Re: New reason for Autism

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wow. that's amazing....and a little creepy, too lol

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 9:03:29 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

I agree that vaccines are a trigger and not the cause. Remeber that genes can also mutate after birth from infections and viruses. Infections and viruses actully insert their DNA or RNA into our DNA causing the mutated gene, take care of the root cause and you can recover. Did you know that 70% of our DNA came from viruses? I thought that that was pretty remarkable.

JJ

From: Kulp <thorenstd124@ yahoo.com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, May 13, 2010 12:20:45 AMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

Once again a trigger is not a cause.You need to do a lot of research to get to the root of the cause,and then connect the dots,and take your research to your doctor,who then does the right tests.It now looks very likely I was the victim of an infection while in the womb.There are several possible ones my mother had.I have found articles today about mutations of genes that are linked to congenital infections,which are linked to autism.They used to think it was just rubella,and Lyme,but now they know that most severe infections,active or latent,a mother has while carrying her baby can cause autism.This is both a new and developing story,and one documented by mainstream science.I know autism can have as many different causes as there are ways the disease can manifest,but if you do enough research,and have enough tests,you eventually find the cause,and usually you will find vaccines,like an acute infection can be a trigger and not a cause.

, ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Greenberg To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 10:49:32 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism Thanks for all the info Jen. I am one of those moms that had my son go into a seizure right in the doctors office after the MMR. So I know vaccines damaged my son. But I know there is some sort of virus in our house affecting us all. My daughter is sick as much as she is well, we get a lot of sore throats, sinus infections, glue ear, we all can no longer tolerate gluten or milk. (and I prided myself in having a stomach of steel) Now I get stomach aches all the time when I eat dairy or gluten. I get weird pressure or like burning feeling in my head, not a head ache. Even my dog has upper respiratory issues and can't digest certain dog foods. He also has phobias and won't go outside without an escort. (He is 180 lb Mastiff). It just feels like everything in our house

is always sick. My kids don't go to day care or school so I don't know how they are sick so much. both have been high in metals, (my son we chelated, so he is ok now), but I am at a crossroads as to what to do next. I think the viral route might be our answer. Thanks for bringing it up. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 9:10:45 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism They do know that 5% of autistic people is genetic (Fragile X). But viruses can change, mutate our genes. HIV can cause cancer. If a child is born with a retro-virus handed down from the mother, but the virus isn't activated, then a shot or even a circumcision can trigger the virus. The 2 main triggers for XMRV are cortisal (a stress hormone and vaccines). These turn the virus on, and it starts replicating it's self. HIV uses metals, it ruins the methalation cycle where metals can't be removed

from the body. J ____________ _________ _________ __ From: T Lynn To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:12:40 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids. Ask any mom who witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and black out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree. Docs know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children. To declare that it bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head. Or that pollen and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have shellfish, anitbiotics,

strawberries or you name it. Everyone is different and everyone's body can and can not tolerate different things. As a matter of fact, it has crossed my mind more than once that the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person born with autism. does that make sense???? ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Kulp To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil, to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period. Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic

chemicals,and/ or as with my sister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection. http://aje.oxfordjo urnals.org/ cgi/content/ full/161/ 10/916 ____________ _________ _________ __ From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! ! If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIV patients???? J ____________ _________ _________ __

From: T Lynn To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism , I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures. I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great, just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism.. That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say?

So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PM Subject: New reason for Autism Posted - 05/06/ 2009 : 10:51:23 ____________ _________ _________ __ There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of

research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus. HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autism There is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism. The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction,

glutathione depletion, chronic inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below). Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected children Impairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc). Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some

degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load. Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the susceptibility

of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis) Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism: Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrients Dysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function) Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and casein Lactose intolerance Sugar intolerance Inability to digest complex carbohydrates Inability to absorb fats and proteins Gastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload. Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans. Others: Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive children Impaired sensory – auditory and visual processing Subclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children) Pathological mechanisms in HIV infection HIV causes

calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism) HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism) HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism) Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected antiretroviral effects: • chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as

antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals • Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents. • HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione • Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load. • Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect in HIV positive. • Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.

[Guest guest]

Haha. I know; he said that tics probably weren't the culprit. I hate those little critters though. Yuck.

JJ

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 8:37:51 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

 tics get on people to

New reason for Autism Posted - 05/06/ 2009 : 10:51:23 ____________ _________ _________ __ There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some

drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus. HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autism There is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism. The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match

those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below). Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected children Impairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc). Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language,

behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load. Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by

administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis) Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism: Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrients Dysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function) Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and casein Lactose intolerance Sugar intolerance Inability to digest complex carbohydrates Inability to absorb fats and proteins Gastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload. Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans. Others: Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive children

Impaired sensory – auditory and visual processing Subclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children) Pathological mechanisms in HIV infection HIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism) HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism) HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism) Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected antiretroviral effects: • chelation of

metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals • Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents. • HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione • Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load. • Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect in HIV positive. • Methylation agents such as cobalamins and

SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency. > > > >

[Guest guest]

Haha. I know; he said that tics probably weren't the culprit. I hate those little critters though. Yuck.

JJ

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 8:37:51 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

 tics get on people to

New reason for Autism Posted - 05/06/ 2009 : 10:51:23 ____________ _________ _________ __ There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some

drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus. HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autism There is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism. The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match

those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below). Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected children Impairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc). Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language,

behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load. Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by

administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis) Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism: Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrients Dysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function) Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and casein Lactose intolerance Sugar intolerance Inability to digest complex carbohydrates Inability to absorb fats and proteins Gastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload. Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans. Others: Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive children

Impaired sensory – auditory and visual processing Subclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children) Pathological mechanisms in HIV infection HIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism) HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism) HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism) Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected antiretroviral effects: • chelation of

metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals • Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents. • HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione • Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load. • Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect in HIV positive. • Methylation agents such as cobalamins and

SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency. > > > >

[Guest guest]

That's exactly right and the pharmas know it and do not care. Damage is damage. The rest is semantics as far as I'm concerned. One size does not fit all. Period. But I've ranted enough about it this week.

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 9:11:59 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

Just think of the double whammy that a baby body is getting if they do in fact have a virus such as XMRV, not only are you stimulating the virus to reproduce but you are giving it a bunch of metals and toxins aiding its survival.

JJ

From: T Lynn <t.lynn28@rocketmail .com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, May 13, 2010 7:50:08 AMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

Gotcha. Still I'm not convinced that injecting our bodies with metals and viruses goes without consequense. .... Some more severe than others. I pray you are able to find a cause and heal your body. I look forward to the day you report that you feel 100%! ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Kulp To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 1:20:45 AM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism Once again a trigger is not a cause.You need to do a lot of research to get to the root of the cause,and then connect the dots,and take your research to your doctor,who then does the right tests.It now looks very likely I was the victim of an infection while in the womb.There are several possible ones my mother had.I have found articles today about mutations of genes that are linked to congenital infections,which are linked to autism.They used to think it was just rubella,and Lyme,but now they know that

most severe infections,active or latent,a mother has while carrying her baby can cause autism.This is both a new and developing story,and one documented by mainstream science.I know autism can have as many different causes as there are ways the disease can manifest,but if you do enough research,and have enough tests,you eventually find the cause,and usually you will find vaccines,like an acute infection can be a trigger and not a cause. , ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Greenberg To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 10:49:32 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism Thanks for all the info Jen. I am one of those moms that had my son go into a seizure right in the doctors office after the MMR. So I know vaccines damaged my son. But I know there is some sort of virus in our house affecting us all. My daughter is sick as much as she is well, we get a lot of sore throats, sinus

infections, glue ear, we all can no longer tolerate gluten or milk. (and I prided myself in having a stomach of steel) Now I get stomach aches all the time when I eat dairy or gluten. I get weird pressure or like burning feeling in my head, not a head ache. Even my dog has upper respiratory issues and can't digest certain dog foods. He also has phobias and won't go outside without an escort. (He is 180 lb Mastiff). It just feels like everything in our house is always sick. My kids don't go to day care or school so I don't know how they are sick so much. both have been high in metals, (my son we chelated, so he is ok now), but I am at a crossroads as to what to do next. I think the viral route might be our answer. Thanks for bringing it up. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 9:10:45 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism They do know that 5% of autistic

people is genetic (Fragile X). But viruses can change, mutate our genes. HIV can cause cancer. If a child is born with a retro-virus handed down from the mother, but the virus isn't activated, then a shot or even a circumcision can trigger the virus. The 2 main triggers for XMRV are cortisal (a stress hormone and vaccines). These turn the virus on, and it starts replicating it's self. HIV uses metals, it ruins the methalation cycle where metals can't be removed from the body. J ____________ _________ _________ __ From: T Lynn To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:12:40 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids. Ask any mom who witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and black

out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree. Docs know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children. To declare that it bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head. Or that pollen and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have shellfish, anitbiotics, strawberries or you name it. Everyone is different and everyone's body can and can not tolerate different things. As a matter of fact, it has crossed my mind more than once that the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person born with autism. does that make sense???? ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Kulp To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PM Subject:

Re: New reason for Autism There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil, to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period. Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic chemicals,and/ or as with my sister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection. http://aje.oxfordjo urnals.org/ cgi/content/ full/161/ 10/916 ____________ _________ _________ __ From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the

pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! ! If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIV patients???? J ____________ _________ _________ __ From: T Lynn To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism , I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures. I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great,

just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism.. That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say? So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PM Subject: New reason for Autism Posted - 05/06/ 2009 : 10:51:23 ____________ _________ _________ __ There is a newly discovered

retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus. HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autism There is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in

HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism. The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below). Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected children Impairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms:

irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc). Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load. Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been

found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis) Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism: Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrients Dysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function) Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and casein Lactose intolerance Sugar intolerance Inability to digest complex

carbohydrates Inability to absorb fats and proteins Gastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload. Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans. Others: Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive children Impaired sensory – auditory and visual processing Subclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children) Pathological mechanisms in HIV infection HIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism) HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels

that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism) HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism) Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected antiretroviral effects: • chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals • Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents. • HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione • Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load

in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load. • Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect in HIV positive. • Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.

[Guest guest]

That's exactly right and the pharmas know it and do not care. Damage is damage. The rest is semantics as far as I'm concerned. One size does not fit all. Period. But I've ranted enough about it this week.

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 9:11:59 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

Just think of the double whammy that a baby body is getting if they do in fact have a virus such as XMRV, not only are you stimulating the virus to reproduce but you are giving it a bunch of metals and toxins aiding its survival.

JJ

From: T Lynn <t.lynn28@rocketmail .com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, May 13, 2010 7:50:08 AMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

Gotcha. Still I'm not convinced that injecting our bodies with metals and viruses goes without consequense. .... Some more severe than others. I pray you are able to find a cause and heal your body. I look forward to the day you report that you feel 100%! ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Kulp To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 1:20:45 AM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism Once again a trigger is not a cause.You need to do a lot of research to get to the root of the cause,and then connect the dots,and take your research to your doctor,who then does the right tests.It now looks very likely I was the victim of an infection while in the womb.There are several possible ones my mother had.I have found articles today about mutations of genes that are linked to congenital infections,which are linked to autism.They used to think it was just rubella,and Lyme,but now they know that

most severe infections,active or latent,a mother has while carrying her baby can cause autism.This is both a new and developing story,and one documented by mainstream science.I know autism can have as many different causes as there are ways the disease can manifest,but if you do enough research,and have enough tests,you eventually find the cause,and usually you will find vaccines,like an acute infection can be a trigger and not a cause. , ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Greenberg To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 10:49:32 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism Thanks for all the info Jen. I am one of those moms that had my son go into a seizure right in the doctors office after the MMR. So I know vaccines damaged my son. But I know there is some sort of virus in our house affecting us all. My daughter is sick as much as she is well, we get a lot of sore throats, sinus

infections, glue ear, we all can no longer tolerate gluten or milk. (and I prided myself in having a stomach of steel) Now I get stomach aches all the time when I eat dairy or gluten. I get weird pressure or like burning feeling in my head, not a head ache. Even my dog has upper respiratory issues and can't digest certain dog foods. He also has phobias and won't go outside without an escort. (He is 180 lb Mastiff). It just feels like everything in our house is always sick. My kids don't go to day care or school so I don't know how they are sick so much. both have been high in metals, (my son we chelated, so he is ok now), but I am at a crossroads as to what to do next. I think the viral route might be our answer. Thanks for bringing it up. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 9:10:45 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism They do know that 5% of autistic

people is genetic (Fragile X). But viruses can change, mutate our genes. HIV can cause cancer. If a child is born with a retro-virus handed down from the mother, but the virus isn't activated, then a shot or even a circumcision can trigger the virus. The 2 main triggers for XMRV are cortisal (a stress hormone and vaccines). These turn the virus on, and it starts replicating it's self. HIV uses metals, it ruins the methalation cycle where metals can't be removed from the body. J ____________ _________ _________ __ From: T Lynn To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:12:40 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids. Ask any mom who witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and black

out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree. Docs know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children. To declare that it bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head. Or that pollen and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have shellfish, anitbiotics, strawberries or you name it. Everyone is different and everyone's body can and can not tolerate different things. As a matter of fact, it has crossed my mind more than once that the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person born with autism. does that make sense???? ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Kulp To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PM Subject:

Re: New reason for Autism There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil, to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period. Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic chemicals,and/ or as with my sister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection. http://aje.oxfordjo urnals.org/ cgi/content/ full/161/ 10/916 ____________ _________ _________ __ From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the

pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! ! If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIV patients???? J ____________ _________ _________ __ From: T Lynn To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism , I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures. I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great,

just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism.. That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say? So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PM Subject: New reason for Autism Posted - 05/06/ 2009 : 10:51:23 ____________ _________ _________ __ There is a newly discovered

retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus. HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autism There is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in

HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism. The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below). Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected children Impairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms:

irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc). Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load. Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been

found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis) Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism: Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrients Dysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function) Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and casein Lactose intolerance Sugar intolerance Inability to digest complex

carbohydrates Inability to absorb fats and proteins Gastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload. Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans. Others: Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive children Impaired sensory – auditory and visual processing Subclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children) Pathological mechanisms in HIV infection HIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism) HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels

that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism) HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism) Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected antiretroviral effects: • chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals • Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents. • HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione • Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load

in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load. • Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect in HIV positive. • Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.

[Guest guest]

That's exactly right and the pharmas know it and do not care. Damage is damage. The rest is semantics as far as I'm concerned. One size does not fit all. Period. But I've ranted enough about it this week.

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 9:11:59 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

Just think of the double whammy that a baby body is getting if they do in fact have a virus such as XMRV, not only are you stimulating the virus to reproduce but you are giving it a bunch of metals and toxins aiding its survival.

JJ

From: T Lynn <t.lynn28@rocketmail .com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, May 13, 2010 7:50:08 AMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

Gotcha. Still I'm not convinced that injecting our bodies with metals and viruses goes without consequense. .... Some more severe than others. I pray you are able to find a cause and heal your body. I look forward to the day you report that you feel 100%! ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Kulp To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 1:20:45 AM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism Once again a trigger is not a cause.You need to do a lot of research to get to the root of the cause,and then connect the dots,and take your research to your doctor,who then does the right tests.It now looks very likely I was the victim of an infection while in the womb.There are several possible ones my mother had.I have found articles today about mutations of genes that are linked to congenital infections,which are linked to autism.They used to think it was just rubella,and Lyme,but now they know that

most severe infections,active or latent,a mother has while carrying her baby can cause autism.This is both a new and developing story,and one documented by mainstream science.I know autism can have as many different causes as there are ways the disease can manifest,but if you do enough research,and have enough tests,you eventually find the cause,and usually you will find vaccines,like an acute infection can be a trigger and not a cause. , ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Greenberg To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 10:49:32 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism Thanks for all the info Jen. I am one of those moms that had my son go into a seizure right in the doctors office after the MMR. So I know vaccines damaged my son. But I know there is some sort of virus in our house affecting us all. My daughter is sick as much as she is well, we get a lot of sore throats, sinus

infections, glue ear, we all can no longer tolerate gluten or milk. (and I prided myself in having a stomach of steel) Now I get stomach aches all the time when I eat dairy or gluten. I get weird pressure or like burning feeling in my head, not a head ache. Even my dog has upper respiratory issues and can't digest certain dog foods. He also has phobias and won't go outside without an escort. (He is 180 lb Mastiff). It just feels like everything in our house is always sick. My kids don't go to day care or school so I don't know how they are sick so much. both have been high in metals, (my son we chelated, so he is ok now), but I am at a crossroads as to what to do next. I think the viral route might be our answer. Thanks for bringing it up. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 9:10:45 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism They do know that 5% of autistic

people is genetic (Fragile X). But viruses can change, mutate our genes. HIV can cause cancer. If a child is born with a retro-virus handed down from the mother, but the virus isn't activated, then a shot or even a circumcision can trigger the virus. The 2 main triggers for XMRV are cortisal (a stress hormone and vaccines). These turn the virus on, and it starts replicating it's self. HIV uses metals, it ruins the methalation cycle where metals can't be removed from the body. J ____________ _________ _________ __ From: T Lynn To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:12:40 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids. Ask any mom who witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and black

out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree. Docs know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children. To declare that it bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head. Or that pollen and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have shellfish, anitbiotics, strawberries or you name it. Everyone is different and everyone's body can and can not tolerate different things. As a matter of fact, it has crossed my mind more than once that the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person born with autism. does that make sense???? ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Kulp To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PM Subject:

Re: New reason for Autism There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil, to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period. Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic chemicals,and/ or as with my sister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection. http://aje.oxfordjo urnals.org/ cgi/content/ full/161/ 10/916 ____________ _________ _________ __ From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the

pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! ! If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIV patients???? J ____________ _________ _________ __ From: T Lynn To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism , I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures. I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great,

just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism.. That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say? So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PM Subject: New reason for Autism Posted - 05/06/ 2009 : 10:51:23 ____________ _________ _________ __ There is a newly discovered

retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus. HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autism There is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in

HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism. The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below). Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected children Impairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms:

irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc). Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load. Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been

found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis) Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism: Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrients Dysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function) Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and casein Lactose intolerance Sugar intolerance Inability to digest complex

carbohydrates Inability to absorb fats and proteins Gastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload. Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans. Others: Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive children Impaired sensory – auditory and visual processing Subclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children) Pathological mechanisms in HIV infection HIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism) HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels

that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism) HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism) Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected antiretroviral effects: • chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals • Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents. • HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione • Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load

in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load. • Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect in HIV positive. • Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.

[Guest guest]

I seen a YouTube video where this one family all had Lyme. One had

autism, one had arthritis, one had heart problems, etc. Everyone took

antibiotics, and their symptoms went away, even though they were all

different. None remembered having a tick bite. I have seen gobs of

reports that most with Lyme have no memory of having a tick bite, nor

bulls-eye rash. It is believed to be transmittable via sex and

pregnancy. Also, since it's a bacteria, it can be transmitted in most

of the ways bacteria is transmitted. But, it will not grow outside of

the body. I can not say it doesn't live outside of the body in some

hibernated form, but it will not grow outside of the body. It dies

about 106 degrees Fahrenheit, so hot things kill it. But, then again,

maybe it just turns to a hibernated crystallized form. I am not saying

it does, just that this can not be ruled out as of yet. Since it can

live in many animals, I suppose eating raw meat or pets can transfer

it. It lives in all body fluids, tears, urine, etc. I don't know if

it's transferable this way since I have not seen studies on it. What I

do know is that it's pleomorphic, just like mycoplasma (Gulf War

Syndrome) and Bartonella. XMRV, HTLV-1, and HIV are also pleomorphic.

Thus, any of these can burn out the immune system, making one unable to

handle toxins and other pathogens, which can cause any symptom known to

man. Once the immune system is damaged, anything can happen. Oddly,

many are also testing positive for these pleos with little or no

symptoms. So, they seem to damage the immune system, but the person can

manage if there are no strong immune stressors. Once a strong immune

stressor comes along, then the immune system seems to start stock-piling

pathogens and toxins, as well as the digestive system becomes

dysfunctional. I think many have several of the pleomorphic pathogens,

not just one.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

How would you guys have aquired Lyme? That just baffles me! Can Lyme

be transferred from person to person in others ways then blood?

JJ

[Guest guest]

I seen a YouTube video where this one family all had Lyme. One had

autism, one had arthritis, one had heart problems, etc. Everyone took

antibiotics, and their symptoms went away, even though they were all

different. None remembered having a tick bite. I have seen gobs of

reports that most with Lyme have no memory of having a tick bite, nor

bulls-eye rash. It is believed to be transmittable via sex and

pregnancy. Also, since it's a bacteria, it can be transmitted in most

of the ways bacteria is transmitted. But, it will not grow outside of

the body. I can not say it doesn't live outside of the body in some

hibernated form, but it will not grow outside of the body. It dies

about 106 degrees Fahrenheit, so hot things kill it. But, then again,

maybe it just turns to a hibernated crystallized form. I am not saying

it does, just that this can not be ruled out as of yet. Since it can

live in many animals, I suppose eating raw meat or pets can transfer

it. It lives in all body fluids, tears, urine, etc. I don't know if

it's transferable this way since I have not seen studies on it. What I

do know is that it's pleomorphic, just like mycoplasma (Gulf War

Syndrome) and Bartonella. XMRV, HTLV-1, and HIV are also pleomorphic.

Thus, any of these can burn out the immune system, making one unable to

handle toxins and other pathogens, which can cause any symptom known to

man. Once the immune system is damaged, anything can happen. Oddly,

many are also testing positive for these pleos with little or no

symptoms. So, they seem to damage the immune system, but the person can

manage if there are no strong immune stressors. Once a strong immune

stressor comes along, then the immune system seems to start stock-piling

pathogens and toxins, as well as the digestive system becomes

dysfunctional. I think many have several of the pleomorphic pathogens,

not just one.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

How would you guys have aquired Lyme? That just baffles me! Can Lyme

be transferred from person to person in others ways then blood?

JJ

[Guest guest]

I seen a YouTube video where this one family all had Lyme. One had

autism, one had arthritis, one had heart problems, etc. Everyone took

antibiotics, and their symptoms went away, even though they were all

different. None remembered having a tick bite. I have seen gobs of

reports that most with Lyme have no memory of having a tick bite, nor

bulls-eye rash. It is believed to be transmittable via sex and

pregnancy. Also, since it's a bacteria, it can be transmitted in most

of the ways bacteria is transmitted. But, it will not grow outside of

the body. I can not say it doesn't live outside of the body in some

hibernated form, but it will not grow outside of the body. It dies

about 106 degrees Fahrenheit, so hot things kill it. But, then again,

maybe it just turns to a hibernated crystallized form. I am not saying

it does, just that this can not be ruled out as of yet. Since it can

live in many animals, I suppose eating raw meat or pets can transfer

it. It lives in all body fluids, tears, urine, etc. I don't know if

it's transferable this way since I have not seen studies on it. What I

do know is that it's pleomorphic, just like mycoplasma (Gulf War

Syndrome) and Bartonella. XMRV, HTLV-1, and HIV are also pleomorphic.

Thus, any of these can burn out the immune system, making one unable to

handle toxins and other pathogens, which can cause any symptom known to

man. Once the immune system is damaged, anything can happen. Oddly,

many are also testing positive for these pleos with little or no

symptoms. So, they seem to damage the immune system, but the person can

manage if there are no strong immune stressors. Once a strong immune

stressor comes along, then the immune system seems to start stock-piling

pathogens and toxins, as well as the digestive system becomes

dysfunctional. I think many have several of the pleomorphic pathogens,

not just one.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

How would you guys have aquired Lyme? That just baffles me! Can Lyme

be transferred from person to person in others ways then blood?

JJ

[Guest guest]

That is amazing!!!! I will have to study it more. Our son is the one with all the immune issues. My husband, I, and our daughter (6.5 months) hardly ever get sick; our son does. Here is a peice: Earlier this year Sage get the 8 hour stomach flu, Nate and I got it next on the same night it lasted about 8 hours also. the following day Luke got it and it lasted 3 days. I immune systems is struggling. I am compiling a list of test to be ran on Luke, we will make sure that we test for Lyme although I do not believe that in his case that is the cause.

Could anybody recommend a lab to have herpes titters sent?

One more question, if a strep titter is ran and it comes back with low numbers does that mean that strep can become an issue? Should I have more titters ran? Obviously he has strep it just wasn't flairing at the time? Does anybody know if this is correct?

JJ

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 11:14:06 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

I seen a YouTube video where this one family all had Lyme. One had autism, one had arthritis, one had heart problems, etc. Everyone took antibiotics, and their symptoms went away, even though they were all different. None remembered having a tick bite. I have seen gobs of reports that most with Lyme have no memory of having a tick bite, nor bulls-eye rash. It is believed to be transmittable via sex and pregnancy. Also, since it's a bacteria, it can be transmitted in most of the ways bacteria is transmitted. But, it will not grow outside of the body. I can not say it doesn't live outside of the body in some hibernated form, but it will not grow outside of the body. It dies about 106 degrees Fahrenheit, so hot things kill it. But, then again, maybe it just turns to a hibernated crystallized form. I am not saying it does, just that this can not be ruled out as of yet. Since it can live in many animals,

I suppose eating raw meat or pets can transfer it. It lives in all body fluids, tears, urine, etc. I don't know if it's transferable this way since I have not seen studies on it. What I do know is that it's pleomorphic, just like mycoplasma (Gulf War Syndrome) and Bartonella. XMRV, HTLV-1, and HIV are also pleomorphic. Thus, any of these can burn out the immune system, making one unable to handle toxins and other pathogens, which can cause any symptom known to man. Once the immune system is damaged, anything can happen. Oddly, many are also testing positive for these pleos with little or no symptoms. So, they seem to damage the immune system, but the person can manage if there are no strong immune stressors. Once a strong immune stressor comes along, then the immune system seems to start stock-piling pathogens and toxins, as well as the digestive system becomes dysfunctional. I think many have several

of the pleomorphic pathogens, not just one.Love and prayers,Heidi NHow would you guys have aquired Lyme? That just baffles me! Can Lyme be transferred from person to person in others ways then blood?JJ

[Guest guest]

Being from the south, I wondered if mosquitos could cause the transmission of Lyme disease. I did a search and found many articles on this matter. Here is a link that discusses the possible link being from mosquitos, fleas,mites.

http://www.samento.com.ec/sciencelib/4lyme/Townsendhowens.html

I may have to investigate Lyme disease for my little guy. Lyme disease is not something that is found or common here in South Texas. This is scary stuff folks.

Cristine

[Guest guest]

Being from the south, I wondered if mosquitos could cause the transmission of Lyme disease. I did a search and found many articles on this matter. Here is a link that discusses the possible link being from mosquitos, fleas,mites.

http://www.samento.com.ec/sciencelib/4lyme/Townsendhowens.html

I may have to investigate Lyme disease for my little guy. Lyme disease is not something that is found or common here in South Texas. This is scary stuff folks.

Cristine

[Guest guest]

Being from the south, I wondered if mosquitos could cause the transmission of Lyme disease. I did a search and found many articles on this matter. Here is a link that discusses the possible link being from mosquitos, fleas,mites.

http://www.samento.com.ec/sciencelib/4lyme/Townsendhowens.html

I may have to investigate Lyme disease for my little guy. Lyme disease is not something that is found or common here in South Texas. This is scary stuff folks.

Cristine

[Guest guest]

There was also something about a year ago about Chinese Sheetrock used in new housing developments that were being built rapidly during the boom.. I believe in Florida? Sent via BlackBerry by AT&TDate: Fri, 14 May 2010 18:42:26 -0700 (PDT)To: <mb12 valtrex >Subject: Re: New reason for Autism Black mold is very serious. Get it taken care of. There was a lawsuit against a builder that built million dollar homes but used cheap labor and building materials. When the family moved in they had no idea but there house soon became plagued with black mold, the 5 yr old little boy starting loosing skills. Black mold caused nerve damage in the little boy. JJFrom: Lori Culbertson <careofindiana>To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 12:25:07 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism Mold, especially black mold, can cause a lot of issues....if you have yeast in your system the mold reacts to the yeast or visa versa..can't remember which right now. Mold is nasty stuff and can make people very sick.My suggestion would be to fix it right away, you may even have to move out of the house while it's being fixed..depending on how bad the problem is.My fil and mil had the same problem at a house they live in about 2-3 years ago, mold in a closet and it even after they cleaned it up they both continued to have health issues...for the first time ever my fil got pneumonia..now about 3 years later, they are healthier.Lori (new to group)From: Greenberg <vegascurlsyahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, May 13, 2010 12:15:48 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism We do feel better away from the house. We had another little dog that bit my daughter so we gave it to my sister, and that dog looks amazing now. We did recently find a leak in our bathroom. We have wood floors, and around the toilet it started turning black. We had a plumber come out and he said the wax seal was probably leaking underneath. I tried to bleach the black around the bottom, but it is underneath the wood's seal so the bleach doesn't affect it. I am worried to see what we find when we pull up the wood. We were waiting to fix it until we knew we were not going to lose the house to foreclosure. We just finally got loan docs, so looks like we will keep our house and can fix it. Could that much mold cause all these problems? We just noticed the black stuff about 4 or 5 months ago, but I guess it could havebeen leaking a while because we have high quality wood floors and it had to take a while to get to the surface I guess. The plumber thinks they installed the wrong size wax ring which could mean it's been leaking since we lived here. Could mold cause immune dysfunction?From: T Lynn <t.lynn28@rocketmail .com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, May 13, 2010 9:43:27 AMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism My first thought was mold. Do you guys go away on vacation? If yes, do you all feel better when you've been away from the house??? From: Greenberg <vegascurlsyahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, May 13, 2010 12:29:05 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism We live in Vegas, so not many ticks here. When my son was 11 months, we all got very sick with some virus that affected our stomach. It was so bad, we couldn't stop vomiting every ten minutes and ended up getting a shot of something and some medicine to stop throwing up. That was the first time I thought I was gonna die in my life. It was horrible. I think it was after that we couldn't digest gluten or dairy. (about two and a half yrs. ago) My daughter hasn't gained weight since then and has turned pale. She has grown taller, just hasn't gained weight . We get sick usually together about once a month, my daughter gets it worse. But even the dog gets stomach problems and sneezes green boogers. we have had the dog on different types of antibiotics. He has the fear issues and some OCD stuff. If an object is somewhereit isn't supposed to be, he will pace and drool and pant until I figure out what it is. Usually something that got left close to his food dish or where he lays down. My daughter has the OCD PANDAS type symptoms, but her strep titers are really low, like her body doesn't recognize strep. It's just bizarre how all of us can have the same type symptoms, even the dog. Makes me wonder if it is strep with all of us, or maybe mold in the house, or some crazy virus. I am constantly tired, stomach problems now, this weird burning in my head occasionally, My daughter is sick more than well and OCD, my son is autistic and all the immune and methylating issues that go with that. And even the dog gets sick often with diahreah and some kind of sinus infection and he has mental issues. I am just trying to find a culprit.From: Angie <richardsonme (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wed, May 12, 2010 9:53:29 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism Have you or anyone in your family ever been tested for Lyme disease? Just a thought! > > Thanks for all the info Jen. I am one of those moms that had my son go into a seizure right in the doctors office after the MMR. So I know vaccines damaged my son. But I know there is some sort of virus in our house affecting us all. My daughter is sick as much as she is well, we get a lot of sore throats, sinus infections, glue ear, we all can no longer tolerate gluten or milk. (and I prided myself in having a stomach of steel) Now I get stomach aches all the time when I eat dairy or gluten. I get weird pressure or like burning feeling in my head, not a head ache. Even my dog has upper respiratory issues and can't digest certain dog foods. He also has phobias and won't go outside without an escort. (He is 180 lb Mastiff). It just feels like everything in our house is always sick. My kids don'tgo to day care or school so I don't know how they are sick so much. both have been high in metals, (my son we chelated, so he is ok now), but I am at a crossroads as to what to do next. I think the viral route might be our answer. Thanks for bringing it up. > > > From: jennifer smiglewski > To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com > Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 9:10:45 PM > Subject: Re: New reason for Autism > > > They do know that 5% of autistic people is genetic (Fragile X). But viruses can change, mutate our genes. HIV can cause cancer. If a child is born with a retro-virus handed down from the mother, but the virus isn't activated, then a shot or even a circumcision can trigger the virus. The 2 main triggers for XMRV are cortisal (a stress hormone and vaccines). These turn the virus on, and it starts replicating it's self. HIV uses metals, it ruins the methalation cycle where metals can't be removed from the body. J________________________________ From: T Lynn To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:12:40 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids. Ask any mom who witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and black out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree. Docs know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children. To declare that it bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head. Or that pollen and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have shellfish, anitbiotics, strawberries oryou name it. Everyone is different and everyone's body can and can not tolerate different things. As a matter of fact, it has crossed my mind more than once that the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person born with autism. does that make sense????_____________________ ___________ From: Kulp To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil, to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period. Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic chemicals,and/ or as with mysister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection. http://aje.oxfordjo urnals.org/ cgi/content/ full/161/ 10/916 ________________________________ From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! ! If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIVpatients???? J________________________________ From: T Lynn To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism , I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures. I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great, just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism..That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say? So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it.________________________________ From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PM Subject: New reason for Autism Posted - 05/06/ 2009 : 10:51:23________________________________ There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trialsbefore hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus. HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autism There is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism. The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrialdysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below). Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected children Impairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc). Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single orcombination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load. Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenicstimulation through vaccinations may enhance the susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis) Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism: Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrients Dysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function) Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and casein Lactose intolerance Sugar intolerance Inability to digest complex carbohydrates Inability to absorb fats and proteins Gastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload. Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans. Others: Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive children Impaired sensory – auditory and visual processing Subclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data onchildren) Pathological mechanisms in HIV infection HIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism) HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism) HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism) Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected antiretroviral effects: • chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated bychelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals • Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents. • HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione • Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load. • Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect in HIV positive. • Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency. > > > >

[Guest guest]

There was also something about a year ago about Chinese Sheetrock used in new housing developments that were being built rapidly during the boom.. I believe in Florida? Sent via BlackBerry by AT&TDate: Fri, 14 May 2010 18:42:26 -0700 (PDT)To: <mb12 valtrex >Subject: Re: New reason for Autism Black mold is very serious. Get it taken care of. There was a lawsuit against a builder that built million dollar homes but used cheap labor and building materials. When the family moved in they had no idea but there house soon became plagued with black mold, the 5 yr old little boy starting loosing skills. Black mold caused nerve damage in the little boy. JJFrom: Lori Culbertson <careofindiana>To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 12:25:07 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism Mold, especially black mold, can cause a lot of issues....if you have yeast in your system the mold reacts to the yeast or visa versa..can't remember which right now. Mold is nasty stuff and can make people very sick.My suggestion would be to fix it right away, you may even have to move out of the house while it's being fixed..depending on how bad the problem is.My fil and mil had the same problem at a house they live in about 2-3 years ago, mold in a closet and it even after they cleaned it up they both continued to have health issues...for the first time ever my fil got pneumonia..now about 3 years later, they are healthier.Lori (new to group)From: Greenberg <vegascurlsyahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, May 13, 2010 12:15:48 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism We do feel better away from the house. We had another little dog that bit my daughter so we gave it to my sister, and that dog looks amazing now. We did recently find a leak in our bathroom. We have wood floors, and around the toilet it started turning black. We had a plumber come out and he said the wax seal was probably leaking underneath. I tried to bleach the black around the bottom, but it is underneath the wood's seal so the bleach doesn't affect it. I am worried to see what we find when we pull up the wood. We were waiting to fix it until we knew we were not going to lose the house to foreclosure. We just finally got loan docs, so looks like we will keep our house and can fix it. Could that much mold cause all these problems? We just noticed the black stuff about 4 or 5 months ago, but I guess it could havebeen leaking a while because we have high quality wood floors and it had to take a while to get to the surface I guess. The plumber thinks they installed the wrong size wax ring which could mean it's been leaking since we lived here. Could mold cause immune dysfunction?From: T Lynn <t.lynn28@rocketmail .com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, May 13, 2010 9:43:27 AMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism My first thought was mold. Do you guys go away on vacation? If yes, do you all feel better when you've been away from the house??? From: Greenberg <vegascurlsyahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, May 13, 2010 12:29:05 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism We live in Vegas, so not many ticks here. When my son was 11 months, we all got very sick with some virus that affected our stomach. It was so bad, we couldn't stop vomiting every ten minutes and ended up getting a shot of something and some medicine to stop throwing up. That was the first time I thought I was gonna die in my life. It was horrible. I think it was after that we couldn't digest gluten or dairy. (about two and a half yrs. ago) My daughter hasn't gained weight since then and has turned pale. She has grown taller, just hasn't gained weight . We get sick usually together about once a month, my daughter gets it worse. But even the dog gets stomach problems and sneezes green boogers. we have had the dog on different types of antibiotics. He has the fear issues and some OCD stuff. If an object is somewhereit isn't supposed to be, he will pace and drool and pant until I figure out what it is. Usually something that got left close to his food dish or where he lays down. My daughter has the OCD PANDAS type symptoms, but her strep titers are really low, like her body doesn't recognize strep. It's just bizarre how all of us can have the same type symptoms, even the dog. Makes me wonder if it is strep with all of us, or maybe mold in the house, or some crazy virus. I am constantly tired, stomach problems now, this weird burning in my head occasionally, My daughter is sick more than well and OCD, my son is autistic and all the immune and methylating issues that go with that. And even the dog gets sick often with diahreah and some kind of sinus infection and he has mental issues. I am just trying to find a culprit.From: Angie <richardsonme (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wed, May 12, 2010 9:53:29 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism Have you or anyone in your family ever been tested for Lyme disease? Just a thought! > > Thanks for all the info Jen. I am one of those moms that had my son go into a seizure right in the doctors office after the MMR. So I know vaccines damaged my son. But I know there is some sort of virus in our house affecting us all. My daughter is sick as much as she is well, we get a lot of sore throats, sinus infections, glue ear, we all can no longer tolerate gluten or milk. (and I prided myself in having a stomach of steel) Now I get stomach aches all the time when I eat dairy or gluten. I get weird pressure or like burning feeling in my head, not a head ache. Even my dog has upper respiratory issues and can't digest certain dog foods. He also has phobias and won't go outside without an escort. (He is 180 lb Mastiff). It just feels like everything in our house is always sick. My kids don'tgo to day care or school so I don't know how they are sick so much. both have been high in metals, (my son we chelated, so he is ok now), but I am at a crossroads as to what to do next. I think the viral route might be our answer. Thanks for bringing it up. > > > From: jennifer smiglewski > To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com > Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 9:10:45 PM > Subject: Re: New reason for Autism > > > They do know that 5% of autistic people is genetic (Fragile X). But viruses can change, mutate our genes. HIV can cause cancer. If a child is born with a retro-virus handed down from the mother, but the virus isn't activated, then a shot or even a circumcision can trigger the virus. The 2 main triggers for XMRV are cortisal (a stress hormone and vaccines). These turn the virus on, and it starts replicating it's self. HIV uses metals, it ruins the methalation cycle where metals can't be removed from the body. J________________________________ From: T Lynn To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:12:40 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids. Ask any mom who witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and black out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree. Docs know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children. To declare that it bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head. Or that pollen and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have shellfish, anitbiotics, strawberries oryou name it. Everyone is different and everyone's body can and can not tolerate different things. As a matter of fact, it has crossed my mind more than once that the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person born with autism. does that make sense????_____________________ ___________ From: Kulp To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil, to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period. Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic chemicals,and/ or as with mysister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection. http://aje.oxfordjo urnals.org/ cgi/content/ full/161/ 10/916 ________________________________ From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! ! If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIVpatients???? J________________________________ From: T Lynn To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism , I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures. I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great, just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism..That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say? So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it.________________________________ From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PM Subject: New reason for Autism Posted - 05/06/ 2009 : 10:51:23________________________________ There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trialsbefore hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus. HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autism There is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism. The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrialdysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below). Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected children Impairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc). Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single orcombination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load. Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenicstimulation through vaccinations may enhance the susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis) Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism: Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrients Dysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function) Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and casein Lactose intolerance Sugar intolerance Inability to digest complex carbohydrates Inability to absorb fats and proteins Gastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload. Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans. Others: Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive children Impaired sensory – auditory and visual processing Subclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data onchildren) Pathological mechanisms in HIV infection HIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism) HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism) HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism) Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected antiretroviral effects: • chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated bychelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals • Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents. • HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione • Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load. • Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect in HIV positive. • Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency. > > > >

[Guest guest]

There was also something about a year ago about Chinese Sheetrock used in new housing developments that were being built rapidly during the boom.. I believe in Florida? Sent via BlackBerry by AT&TDate: Fri, 14 May 2010 18:42:26 -0700 (PDT)To: <mb12 valtrex >Subject: Re: New reason for Autism Black mold is very serious. Get it taken care of. There was a lawsuit against a builder that built million dollar homes but used cheap labor and building materials. When the family moved in they had no idea but there house soon became plagued with black mold, the 5 yr old little boy starting loosing skills. Black mold caused nerve damage in the little boy. JJFrom: Lori Culbertson <careofindiana>To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 12:25:07 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism Mold, especially black mold, can cause a lot of issues....if you have yeast in your system the mold reacts to the yeast or visa versa..can't remember which right now. Mold is nasty stuff and can make people very sick.My suggestion would be to fix it right away, you may even have to move out of the house while it's being fixed..depending on how bad the problem is.My fil and mil had the same problem at a house they live in about 2-3 years ago, mold in a closet and it even after they cleaned it up they both continued to have health issues...for the first time ever my fil got pneumonia..now about 3 years later, they are healthier.Lori (new to group)From: Greenberg <vegascurlsyahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, May 13, 2010 12:15:48 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism We do feel better away from the house. We had another little dog that bit my daughter so we gave it to my sister, and that dog looks amazing now. We did recently find a leak in our bathroom. We have wood floors, and around the toilet it started turning black. We had a plumber come out and he said the wax seal was probably leaking underneath. I tried to bleach the black around the bottom, but it is underneath the wood's seal so the bleach doesn't affect it. I am worried to see what we find when we pull up the wood. We were waiting to fix it until we knew we were not going to lose the house to foreclosure. We just finally got loan docs, so looks like we will keep our house and can fix it. Could that much mold cause all these problems? We just noticed the black stuff about 4 or 5 months ago, but I guess it could havebeen leaking a while because we have high quality wood floors and it had to take a while to get to the surface I guess. The plumber thinks they installed the wrong size wax ring which could mean it's been leaking since we lived here. Could mold cause immune dysfunction?From: T Lynn <t.lynn28@rocketmail .com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, May 13, 2010 9:43:27 AMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism My first thought was mold. Do you guys go away on vacation? If yes, do you all feel better when you've been away from the house??? From: Greenberg <vegascurlsyahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, May 13, 2010 12:29:05 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism We live in Vegas, so not many ticks here. When my son was 11 months, we all got very sick with some virus that affected our stomach. It was so bad, we couldn't stop vomiting every ten minutes and ended up getting a shot of something and some medicine to stop throwing up. That was the first time I thought I was gonna die in my life. It was horrible. I think it was after that we couldn't digest gluten or dairy. (about two and a half yrs. ago) My daughter hasn't gained weight since then and has turned pale. She has grown taller, just hasn't gained weight . We get sick usually together about once a month, my daughter gets it worse. But even the dog gets stomach problems and sneezes green boogers. we have had the dog on different types of antibiotics. He has the fear issues and some OCD stuff. If an object is somewhereit isn't supposed to be, he will pace and drool and pant until I figure out what it is. Usually something that got left close to his food dish or where he lays down. My daughter has the OCD PANDAS type symptoms, but her strep titers are really low, like her body doesn't recognize strep. It's just bizarre how all of us can have the same type symptoms, even the dog. Makes me wonder if it is strep with all of us, or maybe mold in the house, or some crazy virus. I am constantly tired, stomach problems now, this weird burning in my head occasionally, My daughter is sick more than well and OCD, my son is autistic and all the immune and methylating issues that go with that. And even the dog gets sick often with diahreah and some kind of sinus infection and he has mental issues. I am just trying to find a culprit.From: Angie <richardsonme (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wed, May 12, 2010 9:53:29 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism Have you or anyone in your family ever been tested for Lyme disease? Just a thought! > > Thanks for all the info Jen. I am one of those moms that had my son go into a seizure right in the doctors office after the MMR. So I know vaccines damaged my son. But I know there is some sort of virus in our house affecting us all. My daughter is sick as much as she is well, we get a lot of sore throats, sinus infections, glue ear, we all can no longer tolerate gluten or milk. (and I prided myself in having a stomach of steel) Now I get stomach aches all the time when I eat dairy or gluten. I get weird pressure or like burning feeling in my head, not a head ache. Even my dog has upper respiratory issues and can't digest certain dog foods. He also has phobias and won't go outside without an escort. (He is 180 lb Mastiff). It just feels like everything in our house is always sick. My kids don'tgo to day care or school so I don't know how they are sick so much. both have been high in metals, (my son we chelated, so he is ok now), but I am at a crossroads as to what to do next. I think the viral route might be our answer. Thanks for bringing it up. > > > From: jennifer smiglewski > To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com > Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 9:10:45 PM > Subject: Re: New reason for Autism > > > They do know that 5% of autistic people is genetic (Fragile X). But viruses can change, mutate our genes. HIV can cause cancer. If a child is born with a retro-virus handed down from the mother, but the virus isn't activated, then a shot or even a circumcision can trigger the virus. The 2 main triggers for XMRV are cortisal (a stress hormone and vaccines). These turn the virus on, and it starts replicating it's self. HIV uses metals, it ruins the methalation cycle where metals can't be removed from the body. J________________________________ From: T Lynn To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:12:40 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids. Ask any mom who witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and black out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree. Docs know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children. To declare that it bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head. Or that pollen and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have shellfish, anitbiotics, strawberries oryou name it. Everyone is different and everyone's body can and can not tolerate different things. As a matter of fact, it has crossed my mind more than once that the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person born with autism. does that make sense????_____________________ ___________ From: Kulp To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil, to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period. Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic chemicals,and/ or as with mysister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection. http://aje.oxfordjo urnals.org/ cgi/content/ full/161/ 10/916 ________________________________ From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! ! If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIVpatients???? J________________________________ From: T Lynn To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism , I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures. I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great, just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism..That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say? So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it.________________________________ From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PM Subject: New reason for Autism Posted - 05/06/ 2009 : 10:51:23________________________________ There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trialsbefore hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus. HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autism There is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism. The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrialdysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below). Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected children Impairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc). Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single orcombination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load. Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenicstimulation through vaccinations may enhance the susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis) Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism: Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrients Dysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function) Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and casein Lactose intolerance Sugar intolerance Inability to digest complex carbohydrates Inability to absorb fats and proteins Gastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload. Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans. Others: Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive children Impaired sensory – auditory and visual processing Subclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data onchildren) Pathological mechanisms in HIV infection HIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism) HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism) HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism) Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected antiretroviral effects: • chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated bychelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals • Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents. • HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione • Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load. • Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect in HIV positive. • Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency. > > > >

[Guest guest]

for all our lab tests we used Quest labs. My son tested negative for Lyme but postive for Herpes Simplex I infection. He is on an antiviral. Herpes virus invades the nervous system and clusters around nerve endings and can get into the brain causing encephalitis.

Web sites about Herpes:

http://www.herpes-help.co.uk/index.html

http://www.herpesonline.org/articles/herpes_simplex_virus.html

You might find the study below interesting.

Autistic symptoms following herpes encephalitis

Ghaziuddin M, Al-Khouri I, Ghaziuddin N.

Division of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, University of Michigan Medical Center, Ann Arbor 48109-0390, USA. mghaziud@...

Abstract

Autism is a childhood onset neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by reciprocal social deficits, communication impairment, and rigid ritualistic interests, with the onset almost always before three years of age. Although the etiology of the disorder is strongly influenced by genes, environmental factors are also important. In this context, several reports have described its association with known medical conditions, including infections affecting the central nervous system. In this report, we describe an 11-year-old Asian youngster who developed the symptoms of autism following an episode of herpes encephalitis. In contrast to previous similar reports, imaging studies suggested a predominant involvement of the frontal lobes. At follow-up after three years, he continued to show the core deficits of autism. This case further supports the role of environmental factors, such as infections, in the etiology of autism, and suggests that in a minority

of cases, autistic symptoms can develop in later childhood.

Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12369775

Subject: Re: Re: New reason for AutismTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 12:33 AM

That is amazing!!!! I will have to study it more. Our son is the one with all the immune issues. My husband, I, and our daughter (6.5 months) hardly ever get sick; our son does. Here is a peice: Earlier this year Sage get the 8 hour stomach flu, Nate and I got it next on the same night it lasted about 8 hours also. the following day Luke got it and it lasted 3 days. I immune systems is struggling. I am compiling a list of test to be ran on Luke, we will make sure that we test for Lyme although I do not believe that in his case that is the cause.

Could anybody recommend a lab to have herpes titters sent?

One more question, if a strep titter is ran and it comes back with low numbers does that mean that strep can become an issue? Should I have more titters ran? Obviously he has strep it just wasn't flairing at the time? Does anybody know if this is correct?

JJ

From: "allrpossible@ gmail.com" <allrpossible@ gmail.com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, May 14, 2010 11:14:06 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

I seen a YouTube video where this one family all had Lyme. One had autism, one had arthritis, one had heart problems, etc. Everyone took antibiotics, and their symptoms went away, even though they were all different. None remembered having a tick bite. I have seen gobs of reports that most with Lyme have no memory of having a tick bite, nor bulls-eye rash. It is believed to be transmittable via sex and pregnancy. Also, since it's a bacteria, it can be transmitted in most of the ways bacteria is transmitted. But, it will not grow outside of the body. I can not say it doesn't live outside of the body in some hibernated form, but it will not grow outside of the body. It dies about 106 degrees Fahrenheit, so hot things kill it. But, then again, maybe it just turns to a hibernated crystallized form. I am not saying it does, just that this can not be ruled out as of yet. Since it can live in many

animals, I suppose eating raw meat or pets can transfer it. It lives in all body fluids, tears, urine, etc. I don't know if it's transferable this way since I have not seen studies on it. What I do know is that it's pleomorphic, just like mycoplasma (Gulf War Syndrome) and Bartonella. XMRV, HTLV-1, and HIV are also pleomorphic. Thus, any of these can burn out the immune system, making one unable to handle toxins and other pathogens, which can cause any symptom known to man. Once the immune system is damaged, anything can happen. Oddly, many are also testing positive for these pleos with little or no symptoms. So, they seem to damage the immune system, but the person can manage if there are no strong immune stressors. Once a strong immune stressor comes along, then the immune system seems to start stock-piling pathogens and toxins, as well as the digestive system becomes dysfunctional. I think many have

several of the pleomorphic pathogens, not just one.Love and prayers,Heidi NHow would you guys have aquired Lyme? That just baffles me! Can Lyme be transferred from person to person in others ways then blood?JJ

[Guest guest]

for all our lab tests we used Quest labs. My son tested negative for Lyme but postive for Herpes Simplex I infection. He is on an antiviral. Herpes virus invades the nervous system and clusters around nerve endings and can get into the brain causing encephalitis.

Web sites about Herpes:

http://www.herpes-help.co.uk/index.html

http://www.herpesonline.org/articles/herpes_simplex_virus.html

You might find the study below interesting.

Autistic symptoms following herpes encephalitis

Ghaziuddin M, Al-Khouri I, Ghaziuddin N.

Division of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, University of Michigan Medical Center, Ann Arbor 48109-0390, USA. mghaziud@...

Abstract

Autism is a childhood onset neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by reciprocal social deficits, communication impairment, and rigid ritualistic interests, with the onset almost always before three years of age. Although the etiology of the disorder is strongly influenced by genes, environmental factors are also important. In this context, several reports have described its association with known medical conditions, including infections affecting the central nervous system. In this report, we describe an 11-year-old Asian youngster who developed the symptoms of autism following an episode of herpes encephalitis. In contrast to previous similar reports, imaging studies suggested a predominant involvement of the frontal lobes. At follow-up after three years, he continued to show the core deficits of autism. This case further supports the role of environmental factors, such as infections, in the etiology of autism, and suggests that in a minority

of cases, autistic symptoms can develop in later childhood.

Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12369775

Subject: Re: Re: New reason for AutismTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 12:33 AM

That is amazing!!!! I will have to study it more. Our son is the one with all the immune issues. My husband, I, and our daughter (6.5 months) hardly ever get sick; our son does. Here is a peice: Earlier this year Sage get the 8 hour stomach flu, Nate and I got it next on the same night it lasted about 8 hours also. the following day Luke got it and it lasted 3 days. I immune systems is struggling. I am compiling a list of test to be ran on Luke, we will make sure that we test for Lyme although I do not believe that in his case that is the cause.

Could anybody recommend a lab to have herpes titters sent?

One more question, if a strep titter is ran and it comes back with low numbers does that mean that strep can become an issue? Should I have more titters ran? Obviously he has strep it just wasn't flairing at the time? Does anybody know if this is correct?

JJ

From: "allrpossible@ gmail.com" <allrpossible@ gmail.com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, May 14, 2010 11:14:06 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

I seen a YouTube video where this one family all had Lyme. One had autism, one had arthritis, one had heart problems, etc. Everyone took antibiotics, and their symptoms went away, even though they were all different. None remembered having a tick bite. I have seen gobs of reports that most with Lyme have no memory of having a tick bite, nor bulls-eye rash. It is believed to be transmittable via sex and pregnancy. Also, since it's a bacteria, it can be transmitted in most of the ways bacteria is transmitted. But, it will not grow outside of the body. I can not say it doesn't live outside of the body in some hibernated form, but it will not grow outside of the body. It dies about 106 degrees Fahrenheit, so hot things kill it. But, then again, maybe it just turns to a hibernated crystallized form. I am not saying it does, just that this can not be ruled out as of yet. Since it can live in many

animals, I suppose eating raw meat or pets can transfer it. It lives in all body fluids, tears, urine, etc. I don't know if it's transferable this way since I have not seen studies on it. What I do know is that it's pleomorphic, just like mycoplasma (Gulf War Syndrome) and Bartonella. XMRV, HTLV-1, and HIV are also pleomorphic. Thus, any of these can burn out the immune system, making one unable to handle toxins and other pathogens, which can cause any symptom known to man. Once the immune system is damaged, anything can happen. Oddly, many are also testing positive for these pleos with little or no symptoms. So, they seem to damage the immune system, but the person can manage if there are no strong immune stressors. Once a strong immune stressor comes along, then the immune system seems to start stock-piling pathogens and toxins, as well as the digestive system becomes dysfunctional. I think many have

several of the pleomorphic pathogens, not just one.Love and prayers,Heidi NHow would you guys have aquired Lyme? That just baffles me! Can Lyme be transferred from person to person in others ways then blood?JJ

[Guest guest]

for all our lab tests we used Quest labs. My son tested negative for Lyme but postive for Herpes Simplex I infection. He is on an antiviral. Herpes virus invades the nervous system and clusters around nerve endings and can get into the brain causing encephalitis.

Web sites about Herpes:

http://www.herpes-help.co.uk/index.html

http://www.herpesonline.org/articles/herpes_simplex_virus.html

You might find the study below interesting.

Autistic symptoms following herpes encephalitis

Ghaziuddin M, Al-Khouri I, Ghaziuddin N.

Division of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, University of Michigan Medical Center, Ann Arbor 48109-0390, USA. mghaziud@...

Abstract

Autism is a childhood onset neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by reciprocal social deficits, communication impairment, and rigid ritualistic interests, with the onset almost always before three years of age. Although the etiology of the disorder is strongly influenced by genes, environmental factors are also important. In this context, several reports have described its association with known medical conditions, including infections affecting the central nervous system. In this report, we describe an 11-year-old Asian youngster who developed the symptoms of autism following an episode of herpes encephalitis. In contrast to previous similar reports, imaging studies suggested a predominant involvement of the frontal lobes. At follow-up after three years, he continued to show the core deficits of autism. This case further supports the role of environmental factors, such as infections, in the etiology of autism, and suggests that in a minority

of cases, autistic symptoms can develop in later childhood.

Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12369775

Subject: Re: Re: New reason for AutismTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 12:33 AM

That is amazing!!!! I will have to study it more. Our son is the one with all the immune issues. My husband, I, and our daughter (6.5 months) hardly ever get sick; our son does. Here is a peice: Earlier this year Sage get the 8 hour stomach flu, Nate and I got it next on the same night it lasted about 8 hours also. the following day Luke got it and it lasted 3 days. I immune systems is struggling. I am compiling a list of test to be ran on Luke, we will make sure that we test for Lyme although I do not believe that in his case that is the cause.

Could anybody recommend a lab to have herpes titters sent?

One more question, if a strep titter is ran and it comes back with low numbers does that mean that strep can become an issue? Should I have more titters ran? Obviously he has strep it just wasn't flairing at the time? Does anybody know if this is correct?

JJ

From: "allrpossible@ gmail.com" <allrpossible@ gmail.com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, May 14, 2010 11:14:06 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

I seen a YouTube video where this one family all had Lyme. One had autism, one had arthritis, one had heart problems, etc. Everyone took antibiotics, and their symptoms went away, even though they were all different. None remembered having a tick bite. I have seen gobs of reports that most with Lyme have no memory of having a tick bite, nor bulls-eye rash. It is believed to be transmittable via sex and pregnancy. Also, since it's a bacteria, it can be transmitted in most of the ways bacteria is transmitted. But, it will not grow outside of the body. I can not say it doesn't live outside of the body in some hibernated form, but it will not grow outside of the body. It dies about 106 degrees Fahrenheit, so hot things kill it. But, then again, maybe it just turns to a hibernated crystallized form. I am not saying it does, just that this can not be ruled out as of yet. Since it can live in many

animals, I suppose eating raw meat or pets can transfer it. It lives in all body fluids, tears, urine, etc. I don't know if it's transferable this way since I have not seen studies on it. What I do know is that it's pleomorphic, just like mycoplasma (Gulf War Syndrome) and Bartonella. XMRV, HTLV-1, and HIV are also pleomorphic. Thus, any of these can burn out the immune system, making one unable to handle toxins and other pathogens, which can cause any symptom known to man. Once the immune system is damaged, anything can happen. Oddly, many are also testing positive for these pleos with little or no symptoms. So, they seem to damage the immune system, but the person can manage if there are no strong immune stressors. Once a strong immune stressor comes along, then the immune system seems to start stock-piling pathogens and toxins, as well as the digestive system becomes dysfunctional. I think many have

several of the pleomorphic pathogens, not just one.Love and prayers,Heidi NHow would you guys have aquired Lyme? That just baffles me! Can Lyme be transferred from person to person in others ways then blood?JJ

[Guest guest]

I have read that it has been found in many of the common biting

insects, but have not seen that they did a study to see if it was

transmitted this way. Last year I read a newspaper article that a

jogger got stung by a biting fly and got the bulls-eye rash the next

day.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

Being from the south, I wondered if mosquitos could cause the

transmission of Lyme disease. I did a search and found many articles on

this matter. Here is a link that discusses the possible link being from

mosquitos, fleas,mites.

http://www.samento.com.ec/sciencelib/4lyme/Townsendhowens.html

<http://www.samento.com.ec/sciencelib/4lyme/Townsendhowens.html>

I may have to investigate Lyme disease for my little guy. Lyme disease

is not something that is found or common here in South Texas. This is

scary stuff folks.

Cristine

[Guest guest]

I have read that it has been found in many of the common biting

insects, but have not seen that they did a study to see if it was

transmitted this way. Last year I read a newspaper article that a

jogger got stung by a biting fly and got the bulls-eye rash the next

day.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

Being from the south, I wondered if mosquitos could cause the

transmission of Lyme disease. I did a search and found many articles on

this matter. Here is a link that discusses the possible link being from

mosquitos, fleas,mites.

http://www.samento.com.ec/sciencelib/4lyme/Townsendhowens.html

<http://www.samento.com.ec/sciencelib/4lyme/Townsendhowens.html>

I may have to investigate Lyme disease for my little guy. Lyme disease

is not something that is found or common here in South Texas. This is

scary stuff folks.

Cristine

[Guest guest]

I have read that it has been found in many of the common biting

insects, but have not seen that they did a study to see if it was

transmitted this way. Last year I read a newspaper article that a

jogger got stung by a biting fly and got the bulls-eye rash the next

day.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

Being from the south, I wondered if mosquitos could cause the

transmission of Lyme disease. I did a search and found many articles on

this matter. Here is a link that discusses the possible link being from

mosquitos, fleas,mites.

http://www.samento.com.ec/sciencelib/4lyme/Townsendhowens.html

<http://www.samento.com.ec/sciencelib/4lyme/Townsendhowens.html>

I may have to investigate Lyme disease for my little guy. Lyme disease

is not something that is found or common here in South Texas. This is

scary stuff folks.

Cristine

[Guest guest]

My kids tested positive for Strep via blood test by CPL (Clinical

Pathology Labs). If you treat for strep for a month or so, and then do

a Lyme test, you will be more likely to test positive for the Lyme.

Lyme testing is highly inaccurate due to the immune system too weakened

to produce the antibodies needed to show a positive result. Most use

Igenex Labs and try to kill the Lyme for a month or more before testing,

in order to reduce the Lyme load to give the immune system more strength

to produce antibodies.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

That is amazing!!!! I will have to study it more. Our son is the one

with all the immune issues. My husband, I, and our daughter (6.5

months) hardly ever get sick; our son does. Here is a peice: Earlier

this year Sage get the 8 hour stomach flu, Nate and I got it next on the

same night it lasted about 8 hours also. the following day Luke got it

and it lasted 3 days. I immune systems is struggling. I am compiling a

list of test to be ran on Luke, we will make sure that we test for Lyme

although I do not believe that in his case that is the cause.

Could anybody recommend a lab to have herpes titters sent?

One more question, if a strep titter is ran and it comes back with low

numbers does that mean that strep can become an issue? Should I have

more titters ran? Obviously he has strep it just wasn't flairing at the

time? Does anybody know if this is correct?

JJ

[Guest guest]

My kids tested positive for Strep via blood test by CPL (Clinical

Pathology Labs). If you treat for strep for a month or so, and then do

a Lyme test, you will be more likely to test positive for the Lyme.

Lyme testing is highly inaccurate due to the immune system too weakened

to produce the antibodies needed to show a positive result. Most use

Igenex Labs and try to kill the Lyme for a month or more before testing,

in order to reduce the Lyme load to give the immune system more strength

to produce antibodies.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

That is amazing!!!! I will have to study it more. Our son is the one

with all the immune issues. My husband, I, and our daughter (6.5

months) hardly ever get sick; our son does. Here is a peice: Earlier

this year Sage get the 8 hour stomach flu, Nate and I got it next on the

same night it lasted about 8 hours also. the following day Luke got it

and it lasted 3 days. I immune systems is struggling. I am compiling a

list of test to be ran on Luke, we will make sure that we test for Lyme

although I do not believe that in his case that is the cause.

Could anybody recommend a lab to have herpes titters sent?

One more question, if a strep titter is ran and it comes back with low

numbers does that mean that strep can become an issue? Should I have

more titters ran? Obviously he has strep it just wasn't flairing at the

time? Does anybody know if this is correct?

JJ

[Guest guest]

My kids tested positive for Strep via blood test by CPL (Clinical

Pathology Labs). If you treat for strep for a month or so, and then do

a Lyme test, you will be more likely to test positive for the Lyme.

Lyme testing is highly inaccurate due to the immune system too weakened

to produce the antibodies needed to show a positive result. Most use

Igenex Labs and try to kill the Lyme for a month or more before testing,

in order to reduce the Lyme load to give the immune system more strength

to produce antibodies.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

That is amazing!!!! I will have to study it more. Our son is the one

with all the immune issues. My husband, I, and our daughter (6.5

months) hardly ever get sick; our son does. Here is a peice: Earlier

this year Sage get the 8 hour stomach flu, Nate and I got it next on the

same night it lasted about 8 hours also. the following day Luke got it

and it lasted 3 days. I immune systems is struggling. I am compiling a

list of test to be ran on Luke, we will make sure that we test for Lyme

although I do not believe that in his case that is the cause.

Could anybody recommend a lab to have herpes titters sent?

One more question, if a strep titter is ran and it comes back with low

numbers does that mean that strep can become an issue? Should I have

more titters ran? Obviously he has strep it just wasn't flairing at the

time? Does anybody know if this is correct?

JJ