RE: Gut Pain Cause?

[Guest guest]

Dana's web page isn't up, unfortunately, because she had a really good Miralax

page.

Other things that work for us to keep things " going: " psyllium fiber and miracle

fiber

For a " right now " constipation problem: mag cit

My son's tube feeding formula is constipating.

Our son's doctor gave him Miralax in the past and I gave it to him before I knew

how bad it was. I told the Dr, " it doesn't work. " His solution, " double the

amount. " Yeah, no.

>

> There are horror stories out there from long term Miralax use. Just Google

> it. As an alternative you may want to look at Oxypowder or aloe vera juice.

[Guest guest]

Dana's web page isn't up, unfortunately, because she had a really good Miralax

page.

Other things that work for us to keep things " going: " psyllium fiber and miracle

fiber

For a " right now " constipation problem: mag cit

My son's tube feeding formula is constipating.

Our son's doctor gave him Miralax in the past and I gave it to him before I knew

how bad it was. I told the Dr, " it doesn't work. " His solution, " double the

amount. " Yeah, no.

>

> There are horror stories out there from long term Miralax use. Just Google

> it. As an alternative you may want to look at Oxypowder or aloe vera juice.

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

My son is ASD and 4 1/2. We dealt with constipation pretty regulary for A LONG

TIME (from 1 to 4 ). The only thing that really helped was vit c and magnesium

but that was really hard to get the right dose. We finally gave in and tried

Miralax and it has been great for us! We're also doing SCD and raisins are very

hard to digest and ALWAYS made him constipated. Also from what I understand Vit.

D can be constipating. I know everyone says horrible things about Miralax but

having regular bm's has really helped my DS come along developmentally. We plan

on using it until his bowel muscle have been retrained. Just a thought, I know

that DS situation is different but I thought the info may be helpful

Kitty mom to

4 & 1/2 ASD, SCD since 07/08 &

NT with gut issues, SCD since 07/08

> > >

> > > Hi everyone,

> > > My almost 3yo and I are relatively new to the bio-medical approach.

> > Before we began using bio-medical treatments, back in November 2009,

> > would have been characterized as HFA and generally happy. He whined when he

> > didn;t get what he wanted, but he was happy. He remained this way on the

> > bio-med approach until about a week or two ago when he started being grumpy

> > all the time. I think he is experiencing gastro-intestinal pain, but he is

> > not yet able to tell me. He cries frequently, wants to be held all the time,

> > and sometimes wants you to hit his stomach. He went from interest in potty

> > training and asking us to take him to the bathroom to screaming at the

> > thought of the toilet. A toe-walker from way back, he is even higher on his

> > toes these days. He sometimes has huge bowel movements (literally over a

> > foot long) and his last two large movements have had visible blood. The

> > first one showed enough blood for me to have to wipe it away from his anus.

> > While he experienced some constipation before bio-med it was never this bad

> > and he was never in obvious pain.

> > > Can you guys help me troubleshoot what we are doing? I'm so afraid that I

> > am hurting rather than helping him. The fact that we haven't seen any major

> > improvements (except in the amount that he eats) with bio-med yet isn't

> > helping my frustration. Any advice would be really appreciated.

> > >

> > > Here is what we have been doing:

> > > GFCF since November 2009 (no noticeable improvement with GF)

> > > MB12 Subcutaneous shots since January 2010

> > > Trienza since February 2010

> > > Vitamin D3 1000 IU since October 2009

> > > Switched from Rice Milk to Soy/Hemp milk due to allergy February 2010

> > > Gummy vitamins (since forever - waiting for our DRN vitamins to arrive)

> > > Epsom Salt baths since last week (seemed really happy when he would get

> > in for the first few days, today he didn't cheer at all)

> > > Zinc since February

> > > Zantac since he was 3 months old

> > > We gave him Miralax (total of 3 tablespoons over two days) before I read

> > how bad it was for our kids - He was in pain before the Miralax

> > >

> > > He eats mostly protein (lately trying to down select from meat to fat -

> > it's pretty gross) and carbs (trying to expand his diet - zinc has made him

> > eat more, but not different foods). We give him plenty of raisins,

> > applesauce and juice to try to balance it out.

> > >

> > > To be clear, this doesn't appear to be a regression. He still has his

> > skills and is learning. This is a physical problem. We're doing some tests

> > prescribed by his DAN! to check his gut function, but it will take weeks to

> > address it. We've been to a regular gastro and his suggestion was Miralax.

> > Can anyone provide any leads on this to help us get to the root of the

> > problem. Does Trienza ever cause gastro problems? We thought it was

> > constipating the first time we tried it. What else could it be?

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance (and sorry for the really long post).

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

Thank you all for the great advice and insights. I certainly had not considered

that raisins could be constipating. I thought they were like mini-prunes. I'll

keep you all posted on what finally works.

Thanks again,

> > > >

> > > > Hi everyone,

> > > > My almost 3yo and I are relatively new to the bio-medical approach.

> > > Before we began using bio-medical treatments, back in November 2009,

> > > would have been characterized as HFA and generally happy. He whined when

he

> > > didn;t get what he wanted, but he was happy. He remained this way on the

> > > bio-med approach until about a week or two ago when he started being

grumpy

> > > all the time. I think he is experiencing gastro-intestinal pain, but he is

> > > not yet able to tell me. He cries frequently, wants to be held all the

time,

> > > and sometimes wants you to hit his stomach. He went from interest in potty

> > > training and asking us to take him to the bathroom to screaming at the

> > > thought of the toilet. A toe-walker from way back, he is even higher on

his

> > > toes these days. He sometimes has huge bowel movements (literally over a

> > > foot long) and his last two large movements have had visible blood. The

> > > first one showed enough blood for me to have to wipe it away from his

anus.

> > > While he experienced some constipation before bio-med it was never this

bad

> > > and he was never in obvious pain.

> > > > Can you guys help me troubleshoot what we are doing? I'm so afraid that

I

> > > am hurting rather than helping him. The fact that we haven't seen any

major

> > > improvements (except in the amount that he eats) with bio-med yet isn't

> > > helping my frustration. Any advice would be really appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > Here is what we have been doing:

> > > > GFCF since November 2009 (no noticeable improvement with GF)

> > > > MB12 Subcutaneous shots since January 2010

> > > > Trienza since February 2010

> > > > Vitamin D3 1000 IU since October 2009

> > > > Switched from Rice Milk to Soy/Hemp milk due to allergy February 2010

> > > > Gummy vitamins (since forever - waiting for our DRN vitamins to arrive)

> > > > Epsom Salt baths since last week (seemed really happy when he would get

> > > in for the first few days, today he didn't cheer at all)

> > > > Zinc since February

> > > > Zantac since he was 3 months old

> > > > We gave him Miralax (total of 3 tablespoons over two days) before I read

> > > how bad it was for our kids - He was in pain before the Miralax

> > > >

> > > > He eats mostly protein (lately trying to down select from meat to fat -

> > > it's pretty gross) and carbs (trying to expand his diet - zinc has made

him

> > > eat more, but not different foods). We give him plenty of raisins,

> > > applesauce and juice to try to balance it out.

> > > >

> > > > To be clear, this doesn't appear to be a regression. He still has his

> > > skills and is learning. This is a physical problem. We're doing some tests

> > > prescribed by his DAN! to check his gut function, but it will take weeks

to

> > > address it. We've been to a regular gastro and his suggestion was Miralax.

> > > Can anyone provide any leads on this to help us get to the root of the

> > > problem. Does Trienza ever cause gastro problems? We thought it was

> > > constipating the first time we tried it. What else could it be?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks in advance (and sorry for the really long post).

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Don't worry the constipation eventually goes away,then the malabsorption starts...

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 9:58:50 AMSubject: Re: Gut Pain Cause?

Hi all,My son is ASD and 4 1/2. We dealt with constipation pretty regulary for A LONG TIME (from 1 to 4 ). The only thing that really helped was vit c and magnesium but that was really hard to get the right dose. We finally gave in and tried Miralax and it has been great for us! We're also doing SCD and raisins are very hard to digest and ALWAYS made him constipated. Also from what I understand Vit. D can be constipating. I know everyone says horrible things about Miralax but having regular bm's has really helped my DS come along developmentally. We plan on using it until his bowel muscle have been retrained. Just a thought, I know that DS situation is different but I thought the info may be helpfulKitty mom to 4 & 1/2 ASD, SCD since 07/08 & NT with gut issues, SCD since 07/08> > >> > > Hi everyone,> > > My almost 3yo and I are relatively new to the bio-medical

approach.> > Before we began using bio-medical treatments, back in November 2009, > > would have been characterized as HFA and generally happy. He whined when he> > didn;t get what he wanted, but he was happy. He remained this way on the> > bio-med approach until about a week or two ago when he started being grumpy> > all the time. I think he is experiencing gastro-intestinal pain, but he is> > not yet able to tell me. He cries frequently, wants to be held all the time,> > and sometimes wants you to hit his stomach. He went from interest in potty> > training and asking us to take him to the bathroom to screaming at the> > thought of the toilet. A toe-walker from way back, he is even higher on his> > toes these days. He sometimes has huge bowel movements (literally over a> > foot long) and his last two large movements have had visible blood.

The> > first one showed enough blood for me to have to wipe it away from his anus.> > While he experienced some constipation before bio-med it was never this bad> > and he was never in obvious pain.> > > Can you guys help me troubleshoot what we are doing? I'm so afraid that I> > am hurting rather than helping him. The fact that we haven't seen any major> > improvements (except in the amount that he eats) with bio-med yet isn't> > helping my frustration. Any advice would be really appreciated.> > >> > > Here is what we have been doing:> > > GFCF since November 2009 (no noticeable improvement with GF)> > > MB12 Subcutaneous shots since January 2010> > > Trienza since February 2010> > > Vitamin D3 1000 IU since October 2009> > > Switched from Rice Milk to Soy/Hemp milk due to allergy February

2010> > > Gummy vitamins (since forever - waiting for our DRN vitamins to arrive)> > > Epsom Salt baths since last week (seemed really happy when he would get> > in for the first few days, today he didn't cheer at all)> > > Zinc since February> > > Zantac since he was 3 months old> > > We gave him Miralax (total of 3 tablespoons over two days) before I read> > how bad it was for our kids - He was in pain before the Miralax> > >> > > He eats mostly protein (lately trying to down select from meat to fat -> > it's pretty gross) and carbs (trying to expand his diet - zinc has made him> > eat more, but not different foods). We give him plenty of raisins,> > applesauce and juice to try to balance it out.> > >> > > To be clear, this doesn't appear to be a regression. He still has his> >

skills and is learning. This is a physical problem. We're doing some tests> > prescribed by his DAN! to check his gut function, but it will take weeks to> > address it. We've been to a regular gastro and his suggestion was Miralax.> > Can anyone provide any leads on this to help us get to the root of the> > problem. Does Trienza ever cause gastro problems? We thought it was> > constipating the first time we tried it. What else could it be?> > >> > > Thanks in advance (and sorry for the really long post).> > > > > >> >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

Don't worry the constipation eventually goes away,then the malabsorption starts...

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 9:58:50 AMSubject: Re: Gut Pain Cause?

Hi all,My son is ASD and 4 1/2. We dealt with constipation pretty regulary for A LONG TIME (from 1 to 4 ). The only thing that really helped was vit c and magnesium but that was really hard to get the right dose. We finally gave in and tried Miralax and it has been great for us! We're also doing SCD and raisins are very hard to digest and ALWAYS made him constipated. Also from what I understand Vit. D can be constipating. I know everyone says horrible things about Miralax but having regular bm's has really helped my DS come along developmentally. We plan on using it until his bowel muscle have been retrained. Just a thought, I know that DS situation is different but I thought the info may be helpfulKitty mom to 4 & 1/2 ASD, SCD since 07/08 & NT with gut issues, SCD since 07/08> > >> > > Hi everyone,> > > My almost 3yo and I are relatively new to the bio-medical

approach.> > Before we began using bio-medical treatments, back in November 2009, > > would have been characterized as HFA and generally happy. He whined when he> > didn;t get what he wanted, but he was happy. He remained this way on the> > bio-med approach until about a week or two ago when he started being grumpy> > all the time. I think he is experiencing gastro-intestinal pain, but he is> > not yet able to tell me. He cries frequently, wants to be held all the time,> > and sometimes wants you to hit his stomach. He went from interest in potty> > training and asking us to take him to the bathroom to screaming at the> > thought of the toilet. A toe-walker from way back, he is even higher on his> > toes these days. He sometimes has huge bowel movements (literally over a> > foot long) and his last two large movements have had visible blood.

The> > first one showed enough blood for me to have to wipe it away from his anus.> > While he experienced some constipation before bio-med it was never this bad> > and he was never in obvious pain.> > > Can you guys help me troubleshoot what we are doing? I'm so afraid that I> > am hurting rather than helping him. The fact that we haven't seen any major> > improvements (except in the amount that he eats) with bio-med yet isn't> > helping my frustration. Any advice would be really appreciated.> > >> > > Here is what we have been doing:> > > GFCF since November 2009 (no noticeable improvement with GF)> > > MB12 Subcutaneous shots since January 2010> > > Trienza since February 2010> > > Vitamin D3 1000 IU since October 2009> > > Switched from Rice Milk to Soy/Hemp milk due to allergy February

2010> > > Gummy vitamins (since forever - waiting for our DRN vitamins to arrive)> > > Epsom Salt baths since last week (seemed really happy when he would get> > in for the first few days, today he didn't cheer at all)> > > Zinc since February> > > Zantac since he was 3 months old> > > We gave him Miralax (total of 3 tablespoons over two days) before I read> > how bad it was for our kids - He was in pain before the Miralax> > >> > > He eats mostly protein (lately trying to down select from meat to fat -> > it's pretty gross) and carbs (trying to expand his diet - zinc has made him> > eat more, but not different foods). We give him plenty of raisins,> > applesauce and juice to try to balance it out.> > >> > > To be clear, this doesn't appear to be a regression. He still has his> >

skills and is learning. This is a physical problem. We're doing some tests> > prescribed by his DAN! to check his gut function, but it will take weeks to> > address it. We've been to a regular gastro and his suggestion was Miralax.> > Can anyone provide any leads on this to help us get to the root of the> > problem. Does Trienza ever cause gastro problems? We thought it was> > constipating the first time we tried it. What else could it be?> > >> > > Thanks in advance (and sorry for the really long post).> > > > > >> >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

Don't worry the constipation eventually goes away,then the malabsorption starts...

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 9:58:50 AMSubject: Re: Gut Pain Cause?

Hi all,My son is ASD and 4 1/2. We dealt with constipation pretty regulary for A LONG TIME (from 1 to 4 ). The only thing that really helped was vit c and magnesium but that was really hard to get the right dose. We finally gave in and tried Miralax and it has been great for us! We're also doing SCD and raisins are very hard to digest and ALWAYS made him constipated. Also from what I understand Vit. D can be constipating. I know everyone says horrible things about Miralax but having regular bm's has really helped my DS come along developmentally. We plan on using it until his bowel muscle have been retrained. Just a thought, I know that DS situation is different but I thought the info may be helpfulKitty mom to 4 & 1/2 ASD, SCD since 07/08 & NT with gut issues, SCD since 07/08> > >> > > Hi everyone,> > > My almost 3yo and I are relatively new to the bio-medical

approach.> > Before we began using bio-medical treatments, back in November 2009, > > would have been characterized as HFA and generally happy. He whined when he> > didn;t get what he wanted, but he was happy. He remained this way on the> > bio-med approach until about a week or two ago when he started being grumpy> > all the time. I think he is experiencing gastro-intestinal pain, but he is> > not yet able to tell me. He cries frequently, wants to be held all the time,> > and sometimes wants you to hit his stomach. He went from interest in potty> > training and asking us to take him to the bathroom to screaming at the> > thought of the toilet. A toe-walker from way back, he is even higher on his> > toes these days. He sometimes has huge bowel movements (literally over a> > foot long) and his last two large movements have had visible blood.

The> > first one showed enough blood for me to have to wipe it away from his anus.> > While he experienced some constipation before bio-med it was never this bad> > and he was never in obvious pain.> > > Can you guys help me troubleshoot what we are doing? I'm so afraid that I> > am hurting rather than helping him. The fact that we haven't seen any major> > improvements (except in the amount that he eats) with bio-med yet isn't> > helping my frustration. Any advice would be really appreciated.> > >> > > Here is what we have been doing:> > > GFCF since November 2009 (no noticeable improvement with GF)> > > MB12 Subcutaneous shots since January 2010> > > Trienza since February 2010> > > Vitamin D3 1000 IU since October 2009> > > Switched from Rice Milk to Soy/Hemp milk due to allergy February

2010> > > Gummy vitamins (since forever - waiting for our DRN vitamins to arrive)> > > Epsom Salt baths since last week (seemed really happy when he would get> > in for the first few days, today he didn't cheer at all)> > > Zinc since February> > > Zantac since he was 3 months old> > > We gave him Miralax (total of 3 tablespoons over two days) before I read> > how bad it was for our kids - He was in pain before the Miralax> > >> > > He eats mostly protein (lately trying to down select from meat to fat -> > it's pretty gross) and carbs (trying to expand his diet - zinc has made him> > eat more, but not different foods). We give him plenty of raisins,> > applesauce and juice to try to balance it out.> > >> > > To be clear, this doesn't appear to be a regression. He still has his> >

skills and is learning. This is a physical problem. We're doing some tests> > prescribed by his DAN! to check his gut function, but it will take weeks to> > address it. We've been to a regular gastro and his suggestion was Miralax.> > Can anyone provide any leads on this to help us get to the root of the> > problem. Does Trienza ever cause gastro problems? We thought it was> > constipating the first time we tried it. What else could it be?> > >> > > Thanks in advance (and sorry for the really long post).> > > > > >> >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

Why?

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 7:53:28 PMSubject: Re: Gut Pain Cause?

Hello, I'm sorry you're having so many issues, I'm going to throw in my 2 cents here FWIW. I would eliminate the gummy vitamins and the soy...soy is horrible, ecspecially for boys

[Guest guest]

Why?

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 7:53:28 PMSubject: Re: Gut Pain Cause?

Hello, I'm sorry you're having so many issues, I'm going to throw in my 2 cents here FWIW. I would eliminate the gummy vitamins and the soy...soy is horrible, ecspecially for boys

[Guest guest]

Why?

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 7:53:28 PMSubject: Re: Gut Pain Cause?

Hello, I'm sorry you're having so many issues, I'm going to throw in my 2 cents here FWIW. I would eliminate the gummy vitamins and the soy...soy is horrible, ecspecially for boys

[Guest guest]

I've always been under the impression -- that it disrupt testosterone levels in

boys -- due to the estrogen mimicking effect. Essentially, feeding boys soy

formula is like giving them birth control pills.

Also, feeding them soy also increases the maturation process. Which can give

little boys thyroid problems, (along with a whole host of issues. Like inability

to reproduce when he is older, he's only 3)

The information is out there -- lots of articles, google " boys and soy milk " --

I did this when my son was young because he had such feeding issues. I did soy

for a couple of weeks, and then I read that, and found other substitutes (not

that it helped much). Soy is found in a LOT of things -- especially processed

foods. So it's really hard to stay away from.

On the advice of one of the members here, I switched him from a soy containing

Cod Liver Oil to a non soy one. I haven't noticed any difference, but my guess

would be that I wouldn't necessarily see anything significant. However, just

because you can't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there...

laura

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> To: mb12 valtrex

> Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 7:53:28 PM

> Subject: Re: Gut Pain Cause?

>

>  

> Hello, I'm sorry you're having so many issues, I'm going to throw in my 2

cents here FWIW. I would eliminate the gummy vitamins and the soy...soy is

horrible, ecspecially for boys

>

[Guest guest]

I've always been under the impression -- that it disrupt testosterone levels in

boys -- due to the estrogen mimicking effect. Essentially, feeding boys soy

formula is like giving them birth control pills.

Also, feeding them soy also increases the maturation process. Which can give

little boys thyroid problems, (along with a whole host of issues. Like inability

to reproduce when he is older, he's only 3)

The information is out there -- lots of articles, google " boys and soy milk " --

I did this when my son was young because he had such feeding issues. I did soy

for a couple of weeks, and then I read that, and found other substitutes (not

that it helped much). Soy is found in a LOT of things -- especially processed

foods. So it's really hard to stay away from.

On the advice of one of the members here, I switched him from a soy containing

Cod Liver Oil to a non soy one. I haven't noticed any difference, but my guess

would be that I wouldn't necessarily see anything significant. However, just

because you can't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there...

laura

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>  Why?

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> To: mb12 valtrex

> Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 7:53:28 PM

> Subject: Re: Gut Pain Cause?

>

>  

> Hello, I'm sorry you're having so many issues, I'm going to throw in my 2

cents here FWIW. I would eliminate the gummy vitamins and the soy...soy is

horrible, ecspecially for boys

>

[Guest guest]

I've always been under the impression -- that it disrupt testosterone levels in

boys -- due to the estrogen mimicking effect. Essentially, feeding boys soy

formula is like giving them birth control pills.

Also, feeding them soy also increases the maturation process. Which can give

little boys thyroid problems, (along with a whole host of issues. Like inability

to reproduce when he is older, he's only 3)

The information is out there -- lots of articles, google " boys and soy milk " --

I did this when my son was young because he had such feeding issues. I did soy

for a couple of weeks, and then I read that, and found other substitutes (not

that it helped much). Soy is found in a LOT of things -- especially processed

foods. So it's really hard to stay away from.

On the advice of one of the members here, I switched him from a soy containing

Cod Liver Oil to a non soy one. I haven't noticed any difference, but my guess

would be that I wouldn't necessarily see anything significant. However, just

because you can't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there...

laura

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>

>  Why?

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>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 7:53:28 PM

> Subject: Re: Gut Pain Cause?

>

>  

> Hello, I'm sorry you're having so many issues, I'm going to throw in my 2

cents here FWIW. I would eliminate the gummy vitamins and the soy...soy is

horrible, ecspecially for boys

>

[Guest guest]

It may not cause me any problems.I use it exclusively since I went off dairy.As you know,I had/have serious problems with sexual development,I am probably sterile,and have never had any desires in that area.The most recent tests I have had prove undervirilization,

but not hypogonadism.It looks like I have an androgen receptor defect.

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 1:15:55 PMSubject: Re: Gut Pain Cause?

I've always been under the impression -- that it disrupt testosterone levels in boys -- due to the estrogen mimicking effect. Essentially, feeding boys soy formula is like giving them birth control pills. Also, feeding them soy also increases the maturation process. Which can give little boys thyroid problems, (along with a whole host of issues. Like inability to reproduce when he is older, he's only 3)The information is out there -- lots of articles, google "boys and soy milk" -- I did this when my son was young because he had such feeding issues. I did soy for a couple of weeks, and then I read that, and found other substitutes (not that it helped much). Soy is found in a LOT of things -- especially processed foods. So it's really hard to stay away from. On the advice of one of the members here, I switched him from a soy containing Cod Liver Oil to a non soy one. I haven't noticed any difference, but my guess would be that I

wouldn't necessarily see anything significant. However, just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there...laura >> > Why?> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> From: "shimmery315@ ..." <shimmery315@ ...>> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com> Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 7:53:28 PM> Subject: Re: Gut Pain Cause?> > > Hello, I'm sorry you're having so many issues, I'm going to throw in my 2 cents here FWIW. I would eliminate the gummy vitamins and the

soy...soy is horrible, ecspecially for boys>

[Guest guest]

It may not cause me any problems.I use it exclusively since I went off dairy.As you know,I had/have serious problems with sexual development,I am probably sterile,and have never had any desires in that area.The most recent tests I have had prove undervirilization,

but not hypogonadism.It looks like I have an androgen receptor defect.

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 1:15:55 PMSubject: Re: Gut Pain Cause?

I've always been under the impression -- that it disrupt testosterone levels in boys -- due to the estrogen mimicking effect. Essentially, feeding boys soy formula is like giving them birth control pills. Also, feeding them soy also increases the maturation process. Which can give little boys thyroid problems, (along with a whole host of issues. Like inability to reproduce when he is older, he's only 3)The information is out there -- lots of articles, google "boys and soy milk" -- I did this when my son was young because he had such feeding issues. I did soy for a couple of weeks, and then I read that, and found other substitutes (not that it helped much). Soy is found in a LOT of things -- especially processed foods. So it's really hard to stay away from. On the advice of one of the members here, I switched him from a soy containing Cod Liver Oil to a non soy one. I haven't noticed any difference, but my guess would be that I

wouldn't necessarily see anything significant. However, just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there...laura >> > Why?> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> From: "shimmery315@ ..." <shimmery315@ ...>> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com> Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 7:53:28 PM> Subject: Re: Gut Pain Cause?> > > Hello, I'm sorry you're having so many issues, I'm going to throw in my 2 cents here FWIW. I would eliminate the gummy vitamins and the

soy...soy is horrible, ecspecially for boys>

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It may not cause me any problems.I use it exclusively since I went off dairy.As you know,I had/have serious problems with sexual development,I am probably sterile,and have never had any desires in that area.The most recent tests I have had prove undervirilization,

but not hypogonadism.It looks like I have an androgen receptor defect.

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 1:15:55 PMSubject: Re: Gut Pain Cause?

I've always been under the impression -- that it disrupt testosterone levels in boys -- due to the estrogen mimicking effect. Essentially, feeding boys soy formula is like giving them birth control pills. Also, feeding them soy also increases the maturation process. Which can give little boys thyroid problems, (along with a whole host of issues. Like inability to reproduce when he is older, he's only 3)The information is out there -- lots of articles, google "boys and soy milk" -- I did this when my son was young because he had such feeding issues. I did soy for a couple of weeks, and then I read that, and found other substitutes (not that it helped much). Soy is found in a LOT of things -- especially processed foods. So it's really hard to stay away from. On the advice of one of the members here, I switched him from a soy containing Cod Liver Oil to a non soy one. I haven't noticed any difference, but my guess would be that I

wouldn't necessarily see anything significant. However, just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there...laura >> > Why?> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> From: "shimmery315@ ..." <shimmery315@ ...>> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com> Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 7:53:28 PM> Subject: Re: Gut Pain Cause?> > > Hello, I'm sorry you're having so many issues, I'm going to throw in my 2 cents here FWIW. I would eliminate the gummy vitamins and the

soy...soy is horrible, ecspecially for boys>

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rogar many of us moms on here had done a survey as well as on gfcf kids I think it was and perhaps chelating kids about our drive and many said they had next to none. it may have something to do with immune burn out and body in survival mode amoung many other things like EFAS being off ect or low nutrients as we many times have the same issues as our kids. LDN made a huge difference for me, and antiinflammatories. I have heard things like progesteren over the years help many as hormons can be off as well

Re: Gut Pain Cause?> > > Hello, I'm sorry you're having so many issues, I'm going to throw in my 2 cents here FWIW. I would eliminate the gummy vitamins and the soy...soy is horrible, ecspecially for boys>

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rogar many of us moms on here had done a survey as well as on gfcf kids I think it was and perhaps chelating kids about our drive and many said they had next to none. it may have something to do with immune burn out and body in survival mode amoung many other things like EFAS being off ect or low nutrients as we many times have the same issues as our kids. LDN made a huge difference for me, and antiinflammatories. I have heard things like progesteren over the years help many as hormons can be off as well

Re: Gut Pain Cause?> > > Hello, I'm sorry you're having so many issues, I'm going to throw in my 2 cents here FWIW. I would eliminate the gummy vitamins and the soy...soy is horrible, ecspecially for boys>

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Bethanecol will help w/ eye stims, constipation and malabsorption..Sent from my iPhone

Don't worry the constipation eventually goes away,then the malabsorption starts...

From: like I need one <kittyndave>To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 9:58:50 AMSubject: Re: Gut Pain Cause?

Hi all,My son is ASD and 4 1/2. We dealt with constipation pretty regulary for A LONG TIME (from 1 to 4 ). The only thing that really helped was vit c and magnesium but that was really hard to get the right dose. We finally gave in and tried Miralax and it has been great for us! We're also doing SCD and raisins are very hard to digest and ALWAYS made him constipated. Also from what I understand Vit. D can be constipating. I know everyone says horrible things about Miralax but having regular bm's has really helped my DS come along developmentally. We plan on using it until his bowel muscle have been retrained. Just a thought, I know that DS situation is different but I thought the info may be helpfulKitty mom to 4 & 1/2 ASD, SCD since 07/08 & NT with gut issues, SCD since 07/08> > >> > > Hi everyone,> >

> My almost 3yo and I are relatively new to the bio-medical

approach.> > Before we began using bio-medical treatments, back in November 2009, > > would have been characterized as HFA and generally happy. He whined when he> > didn;t get what he wanted, but he was happy. He remained this way on the> > bio-med approach until about a week or two ago when he started being grumpy> > all the time. I think he is experiencing gastro-intestinal pain, but he is> > not yet able to tell me. He cries frequently, wants to be held all the time,> > and sometimes wants you to hit his stomach. He went from interest in potty> > training and asking us to take him to the bathroom to screaming at the> > thought of the toilet. A toe-walker from way back, he is even higher on his> > toes these days. He sometimes has huge bowel movements (literally over a> > foot long) and his last two large movements have had visible blood.

The> > first one showed enough blood for me to have to wipe it away from his anus.> > While he experienced some constipation before bio-med it was never this bad> > and he was never in obvious pain.> > > Can you guys help me troubleshoot what we are doing? I'm so afraid that I> > am hurting rather than helping him. The fact that we haven't seen any major> > improvements (except in the amount that he eats) with bio-med yet isn't> > helping my frustration. Any advice would be really appreciated.> > >> > > Here is what we have been doing:> > > GFCF since November 2009 (no noticeable improvement with GF)> > > MB12 Subcutaneous shots since January 2010> > > Trienza since February 2010> > > Vitamin D3 1000 IU since October 2009> > > Switched from Rice Milk to Soy/Hemp milk due to allergy February

2010> > > Gummy vitamins (since forever - waiting for our DRN vitamins to arrive)> > > Epsom Salt baths since last week (seemed really happy when he would get> > in for the first few days, today he didn't cheer at all)> > > Zinc since February> > > Zantac since he was 3 months old> > > We gave him Miralax (total of 3 tablespoons over two days) before I read> > how bad it was for our kids - He was in pain before the Miralax> > >> > > He eats mostly protein (lately trying to down select from meat to fat -> > it's pretty gross) and carbs (trying to expand his diet - zinc has made him> > eat more, but not different foods). We give him plenty of raisins,> > applesauce and juice to try to balance it out.> > >> > > To be clear, this doesn't appear to be a regression. He still has his> >

skills and is learning. This is a physical problem. We're doing some tests> > prescribed by his DAN! to check his gut function, but it will take weeks to> > address it. We've been to a regular gastro and his suggestion was Miralax.> > Can anyone provide any leads on this to help us get to the root of the> > problem. Does Trienza ever cause gastro problems? We thought it was> > constipating the first time we tried it. What else could it be?> > >> > > Thanks in advance (and sorry for the really long post).> > > > > >> >> > > >>