Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???

[Guest guest]

Thank you for all your help, I wil look into LDN also. Thanks, I have been

sitting on the script for the Zithromax for a few months as was always too

nervous to give them but your positive responses has given me the courage needed

to try. Just one final thing, would you know if I should still give the

Fluconazole and Valtrex during the Zithromax treatment?

thanks again!

---- Christel King wrote:

> not until the next flare! OR not at all if we keep up with LDN with out

missing a night

>

> Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps

about???

>

>

>

> Liz,

> Thanks for reminding me about minerals. I need to order some more. The

last ones I bought had copper, so I refuse to give to him. Are your boys both

recovered?? Antibiotics are a must for us right now. Zithromax is notorious for

not passing through the gut. He becomes normal when taking them. Strep

infections can cause damage to the basal ganglia of the brain, so leaving severe

cases untreated can be very dangerous. This can lead to more psychiatric

problems in the future. But, I do feel it is very important to chelate as well.

I just can't sit back and let my son suffer because of the concept behind all

his problems. We have also chelated as well...6 mos of DMSA and almost 6 months

of DMPS + ALA. He is acaemically on track, has gained huge social skills, tons

of language (speech therapist was looking at transitioning him out), no

behavioral problems at all, but he still has some lingering issues that need to

be addressed. I do plan to move to ALA only chelation. I had it in my mind that

I had wanted to do 6 mos of DMSA then DMPS and then move onto something milder.

I am happy to know that your kids issues completely went away with ALA. I am

excited to start it. By the way, we are not doing antibiotics on a daily

basis..just as needed. There is a maintenance dose of once per week which I plan

to implement. My son's tic behavior came on around 3 yrs. of age...way before

chelation. I am hoping that treating his bacteria and underlying chelation will

do the trick!

>

>

> > >

> > > This is the way many with Tourette's Syndrome (TS) describe their

tics. The uncontrollable aspect. The build up and the inevitable release. But

most have experienced so much teasing from their peers that they don't think

that it's funny. The TS community is investigating PANDAS as a reason for their

children's TS and using antibiotics to address it.

> > >

> > > http://www.tourettesyndrome.net/pandas_overview.htm

> > >

> > > Also, my son will all of a sudden make a loud noise. He thinks

it's funny, but it's almost like he " has " to get it out. He has these built up

vocal noises that he has to release. They aren't the " nnnnn " or " eeeee " type

things that used to be associated with yeast. Do these sound like vocal tics?

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for all your help, I wil look into LDN also. Thanks, I have been

sitting on the script for the Zithromax for a few months as was always too

nervous to give them but your positive responses has given me the courage needed

to try. Just one final thing, would you know if I should still give the

Fluconazole and Valtrex during the Zithromax treatment?

thanks again!

---- Christel King wrote:

> not until the next flare! OR not at all if we keep up with LDN with out

missing a night

>

> Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps

about???

>

>

>

> Liz,

> Thanks for reminding me about minerals. I need to order some more. The

last ones I bought had copper, so I refuse to give to him. Are your boys both

recovered?? Antibiotics are a must for us right now. Zithromax is notorious for

not passing through the gut. He becomes normal when taking them. Strep

infections can cause damage to the basal ganglia of the brain, so leaving severe

cases untreated can be very dangerous. This can lead to more psychiatric

problems in the future. But, I do feel it is very important to chelate as well.

I just can't sit back and let my son suffer because of the concept behind all

his problems. We have also chelated as well...6 mos of DMSA and almost 6 months

of DMPS + ALA. He is acaemically on track, has gained huge social skills, tons

of language (speech therapist was looking at transitioning him out), no

behavioral problems at all, but he still has some lingering issues that need to

be addressed. I do plan to move to ALA only chelation. I had it in my mind that

I had wanted to do 6 mos of DMSA then DMPS and then move onto something milder.

I am happy to know that your kids issues completely went away with ALA. I am

excited to start it. By the way, we are not doing antibiotics on a daily

basis..just as needed. There is a maintenance dose of once per week which I plan

to implement. My son's tic behavior came on around 3 yrs. of age...way before

chelation. I am hoping that treating his bacteria and underlying chelation will

do the trick!

>

>

> > >

> > > This is the way many with Tourette's Syndrome (TS) describe their

tics. The uncontrollable aspect. The build up and the inevitable release. But

most have experienced so much teasing from their peers that they don't think

that it's funny. The TS community is investigating PANDAS as a reason for their

children's TS and using antibiotics to address it.

> > >

> > > http://www.tourettesyndrome.net/pandas_overview.htm

> > >

> > > Also, my son will all of a sudden make a loud noise. He thinks

it's funny, but it's almost like he " has " to get it out. He has these built up

vocal noises that he has to release. They aren't the " nnnnn " or " eeeee " type

things that used to be associated with yeast. Do these sound like vocal tics?

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for all your help, I wil look into LDN also. Thanks, I have been

sitting on the script for the Zithromax for a few months as was always too

nervous to give them but your positive responses has given me the courage needed

to try. Just one final thing, would you know if I should still give the

Fluconazole and Valtrex during the Zithromax treatment?

thanks again!

---- Christel King wrote:

> not until the next flare! OR not at all if we keep up with LDN with out

missing a night

>

> Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps

about???

>

>

>

> Liz,

> Thanks for reminding me about minerals. I need to order some more. The

last ones I bought had copper, so I refuse to give to him. Are your boys both

recovered?? Antibiotics are a must for us right now. Zithromax is notorious for

not passing through the gut. He becomes normal when taking them. Strep

infections can cause damage to the basal ganglia of the brain, so leaving severe

cases untreated can be very dangerous. This can lead to more psychiatric

problems in the future. But, I do feel it is very important to chelate as well.

I just can't sit back and let my son suffer because of the concept behind all

his problems. We have also chelated as well...6 mos of DMSA and almost 6 months

of DMPS + ALA. He is acaemically on track, has gained huge social skills, tons

of language (speech therapist was looking at transitioning him out), no

behavioral problems at all, but he still has some lingering issues that need to

be addressed. I do plan to move to ALA only chelation. I had it in my mind that

I had wanted to do 6 mos of DMSA then DMPS and then move onto something milder.

I am happy to know that your kids issues completely went away with ALA. I am

excited to start it. By the way, we are not doing antibiotics on a daily

basis..just as needed. There is a maintenance dose of once per week which I plan

to implement. My son's tic behavior came on around 3 yrs. of age...way before

chelation. I am hoping that treating his bacteria and underlying chelation will

do the trick!

>

>

> > >

> > > This is the way many with Tourette's Syndrome (TS) describe their

tics. The uncontrollable aspect. The build up and the inevitable release. But

most have experienced so much teasing from their peers that they don't think

that it's funny. The TS community is investigating PANDAS as a reason for their

children's TS and using antibiotics to address it.

> > >

> > > http://www.tourettesyndrome.net/pandas_overview.htm

> > >

> > > Also, my son will all of a sudden make a loud noise. He thinks

it's funny, but it's almost like he " has " to get it out. He has these built up

vocal noises that he has to release. They aren't the " nnnnn " or " eeeee " type

things that used to be associated with yeast. Do these sound like vocal tics?

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

that is highly debatable, all our kids are different, with different medical issues.....

Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???

That really doesn't matter. It is extremely likely that all our kids have one common cause for their autism although the degree of severity in each case varies. > >> > This is the way many with Tourette's Syndrome (TS) describe their tics. The uncontrollable aspect. The build up and the inevitable release. But most have experienced so much teasing from their peers that they don't think that it's funny. The TS community is investigating PANDAS as a reason for their children's TS and using antibiotics to address it.> > > > http://www.tourettesyndrome.net/pandas_overview.htm> > > > Also, my son will all of a sudden make a loud noise. He thinks it's funny, but it's almost like he "has" to get it out. He has these built up vocal noises that he has to release. They aren't the "nnnnn" or "eeeee" type things that used to be associated with yeast. Do these sound like vocal tics?> >>

[Guest guest]

that is highly debatable, all our kids are different, with different medical issues.....

Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???

That really doesn't matter. It is extremely likely that all our kids have one common cause for their autism although the degree of severity in each case varies. > >> > This is the way many with Tourette's Syndrome (TS) describe their tics. The uncontrollable aspect. The build up and the inevitable release. But most have experienced so much teasing from their peers that they don't think that it's funny. The TS community is investigating PANDAS as a reason for their children's TS and using antibiotics to address it.> > > > http://www.tourettesyndrome.net/pandas_overview.htm> > > > Also, my son will all of a sudden make a loud noise. He thinks it's funny, but it's almost like he "has" to get it out. He has these built up vocal noises that he has to release. They aren't the "nnnnn" or "eeeee" type things that used to be associated with yeast. Do these sound like vocal tics?> >>

[Guest guest]

Not debating that, but pointing out how the epidemic of autism couldn't possibly

have arisen from all kinds of " different medical issues " .

That is what the media would have us believe, running around in circles going

" what is the cause of autism...aaahhhh!! all the kids are different it's so hard

to figure out!! " We already found out the cause and the media continues to lie

and deceive us by " searching for causes " and saying there are all kinds of

causes - it keeps us from uniting and demanding treatment, compensation and

accountability from the medical community for what they caused!! Even worse,

what they continue to cause.

I'm even starting to question whether Age of Autism is on our side. They are

just as guilty as the other mainstream media sources of having us all run in

circles.

> > >

> > > This is the way many with Tourette's Syndrome (TS) describe their tics.

The uncontrollable aspect. The build up and the inevitable release. But most

have experienced so much teasing from their peers that they don't think that

it's funny. The TS community is investigating PANDAS as a reason for their

children's TS and using antibiotics to address it.

> > >

> > > http://www.tourettesyndrome.net/pandas_overview.htm

> > >

> > > Also, my son will all of a sudden make a loud noise. He thinks it's

funny, but it's almost like he " has " to get it out. He has these built up vocal

noises that he has to release. They aren't the " nnnnn " or " eeeee " type things

that used to be associated with yeast. Do these sound like vocal tics?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Not debating that, but pointing out how the epidemic of autism couldn't possibly

have arisen from all kinds of " different medical issues " .

That is what the media would have us believe, running around in circles going

" what is the cause of autism...aaahhhh!! all the kids are different it's so hard

to figure out!! " We already found out the cause and the media continues to lie

and deceive us by " searching for causes " and saying there are all kinds of

causes - it keeps us from uniting and demanding treatment, compensation and

accountability from the medical community for what they caused!! Even worse,

what they continue to cause.

I'm even starting to question whether Age of Autism is on our side. They are

just as guilty as the other mainstream media sources of having us all run in

circles.

> > >

> > > This is the way many with Tourette's Syndrome (TS) describe their tics.

The uncontrollable aspect. The build up and the inevitable release. But most

have experienced so much teasing from their peers that they don't think that

it's funny. The TS community is investigating PANDAS as a reason for their

children's TS and using antibiotics to address it.

> > >

> > > http://www.tourettesyndrome.net/pandas_overview.htm

> > >

> > > Also, my son will all of a sudden make a loud noise. He thinks it's

funny, but it's almost like he " has " to get it out. He has these built up vocal

noises that he has to release. They aren't the " nnnnn " or " eeeee " type things

that used to be associated with yeast. Do these sound like vocal tics?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Not debating that, but pointing out how the epidemic of autism couldn't possibly

have arisen from all kinds of " different medical issues " .

That is what the media would have us believe, running around in circles going

" what is the cause of autism...aaahhhh!! all the kids are different it's so hard

to figure out!! " We already found out the cause and the media continues to lie

and deceive us by " searching for causes " and saying there are all kinds of

causes - it keeps us from uniting and demanding treatment, compensation and

accountability from the medical community for what they caused!! Even worse,

what they continue to cause.

I'm even starting to question whether Age of Autism is on our side. They are

just as guilty as the other mainstream media sources of having us all run in

circles.

> > >

> > > This is the way many with Tourette's Syndrome (TS) describe their tics.

The uncontrollable aspect. The build up and the inevitable release. But most

have experienced so much teasing from their peers that they don't think that

it's funny. The TS community is investigating PANDAS as a reason for their

children's TS and using antibiotics to address it.

> > >

> > > http://www.tourettesyndrome.net/pandas_overview.htm

> > >

> > > Also, my son will all of a sudden make a loud noise. He thinks it's

funny, but it's almost like he " has " to get it out. He has these built up vocal

noises that he has to release. They aren't the " nnnnn " or " eeeee " type things

that used to be associated with yeast. Do these sound like vocal tics?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

we will continue to disagree as again I know several families of kids with out metal issues who kids still have autism.....so it doesn't hold for all kids

and again know others WITH metals issues with out autism

for it to be a true statement (your therory) it would have to hold across the board and it doesn't.....that is the problem and why cheltion hasn't cured all kids who have tried it, notice it doesn't have a `100 % success rate, just like anything with all our kids

Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???

Not debating that, but pointing out how the epidemic of autism couldn't possibly have arisen from all kinds of "different medical issues". That is what the media would have us believe, running around in circles going "what is the cause of autism...aaahhhh!! all the kids are different it's so hard to figure out!!" We already found out the cause and the media continues to lie and deceive us by "searching for causes" and saying there are all kinds of causes - it keeps us from uniting and demanding treatment, compensation and accountability from the medical community for what they caused!! Even worse, what they continue to cause. I'm even starting to question whether Age of Autism is on our side. They are just as guilty as the other mainstream media sources of having us all run in circles.> > >> > > This is the way many with Tourette's Syndrome (TS) describe their tics. The uncontrollable aspect. The build up and the inevitable release. But most have experienced so much teasing from their peers that they don't think that it's funny. The TS community is investigating PANDAS as a reason for their children's TS and using antibiotics to address it.> > > > > > http://www.tourettesyndrome.net/pandas_overview.htm> > > > > > Also, my son will all of a sudden make a loud noise. He thinks it's funny, but it's almost like he "has" to get it out. He has these built up vocal noises that he has to release. They aren't the "nnnnn" or "eeeee" type things that used to be associated with yeast. Do these sound like vocal tics?> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

we will continue to disagree as again I know several families of kids with out metal issues who kids still have autism.....so it doesn't hold for all kids

and again know others WITH metals issues with out autism

for it to be a true statement (your therory) it would have to hold across the board and it doesn't.....that is the problem and why cheltion hasn't cured all kids who have tried it, notice it doesn't have a `100 % success rate, just like anything with all our kids

Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???

Not debating that, but pointing out how the epidemic of autism couldn't possibly have arisen from all kinds of "different medical issues". That is what the media would have us believe, running around in circles going "what is the cause of autism...aaahhhh!! all the kids are different it's so hard to figure out!!" We already found out the cause and the media continues to lie and deceive us by "searching for causes" and saying there are all kinds of causes - it keeps us from uniting and demanding treatment, compensation and accountability from the medical community for what they caused!! Even worse, what they continue to cause. I'm even starting to question whether Age of Autism is on our side. They are just as guilty as the other mainstream media sources of having us all run in circles.> > >> > > This is the way many with Tourette's Syndrome (TS) describe their tics. The uncontrollable aspect. The build up and the inevitable release. But most have experienced so much teasing from their peers that they don't think that it's funny. The TS community is investigating PANDAS as a reason for their children's TS and using antibiotics to address it.> > > > > > http://www.tourettesyndrome.net/pandas_overview.htm> > > > > > Also, my son will all of a sudden make a loud noise. He thinks it's funny, but it's almost like he "has" to get it out. He has these built up vocal noises that he has to release. They aren't the "nnnnn" or "eeeee" type things that used to be associated with yeast. Do these sound like vocal tics?> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

we will continue to disagree as again I know several families of kids with out metal issues who kids still have autism.....so it doesn't hold for all kids

and again know others WITH metals issues with out autism

for it to be a true statement (your therory) it would have to hold across the board and it doesn't.....that is the problem and why cheltion hasn't cured all kids who have tried it, notice it doesn't have a `100 % success rate, just like anything with all our kids

Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???

Not debating that, but pointing out how the epidemic of autism couldn't possibly have arisen from all kinds of "different medical issues". That is what the media would have us believe, running around in circles going "what is the cause of autism...aaahhhh!! all the kids are different it's so hard to figure out!!" We already found out the cause and the media continues to lie and deceive us by "searching for causes" and saying there are all kinds of causes - it keeps us from uniting and demanding treatment, compensation and accountability from the medical community for what they caused!! Even worse, what they continue to cause. I'm even starting to question whether Age of Autism is on our side. They are just as guilty as the other mainstream media sources of having us all run in circles.> > >> > > This is the way many with Tourette's Syndrome (TS) describe their tics. The uncontrollable aspect. The build up and the inevitable release. But most have experienced so much teasing from their peers that they don't think that it's funny. The TS community is investigating PANDAS as a reason for their children's TS and using antibiotics to address it.> > > > > > http://www.tourettesyndrome.net/pandas_overview.htm> > > > > > Also, my son will all of a sudden make a loud noise. He thinks it's funny, but it's almost like he "has" to get it out. He has these built up vocal noises that he has to release. They aren't the "nnnnn" or "eeeee" type things that used to be associated with yeast. Do these sound like vocal tics?> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Yes Liz I totally agree with you. We know the cause and no one wants to take responsibility for it. Seriously, what cut does the pharmaceuticals give Doctors for vaccinating children? They were practically pushing the vaccines like it was a big sales at Macy's everytime I took my baby for a Dr. check-up. I regret not standing my ground and rejecting them all. Look at what happend to that poor cheerleader who took that one flu shot.

Of course the media is no help. How come they don't advertise medications for Autism on T.V? or show true documentaries on the discovery channel for children on the spectrum. Why is it such a secretive topic. Now, what do you think about antiviral "Valtrex" & antifungal "Difflucan with Nizoral" medicine to clear the gut and help with metal issues. Do you think this combination treatment might clean out metals? I ask because I read about all of these recovery stories and how this combination has worked for many children without chelating.

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 2:02:24 PMSubject: Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???

Not debating that, but pointing out how the epidemic of autism couldn't possibly have arisen from all kinds of "different medical issues". That is what the media would have us believe, running around in circles going "what is the cause of autism...aaahhhh! ! all the kids are different it's so hard to figure out!!" We already found out the cause and the media continues to lie and deceive us by "searching for causes" and saying there are all kinds of causes - it keeps us from uniting and demanding treatment, compensation and accountability from the medical community for what they caused!! Even worse, what they continue to cause. I'm even starting to question whether Age of Autism is on our side. They are just as guilty as the other mainstream media sources of having us all run in circles.> > >> > > This is the

way many with Tourette's Syndrome (TS) describe their tics. The uncontrollable aspect. The build up and the inevitable release. But most have experienced so much teasing from their peers that they don't think that it's funny. The TS community is investigating PANDAS as a reason for their children's TS and using antibiotics to address it.> > > > > > http://www.tourette syndrome. net/pandas_ overview. htm> > > > > > Also, my son will all of a sudden make a loud noise. He thinks it's funny, but it's almost like he "has" to get it out. He has these built up vocal noises that he has to release. They aren't the "nnnnn" or "eeeee" type things that used to be associated with yeast. Do these sound like vocal tics?> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Yes Liz I totally agree with you. We know the cause and no one wants to take responsibility for it. Seriously, what cut does the pharmaceuticals give Doctors for vaccinating children? They were practically pushing the vaccines like it was a big sales at Macy's everytime I took my baby for a Dr. check-up. I regret not standing my ground and rejecting them all. Look at what happend to that poor cheerleader who took that one flu shot.

Of course the media is no help. How come they don't advertise medications for Autism on T.V? or show true documentaries on the discovery channel for children on the spectrum. Why is it such a secretive topic. Now, what do you think about antiviral "Valtrex" & antifungal "Difflucan with Nizoral" medicine to clear the gut and help with metal issues. Do you think this combination treatment might clean out metals? I ask because I read about all of these recovery stories and how this combination has worked for many children without chelating.

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 2:02:24 PMSubject: Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???

Not debating that, but pointing out how the epidemic of autism couldn't possibly have arisen from all kinds of "different medical issues". That is what the media would have us believe, running around in circles going "what is the cause of autism...aaahhhh! ! all the kids are different it's so hard to figure out!!" We already found out the cause and the media continues to lie and deceive us by "searching for causes" and saying there are all kinds of causes - it keeps us from uniting and demanding treatment, compensation and accountability from the medical community for what they caused!! Even worse, what they continue to cause. I'm even starting to question whether Age of Autism is on our side. They are just as guilty as the other mainstream media sources of having us all run in circles.> > >> > > This is the

way many with Tourette's Syndrome (TS) describe their tics. The uncontrollable aspect. The build up and the inevitable release. But most have experienced so much teasing from their peers that they don't think that it's funny. The TS community is investigating PANDAS as a reason for their children's TS and using antibiotics to address it.> > > > > > http://www.tourette syndrome. net/pandas_ overview. htm> > > > > > Also, my son will all of a sudden make a loud noise. He thinks it's funny, but it's almost like he "has" to get it out. He has these built up vocal noises that he has to release. They aren't the "nnnnn" or "eeeee" type things that used to be associated with yeast. Do these sound like vocal tics?> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Yes Liz I totally agree with you. We know the cause and no one wants to take responsibility for it. Seriously, what cut does the pharmaceuticals give Doctors for vaccinating children? They were practically pushing the vaccines like it was a big sales at Macy's everytime I took my baby for a Dr. check-up. I regret not standing my ground and rejecting them all. Look at what happend to that poor cheerleader who took that one flu shot.

Of course the media is no help. How come they don't advertise medications for Autism on T.V? or show true documentaries on the discovery channel for children on the spectrum. Why is it such a secretive topic. Now, what do you think about antiviral "Valtrex" & antifungal "Difflucan with Nizoral" medicine to clear the gut and help with metal issues. Do you think this combination treatment might clean out metals? I ask because I read about all of these recovery stories and how this combination has worked for many children without chelating.

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 2:02:24 PMSubject: Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???

Not debating that, but pointing out how the epidemic of autism couldn't possibly have arisen from all kinds of "different medical issues". That is what the media would have us believe, running around in circles going "what is the cause of autism...aaahhhh! ! all the kids are different it's so hard to figure out!!" We already found out the cause and the media continues to lie and deceive us by "searching for causes" and saying there are all kinds of causes - it keeps us from uniting and demanding treatment, compensation and accountability from the medical community for what they caused!! Even worse, what they continue to cause. I'm even starting to question whether Age of Autism is on our side. They are just as guilty as the other mainstream media sources of having us all run in circles.> > >> > > This is the

way many with Tourette's Syndrome (TS) describe their tics. The uncontrollable aspect. The build up and the inevitable release. But most have experienced so much teasing from their peers that they don't think that it's funny. The TS community is investigating PANDAS as a reason for their children's TS and using antibiotics to address it.> > > > > > http://www.tourette syndrome. net/pandas_ overview. htm> > > > > > Also, my son will all of a sudden make a loud noise. He thinks it's funny, but it's almost like he "has" to get it out. He has these built up vocal noises that he has to release. They aren't the "nnnnn" or "eeeee" type things that used to be associated with yeast. Do these sound like vocal tics?> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

I have read that the immune system is suppressed not so much by the mercury as by the genetic defects that cause the methylation disorder.

Subject: Re: Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???To: mb12 valtrex Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 5:02 AM

Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???

If you research this, you will find that it is the deranged mineral transport caused by aluminum, mercury, lead, ? that leads to bacterial and parasitic infections. This is NOT my theory, it is truth. I am 100% sure antibiotics are a waste of time and that you have to chelate to resolve these problems. Why? The antibiotics do nothing to the metals...sure, they temporarily kill the bacteria attached to the metals and built up because of the metals, but the antibiotics don't change the fact that the metals are still there, imbedded in tissue and organs keeping the mineral imbalance going, creating a harvesting ground for bacteria and infections. Within a short period of time, other bacteria and/or fungi repopulate. My older son's tics were completely resolved with ALA chelation and I don't think anyone could convince me that PANDAS tics are any different than the ones he had. My younger son had a lot of OCD while on ALA, after ALA

however, that was pretty much gone too and so were his cycles of crazy behavior. Chelation is the answer to PANDAS!>> This is the way many with Tourette's Syndrome (TS) describe their tics. The uncontrollable aspect. The build up and the inevitable release. But most have experienced so much teasing from their peers that they don't think that it's funny. The TS community is investigating PANDAS as a reason for their children's TS and using antibiotics to address it.> > http://www.tourette syndrome. net/pandas_ overview. htm> > Also, my son will all of a sudden make a

loud noise. He thinks it's funny, but it's almost like he "has" to get it out. He has these built up vocal noises that he has to release. They aren't the "nnnnn" or "eeeee" type things that used to be associated with yeast. Do these sound like vocal tics?>

[Guest guest]

I have read that the immune system is suppressed not so much by the mercury as by the genetic defects that cause the methylation disorder.

Subject: Re: Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???To: mb12 valtrex Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 5:02 AM

Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???

If you research this, you will find that it is the deranged mineral transport caused by aluminum, mercury, lead, ? that leads to bacterial and parasitic infections. This is NOT my theory, it is truth. I am 100% sure antibiotics are a waste of time and that you have to chelate to resolve these problems. Why? The antibiotics do nothing to the metals...sure, they temporarily kill the bacteria attached to the metals and built up because of the metals, but the antibiotics don't change the fact that the metals are still there, imbedded in tissue and organs keeping the mineral imbalance going, creating a harvesting ground for bacteria and infections. Within a short period of time, other bacteria and/or fungi repopulate. My older son's tics were completely resolved with ALA chelation and I don't think anyone could convince me that PANDAS tics are any different than the ones he had. My younger son had a lot of OCD while on ALA, after ALA

however, that was pretty much gone too and so were his cycles of crazy behavior. Chelation is the answer to PANDAS!>> This is the way many with Tourette's Syndrome (TS) describe their tics. The uncontrollable aspect. The build up and the inevitable release. But most have experienced so much teasing from their peers that they don't think that it's funny. The TS community is investigating PANDAS as a reason for their children's TS and using antibiotics to address it.> > http://www.tourette syndrome. net/pandas_ overview. htm> > Also, my son will all of a sudden make a

loud noise. He thinks it's funny, but it's almost like he "has" to get it out. He has these built up vocal noises that he has to release. They aren't the "nnnnn" or "eeeee" type things that used to be associated with yeast. Do these sound like vocal tics?>

[Guest guest]

Now, what do you think about antiviral " Valtrex " & antifungal " Diflucan with

Nizoral " medicine to clear the gut and help with metal issues.

Antivirals and antifungals will help, yes, but only to a certain degree. I

believe they could help eliminate some metals, yes, because they are likely in

the tissue together - BUT not to the degree that is needed for healing. They

are not chelators, so the minimal metals coming out would just be an

unintentional side effect if it happened. A chelator would have to be present

to really move a significant burden of metals out.

Antivirals and antifungals will not do anything for lead in the bones, mercury

in the brain, or the problem of aluminum and all the mess it causes.

Do you think this combination treatment might clean out metals?

No

> > > >

> > > > This is the way many with Tourette's Syndrome (TS) describe their tics.

The uncontrollable aspect. The build up and the inevitable release. But most

have experienced so much teasing from their peers that they don't think that

it's funny. The TS community is investigating PANDAS as a reason for their

children's TS and using antibiotics to address it.

> > > >

> > > > http://www.tourette syndrome. net/pandas_ overview. htm

> > > >

> > > > Also, my son will all of a sudden make a loud noise. He thinks it's

funny, but it's almost like he " has " to get it out. He has these built up vocal

noises that he has to release. They aren't the " nnnnn " or " eeeee " type things

that used to be associated with yeast. Do these sound like vocal tics?

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

An infant absorbs 95% of aluminum that bypasses the gut (via mom or vaccines).

If the infant is at all anemic, its body is a sponge for aluminum in cellular

processes. The mineral derangement caused by JUST aluminum wreaks so much havok

that yeah, some kids may not fully recover.

The fact that aluminum takes the place of iron in the body and displaces it into

other parts is another key factor that alone can explain all the coinfections

(not even taking other toxic metals into consideration). Bacteria feed on iron,

strep too. A body low in free iron keeps pathogens in check, but iron overload

creates a breeding ground for infection, not to mention free iron is a major

source of oxidative stress. Calcium and magnesium are ALSO displaced by

aluminum - hence: iron, calcium and magnesium all KEY PLAYERS in biofilm

formation.

People who do nothing, their kids will get a little better, but it takes 7 years

for aluminum to leave the body once it's been absorbed. That could mean that

for 7 years, the child has impaired minerals - high iron for bacteria to feed on

and causing oxidative stress in the liver, joints and brain; high calcium

causing problems; wasting magnesium that is important to cellular processes.

A person could very well show no metals on a test and be loaded with metals

because they can't excrete them. Deranged minerals are a sign of metal

toxicity.

I have yet to hear of an autism doctor saying " Give your kid lots of Calcium and

Iron " ...quite the opposite don't you think? What about the OB/GYN though,

Christel? On the contrary, pregnant women are told " Make sure to get lots of

calcium and take these iron pills! "

Am I making any sense yet? Why aren't they saying, " Take your phosphorus and

your copper! " ?? Because they KNOW something is wrong with the amounts of

CERTAIN minerals in our bodies, there is a REASON we all think that calcium,

magnesium, zinc, etc. are the GOOD MINERALS and that copper is BAD and maybe

that iron is BAD! None of them are good or bad, but when you look at it that

way, don't you think we ALL have something in common? There is a pattern in our

thoughts about what the GOOD and BAD supplements are?

Anyway, aluminum and mercury are involved in WHY our minerals are all screwed up

and why we have these certain impressions about supplements. I don't know yet

how they relate to each other, but I know chelation takes them both out and

corrects the mineral problems.

> > > >

> > > > This is the way many with Tourette's Syndrome (TS) describe their

tics. The uncontrollable aspect. The build up and the inevitable release. But

most have experienced so much teasing from their peers that they don't think

that it's funny. The TS community is investigating PANDAS as a reason for their

children's TS and using antibiotics to address it.

> > > >

> > > > http://www.tourettesyndrome.net/pandas_overview.htm

> > > >

> > > > Also, my son will all of a sudden make a loud noise. He thinks it's

funny, but it's almost like he " has " to get it out. He has these built up vocal

noises that he has to release. They aren't the " nnnnn " or " eeeee " type things

that used to be associated with yeast. Do these sound like vocal tics?

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

An infant absorbs 95% of aluminum that bypasses the gut (via mom or vaccines).

If the infant is at all anemic, its body is a sponge for aluminum in cellular

processes. The mineral derangement caused by JUST aluminum wreaks so much havok

that yeah, some kids may not fully recover.

The fact that aluminum takes the place of iron in the body and displaces it into

other parts is another key factor that alone can explain all the coinfections

(not even taking other toxic metals into consideration). Bacteria feed on iron,

strep too. A body low in free iron keeps pathogens in check, but iron overload

creates a breeding ground for infection, not to mention free iron is a major

source of oxidative stress. Calcium and magnesium are ALSO displaced by

aluminum - hence: iron, calcium and magnesium all KEY PLAYERS in biofilm

formation.

People who do nothing, their kids will get a little better, but it takes 7 years

for aluminum to leave the body once it's been absorbed. That could mean that

for 7 years, the child has impaired minerals - high iron for bacteria to feed on

and causing oxidative stress in the liver, joints and brain; high calcium

causing problems; wasting magnesium that is important to cellular processes.

A person could very well show no metals on a test and be loaded with metals

because they can't excrete them. Deranged minerals are a sign of metal

toxicity.

I have yet to hear of an autism doctor saying " Give your kid lots of Calcium and

Iron " ...quite the opposite don't you think? What about the OB/GYN though,

Christel? On the contrary, pregnant women are told " Make sure to get lots of

calcium and take these iron pills! "

Am I making any sense yet? Why aren't they saying, " Take your phosphorus and

your copper! " ?? Because they KNOW something is wrong with the amounts of

CERTAIN minerals in our bodies, there is a REASON we all think that calcium,

magnesium, zinc, etc. are the GOOD MINERALS and that copper is BAD and maybe

that iron is BAD! None of them are good or bad, but when you look at it that

way, don't you think we ALL have something in common? There is a pattern in our

thoughts about what the GOOD and BAD supplements are?

Anyway, aluminum and mercury are involved in WHY our minerals are all screwed up

and why we have these certain impressions about supplements. I don't know yet

how they relate to each other, but I know chelation takes them both out and

corrects the mineral problems.

> > > >

> > > > This is the way many with Tourette's Syndrome (TS) describe their

tics. The uncontrollable aspect. The build up and the inevitable release. But

most have experienced so much teasing from their peers that they don't think

that it's funny. The TS community is investigating PANDAS as a reason for their

children's TS and using antibiotics to address it.

> > > >

> > > > http://www.tourettesyndrome.net/pandas_overview.htm

> > > >

> > > > Also, my son will all of a sudden make a loud noise. He thinks it's

funny, but it's almost like he " has " to get it out. He has these built up vocal

noises that he has to release. They aren't the " nnnnn " or " eeeee " type things

that used to be associated with yeast. Do these sound like vocal tics?

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

the tests that are out there now are not based on metal excreation that hurts that argument, it measures body burden and what it is DOING to the body. even with this argument it doesn't start with metal over load. in this cercumstance it would be low iron which can happen from genetics, and not based on metals being the starting trigger! my OBGYN never said bone up on iron or cal? they told me to eat healthy. again with your therory that would mean all kids have iron issues as well which is very rarly the case in the kids I have seen and worked with to get to recovery. my son has no issues with that, my NT daughter does and she isn't even close to the spectrum. I do and I am not on the spectrum! same for my mother. so again it would have to be true for ALL our kids and all the general population. same would be for vaccinations. I know that is what started my sons tumble. BUT do I think it was ONLY vaccinations. no. other wise every child that recieved those same vaccinations would be running around with autism. it takes MORE then one thing. we have a genetic predisposition with weak or missing genes, detox issues and taking tylonal didn't help. our son is MTHFR, and had regression with anastesia but that doesn't mean that EVERY kid with going under is going to loose 1-2 years development, it's based on HIM as a person, not a general this makes everyone this way.

again my son isn't on minerials ( I take that back only mag) and hasn't chelated and his minierials are all fine now! I know others with autism (some sever) with out metal issues, and fine on minerials but still have autism. my minerials are all over the place low in selenium, lithium, ect but no specturm here either.

my husband was also tested he is on spectrum on the mild side and he had no metal issues

Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???

An infant absorbs 95% of aluminum that bypasses the gut (via mom or vaccines). If the infant is at all anemic, its body is a sponge for aluminum in cellular processes. The mineral derangement caused by JUST aluminum wreaks so much havok that yeah, some kids may not fully recover. The fact that aluminum takes the place of iron in the body and displaces it into other parts is another key factor that alone can explain all the coinfections (not even taking other toxic metals into consideration). Bacteria feed on iron, strep too. A body low in free iron keeps pathogens in check, but iron overload creates a breeding ground for infection, not to mention free iron is a major source of oxidative stress. Calcium and magnesium are ALSO displaced by aluminum - hence: iron, calcium and magnesium all KEY PLAYERS in biofilm formation. People who do nothing, their kids will get a little better, but it takes 7 years for aluminum to leave the body once it's been absorbed. That could mean that for 7 years, the child has impaired minerals - high iron for bacteria to feed on and causing oxidative stress in the liver, joints and brain; high calcium causing problems; wasting magnesium that is important to cellular processes. A person could very well show no metals on a test and be loaded with metals because they can't excrete them. Deranged minerals are a sign of metal toxicity. I have yet to hear of an autism doctor saying "Give your kid lots of Calcium and Iron"...quite the opposite don't you think? What about the OB/GYN though, Christel? On the contrary, pregnant women are told "Make sure to get lots of calcium and take these iron pills!"Am I making any sense yet? Why aren't they saying, "Take your phosphorus and your copper!"?? Because they KNOW something is wrong with the amounts of CERTAIN minerals in our bodies, there is a REASON we all think that calcium, magnesium, zinc, etc. are the GOOD MINERALS and that copper is BAD and maybe that iron is BAD! None of them are good or bad, but when you look at it that way, don't you think we ALL have something in common? There is a pattern in our thoughts about what the GOOD and BAD supplements are?Anyway, aluminum and mercury are involved in WHY our minerals are all screwed up and why we have these certain impressions about supplements. I don't know yet how they relate to each other, but I know chelation takes them both out and corrects the mineral problems. > > > >> > > > This is the way many with Tourette's Syndrome (TS) describe their tics. The uncontrollable aspect. The build up and the inevitable release. But most have experienced so much teasing from their peers that they don't think that it's funny. The TS community is investigating PANDAS as a reason for their children's TS and using antibiotics to address it.> > > > > > > > http://www.tourettesyndrome.net/pandas_overview.htm> > > > > > > > Also, my son will all of a sudden make a loud noise. He thinks it's funny, but it's almost like he "has" to get it out. He has these built up vocal noises that he has to release. They aren't the "nnnnn" or "eeeee" type things that used to be associated with yeast. Do these sound like vocal tics?> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

the tests that are out there now are not based on metal excreation that hurts that argument, it measures body burden and what it is DOING to the body. even with this argument it doesn't start with metal over load. in this cercumstance it would be low iron which can happen from genetics, and not based on metals being the starting trigger! my OBGYN never said bone up on iron or cal? they told me to eat healthy. again with your therory that would mean all kids have iron issues as well which is very rarly the case in the kids I have seen and worked with to get to recovery. my son has no issues with that, my NT daughter does and she isn't even close to the spectrum. I do and I am not on the spectrum! same for my mother. so again it would have to be true for ALL our kids and all the general population. same would be for vaccinations. I know that is what started my sons tumble. BUT do I think it was ONLY vaccinations. no. other wise every child that recieved those same vaccinations would be running around with autism. it takes MORE then one thing. we have a genetic predisposition with weak or missing genes, detox issues and taking tylonal didn't help. our son is MTHFR, and had regression with anastesia but that doesn't mean that EVERY kid with going under is going to loose 1-2 years development, it's based on HIM as a person, not a general this makes everyone this way.

again my son isn't on minerials ( I take that back only mag) and hasn't chelated and his minierials are all fine now! I know others with autism (some sever) with out metal issues, and fine on minerials but still have autism. my minerials are all over the place low in selenium, lithium, ect but no specturm here either.

my husband was also tested he is on spectrum on the mild side and he had no metal issues

Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???

An infant absorbs 95% of aluminum that bypasses the gut (via mom or vaccines). If the infant is at all anemic, its body is a sponge for aluminum in cellular processes. The mineral derangement caused by JUST aluminum wreaks so much havok that yeah, some kids may not fully recover. The fact that aluminum takes the place of iron in the body and displaces it into other parts is another key factor that alone can explain all the coinfections (not even taking other toxic metals into consideration). Bacteria feed on iron, strep too. A body low in free iron keeps pathogens in check, but iron overload creates a breeding ground for infection, not to mention free iron is a major source of oxidative stress. Calcium and magnesium are ALSO displaced by aluminum - hence: iron, calcium and magnesium all KEY PLAYERS in biofilm formation. People who do nothing, their kids will get a little better, but it takes 7 years for aluminum to leave the body once it's been absorbed. That could mean that for 7 years, the child has impaired minerals - high iron for bacteria to feed on and causing oxidative stress in the liver, joints and brain; high calcium causing problems; wasting magnesium that is important to cellular processes. A person could very well show no metals on a test and be loaded with metals because they can't excrete them. Deranged minerals are a sign of metal toxicity. I have yet to hear of an autism doctor saying "Give your kid lots of Calcium and Iron"...quite the opposite don't you think? What about the OB/GYN though, Christel? On the contrary, pregnant women are told "Make sure to get lots of calcium and take these iron pills!"Am I making any sense yet? Why aren't they saying, "Take your phosphorus and your copper!"?? Because they KNOW something is wrong with the amounts of CERTAIN minerals in our bodies, there is a REASON we all think that calcium, magnesium, zinc, etc. are the GOOD MINERALS and that copper is BAD and maybe that iron is BAD! None of them are good or bad, but when you look at it that way, don't you think we ALL have something in common? There is a pattern in our thoughts about what the GOOD and BAD supplements are?Anyway, aluminum and mercury are involved in WHY our minerals are all screwed up and why we have these certain impressions about supplements. I don't know yet how they relate to each other, but I know chelation takes them both out and corrects the mineral problems. > > > >> > > > This is the way many with Tourette's Syndrome (TS) describe their tics. The uncontrollable aspect. The build up and the inevitable release. But most have experienced so much teasing from their peers that they don't think that it's funny. The TS community is investigating PANDAS as a reason for their children's TS and using antibiotics to address it.> > > > > > > > http://www.tourettesyndrome.net/pandas_overview.htm> > > > > > > > Also, my son will all of a sudden make a loud noise. He thinks it's funny, but it's almost like he "has" to get it out. He has these built up vocal noises that he has to release. They aren't the "nnnnn" or "eeeee" type things that used to be associated with yeast. Do these sound like vocal tics?> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Some children end up with Autism without ever beeing vaccinated. This is because that child, in utero, gets whatever toxins the mother might be carrying around in her body. My sister-in-law is an OBGYN and she did a study on cord blood and compared it to the mothers blood. The toxin in question was flame retardants. To her surprise, the flame retardants in cord blood were 10xs higher than that of the mothers blood. Maybe this is where the genetic defects are happening?! I have also noticed that alot of children with cancer, auto immune disease, allergies, autism, these things seem to occur more in the first born child. I'm NOT saying they are all first born but it seems as tho alot are. Has there been any study on

this I wonder? I had 9 amalgams fillings when I was 10years old. I remember my mother administering mercurichrome (sp) on my cuts as a child. I was a dental asst. and was around radiation and mercury all the time. So, for me, I really didn't notice regression with my son; I believe he would have had autism without vaccinations. Some milestones came and some never did. My son has issues with metals, viruses, and bacteria. I am suspecting that he may even have Pandas. Every child will respond differently to protocols (whatever it may be). I think we all agree on that. Toxins are being passed down from one generation to another. This is my theory! My sister, first born, died at 28 from Lupus. Her son, first born, has ADHD. My son, also first born, has autism. It's a trickle down effect. If I knew then what I know now, I

would make sure I detoxed before I got pregnant!!!! For most, toxins are the main culprit, whether it be Mercury, lead, flame retardants, etc.......

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 2:56:29 PMSubject: Re: Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???

I have read that the immune system is suppressed not so much by the mercury as by the genetic defects that cause the methylation disorder.

From: <Ladyshrink111@ peoplepc. com>Subject: Re: Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Monday, December 14, 2009, 5:02 AM

Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???

If you research this, you will find that it is the deranged mineral transport caused by aluminum, mercury, lead, ? that leads to bacterial and parasitic infections. This is NOT my theory, it is truth. I am 100% sure antibiotics are a waste of time and that you have to chelate to resolve these problems. Why? The antibiotics do nothing to the metals...sure, they temporarily kill the bacteria attached to the metals and built up because of the metals, but the antibiotics don't change the fact that the metals are still there, imbedded in tissue and organs keeping the mineral imbalance going, creating a harvesting ground for bacteria and infections. Within a short period of time, other bacteria and/or fungi repopulate. My older son's tics were completely resolved with ALA chelation and I don't think anyone could convince me that PANDAS tics are any different than the ones he had. My younger son had a lot of OCD while on ALA, after ALA

however, that was pretty much gone too and so were his cycles of crazy behavior. Chelation is the answer to PANDAS!>> This is the way many with Tourette's Syndrome (TS) describe their tics. The uncontrollable aspect. The build up and the inevitable release. But most have experienced so much teasing from their peers that they don't think that it's funny. The TS community is investigating PANDAS as a reason for their children's TS and using antibiotics to address it.> > http://www.tourette syndrome. net/pandas_ overview. htm> > Also, my son will all of a sudden make a loud noise. He thinks it's funny, but it's almost

like he "has" to get it out. He has these built up vocal noises that he has to release. They aren't the "nnnnn" or "eeeee" type things that used to be associated with yeast. Do these sound like vocal tics?>

[Guest guest]

Some children end up with Autism without ever beeing vaccinated. This is because that child, in utero, gets whatever toxins the mother might be carrying around in her body. My sister-in-law is an OBGYN and she did a study on cord blood and compared it to the mothers blood. The toxin in question was flame retardants. To her surprise, the flame retardants in cord blood were 10xs higher than that of the mothers blood. Maybe this is where the genetic defects are happening?! I have also noticed that alot of children with cancer, auto immune disease, allergies, autism, these things seem to occur more in the first born child. I'm NOT saying they are all first born but it seems as tho alot are. Has there been any study on

this I wonder? I had 9 amalgams fillings when I was 10years old. I remember my mother administering mercurichrome (sp) on my cuts as a child. I was a dental asst. and was around radiation and mercury all the time. So, for me, I really didn't notice regression with my son; I believe he would have had autism without vaccinations. Some milestones came and some never did. My son has issues with metals, viruses, and bacteria. I am suspecting that he may even have Pandas. Every child will respond differently to protocols (whatever it may be). I think we all agree on that. Toxins are being passed down from one generation to another. This is my theory! My sister, first born, died at 28 from Lupus. Her son, first born, has ADHD. My son, also first born, has autism. It's a trickle down effect. If I knew then what I know now, I

would make sure I detoxed before I got pregnant!!!! For most, toxins are the main culprit, whether it be Mercury, lead, flame retardants, etc.......

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 2:56:29 PMSubject: Re: Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???

I have read that the immune system is suppressed not so much by the mercury as by the genetic defects that cause the methylation disorder.

From: <Ladyshrink111@ peoplepc. com>Subject: Re: Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Monday, December 14, 2009, 5:02 AM

Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???

If you research this, you will find that it is the deranged mineral transport caused by aluminum, mercury, lead, ? that leads to bacterial and parasitic infections. This is NOT my theory, it is truth. I am 100% sure antibiotics are a waste of time and that you have to chelate to resolve these problems. Why? The antibiotics do nothing to the metals...sure, they temporarily kill the bacteria attached to the metals and built up because of the metals, but the antibiotics don't change the fact that the metals are still there, imbedded in tissue and organs keeping the mineral imbalance going, creating a harvesting ground for bacteria and infections. Within a short period of time, other bacteria and/or fungi repopulate. My older son's tics were completely resolved with ALA chelation and I don't think anyone could convince me that PANDAS tics are any different than the ones he had. My younger son had a lot of OCD while on ALA, after ALA

however, that was pretty much gone too and so were his cycles of crazy behavior. Chelation is the answer to PANDAS!>> This is the way many with Tourette's Syndrome (TS) describe their tics. The uncontrollable aspect. The build up and the inevitable release. But most have experienced so much teasing from their peers that they don't think that it's funny. The TS community is investigating PANDAS as a reason for their children's TS and using antibiotics to address it.> > http://www.tourette syndrome. net/pandas_ overview. htm> > Also, my son will all of a sudden make a loud noise. He thinks it's funny, but it's almost

like he "has" to get it out. He has these built up vocal noises that he has to release. They aren't the "nnnnn" or "eeeee" type things that used to be associated with yeast. Do these sound like vocal tics?>

[Guest guest]

Some children end up with Autism without ever beeing vaccinated. This is because that child, in utero, gets whatever toxins the mother might be carrying around in her body. My sister-in-law is an OBGYN and she did a study on cord blood and compared it to the mothers blood. The toxin in question was flame retardants. To her surprise, the flame retardants in cord blood were 10xs higher than that of the mothers blood. Maybe this is where the genetic defects are happening?! I have also noticed that alot of children with cancer, auto immune disease, allergies, autism, these things seem to occur more in the first born child. I'm NOT saying they are all first born but it seems as tho alot are. Has there been any study on

this I wonder? I had 9 amalgams fillings when I was 10years old. I remember my mother administering mercurichrome (sp) on my cuts as a child. I was a dental asst. and was around radiation and mercury all the time. So, for me, I really didn't notice regression with my son; I believe he would have had autism without vaccinations. Some milestones came and some never did. My son has issues with metals, viruses, and bacteria. I am suspecting that he may even have Pandas. Every child will respond differently to protocols (whatever it may be). I think we all agree on that. Toxins are being passed down from one generation to another. This is my theory! My sister, first born, died at 28 from Lupus. Her son, first born, has ADHD. My son, also first born, has autism. It's a trickle down effect. If I knew then what I know now, I

would make sure I detoxed before I got pregnant!!!! For most, toxins are the main culprit, whether it be Mercury, lead, flame retardants, etc.......

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 2:56:29 PMSubject: Re: Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???

I have read that the immune system is suppressed not so much by the mercury as by the genetic defects that cause the methylation disorder.

From: <Ladyshrink111@ peoplepc. com>Subject: Re: Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Monday, December 14, 2009, 5:02 AM

Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???

If you research this, you will find that it is the deranged mineral transport caused by aluminum, mercury, lead, ? that leads to bacterial and parasitic infections. This is NOT my theory, it is truth. I am 100% sure antibiotics are a waste of time and that you have to chelate to resolve these problems. Why? The antibiotics do nothing to the metals...sure, they temporarily kill the bacteria attached to the metals and built up because of the metals, but the antibiotics don't change the fact that the metals are still there, imbedded in tissue and organs keeping the mineral imbalance going, creating a harvesting ground for bacteria and infections. Within a short period of time, other bacteria and/or fungi repopulate. My older son's tics were completely resolved with ALA chelation and I don't think anyone could convince me that PANDAS tics are any different than the ones he had. My younger son had a lot of OCD while on ALA, after ALA

however, that was pretty much gone too and so were his cycles of crazy behavior. Chelation is the answer to PANDAS!>> This is the way many with Tourette's Syndrome (TS) describe their tics. The uncontrollable aspect. The build up and the inevitable release. But most have experienced so much teasing from their peers that they don't think that it's funny. The TS community is investigating PANDAS as a reason for their children's TS and using antibiotics to address it.> > http://www.tourette syndrome. net/pandas_ overview. htm> > Also, my son will all of a sudden make a loud noise. He thinks it's funny, but it's almost

like he "has" to get it out. He has these built up vocal noises that he has to release. They aren't the "nnnnn" or "eeeee" type things that used to be associated with yeast. Do these sound like vocal tics?>

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From: <Ladyshrink111@ peoplepc. com>Subject: Re: Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Monday, December 14, 2009, 5:02 AM

Re: PANDAS Question Was:What are these bumps about???

If you research this, you will find that it is the deranged mineral transport caused by aluminum, mercury, lead, ? that leads to bacterial and parasitic infections. This is NOT my theory, it is truth. I am 100% sure antibiotics are a waste of time and that you have to chelate to resolve these problems. Why? The antibiotics do nothing to the metals...sure, they temporarily kill the bacteria attached to the metals and built up because of the metals, but the antibiotics don't change the fact that the metals are still there, imbedded in tissue and organs keeping the mineral imbalance going, creating a harvesting ground for bacteria and infections. Within a short period of time, other bacteria and/or fungi repopulate. My older son's tics were completely resolved with ALA chelation and I don't think anyone could convince me that PANDAS tics are any different than the ones he had. My younger son had a lot of OCD while on ALA, after ALA

however, that was pretty much gone too and so were his cycles of crazy behavior. Chelation is the answer to PANDAS!>> This is the way many with Tourette's Syndrome (TS) describe their tics. The uncontrollable aspect. The build up and the inevitable release. But most have experienced so much teasing from their peers that they don't think that it's funny. The TS community is investigating PANDAS as a reason for their children's TS and using antibiotics to address it.> > http://www.tourette syndrome. net/pandas_ overview. htm> > Also, my son will all of a sudden make a loud noise. He thinks it's funny, but it's

almost

like he "has" to get it out. He has these built up vocal noises that he has to release. They aren't the "nnnnn" or "eeeee" type things that used to be associated with yeast. Do these sound like vocal tics?>