continue the conservation route and not worry about doing any further damage? My dr already has told me he can't guarantee the back pain will improve with the microdisectomy. I'm concerned that (as with any surgery) I'll have additional symptoms than when I went in???? Several yrs ago my dr told me my gallbladder was filled with stones and would cause me problems. I didn't question it, I had surgery. The surgery left me with the dumping syndrome (which I previously wasn't bothered with). RN's, your ideas on continuing treating the disc conservatively with exercise, etc ? Thanks, Ang > > Sharon, > > YOU ABSOLUTELY SHOULD NOT.......dont fix what aint broken. If your car > drove well and your mechanic said you needed a new engine...would you get > one. Many people have horrible MRIs but have no back pain...... if it is an > episodic thing (the pain) I would treat it conservatively as you are doing. > > Deb RN > > > > From: spinal problems > [mailto:spinal problems ] On Behalf Of hepburnbs > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 12:07 PM > spinal problems > Subject: Newbie with questions > > > > Hi, > > After spinal x-rays and an MRI, a neurosurgeon has recommended a fusion > with titanium hardware for my spondylolesthesis and degenerative disk > disease - L5/s1. This all came to light when I had intermittent > numbness and tingling in my feet. During the period between my x- ray > and the MRI, the GP sent me to PT. My feet stopped tingling. I very > rarely have back pain. When I do, it can be traced to a specific > strenuous activity. When I asked the neurosurgeon (a guy with minus > interpersonal skills<g>) if I could wait on surgery, and if so, how > long, he said " At your age, you'll probably live at least another 25 > years. If you come to me when you're 80, I won't be able to help > you. " (I'm 65) I have had excellent health all of my life and was > blindsided by this issue. > > I'm at a total loss as to what to do now. I've read everything on line > about my problems and back surgery. I've read all of the post 2001 > books in my library on the subject. My GP says to do what the neuro > says. The neurosurgeon is the head of his dept at a well-known > university. He has done these surgeries for years. My " friends " have > told me horror stories. I really want to know why I should have major > intrusive surgery to (maybe) fix something that doesn't hurt. And, I > don't know how to investigate the alternatives. > > Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks for listening. > Sharon Hepburn > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 I appreciate your questions, but this is not my area of experience. In 30 years, I have done a lot in nursing but not orthopedics or neuro. I am learning myself. I had asked re: getting a calcification in a muscle to resolve enough for PT to be successful. I had also asked re: when do you know you need surgery versus when can you get by with less? I need to ask if anyone has ever had thoracic outlet syndrome related to tight cervical muscles as well. I have not always had positive experiences with orthopods, but will be seeing a spinal OS in with a group of neurosurgeons. I am nervous about my appointment. I find some orthopods can be very overbearing, hardened and ignore their patients. (Mark this up to being 13 in bed with a fractured pelvis with one of the gruffest doctors in the business, plus nursing experience the few times I had to work orthopedics.) This is one reason I would like to have a way to gauge my symptoms to what others have experienced/felt so I would have an idea of what recommendations I might hear. I have found little re: changing a long term calcified muscles on the internet. I felt doing this, I would know whether to blindly accept whatever the OS says or if I need to request to try something different. The only advice I have for you is to ask your doctor how long you can postpone surgery. I do know there is a point in time where you have it done or you have gone too long/far for anything to work. Personally, I would lean towards being conservative if you can stand the symptoms. There comes a point when it interferes with life too much and then you have to ask what are the odds it can work. Vickie On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:59 PM, missygal1970 <angie360@...> wrote: > To those of you who are RN's......Can you treat a cervical herniated > disc conservatively and not cause further nerve damage? If the > tingling in my hand is intermittent, (meaning off & on each day, but > maybe not as consistent as previous) as well as the arm pain being no > worse or leaning toward less painful than a month ago.....can I > continue the conservation route and not worry about doing any further > damage? > > My dr already has told me he can't guarantee the back pain will > improve with the microdisectomy. I'm concerned that (as with any > surgery) I'll have additional symptoms than when I went in???? > Several yrs ago my dr told me my gallbladder was filled with stones > and would cause me problems. I didn't question it, I had surgery. > The surgery left me with the dumping syndrome (which I previously > wasn't bothered with). > > RN's, your ideas on continuing treating the disc conservatively with > exercise, etc ? > > Thanks, > Ang > > > > > > Sharon, > > > > YOU ABSOLUTELY SHOULD NOT.......dont fix what aint broken. If > your car > > drove well and your mechanic said you needed a new engine...would > you get > > one. Many people have horrible MRIs but have no back pain...... if > it is an > > episodic thing (the pain) I would treat it conservatively as you > are doing. > > > > Deb RN > > > > > > > > From: spinal problems <spinal problems%40gro\ ups.com> > > [mailto:spinal problems <spinal problems%40\ >] > On Behalf Of > hepburnbs > > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 12:07 PM > > To: spinal problems <spinal problems%40gro\ ups.com> > > Subject: Newbie with questions > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > After spinal x-rays and an MRI, a neurosurgeon has recommended a > fusion > > with titanium hardware for my spondylolesthesis and degenerative > disk > > disease - L5/s1. This all came to light when I had intermittent > > numbness and tingling in my feet. During the period between my x- > ray > > and the MRI, the GP sent me to PT. My feet stopped tingling. I very > > rarely have back pain. When I do, it can be traced to a specific > > strenuous activity. When I asked the neurosurgeon (a guy with minus > > interpersonal skills<g>) if I could wait on surgery, and if so, how > > long, he said " At your age, you'll probably live at least another > 25 > > years. If you come to me when you're 80, I won't be able to help > > you. " (I'm 65) I have had excellent health all of my life and was > > blindsided by this issue. > > > > I'm at a total loss as to what to do now. I've read everything on > line > > about my problems and back surgery. I've read all of the post 2001 > > books in my library on the subject. My GP says to do what the neuro > > says. The neurosurgeon is the head of his dept at a well-known > > university. He has done these surgeries for years. My " friends " > have > > told me horror stories. I really want to know why I should have > major > > intrusive surgery to (maybe) fix something that doesn't hurt. And, > I > > don't know how to investigate the alternatives. > > > > Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks for listening. > > Sharon Hepburn > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Treat conservatively as long as you are not having major neuro symptoms such as loss of bladder and bowel control and loss of balance and inability to walk.......so the answer is YES if the symptoms are lessening it sounds as though it is betting better. Deb RN From: spinal problems [mailto:spinal problems ] On Behalf Of missygal1970 Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 8:59 PM spinal problems Subject: Re: Newbie with questions To those of you who are RN's......Can you treat a cervical herniated disc conservatively and not cause further nerve damage? If the tingling in my hand is intermittent, (meaning off & on each day, but maybe not as consistent as previous) as well as the arm pain being no worse or leaning toward less painful than a month ago.....can I continue the conservation route and not worry about doing any further damage? My dr already has told me he can't guarantee the back pain will improve with the microdisectomy. I'm concerned that (as with any surgery) I'll have additional symptoms than when I went in???? Several yrs ago my dr told me my gallbladder was filled with stones and would cause me problems. I didn't question it, I had surgery. The surgery left me with the dumping syndrome (which I previously wasn't bothered with). RN's, your ideas on continuing treating the disc conservatively with exercise, etc ? Thanks, Ang > > Sharon, > > YOU ABSOLUTELY SHOULD NOT.......dont fix what aint broken. If your car > drove well and your mechanic said you needed a new engine...would you get > one. Many people have horrible MRIs but have no back pain...... if it is an > episodic thing (the pain) I would treat it conservatively as you are doing. > > Deb RN > > > > From: spinal problems <mailto:spinal problems%40> > [mailto:spinal problems <mailto:spinal problems%40> ] On Behalf Of hepburnbs > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 12:07 PM > spinal problems <mailto:spinal problems%40> > Subject: Newbie with questions > > > > Hi, > > After spinal x-rays and an MRI, a neurosurgeon has recommended a fusion > with titanium hardware for my spondylolesthesis and degenerative disk > disease - L5/s1. This all came to light when I had intermittent > numbness and tingling in my feet. During the period between my x- ray > and the MRI, the GP sent me to PT. My feet stopped tingling. I very > rarely have back pain. When I do, it can be traced to a specific > strenuous activity. When I asked the neurosurgeon (a guy with minus > interpersonal skills<g>) if I could wait on surgery, and if so, how > long, he said " At your age, you'll probably live at least another 25 > years. If you come to me when you're 80, I won't be able to help > you. " (I'm 65) I have had excellent health all of my life and was > blindsided by this issue. > > I'm at a total loss as to what to do now. I've read everything on line > about my problems and back surgery. I've read all of the post 2001 > books in my library on the subject. My GP says to do what the neuro > says. The neurosurgeon is the head of his dept at a well-known > university. He has done these surgeries for years. My " friends " have > told me horror stories. I really want to know why I should have major > intrusive surgery to (maybe) fix something that doesn't hurt. And, I > don't know how to investigate the alternatives. > > Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks for listening. > Sharon Hepburn > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Read my posting of last weekend. I am recovered from a herniated disc without surgery, and even without medical care. Tumpliner > > To those of you who are RN's......Can you treat a cervical herniated > disc conservatively and not cause further nerve damage? If the > tingling in my hand is intermittent, (meaning off & on each day, but > maybe not as consistent as previous) as well as the arm pain being no > worse or leaning toward less painful than a month ago.....can I > continue the conservation route and not worry about doing any further > damage? > > My dr already has told me he can't guarantee the back pain will > improve with the microdisectomy. I'm concerned that (as with any > surgery) I'll have additional symptoms than when I went in???? > Several yrs ago my dr told me my gallbladder was filled with stones > and would cause me problems. I didn't question it, I had surgery. > The surgery left me with the dumping syndrome (which I previously > wasn't bothered with). > > RN's, your ideas on continuing treating the disc conservatively with > exercise, etc ? > > Thanks, > Ang > > > > > > Sharon, > > > > YOU ABSOLUTELY SHOULD NOT.......dont fix what aint broken. If > your car > > drove well and your mechanic said you needed a new engine...would > you get > > one. Many people have horrible MRIs but have no back pain...... if > it is an > > episodic thing (the pain) I would treat it conservatively as you > are doing. > > > > Deb RN > > > > > > > > From: spinal problems > <mailto:spinal problems%40> > > [mailto:spinal problems > <mailto:spinal problems%40> ] On Behalf Of > hepburnbs > > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 12:07 PM > > spinal problems > <mailto:spinal problems%40> > > Subject: Newbie with questions > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > After spinal x-rays and an MRI, a neurosurgeon has recommended a > fusion > > with titanium hardware for my spondylolesthesis and degenerative > disk > > disease - L5/s1. This all came to light when I had intermittent > > numbness and tingling in my feet. During the period between my x- > ray > > and the MRI, the GP sent me to PT. My feet stopped tingling. I very > > rarely have back pain. When I do, it can be traced to a specific > > strenuous activity. When I asked the neurosurgeon (a guy with minus > > interpersonal skills<g>) if I could wait on surgery, and if so, how > > long, he said " At your age, you'll probably live at least another > 25 > > years. If you come to me when you're 80, I won't be able to help > > you. " (I'm 65) I have had excellent health all of my life and was > > blindsided by this issue. > > > > I'm at a total loss as to what to do now. I've read everything on > line > > about my problems and back surgery. I've read all of the post 2001 > > books in my library on the subject. My GP says to do what the neuro > > says. The neurosurgeon is the head of his dept at a well-known > > university. He has done these surgeries for years. My " friends " > have > > told me horror stories. I really want to know why I should have > major > > intrusive surgery to (maybe) fix something that doesn't hurt. And, > I > > don't know how to investigate the alternatives. > > > > Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks for listening. > > Sharon Hepburn > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Sharon, I agree with the RN... I had many episodes of back pain from digeneritive disk at L5-S1 and had fusion. I am worse off now with chronic daily low back pain that has changed my way of life big time... The only thing I would be concerend with is to get that numbness and tignling thing looked at further as more serious issues and damage could accure if you don't. Steve > > Sharon, > > YOU ABSOLUTELY SHOULD NOT.......dont fix what aint broken. If your car > drove well and your mechanic said you needed a new engine...would you get > one. Many people have horrible MRIs but have no back pain...... if it is an > episodic thing (the pain) I would treat it conservatively as you are doing. > > Deb RN > > > > From: spinal problems > [mailto:spinal problems ] On Behalf Of hepburnbs > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 12:07 PM > spinal problems > Subject: Newbie with questions > > > > Hi, > > After spinal x-rays and an MRI, a neurosurgeon has recommended a fusion > with titanium hardware for my spondylolesthesis and degenerative disk > disease - L5/s1. This all came to light when I had intermittent > numbness and tingling in my feet. During the period between my x- ray > and the MRI, the GP sent me to PT. My feet stopped tingling. I very > rarely have back pain. When I do, it can be traced to a specific > strenuous activity. When I asked the neurosurgeon (a guy with minus > interpersonal skills<g>) if I could wait on surgery, and if so, how > long, he said " At your age, you'll probably live at least another 25 > years. If you come to me when you're 80, I won't be able to help > you. " (I'm 65) I have had excellent health all of my life and was > blindsided by this issue. > > I'm at a total loss as to what to do now. I've read everything on line > about my problems and back surgery. I've read all of the post 2001 > books in my library on the subject. My GP says to do what the neuro > says. The neurosurgeon is the head of his dept at a well-known > university. He has done these surgeries for years. My " friends " have > told me horror stories. I really want to know why I should have major > intrusive surgery to (maybe) fix something that doesn't hurt. And, I > don't know how to investigate the alternatives. > > Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks for listening. > Sharon Hepburn > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Sharon, I would have to second or third that motion also, I have had the lower lumbar fusion done, I was 50 then, 51 now and I find laying in bed more than 5 hours I get a really sharp lower back pain and feels like I can't get up and when I do the pads of my feet are numb. My PM says my disc have not started drying yet my neuro recommended I have the surgery done, even though I know a PM is no neuro surgeon, but I tend to want to believe in the PM, but like you said, you have lived a very excellent life, and at the age of 80-85, will it make a difference? Besides Deb is a very good source of information, she has answered my questions with a 100% report card (A+). If you believe pray for a decision. I hope you can find the way. Newbie with questions > > > > Hi, > > After spinal x-rays and an MRI, a neurosurgeon has recommended a fusion > with titanium hardware for my spondylolesthesis and degenerative disk > disease - L5/s1. This all came to light when I had intermittent > numbness and tingling in my feet. During the period between my x- ray > and the MRI, the GP sent me to PT. My feet stopped tingling. I very > rarely have back pain. When I do, it can be traced to a specific > strenuous activity. When I asked the neurosurgeon (a guy with minus > interpersonal skills<g>) if I could wait on surgery, and if so, how > long, he said " At your age, you'll probably live at least another 25 > years. If you come to me when you're 80, I won't be able to help > you. " (I'm 65) I have had excellent health all of my life and was > blindsided by this issue. > > I'm at a total loss as to what to do now. I've read everything on line > about my problems and back surgery. I've read all of the post 2001 > books in my library on the subject. My GP says to do what the neuro > says. The neurosurgeon is the head of his dept at a well-known > university. He has done these surgeries for years. My " friends " have > told me horror stories. I really want to know why I should have major > intrusive surgery to (maybe) fix something that doesn't hurt. And, I > don't know how to investigate the alternatives. > > Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks for listening. > Sharon Hepburn > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Thanks for the sweet words....they are appreciated.. Deb RN From: spinal problems [mailto:spinal problems ] On Behalf Of Lambert Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 8:31 PM spinal problems Subject: Re: Newbie with questions Sharon, I would have to second or third that motion also, I have had the lower lumbar fusion done, I was 50 then, 51 now and I find laying in bed more than 5 hours I get a really sharp lower back pain and feels like I can't get up and when I do the pads of my feet are numb. My PM says my disc have not started drying yet my neuro recommended I have the surgery done, even though I know a PM is no neuro surgeon, but I tend to want to believe in the PM, but like you said, you have lived a very excellent life, and at the age of 80-85, will it make a difference? Besides Deb is a very good source of information, she has answered my questions with a 100% report card (A+). If you believe pray for a decision. I hope you can find the way. Newbie with questions > > > > Hi, > > After spinal x-rays and an MRI, a neurosurgeon has recommended a fusion > with titanium hardware for my spondylolesthesis and degenerative disk > disease - L5/s1. This all came to light when I had intermittent > numbness and tingling in my feet. During the period between my x- ray > and the MRI, the GP sent me to PT. My feet stopped tingling. I very > rarely have back pain. When I do, it can be traced to a specific > strenuous activity. When I asked the neurosurgeon (a guy with minus > interpersonal skills<g>) if I could wait on surgery, and if so, how > long, he said " At your age, you'll probably live at least another 25 > years. If you come to me when you're 80, I won't be able to help > you. " (I'm 65) I have had excellent health all of my life and was > blindsided by this issue. > > I'm at a total loss as to what to do now. I've read everything on line > about my problems and back surgery. I've read all of the post 2001 > books in my library on the subject. My GP says to do what the neuro > says. The neurosurgeon is the head of his dept at a well-known > university. He has done these surgeries for years. My " friends " have > told me horror stories. I really want to know why I should have major > intrusive surgery to (maybe) fix something that doesn't hurt. And, I > don't know how to investigate the alternatives. > > Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks for listening. > Sharon Hepburn > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 for hashimoto and ldn you might want to join this group. http://www.ahsta.com/Home/tabid/90/Default.aspx the pil is dissolved after a short time,you will see it.the important thing is to shake it good before use. when they talk about gel then it is ready made gel.made in the pharmacy > > Hello, > > I'm so happy to have found this list, after finding the ldn site, my endo agreed to a 2 month trial of ldn for Hashimoto's (and if it is successful, I'm going to submit myself as a case study for publication). I did a search for thyroid on messages and didn't find anything, so I hope somebody can help with my questions. > I saw that thyroid sufferers should start with 1.5 and move to 4.5, but I don't know how fast to move up. I was also wondering how long the dissolved tablet solution will retain efficacy in the refrigerator. I also saw something about a gel, but couldn't find any instructions for mixing the tablet into a gel (the solution tastes pretty bad, I'd love a topical gel). > Thanks for any help you can provide, tonight will be day 3 of 1.5 and I'm really hoping this works!! > > Jill > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 > > Hello, > > I am new here. > > I have some questions I hope its okay to ask. > > 1) Does Candida affect sensory issues such as being sensitive to lights (such as fatiguing under fluorescent tubes, etc.) +++Hi Hannah. Welcome to our group. Fluorescent lights deplete the body of vitamin A, and being sensitive to any lights is due to lack of, or imbalances, in vitamin A and D and other " good " fats (they all work together). That's why I recommend taking cod liver oil: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/cod2.php +++The diet and all supplements work together, so ensure you take all of them: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/supp1.php > > 2) Where can I find a " safe food " list? +++All of the lists and articles are on my website, so you can search for anything - here's the food list: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/foodslist.php > > 3) If a blood test comes back as false negitive what other tests other than internal examinations can be done to see if yeast is a feeder? Nurse doesn't want to do a skin test due to allergies. +++No tests can be accurate for having candida - see this article: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro3.php The best to you, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Hi, Jane. Yeah cottons' fine. 3-6 volts should be fine, eurovolts or yankeevolts, same deal. find your own best pads/device, it's really that simple. stick a wire end into the damp cloth and apply. if it irritates, add more cloth or lower the volts. do a few times a day, for 5-10 minutes reverse the pads every 5 min or so. Place on either side of infected area, outside mouth is fine. If wrapped up in a cigarette-cigar sized roll you can lay one of them alongside the gumline, too, just to punish those germs but it may not be needed. teeth hurt from 3 things, infection, pressure, death of nerve. infections this should help with, pressure will have to subside, try ice, etc. nerves dying hurt and don't stop dying just because infection goes away. they get " offended " and die off, leaving dead junk in the root canal areas. Ask any dentist or endo-dontist they should be able to confirm this or amplify on my simple explanations. Some people do get lasting relief depending what's happening in there. I have got 3 months relief then the tooth just collapsed and the nerve was exposed raw. No way electricity will fix that. So, best of luck, and keep us posted here. bG > > Hello, > > A few days ago, I came across this group by reading a post in another group. > > What a wonderful group this is! > I've been reading back in the post and going through the Files section for the past days, and am very excited about this MicroElectricity concept. > > Currently, I'm looking to control a dental problem until I can afford to go to the torturer and have the work done. The main problem is infections (and pain, obviously). > > I have some questions: > > - What kind of device would you recommend that I try to build when it will be mainly used fot gum issues? - I have seen people refer to other designs than the Godzilla, but have been unable to locate any schematics or descriptions of these in the Files or Photos section. > Is there a website that has these other designs? > > - I have watched a lecture by Bob Beck about his electrolizer/zapper, where he again and again warns about the dangers of consuming garlic, onions and prescription drugs around using this zapper. Does the same apply to your group's concept(s)? I have not seen any warnings about it when reading back in the archives. To a newbie like myself, it seems Beck's system is the same as your system? What's the difference? Or ARE there realy dangers involved with garlic etc when using something like the Godzilla? Is there anything you have to avoid eating/drinking when using your system? > > - What about amalgam [mercury] fillings and using MicroElectricity? > Doesn't sending current through the filling heat up the mercury, which will have it leech off more mercury fumes than usually and send excess mercury to your system? > > - I see some posts about controlling voltate/current with some sort of a device/meter. What exactly is this. What is it called and where can one get this? I'm horribly inept with matters of electronics, so please excuse my ignorance. Is it important to control the current/voltate? I'm assuming it is, since many here seem to be using it. > > - This is probably a silly question, but is there any difference in the batteries sold in Europe and America? I'm in Europe, and I think most of you are in the States. I just want to be sure I'm not going to end up electrocuting myself by using batteries not suited for the Godzilla (or whichever unit I end up building). > > - Materials for pads. Am I right in thinking that one can also use cotton instead of sponges for pads? Whatever the material, it just has to be wet, right? > I have a sponge phobia (yes, you may laugh). So it would really make things easier if I could use cotton instead. > > > Thank you for any feedback. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Hi bG, Many thanks for your answers. Could you advise me on the device needed to control current/volts/amps, please? I understand this is used to send more/less electricity through? I'd like to get a unit, unless its too expensive. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 sure, scissors and a knife will do .. you either cut the insulation back on the wire, exposing more wire to the sponge or cloth, or you snip off some of the wire to expose less wire. Less=less power, more=more power to ya. This is the easiest way to do it, or would you rather go to Radio Shack and buy: 100K Ohm Linear Potentiometer and solder the center and one of the outer terminals into one of the wires? Up to you, I personally have all that, and I still use knife and scissors, since it takes less time and is way cooler. bG > > Hi bG, > > Many thanks for your answers. > > Could you advise me on the device needed to control current/volts/amps, please? > > I understand this is used to send more/less electricity through? > I'd like to get a unit, unless its too expensive. > > > Thank you. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 I should explain, and I need to update those darned photos, too. We can simply take a sponge and stick the end of the wire into a slot in sponge. No forks, no " electrodes " needed anymore. I have found it does not matter and really the best is the easiest, fortunately for us all. Just strip the wire about an inch, and stick into a slot in the edge of the sponge so the bare wire goes in around the middle of the sponge. Try that using a 6volt battery. If too harsh, remove and trim back the exposed wire a little and try again. Keep on like that until you reach a point where it is right..meaning 10 minutes without skin irritation. Reverse the sponges position on the body every 5 minutes when using, to avoid electrolysis effects, which can sometimes show up as temporary soreness in nearby joints we have found. Over 10 minutes is needed to produce the soreness in many cases reporting in. bG > > > > Hi bG, > > > > Many thanks for your answers. > > > > Could you advise me on the device needed to control current/volts/amps, please? > > > > I understand this is used to send more/less electricity through? > > I'd like to get a unit, unless its too expensive. > > > > > > Thank you. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Thank you, bG. You cleared up some things for me. I'm aiming for building an apprentice unit this weekend or next week. I had to order a 6v battery online, as they were impossible to get where I live. (prior to this, I had never even heard of 6v batteries - I only know 1.5v & 9v) Wish me luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Certainly, good luck! You can combine 1.5's in a battery holder if they sell those near you. That also gives you 6 volts (4 batteries) in a smaller sized package, but you have to find the darned holders which usually sell at Radio Shack or similar electronics places. Some hardware stores might have them. bG > > Thank you, bG. > > You cleared up some things for me. > > I'm aiming for building an apprentice unit this weekend or next week. > I had to order a 6v battery online, as they were impossible to get where I live. (prior to this, I had never even heard of 6v batteries - I only know 1.5v & 9v) > > Wish me luck! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Hi Doug,I will be sleeved 2/15 and chose the sleeve after initially planning for the band for the following reasons.1) Superior weight loss with sleeve compared to band - this is confirmed in a number of peer-reviewed studies 2) Lower rate of complications - the band has proven to be problematic for many, although there are also folks who have found it to be successful for them. Complications of the band may include adhesions, erosion, slips etc. No thanks. 3) When the greater curvature of the stomach is removed, this affects the level of ghrelin in your system. Ghrelin, which is produced in that part of the stomach that is removed, is a hormone that stimulates hunger. Less ghrelin = less hunger. Although it appears that the body may start to produce some ghrelin after a couple years, this is not in the same amount as in your stomach prior to surgery. 4) Comparable weight loss to RNY, without the risk of malnutrition associated with a malabsorptive procedure.5) Ability to have a more normal diet once reaching maintenance phase6) I know a few people with the band who seem to spend a lot of time spitting up food, have a difficult time eating in general and it just grosses me out. Honestly, I would rather be fat than barfy. 7) The sleeve, once one is recovered from surgery, is finished. No fills, unfills etc etc. My province does not cover the band, so I would be self-paying (alot) for fills forever.Margo margo.nelson@... On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:52 PM, DougG <doug.graham72@...> wrote: Â Hello all, i am new to this forum and have a few questions, i do not want to seem lazy but i did not have time to search through all the archives etc to answer a couple questions. i see alot of people are switching from the band to sleeve and i wonder why, do they essentialy not do the same thing? with the pouch you can only eat so much and it is full, with the sleeve, you can only eat so much and it is full, what is the difference, can the sleeve stretch out to the same size as your original stomach, or is it the fact that the pouch with a band leaves the stomach almost empty and with that a hunger, i am planning surgery but i am not sure which one to get, i just dont want the band to not do the job and have to 3-4 years later get the sleeve anyway, FYI, i am a male 37, with a BMI of 56. Thanx Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 HI Doug, I'm pretty new here also, I am getting the sleeve done on Feb 15th and at first I was leaning toward the Band, but what turned me off were the number of people with alot of misc problems with it. What helped me research and make my decision was the following 2 forums: verticalsleevetalk.com and lapbandtalk.com you can go in and read all of the different post from the people who who are living with both. Research as much as you can, and decide what you feel is best for yourself and your lifestyle. Good Luck, > > Hello all, i am new to this forum and have a few questions, i do not want to seem lazy but i did not have time to search through all the archives etc to answer a couple questions. > > i see alot of people are switching from the band to sleeve and i wonder why, do they essentialy not do the same thing? with the pouch you can only eat so much and it is full, with the sleeve, you can only eat so much and it is full, what is the difference, can the sleeve stretch out to the same size as your original stomach, or is it the fact that the pouch with a band leaves the stomach almost empty and with that a hunger, i am planning surgery but i am not sure which one to get, i just dont want the band to not do the job and have to 3-4 years later get the sleeve anyway, FYI, i am a male 37, with a BMI of 56. > > Thanx > Doug > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 I didn't want to take the chance of the band not doing its job or causing problems. So I decided on the sleeve instead. I know several local folks that have had the sleeve and all are happy. This is from Dr. Aceves. If you are considering Lap Band Surgery you might want to consider Gastric Sleeve Surgery Instead. Proven effective by thousands of patients worldwide. Advantages:No fills or adjustments.No portsNo risk of slippageNo risk of erosionMinimal risk surgery The Gastric Sleeve Surgery is a procedure that induces weight loss by restricting food intake. Currently, the procedure is becoming very, very popular amongst surgeons in specialized centers because of the low risks and the great results that they are getting. With this procedure, approximately 60 to 85 percent of the stomach is removed laparoscopically so that the stomach takes the shape of a tube or "sleeve." With a smaller stomach, patients eat less. The gastric sleeve procedure can be done in about an hour laparoscopically. There is also another benefit: The hormones that control the appetite are created in a portion of the stomach (that is removed), and by taking out that portion of the stomach, the patient's appetite is reduced.Nevertheless, it is important to point out that no obesity surgery is a cure-all, but simply a tool to help patients cut portions and calories.MarilouDr. AcevesVSG~February 5, 2010 On Jan 22, 2010, at 1:52 PM, DougG wrote:Hello all, i am new to this forum and have a few questions, i do not want to seem lazy but i did not have time to search through all the archives etc to answer a couple questions.i see alot of people are switching from the band to sleeve and i wonder why, do they essentialy not do the same thing? with the pouch you can only eat so much and it is full, with the sleeve, you can only eat so much and it is full, what is the difference, can the sleeve stretch out to the same size as your original stomach, or is it the fact that the pouch with a band leaves the stomach almost empty and with that a hunger, i am planning surgery but i am not sure which one to get, i just dont want the band to not do the job and have to 3-4 years later get the sleeve anyway, FYI, i am a male 37, with a BMI of 56.ThanxDoug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 doug, I can only speak from personal experience. I had the band placed in Sept of 07. In May of 08 it started causing me problems. The addition of saline would make it too tight. I'd spend a week or two sick and vomiting and struggling and go get an unfill. Wait a few weeks for everything to settle down and do it all again. in June of 2009 I was totally unfilled for the 4th or 5th time and started researching the sleeve again. My body just could not tolerate the band and believe me..it's expensive to keep paying for fills and unfills trying to find the proper restriction. I would have been way ahead financially if I'd have gotten the sleeve in the beginning. On Dec 14 2009 I had revision surgery to remove the lapband and convert to a VSG. I'm totally at peace with that decision. I'm losing steadily now. I don't vomit. I manage to get in all my fluids and proteins. I'm not hungry.....to me...and for me..it's a miracle. Best wishes in making your personal decision! tracy From: DougG <doug.graham72@...>Subject: newbie with questions Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 3:52 PM Hello all, i am new to this forum and have a few questions, i do not want to seem lazy but i did not have time to search through all the archives etc to answer a couple questions.i see alot of people are switching from the band to sleeve and i wonder why, do they essentialy not do the same thing? with the pouch you can only eat so much and it is full, with the sleeve, you can only eat so much and it is full, what is the difference, can the sleeve stretch out to the same size as your original stomach, or is it the fact that the pouch with a band leaves the stomach almost empty and with that a hunger, i am planning surgery but i am not sure which one to get, i just dont want the band to not do the job and have to 3-4 years later get the sleeve anyway, FYI, i am a male 37, with a BMI of 56.ThanxDoug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 There is a ton of information on these subjects in this forum. You should probably spend some time and read back through it. Lots of new people come here and ask the exact same thing that you're asking, so rather than continually repeat the same answers, it'd be better for you to research the information just by reading. I know the questions seem straightforward to you, but the answers are not. You've got some inaccurate impressions of what a band and a sleeve are and are not, so please educate yourself and see where the read takes you. If you can't figure it out after researching, come back again. > > Hello all, i am new to this forum and have a few questions, i do not want to seem lazy but i did not have time to search through all the archives etc to answer a couple questions. > > i see alot of people are switching from the band to sleeve and i wonder why, do they essentialy not do the same thing? with the pouch you can only eat so much and it is full, with the sleeve, you can only eat so much and it is full, what is the difference, can the sleeve stretch out to the same size as your original stomach, or is it the fact that the pouch with a band leaves the stomach almost empty and with that a hunger, i am planning surgery but i am not sure which one to get, i just dont want the band to not do the job and have to 3-4 years later get the sleeve anyway, FYI, i am a male 37, with a BMI of 56. > > Thanx > Doug > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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