Re: New reason for Autism

[Guest guest]

There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil,to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period.Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic chemicals,and/or as with my sister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection.

http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/161/10/916

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! !

If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIV patients????

J

From: T Lynn <t.lynn28@rocketmail .com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

, I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures.

I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great, just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism.. That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say? So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it.

From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chemyahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PMSubject: New reason for Autism

Posted - 05/06/2009 : 10:51:23

There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus.

HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autismThere is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism.The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic

inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below).Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected childrenImpairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc).Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some

degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load.Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the

susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis)Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism:Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrientsDysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and caseinLactose intoleranceSugar intoleranceInability to digest complex carbohydratesInability to absorb fats and proteinsGastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload.Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.Others:Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive childrenImpaired sensory – auditory and visual

processingSubclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)Pathological mechanisms in HIV infectionHIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism)Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected

antiretroviral effects:• chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals• Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents.• HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione• Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load.• Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect

in HIV positive.• Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.

[Guest guest]

There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil,to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period.Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic chemicals,and/or as with my sister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection.

http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/161/10/916

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! !

If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIV patients????

J

From: T Lynn <t.lynn28@rocketmail .com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

, I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures.

I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great, just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism.. That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say? So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it.

From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chemyahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PMSubject: New reason for Autism

Posted - 05/06/2009 : 10:51:23

There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus.

HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autismThere is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism.The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic

inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below).Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected childrenImpairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc).Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some

degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load.Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the

susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis)Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism:Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrientsDysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and caseinLactose intoleranceSugar intoleranceInability to digest complex carbohydratesInability to absorb fats and proteinsGastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload.Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.Others:Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive childrenImpaired sensory – auditory and visual

processingSubclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)Pathological mechanisms in HIV infectionHIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism)Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected

antiretroviral effects:• chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals• Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents.• HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione• Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load.• Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect

in HIV positive.• Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.

[Guest guest]

There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil,to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period.Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic chemicals,and/or as with my sister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection.

http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/161/10/916

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! !

If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIV patients????

J

From: T Lynn <t.lynn28@rocketmail .com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

, I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures.

I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great, just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism.. That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say? So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it.

From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chemyahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PMSubject: New reason for Autism

Posted - 05/06/2009 : 10:51:23

There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus.

HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autismThere is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism.The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic

inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below).Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected childrenImpairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc).Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some

degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load.Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the

susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis)Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism:Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrientsDysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and caseinLactose intoleranceSugar intoleranceInability to digest complex carbohydratesInability to absorb fats and proteinsGastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload.Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.Others:Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive childrenImpaired sensory – auditory and visual

processingSubclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)Pathological mechanisms in HIV infectionHIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism)Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected

antiretroviral effects:• chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals• Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents.• HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione• Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load.• Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect

in HIV positive.• Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.

[Guest guest]

Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids. Ask any mom who witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and black out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree. Docs know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children. To declare that it bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head. Or that pollen and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have

shellfish, anitbiotics, strawberries or you name it. Everyone is different and everyone's body can and can not tolerate different things. As a matter of fact, it has crossed my mind more than once that the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person born with autism. does that make sense????

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil,to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period. Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic chemicals,and/ or as with my sister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection.

http://aje.oxfordjo urnals.org/ cgi/content/ full/161/ 10/916

From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chemyahoo (DOT) com> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! !

If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIV patients????

J

From: T Lynn <t.lynn28@rocketmail .com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

, I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures.

I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great, just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism.. That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say? So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it.

From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chemyahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PMSubject: New reason for Autism

Posted - 05/06/2009 : 10:51:23

There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus.

HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autismThere is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism.The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic

inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below).Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected childrenImpairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc).Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some

degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load.Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the

susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis)Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism:Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrientsDysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and caseinLactose intoleranceSugar intoleranceInability to digest complex carbohydratesInability to absorb fats and proteinsGastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload.Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.Others:Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive childrenImpaired sensory – auditory and visual

processingSubclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)Pathological mechanisms in HIV infectionHIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism)Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected

antiretroviral effects:• chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals• Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents.• HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione• Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load.• Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect

in HIV positive.• Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.

[Guest guest]

Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids. Ask any mom who witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and black out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree. Docs know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children. To declare that it bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head. Or that pollen and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have

shellfish, anitbiotics, strawberries or you name it. Everyone is different and everyone's body can and can not tolerate different things. As a matter of fact, it has crossed my mind more than once that the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person born with autism. does that make sense????

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil,to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period. Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic chemicals,and/ or as with my sister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection.

http://aje.oxfordjo urnals.org/ cgi/content/ full/161/ 10/916

From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chemyahoo (DOT) com> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! !

If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIV patients????

J

From: T Lynn <t.lynn28@rocketmail .com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

, I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures.

I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great, just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism.. That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say? So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it.

From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chemyahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PMSubject: New reason for Autism

Posted - 05/06/2009 : 10:51:23

There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus.

HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autismThere is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism.The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic

inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below).Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected childrenImpairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc).Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some

degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load.Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the

susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis)Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism:Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrientsDysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and caseinLactose intoleranceSugar intoleranceInability to digest complex carbohydratesInability to absorb fats and proteinsGastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload.Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.Others:Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive childrenImpaired sensory – auditory and visual

processingSubclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)Pathological mechanisms in HIV infectionHIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism)Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected

antiretroviral effects:• chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals• Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents.• HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione• Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load.• Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect

in HIV positive.• Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.

[Guest guest]

Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids. Ask any mom who witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and black out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree. Docs know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children. To declare that it bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head. Or that pollen and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have

shellfish, anitbiotics, strawberries or you name it. Everyone is different and everyone's body can and can not tolerate different things. As a matter of fact, it has crossed my mind more than once that the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person born with autism. does that make sense????

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil,to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period. Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic chemicals,and/ or as with my sister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection.

http://aje.oxfordjo urnals.org/ cgi/content/ full/161/ 10/916

From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chemyahoo (DOT) com> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! !

If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIV patients????

J

From: T Lynn <t.lynn28@rocketmail .com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

, I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures.

I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great, just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism.. That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say? So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it.

From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chemyahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PMSubject: New reason for Autism

Posted - 05/06/2009 : 10:51:23

There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus.

HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autismThere is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism.The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic

inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below).Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected childrenImpairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc).Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some

degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load.Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the

susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis)Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism:Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrientsDysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and caseinLactose intoleranceSugar intoleranceInability to digest complex carbohydratesInability to absorb fats and proteinsGastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload.Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.Others:Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive childrenImpaired sensory – auditory and visual

processingSubclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)Pathological mechanisms in HIV infectionHIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism)Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected

antiretroviral effects:• chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals• Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents.• HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione• Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load.• Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect

in HIV positive.• Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.

[Guest guest]

So even if we were to assume that something goes wrong invitro every time and the mother has to be exposed to some sort of toxic chemical in order for autism to occur then we better fasten our sealt belts as currently the early yrs. vaccs are up to what? 55? most of those contain are toxic chemicals? so what will the autism number look like in our children's children????? So whether or not it's the actual cause, they are still causing great harm. And the cdc has become way too reckless as to what's necessary for general public safety. It's all about money. If these pedi's were to take all the chemicals they're asked to inject in our children and pour them into the ground, the epa would be hauling their a****off to jail for

environmental crimes. Take a look some time at the some of the people who "advise" the CDC - they are not looking out for you and me. They're looking out for their wallets. So while we worry how we're going to come up with the cash for HBOT, they're planning this year's family ski trip to Vail.

Believe me, I don't think for a second it's all about the vacs. I think many stressors play a role. It just makes me sick that these scum sucking bottom feeders know what they know and call us "crazy" when we call them out on it and hold them accountable. And any doc, who willingly goes along with the idea off 55 innoculations without even stopping to consider the fact it could very well be dangerous is just as guilty. Playing stupid doesn't sit well with me.

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 1:12:40 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids. Ask any mom who witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and black out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree. Docs know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children. To declare that it bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head. Or that pollen and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have shellfish, anitbiotics, strawberries or you name it. Everyone is different and everyone's body can and can not tolerate different things. As a

matter of fact, it has crossed my mind more than once that the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person born with autism. does that make sense????

From: Kulp <thorenstd124@ yahoo.com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil,to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period. Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic chemicals,and/ or as with my sister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection.

http://aje.oxfordjo urnals.org/ cgi/content/ full/161/ 10/916

From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chemyahoo (DOT) com> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! !

If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIV patients????

J

From: T Lynn <t.lynn28@rocketmail .com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

, I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures.

I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great, just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism.. That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say? So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it.

From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chemyahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PMSubject: New reason for Autism

Posted - 05/06/2009 : 10:51:23

There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus.

HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autismThere is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism.The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic

inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below).Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected childrenImpairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc).Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some

degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load.Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the

susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis)Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism:Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrientsDysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and caseinLactose intoleranceSugar intoleranceInability to digest complex carbohydratesInability to absorb fats and proteinsGastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload.Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.Others:Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive childrenImpaired sensory – auditory and visual

processingSubclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)Pathological mechanisms in HIV infectionHIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism)Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected

antiretroviral effects:• chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals• Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents.• HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione• Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load.• Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect

in HIV positive.• Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.

[Guest guest]

So even if we were to assume that something goes wrong invitro every time and the mother has to be exposed to some sort of toxic chemical in order for autism to occur then we better fasten our sealt belts as currently the early yrs. vaccs are up to what? 55? most of those contain are toxic chemicals? so what will the autism number look like in our children's children????? So whether or not it's the actual cause, they are still causing great harm. And the cdc has become way too reckless as to what's necessary for general public safety. It's all about money. If these pedi's were to take all the chemicals they're asked to inject in our children and pour them into the ground, the epa would be hauling their a****off to jail for

environmental crimes. Take a look some time at the some of the people who "advise" the CDC - they are not looking out for you and me. They're looking out for their wallets. So while we worry how we're going to come up with the cash for HBOT, they're planning this year's family ski trip to Vail.

Believe me, I don't think for a second it's all about the vacs. I think many stressors play a role. It just makes me sick that these scum sucking bottom feeders know what they know and call us "crazy" when we call them out on it and hold them accountable. And any doc, who willingly goes along with the idea off 55 innoculations without even stopping to consider the fact it could very well be dangerous is just as guilty. Playing stupid doesn't sit well with me.

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 1:12:40 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids. Ask any mom who witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and black out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree. Docs know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children. To declare that it bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head. Or that pollen and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have shellfish, anitbiotics, strawberries or you name it. Everyone is different and everyone's body can and can not tolerate different things. As a

matter of fact, it has crossed my mind more than once that the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person born with autism. does that make sense????

From: Kulp <thorenstd124@ yahoo.com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil,to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period. Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic chemicals,and/ or as with my sister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection.

http://aje.oxfordjo urnals.org/ cgi/content/ full/161/ 10/916

From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chemyahoo (DOT) com> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! !

If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIV patients????

J

From: T Lynn <t.lynn28@rocketmail .com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

, I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures.

I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great, just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism.. That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say? So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it.

From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chemyahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PMSubject: New reason for Autism

Posted - 05/06/2009 : 10:51:23

There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus.

HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autismThere is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism.The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic

inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below).Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected childrenImpairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc).Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some

degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load.Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the

susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis)Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism:Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrientsDysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and caseinLactose intoleranceSugar intoleranceInability to digest complex carbohydratesInability to absorb fats and proteinsGastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload.Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.Others:Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive childrenImpaired sensory – auditory and visual

processingSubclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)Pathological mechanisms in HIV infectionHIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism)Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected

antiretroviral effects:• chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals• Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents.• HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione• Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load.• Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect

in HIV positive.• Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.

[Guest guest]



we had no issues before, my son was perfectly healthy before vaccinations damagfed him.....

New reason for Autism

Posted - 05/06/2009 : 10:51:23

There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus.

HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autismThere is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism.The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below).Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected childrenImpairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc).Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load.Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis)Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism:Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrientsDysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and caseinLactose intoleranceSugar intoleranceInability to digest complex carbohydratesInability to absorb fats and proteinsGastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload.Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.Others:Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive childrenImpaired sensory – auditory and visual processingSubclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)Pathological mechanisms in HIV infectionHIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism)Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected antiretroviral effects:• chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals• Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents.• HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione• Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load.• Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect in HIV positive.• Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.

[Guest guest]



we had no issues before, my son was perfectly healthy before vaccinations damagfed him.....

New reason for Autism

Posted - 05/06/2009 : 10:51:23

There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus.

HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autismThere is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism.The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below).Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected childrenImpairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc).Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load.Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis)Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism:Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrientsDysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and caseinLactose intoleranceSugar intoleranceInability to digest complex carbohydratesInability to absorb fats and proteinsGastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload.Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.Others:Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive childrenImpaired sensory – auditory and visual processingSubclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)Pathological mechanisms in HIV infectionHIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism)Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected antiretroviral effects:• chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals• Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents.• HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione• Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load.• Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect in HIV positive.• Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.

[Guest guest]



we had no issues before, my son was perfectly healthy before vaccinations damagfed him.....

New reason for Autism

Posted - 05/06/2009 : 10:51:23

There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus.

HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autismThere is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism.The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below).Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected childrenImpairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc).Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load.Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis)Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism:Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrientsDysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and caseinLactose intoleranceSugar intoleranceInability to digest complex carbohydratesInability to absorb fats and proteinsGastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload.Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.Others:Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive childrenImpaired sensory – auditory and visual processingSubclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)Pathological mechanisms in HIV infectionHIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism)Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected antiretroviral effects:• chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals• Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents.• HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione• Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load.• Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect in HIV positive.• Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.

[Guest guest]

Yup. I have a regressive kid. His head was a normal size and he talked - until

the DTaP (I have recorded audio). Just google " dtap encephalitis " or " dtap

brain swelling. " Then google " brain growth autism. " Yeah.

CGF

>

> Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about

vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids.  Ask any mom who

witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any

mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and

black out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree.  Docs

know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the

almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children.  To declare that it

bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat

peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head.  Or that pollen

and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have shellfish,

anitbiotics, strawberries or you name it.  Everyone is different and everyone's

body can  and can not tolerate different things.   As a matter of fact, it

has crossed my mind more than

> once that the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not

literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person

born with autism.   does that make sense????

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PM

> Subject: Re: New reason for Autism

>

>  

> There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from

vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil,to vaccines

" causing "  autism...>

[Guest guest]

Yup. I have a regressive kid. His head was a normal size and he talked - until

the DTaP (I have recorded audio). Just google " dtap encephalitis " or " dtap

brain swelling. " Then google " brain growth autism. " Yeah.

CGF

>

> Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about

vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids.  Ask any mom who

witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any

mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and

black out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree.  Docs

know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the

almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children.  To declare that it

bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat

peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head.  Or that pollen

and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have shellfish,

anitbiotics, strawberries or you name it.  Everyone is different and everyone's

body can  and can not tolerate different things.   As a matter of fact, it

has crossed my mind more than

> once that the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not

literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person

born with autism.   does that make sense????

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PM

> Subject: Re: New reason for Autism

>

>  

> There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from

vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil,to vaccines

" causing "  autism...>

[Guest guest]

Yup. I have a regressive kid. His head was a normal size and he talked - until

the DTaP (I have recorded audio). Just google " dtap encephalitis " or " dtap

brain swelling. " Then google " brain growth autism. " Yeah.

CGF

>

> Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about

vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids.  Ask any mom who

witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any

mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and

black out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree.  Docs

know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the

almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children.  To declare that it

bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat

peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head.  Or that pollen

and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have shellfish,

anitbiotics, strawberries or you name it.  Everyone is different and everyone's

body can  and can not tolerate different things.   As a matter of fact, it

has crossed my mind more than

> once that the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not

literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person

born with autism.   does that make sense????

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PM

> Subject: Re: New reason for Autism

>

>  

> There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from

vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil,to vaccines

" causing "  autism...>

[Guest guest]

Vacinnation esp. a live virus one is certainly a big event for an infant & does directly impact the immune system. When you look at all the studies & the noise around vaccination being safe & tested for everybody & no evidence of it being linked to Autism - the whole system is fraught with conflicts of interest. A Public health system that would like to keep its population free of infectious diseases even at the cost of few Autistic cases in the population (Like the canary in the coal mine - the 1 in 81 is hardly a tipping point for them if one is to looking at it statistically as the numbers probably don't look good if the 50% of the population were not to vaccinate), a pharmaceutical industry that profits from vaccinations & more so if they are done together and insurance

industry who probably save big on claims.So who really can be trusted to be objective - there is conflicts of interest all over. Besides parents & family & some well meaning professionals who have the big advantage of first hand information nevertheless chided by the establishment as crazy as it conflicts their interests. Safety in vacinnes & alternate immunizations research is key. Just my two centsTo: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 10:12:40 AMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids. Ask any mom who witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and black out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree. Docs know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children. To declare that it bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head. Or that pollen and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have

shellfish, anitbiotics, strawberries or you name it. Everyone is different and everyone's body can and can not tolerate different things. As a matter of fact, it has crossed my mind more than once that the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person born with autism. does that make sense????

From: Kulp <thorenstd124@ yahoo.com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil,to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period. Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic chemicals,and/ or as with my sister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection.

http://aje.oxfordjo urnals.org/ cgi/content/ full/161/ 10/916

From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chemyahoo (DOT) com> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! !

If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIV patients????

J

From: T Lynn <t.lynn28@rocketmail .com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

, I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures.

I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great, just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism.. That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say? So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it.

From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chemyahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PMSubject: New reason for Autism

Posted - 05/06/2009 : 10:51:23

There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus.

HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autismThere is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism.The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione

depletion, chronic

inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below).Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected childrenImpairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc).Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some

degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load.Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the

susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis)Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism:Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrientsDysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and caseinLactose intoleranceSugar intoleranceInability to digest complex carbohydratesInability to absorb fats and proteinsGastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload.Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.Others:Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive childrenImpaired sensory – auditory and visual

processingSubclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)Pathological mechanisms in HIV infectionHIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism)Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected

antiretroviral effects:• chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals• Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents.• HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione• Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load.• Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect

in HIV positive.• Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.

[Guest guest]

Vacinnation esp. a live virus one is certainly a big event for an infant & does directly impact the immune system. When you look at all the studies & the noise around vaccination being safe & tested for everybody & no evidence of it being linked to Autism - the whole system is fraught with conflicts of interest. A Public health system that would like to keep its population free of infectious diseases even at the cost of few Autistic cases in the population (Like the canary in the coal mine - the 1 in 81 is hardly a tipping point for them if one is to looking at it statistically as the numbers probably don't look good if the 50% of the population were not to vaccinate), a pharmaceutical industry that profits from vaccinations & more so if they are done together and insurance

industry who probably save big on claims.So who really can be trusted to be objective - there is conflicts of interest all over. Besides parents & family & some well meaning professionals who have the big advantage of first hand information nevertheless chided by the establishment as crazy as it conflicts their interests. Safety in vacinnes & alternate immunizations research is key. Just my two centsTo: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 10:12:40 AMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids. Ask any mom who witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and black out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree. Docs know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children. To declare that it bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head. Or that pollen and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have

shellfish, anitbiotics, strawberries or you name it. Everyone is different and everyone's body can and can not tolerate different things. As a matter of fact, it has crossed my mind more than once that the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person born with autism. does that make sense????

From: Kulp <thorenstd124@ yahoo.com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil,to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period. Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic chemicals,and/ or as with my sister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection.

http://aje.oxfordjo urnals.org/ cgi/content/ full/161/ 10/916

From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chemyahoo (DOT) com> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! !

If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIV patients????

J

From: T Lynn <t.lynn28@rocketmail .com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

, I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures.

I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great, just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism.. That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say? So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it.

From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chemyahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PMSubject: New reason for Autism

Posted - 05/06/2009 : 10:51:23

There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus.

HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autismThere is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism.The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione

depletion, chronic

inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below).Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected childrenImpairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc).Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some

degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load.Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the

susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis)Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism:Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrientsDysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and caseinLactose intoleranceSugar intoleranceInability to digest complex carbohydratesInability to absorb fats and proteinsGastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload.Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.Others:Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive childrenImpaired sensory – auditory and visual

processingSubclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)Pathological mechanisms in HIV infectionHIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism)Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected

antiretroviral effects:• chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals• Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents.• HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione• Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load.• Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect

in HIV positive.• Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.

[Guest guest]

Vacinnation esp. a live virus one is certainly a big event for an infant & does directly impact the immune system. When you look at all the studies & the noise around vaccination being safe & tested for everybody & no evidence of it being linked to Autism - the whole system is fraught with conflicts of interest. A Public health system that would like to keep its population free of infectious diseases even at the cost of few Autistic cases in the population (Like the canary in the coal mine - the 1 in 81 is hardly a tipping point for them if one is to looking at it statistically as the numbers probably don't look good if the 50% of the population were not to vaccinate), a pharmaceutical industry that profits from vaccinations & more so if they are done together and insurance

industry who probably save big on claims.So who really can be trusted to be objective - there is conflicts of interest all over. Besides parents & family & some well meaning professionals who have the big advantage of first hand information nevertheless chided by the establishment as crazy as it conflicts their interests. Safety in vacinnes & alternate immunizations research is key. Just my two centsTo: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 10:12:40 AMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids. Ask any mom who witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and black out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree. Docs know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children. To declare that it bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head. Or that pollen and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have

shellfish, anitbiotics, strawberries or you name it. Everyone is different and everyone's body can and can not tolerate different things. As a matter of fact, it has crossed my mind more than once that the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person born with autism. does that make sense????

From: Kulp <thorenstd124@ yahoo.com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil,to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period. Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic chemicals,and/ or as with my sister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection.

http://aje.oxfordjo urnals.org/ cgi/content/ full/161/ 10/916

From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chemyahoo (DOT) com> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! !

If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIV patients????

J

From: T Lynn <t.lynn28@rocketmail .com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

, I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures.

I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great, just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism.. That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say? So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it.

From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chemyahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PMSubject: New reason for Autism

Posted - 05/06/2009 : 10:51:23

There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus.

HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autismThere is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism.The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione

depletion, chronic

inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below).Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected childrenImpairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc).Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some

degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load.Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the

susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis)Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism:Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrientsDysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and caseinLactose intoleranceSugar intoleranceInability to digest complex carbohydratesInability to absorb fats and proteinsGastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload.Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.Others:Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive childrenImpaired sensory – auditory and visual

processingSubclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)Pathological mechanisms in HIV infectionHIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism)Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected

antiretroviral effects:• chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals• Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents.• HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione• Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load.• Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect

in HIV positive.• Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.

[Guest guest]

They do know that 5% of autistic people is genetic (Fragile X). But viruses can change, mutate our genes. HIV can cause cancer. If a child is born with a retro-virus handed down from the mother, but the virus isn't activated, then a shot or even a circumcision can trigger the virus. The 2 main triggers for XMRV are cortisal (a stress hormone and vaccines). These turn the virus on, and it starts replicating it's self. HIV uses metals, it ruins the methalation cycle where metals can't be removed from the body.

J

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:12:40 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids. Ask any mom who witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and black out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree. Docs know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children. To declare that it bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head. Or that pollen and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have shellfish, anitbiotics, strawberries or you name it. Everyone is different and everyone's body can and can not tolerate different things. As a

matter of fact, it has crossed my mind more than once that the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person born with autism. does that make sense????

From: Kulp <thorenstd124@ yahoo.com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil,to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period. Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic chemicals,and/ or as with my sister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection.

http://aje.oxfordjo urnals.org/ cgi/content/ full/161/ 10/916

From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chemyahoo (DOT) com> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! !

If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIV patients????

J

From: T Lynn <t.lynn28@rocketmail .com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

, I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures.

I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great, just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism.. That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say? So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it.

From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chemyahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PMSubject: New reason for Autism

Posted - 05/06/2009 : 10:51:23

There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus.

HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autismThere is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism.The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic

inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below).Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected childrenImpairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc).Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some

degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load.Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the

susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis)Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism:Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrientsDysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and caseinLactose intoleranceSugar intoleranceInability to digest complex carbohydratesInability to absorb fats and proteinsGastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload.Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.Others:Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive childrenImpaired sensory – auditory and visual

processingSubclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)Pathological mechanisms in HIV infectionHIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism)Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected

antiretroviral effects:• chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals• Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents.• HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione• Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load.• Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect

in HIV positive.• Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.

[Guest guest]

They do know that 5% of autistic people is genetic (Fragile X). But viruses can change, mutate our genes. HIV can cause cancer. If a child is born with a retro-virus handed down from the mother, but the virus isn't activated, then a shot or even a circumcision can trigger the virus. The 2 main triggers for XMRV are cortisal (a stress hormone and vaccines). These turn the virus on, and it starts replicating it's self. HIV uses metals, it ruins the methalation cycle where metals can't be removed from the body.

J

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:12:40 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids. Ask any mom who witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and black out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree. Docs know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children. To declare that it bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head. Or that pollen and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have shellfish, anitbiotics, strawberries or you name it. Everyone is different and everyone's body can and can not tolerate different things. As a

matter of fact, it has crossed my mind more than once that the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person born with autism. does that make sense????

From: Kulp <thorenstd124@ yahoo.com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil,to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period. Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic chemicals,and/ or as with my sister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection.

http://aje.oxfordjo urnals.org/ cgi/content/ full/161/ 10/916

From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chemyahoo (DOT) com> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! !

If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIV patients????

J

From: T Lynn <t.lynn28@rocketmail .com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

, I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures.

I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great, just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism.. That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say? So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it.

From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chemyahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PMSubject: New reason for Autism

Posted - 05/06/2009 : 10:51:23

There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus.

HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autismThere is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism.The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic

inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below).Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected childrenImpairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc).Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some

degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load.Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the

susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis)Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism:Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrientsDysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and caseinLactose intoleranceSugar intoleranceInability to digest complex carbohydratesInability to absorb fats and proteinsGastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload.Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.Others:Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive childrenImpaired sensory – auditory and visual

processingSubclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)Pathological mechanisms in HIV infectionHIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism)Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected

antiretroviral effects:• chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals• Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents.• HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione• Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load.• Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect

in HIV positive.• Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.

[Guest guest]

They do know that 5% of autistic people is genetic (Fragile X). But viruses can change, mutate our genes. HIV can cause cancer. If a child is born with a retro-virus handed down from the mother, but the virus isn't activated, then a shot or even a circumcision can trigger the virus. The 2 main triggers for XMRV are cortisal (a stress hormone and vaccines). These turn the virus on, and it starts replicating it's self. HIV uses metals, it ruins the methalation cycle where metals can't be removed from the body.

J

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:12:40 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids. Ask any mom who witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and black out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree. Docs know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children. To declare that it bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head. Or that pollen and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have shellfish, anitbiotics, strawberries or you name it. Everyone is different and everyone's body can and can not tolerate different things. As a

matter of fact, it has crossed my mind more than once that the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person born with autism. does that make sense????

From: Kulp <thorenstd124@ yahoo.com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil,to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period. Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic chemicals,and/ or as with my sister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection.

http://aje.oxfordjo urnals.org/ cgi/content/ full/161/ 10/916

From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chemyahoo (DOT) com> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! !

If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIV patients????

J

From: T Lynn <t.lynn28@rocketmail .com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

, I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures.

I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great, just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism.. That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say? So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it.

From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chemyahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PMSubject: New reason for Autism

Posted - 05/06/2009 : 10:51:23

There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus.

HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autismThere is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism.The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic

inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below).Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected childrenImpairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc).Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some

degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load.Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the

susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis)Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism:Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrientsDysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and caseinLactose intoleranceSugar intoleranceInability to digest complex carbohydratesInability to absorb fats and proteinsGastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload.Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.Others:Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive childrenImpaired sensory – auditory and visual

processingSubclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)Pathological mechanisms in HIV infectionHIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism)HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism)HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism)HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism)Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected

antiretroviral effects:• chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals• Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents.• HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione• Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load.• Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect

in HIV positive.• Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all the info Jen. I am one of those moms that had my son go into a seizure right in the doctors office after the MMR. So I know vaccines damaged my son. But I know there is some sort of virus in our house affecting us all. My daughter is sick as much as she is well, we get a lot of sore throats, sinus infections, glue ear, we all can no longer tolerate gluten or milk. (and I prided myself in having a stomach of steel) Now I get stomach aches all the time when I eat dairy or gluten. I get weird pressure or like burning feeling in my head, not a head ache. Even my dog has upper respiratory issues and can't digest certain dog foods. He also has phobias and won't go outside without an escort. (He is 180 lb Mastiff). It just

feels like everything in our house is always sick. My kids don't go to day care or school so I don't know how they are sick so much. both have been high in metals, (my son we chelated, so he is ok now), but I am at a crossroads as to what to do next. I think the viral route might be our answer. Thanks for bringing it up.To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 9:10:45 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

They do know that 5% of autistic people is genetic (Fragile X). But viruses can change, mutate our genes. HIV can cause cancer. If a child is born with a retro-virus handed down from the mother, but the virus isn't activated, then a shot or even a circumcision can trigger the virus. The 2 main triggers for XMRV are cortisal (a stress hormone and vaccines). These turn the virus on, and it starts replicating it's self. HIV uses metals, it ruins the methalation cycle where metals can't be removed from the body.

J

____________ _________ _________ __

From: T Lynn To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:12:40 PM

Subject: Re: New reason for Autism

Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids. Ask any mom who witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and black out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree. Docs know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children. To declare that it bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head. Or that pollen and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have shellfish, anitbiotics, strawberries or you name it. Everyone is different and everyone's body can and can not tolerate different things. As a

matter of fact, it has crossed my mind more than

once that the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person born with autism. does that make sense????

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Kulp To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PM

Subject: Re: New reason for Autism

There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil, to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period. Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic chemicals,and/ or as with my sister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection.

http://aje.oxfordjo urnals.org/ cgi/content/ full/161/ 10/916

____________ _________ _________ __

From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PM

Subject: Re: New reason for Autism

I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! ! If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIV patients????

J

____________ _________ _________ __

From: T Lynn To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PM

Subject: Re: New reason for Autism

, I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures.

I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great, just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism.. That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say? So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it.

____________ _________ _________ __

From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PM

Subject: New reason for Autism

Posted - 05/06/ 2009 : 10:51:23 ____________ _________ _________ __

There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus.

HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autism

There is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism.

The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below).

Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected children

Impairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc).

Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load.

Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis)

Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism:

Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrients

Dysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)

Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and casein

Lactose intolerance

Sugar intolerance

Inability to digest complex carbohydrates

Inability to absorb fats and proteins

Gastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload.

Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.

Others:

Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive children

Impaired sensory – auditory and visual processing

Subclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)

Pathological mechanisms in HIV infection

HIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism)

HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism)

HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism)

HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism)

HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism)

HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism)

HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism)

Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected antiretroviral effects:

• chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals

• Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents.

• HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione

• Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load.

• Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect in HIV positive.

• Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all the info Jen. I am one of those moms that had my son go into a seizure right in the doctors office after the MMR. So I know vaccines damaged my son. But I know there is some sort of virus in our house affecting us all. My daughter is sick as much as she is well, we get a lot of sore throats, sinus infections, glue ear, we all can no longer tolerate gluten or milk. (and I prided myself in having a stomach of steel) Now I get stomach aches all the time when I eat dairy or gluten. I get weird pressure or like burning feeling in my head, not a head ache. Even my dog has upper respiratory issues and can't digest certain dog foods. He also has phobias and won't go outside without an escort. (He is 180 lb Mastiff). It just

feels like everything in our house is always sick. My kids don't go to day care or school so I don't know how they are sick so much. both have been high in metals, (my son we chelated, so he is ok now), but I am at a crossroads as to what to do next. I think the viral route might be our answer. Thanks for bringing it up.To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 9:10:45 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

They do know that 5% of autistic people is genetic (Fragile X). But viruses can change, mutate our genes. HIV can cause cancer. If a child is born with a retro-virus handed down from the mother, but the virus isn't activated, then a shot or even a circumcision can trigger the virus. The 2 main triggers for XMRV are cortisal (a stress hormone and vaccines). These turn the virus on, and it starts replicating it's self. HIV uses metals, it ruins the methalation cycle where metals can't be removed from the body.

J

____________ _________ _________ __

From: T Lynn To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:12:40 PM

Subject: Re: New reason for Autism

Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids. Ask any mom who witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and black out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree. Docs know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children. To declare that it bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head. Or that pollen and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have shellfish, anitbiotics, strawberries or you name it. Everyone is different and everyone's body can and can not tolerate different things. As a

matter of fact, it has crossed my mind more than

once that the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person born with autism. does that make sense????

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Kulp To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PM

Subject: Re: New reason for Autism

There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil, to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period. Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic chemicals,and/ or as with my sister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection.

http://aje.oxfordjo urnals.org/ cgi/content/ full/161/ 10/916

____________ _________ _________ __

From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PM

Subject: Re: New reason for Autism

I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! ! If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIV patients????

J

____________ _________ _________ __

From: T Lynn To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PM

Subject: Re: New reason for Autism

, I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures.

I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great, just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism.. That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say? So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it.

____________ _________ _________ __

From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PM

Subject: New reason for Autism

Posted - 05/06/ 2009 : 10:51:23 ____________ _________ _________ __

There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus.

HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autism

There is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism.

The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below).

Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected children

Impairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc).

Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load.

Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis)

Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism:

Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrients

Dysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)

Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and casein

Lactose intolerance

Sugar intolerance

Inability to digest complex carbohydrates

Inability to absorb fats and proteins

Gastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload.

Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.

Others:

Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive children

Impaired sensory – auditory and visual processing

Subclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)

Pathological mechanisms in HIV infection

HIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism)

HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism)

HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism)

HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism)

HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism)

HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism)

HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism)

Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected antiretroviral effects:

• chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals

• Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents.

• HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione

• Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load.

• Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect in HIV positive.

• Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all the info Jen. I am one of those moms that had my son go into a seizure right in the doctors office after the MMR. So I know vaccines damaged my son. But I know there is some sort of virus in our house affecting us all. My daughter is sick as much as she is well, we get a lot of sore throats, sinus infections, glue ear, we all can no longer tolerate gluten or milk. (and I prided myself in having a stomach of steel) Now I get stomach aches all the time when I eat dairy or gluten. I get weird pressure or like burning feeling in my head, not a head ache. Even my dog has upper respiratory issues and can't digest certain dog foods. He also has phobias and won't go outside without an escort. (He is 180 lb Mastiff). It just

feels like everything in our house is always sick. My kids don't go to day care or school so I don't know how they are sick so much. both have been high in metals, (my son we chelated, so he is ok now), but I am at a crossroads as to what to do next. I think the viral route might be our answer. Thanks for bringing it up.To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 9:10:45 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

They do know that 5% of autistic people is genetic (Fragile X). But viruses can change, mutate our genes. HIV can cause cancer. If a child is born with a retro-virus handed down from the mother, but the virus isn't activated, then a shot or even a circumcision can trigger the virus. The 2 main triggers for XMRV are cortisal (a stress hormone and vaccines). These turn the virus on, and it starts replicating it's self. HIV uses metals, it ruins the methalation cycle where metals can't be removed from the body.

J

____________ _________ _________ __

From: T Lynn To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:12:40 PM

Subject: Re: New reason for Autism

Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids. Ask any mom who witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and black out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree. Docs know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children. To declare that it bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head. Or that pollen and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have shellfish, anitbiotics, strawberries or you name it. Everyone is different and everyone's body can and can not tolerate different things. As a

matter of fact, it has crossed my mind more than

once that the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person born with autism. does that make sense????

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Kulp To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PM

Subject: Re: New reason for Autism

There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil, to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period. Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic chemicals,and/ or as with my sister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection.

http://aje.oxfordjo urnals.org/ cgi/content/ full/161/ 10/916

____________ _________ _________ __

From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PM

Subject: Re: New reason for Autism

I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! ! If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIV patients????

J

____________ _________ _________ __

From: T Lynn To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PM

Subject: Re: New reason for Autism

, I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures.

I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great, just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism.. That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say? So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it.

____________ _________ _________ __

From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PM

Subject: New reason for Autism

Posted - 05/06/ 2009 : 10:51:23 ____________ _________ _________ __

There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus.

HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autism

There is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism.

The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below).

Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected children

Impairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc).

Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load.

Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis)

Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism:

Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrients

Dysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)

Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and casein

Lactose intolerance

Sugar intolerance

Inability to digest complex carbohydrates

Inability to absorb fats and proteins

Gastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload.

Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.

Others:

Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive children

Impaired sensory – auditory and visual processing

Subclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)

Pathological mechanisms in HIV infection

HIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism)

HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism)

HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism)

HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism)

HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism)

HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism)

HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism)

Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected antiretroviral effects:

• chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals

• Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents.

• HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione

• Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load.

• Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect in HIV positive.

• Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.

[Guest guest]

Have you or anyone in your family ever been tested for Lyme disease? Just a thought!

Thanks for all the info Jen. I am one of those moms that had my son go into a seizure right in the doctors office after the MMR. So I know vaccines damaged my son. But I know there is some sort of virus in our house affecting us all. My daughter is sick as much as she is well, we get a lot of sore throats, sinus infections, glue ear, we all can no longer tolerate gluten or milk. (and I prided myself in having a stomach of steel) Now I get stomach aches all the time when I eat dairy or gluten. I get weird pressure or like burning feeling in my head, not a head ache. Even my dog has upper respiratory issues and can't digest certain dog foods. He also has phobias and won't go outside without an escort. (He is 180 lb Mastiff). It just

feels like everything in our house is always sick. My kids don't go to day care or school so I don't know how they are sick so much. both have been high in metals, (my son we chelated, so he is ok now), but I am at a crossroads as to what to do next. I think the viral route might be our answer. Thanks for bringing it up.From: jennifer smiglewski <jjs7a7chem>To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 9:10:45 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

They do know that 5% of autistic people is genetic (Fragile X). But viruses can change, mutate our genes. HIV can cause cancer. If a child is born with a retro-virus handed down from the mother, but the virus isn't activated, then a shot or even a circumcision can trigger the virus. The 2 main triggers for XMRV are cortisal (a stress hormone and vaccines). These turn the virus on, and it starts replicating it's self. HIV uses metals, it ruins the methalation cycle where metals can't be removed from the body.

J

____________ _________ _________ __

From: T Lynn To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:12:40 PM

Subject: Re: New reason for Autism

Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids. Ask any mom who witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and black out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree. Docs know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children. To declare that it bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head. Or that pollen and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have shellfish, anitbiotics, strawberries or you name it. Everyone is different and everyone's body can and can not tolerate different things. As a

matter of fact, it has crossed my mind more than

once that the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person born with autism. does that make sense????

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Kulp To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PM

Subject: Re: New reason for Autism

There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil, to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period. Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic chemicals,and/ or as with my sister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection.

http://aje.oxfordjo urnals.org/ cgi/content/ full/161/ 10/916

____________ _________ _________ __

From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PM

Subject: Re: New reason for Autism

I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! ! If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIV patients????

J

____________ _________ _________ __

From: T Lynn To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PM

Subject: Re: New reason for Autism

, I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures.

I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great, just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism.. That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say? So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it.

____________ _________ _________ __

From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PM

Subject: New reason for Autism

Posted - 05/06/ 2009 : 10:51:23 ____________ _________ _________ __

There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus.

HIV infection in children - neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autism

There is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism.

The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below).

Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected children

Impairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc).

Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is linked to increased HIV viral load.

Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis and arthritis)

Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism:

Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrients

Dysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)

Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and casein

Lactose intolerance

Sugar intolerance

Inability to digest complex carbohydrates

Inability to absorb fats and proteins

Gastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload.

Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.

Others:

Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive children

Impaired sensory – auditory and visual processing

Subclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)

Pathological mechanisms in HIV infection

HIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism)

HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism)

HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism)

HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism)

HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism)

HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism)

HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism)

Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected antiretroviral effects:

• chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals

• Tetracycline antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents.

• HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione

• Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load.

• Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect in HIV positive.

• Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.

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Once again a trigger is not a cause.You need to do a lot of research to get to the root of the cause,and then connect the dots,and take your research to your doctor,who then does the right tests.It now looks very likely I was the victim of an infection while in the womb.There are several possible ones my mother had.I have found articles today about mutations of genes that are linked to congenital infections,which are linked to autism.They used to think it was just rubella,and Lyme,but now they know that most severe infections,active or latent,a mother has while carrying her baby can cause autism.This is both a new and developing story,and one documented by mainstream science.I know autism can have as many different causes as there are ways the disease can manifest,but if you do enough research,and have enough tests,you eventually find the cause,and usually you will find vaccines,like an acute infection can be a trigger and not a

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To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 10:49:32 PMSubject: Re: New reason for Autism

Thanks for all the info Jen. I am one of those moms that had my son go into a seizure right in the doctors office after the MMR. So I know vaccines damaged my son. But I know there is some sort of virus in our house affecting us all. My daughter is sick as much as she is well, we get a lot of sore throats, sinus infections, glue ear, we all can no longer tolerate gluten or milk. (and I prided myself in having a stomach of steel) Now I get stomach aches all the time when I eat dairy or gluten. I get weird pressure or like burning feeling in my head, not a head ache. Even my dog has upper respiratory issues and can't digest certain dog foods. He also has phobias and won't go outside without an escort. (He is 180 lb Mastiff). It just feels like everything in our house is always sick. My kids don't go to day care or school so I don't know how they are sick so much. both have been high in metals, (my son we chelated, so he is ok now), but I am at a

crossroads as to what to do next. I think the viral route might be our answer. Thanks for bringing it up. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 9:10:45 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism They do know that 5% of autistic people is genetic (Fragile X). But viruses can change, mutate our genes. HIV can cause cancer. If a child is born with a retro-virus handed down from the mother, but the virus isn't activated, then a shot or even a circumcision can trigger the virus. The 2 main triggers for XMRV are cortisal (a stress hormone and vaccines). These turn the virus on, and it starts replicating it's self. HIV uses metals, it ruins the methalation cycle where metals can't be removed from the body. J ____________ _________ _________ __ From: T Lynn To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:12:40 PM Subject: Re: New reason for

Autism Agreed - to an extent but there is without a doubt in my mind, something about vaccines that is causing the trigger in some of our kids. Ask any mom who witnessed a decline in her child literally over night after vaccination or any mother, for that matter, who had a child turn blue, go limp in her arms and black out immediately following vaccination and I'm sure they'll agree. Docs know it, researchers know it, pharmaceuticals know it, parents know it, yet the almighty dollar prevails at the expense of our children. To declare that it bears no neg affects on anyone would be no different than saying ANYone can eat peanut butter and an allergy to it is just in a person's head. Or that pollen and animal allergies are imagined. or that anyone can have shellfish, anitbiotics, strawberries or you name it. Everyone is different and everyone's body can and can not tolerate different things. As a matter of fact, it has crossed my mind more than once that

the conditon caused by all these environmental stressors may not literally be autism but rather produce symptoms very similar to that of a person born with autism. does that make sense???? ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Kulp To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:32 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism There is no proof of that.I will never be able to make the giant leap from vaccine related illness or death,like Gardasil, to vaccines "causing" autism. Autism requires damage before birth,in the womb.Period. Something that acts as a triggering event,which vaccines could well do,is not the same as a cause.There has to be something happening before birth,either the mother needs to be exposed to some kind of toxic chemicals,and/ or as with my sister and I,an illness in the mother like diabetes or infection. http://aje.oxfordjo urnals.org/ cgi/content/

full/161/ 10/916 ____________ _________ _________ __ From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:43:38 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism I agree with you. Who knows the virus could have come from the vaccines themselves. They do grow the viruses in human tissues. I bet we could make it difficult on the pharma companies it we tested a vaccine positive for XMRV. 60% of autistic childern tested positive for XMRV, could you imagine what a finding like that would do to the vaccine schedule?!!! ! If it is like HIV, where do HIV patients go to get treatments? They have to fight yeast and metals, and other viruses? What kind of doctors work with HIV patients???? J ____________ _________ _________ __ From: T Lynn To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 10:34:05 PM Subject: Re: New reason for Autism , I've read a few articles on it. Sounds promising -for ALOT

of people, not just our kids. I pray they're onto something though I had to laugh reading the write-ups as all of a sudden more than a few people in the med industry suddenly find it ok to use "vaccination" and "autism" in the same breath. Figures. I won't get my hopes up. These SOB's will probably come up with a vaccine for it before they ever find a cure. Great, just what we need. They will find a way to make $ fist over foot by using using detection (constant flow of new customers) and disease management (lifetime paatients and rx customers). Just like diabetes, cancer, and anything else, they will not "find" a cure as it is not profitable. I think the new # now is 1 in 87 children dx'd with autism.. That's an awful lot of customers, wouldn't you say? So we better plan on this board being around for a looooooooooong time because they will never make it known to the general public what we know here. The best I would hope for is to wait for their

findings and use it to tweak our own treatments. I hope and pray I am wrong, but I doubt it. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: jennifer smiglewski To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:35 PM Subject: New reason for Autism Posted - 05/06/ 2009 : 10:51:23 ____________ _________ _________ __ There is a newly discovered retrovirus that mimics symptoms of HIV, please read the symptoms and problems is HIV below. The new retrovirus is XMRV. I thought this might bring a little insight and hope. This virus is much simplier than HIV and they have already found some drugs that work on XMRV which are currently used on HIV, so those drugs only have to go through human trials before hitting the market for XMRV. The area of research has been focused on cronic fatigue, but they have done testing on autistic childern and have found to a large percentage test positive for this retrovirus. HIV infection in children -

neurodevelopmental (autistic) outcomes and clinical pathologies - and their correlations to 'common' autism There is a striking correlation between neurodevelopmental symptoms often found in children infected with HIV virus and those children diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of unknown aetiology). Furthermore, the underlying clinical pathologies found in HIV-positive children are in many ways identical to biomedical pathologies found in children diagnosed with ‘common’ autism. The mechanisms of HIV-injury on host cellular systems have been identified in recent years and these pathologies match those found in ‘common’ autism, such as microglial activation, cellular calcium overload, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, vasoconstriction, glutathione depletion, chronic inflammation of gastrointestinal and central and peripheral nervous systems etc (see list below). Many treatment agents used in treating autism, weather with studied

and proven beneficial effects or anecdotal reports of reducing autistic symptoms in some affected individuals, have antiretroviral mode of action and have been shown to inhibit the viral activity and/or reduce HIV viral load. Neurodevelopmental findings in HIV infected children Impairments in language, especially expressive language, behavioural symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking etc). Severity of autistic symptoms in HIV positive children is correlated to levels of the viral load/replication, as well as CD4+ levels. Autistic symptoms – deficits in language, behaviour and social skills – in HIV infected children often recover upon administration of single or combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some degree. Sometimes recovery is complete, with total remission of autistic symptoms. HIV infected children sometimes develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2 years of age. This is

linked to increased HIV viral load. Latent retrovirus/HIV can be reactivated by vaccinations. In addition to this, live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV infected individuals with low CD4+ counts – inability to mount appropriate immune responses results in vaccine virus persistence. For example polio vaccine strain has been found in gastrointestinal tract of vaccinated individuals. No antibody production to Dtp or measles live virus vaccine. These findings have lead to proposals that both immunotherapy and vaccination of HIV-infected individuals should be accompanied by administration of an antiviral drug(s). In addition, it is suspected that exposure to antigenic stimulation through vaccinations may enhance the susceptibility of uninfected subjects to HIV-1 (reactivation by endogenous retroviruses by external stressors, including vaccinations, has been proposed as causal in other autoimmune diseases, such as multiple

sclerosis and arthritis) Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children match those found in ‘common’ autism: Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrients Dysregulated production of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function) Abnormal immune reactions to gliadin and casein Lactose intolerance Sugar intolerance Inability to digest complex carbohydrates Inability to absorb fats and proteins Gastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial overload. Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans. Others: Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive children Impaired sensory – auditory and visual processing Subclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children) Pathological mechanisms in HIV infection HIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction (also found in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion (found in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes microglial

activation and inflammation (also found in ‘common’ autism) HIV combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood brain barrier (bbb breakdown suspected in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes glutamate exitotoxicity (dyregulated GABA/glutamate mechanisms observed in ‘common’ autism) HIV causes vasoconstriction - tightening of blood vessels that supply oxygen to brain (found in ‘common’ autism) HIV inhibits methylation (abnormal methylation found in ‘common’ autism) Many modalities currently used for treating autism have proven or suspected antiretroviral effects: • chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA. Retroviruses in general are desintegrated by chelation agents in vitro. Several chelators have been patented as antiretroviral agents. Several agents with chelating properties, such as alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and NAC have been shown to reduce viral load in HIV positive individuals • Tetracycline

antibiotics (one currently on trial for autism) inhibit HIV in vitro through same mechanism as chelation agents. • HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione • Acyclovir/valacyclo vir (antiviral agent with anti-herpevirus activity, with anecdotal reports of amelioration of autistic symptoms) has been shown to reduce HIV viral load in HIV positive individuals. The mechanisms are not clear. • Hyperbaric oxygen has been shown to inhibit HIV and reduce viral load. • Pancreative enzymes trial showed beneficial effect in HIV positive. • Methylation agents such as cobalamins and SAMe directly inhibit HIV activity and maintain its latency.