Re: Awake

[Guest guest]

Hi Mike,

I really need some help advocating for my 2 little boys..I started the

process but can already tell this is not going to be easy considering my

school district seems to be working harder at putting up barriers for me to

hurdle rather than helping my children....

I could surely use any advice you have to offer.....

I'm a Stay At Home Mom in Southern New Jersey

Sincerely,

[ ] awake

I would like to know if any of you have heard this quote by Pete

which

was printed in the Winchester Star today - 11/29/03

Although some parents use professional advocates at IEP meetings — people

hired to procure services for a child — Hurt, at The Arc NSV, and the

s

discourage it, as do schools.

(Most of my Advocacy is volunteered)

It was also Backed up By Lana Hurt, who has refereed parents to me. I have

worked very hard over the past two years to build a respected Advocacy in

this

area and have been encouraged by two of the three school systems in these

articles to continue my work. In addition the Winchester Star will not

print

letters I send in or when referred to me by parents - will not contact me

for

similar articles. It astounds me that Pete would make a comment like

this

to the Winchester Star, especially due to Pete supplying a good bit of my

training and acknowledging that the average parent cannot always have the

time or

ability to do all this alone. This will make it even harder for those I

work

with in certain SDs. This kind of one sided reporting causes harm to those

who can least afford it. Some of the Parents I work with, work 12 hour

shifts,

are single, have more than one child-some adopted, and work most of their

time

to supply a safe environment for their children. Still others work for our

National Government and work on call several days at a time.

Mike Savory

Awak(e)A_dvocacy

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Hi Lynn, I'm up too! My husband went hunting this weekend, so I am alone with my daughter who is already sleeping. I should be in bed too, but I am always finding things to do when I should be sleeping. I am really sorry to hear about all this pain you are in. I had no idea it would be so painful. What did she have to do to fix the inversions? I wouldn't imagine that she would have to cut too much, would she? Maybe a teeny tiny incision? I sure hope your pain subsides quickly with the ice and the pain meds. Pain makes it hard to think about anything else, I am sure, but the more you think about it, the more it bothers you! Try to change your meditative focus on other pleasant things for awhile....like a beautiful spot you visited--try to recall every detail in your mind of what made it so beautiful, and maybe you will be able to forget the pain and fall asleep

again! Hugs, PattyLynn <spinkscl@...> wrote: Hi ladies, I am wide awake. The vicodin wore off and the pain woke me up - as well as my hubby's snoring. I just took another and I am trying to get sleepy again. Lynda, I have never had anything done with my nipples before - do you know how long the severe pain will last? Perhaps I

should call tomorrow? She said the pain would be minimal and to call her if it was bad. I may be a big wuss but this is honestly much worse than the explant and I can still feel pain even with vicodin. I decided to put some ice on them as well, thought I could numb it a bit. It helps a very very very tiny bit. I am praying that I am not going to kick my self in the butt because once again I did something in the name of vanity! I was trying to think of it more as part of the explant and finishing up getting those sick toxic bombs out of me. Talk to you all tomorrow as I am sure nobody is crazy enough to be up at this hour but me. Hugs, Lynn

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Hi Patty,

I will try that, great idea.

I tried not to watch but it seemed that there was a lot of cutting. I am am bandaged up now and can't see them but I know they put a lot of stitches in too. It took more than an hour.

It is the worst sort of burning pain. Feels like my nipples are on fire.

I hope you get to bed soon! Thanks so much for responding though. I have been reading the Mercola site and some frightening information on that dang Lupron shot I got! He says it causes irreversible neurological damage - just WONDERFUL!!

I know knowledge is power but somethings are just depressing and I would rather not know. What I don't know won't hurt me or cause me more anxiety.

Someday if there is a class law suit on Lupron, I will join! I think that drug has got to be the worst thing - besides implants - that I ever allowed in my body.

Hugs, Lynn

Re: Awake

Hi Lynn,

I'm up too! My husband went hunting this weekend, so I am alone with my daughter who is already sleeping. I should be in bed too, but I am always finding things to do when I should be sleeping.

I am really sorry to hear about all this pain you are in. I had no idea it would be so painful. What did she have to do to fix the inversions? I wouldn't imagine that she would have to cut too much, would she? Maybe a teeny tiny incision? I sure hope your pain subsides quickly with the ice and the pain meds.

Pain makes it hard to think about anything else, I am sure, but the more you think about it, the more it bothers you! Try to change your meditative focus on other pleasant things for awhile....like a beautiful spot you visited--try to recall every detail in your mind of what made it so beautiful, and maybe you will be able to forget the pain and fall asleep again!

Hugs,

PattyLynn <spinkscl (DOT) com> wrote:

Hi ladies,

I am wide awake. The vicodin wore off and the pain woke me up - as well as my hubby's snoring. I just took another and I am trying to get sleepy again.

Lynda, I have never had anything done with my nipples before - do you know how long the severe pain will last? Perhaps I should call tomorrow? She said the pain would be minimal and to call her if it was bad. I may be a big wuss but this is honestly much worse than the explant and I can still feel pain even with vicodin.

I decided to put some ice on them as well, thought I could numb it a bit. It helps a very very very tiny bit. I am praying that I am not going to kick my self in the butt because once again I did something in the name of vanity! I was trying to think of it more as part of the explant and finishing up getting those sick toxic bombs out of me.

Talk to you all tomorrow as I am sure nobody is crazy enough to be up at this hour but me.

Hugs, Lynn

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Lynn, I know it has got to be quite unsettling about the Lupron. I hear ya on sometimes just not wanting to know!! Darn those doctors and their stupid ideas! But try not to think about it....getting anxious about something you can't reverse won't get you anywhere anyway, and will do more damage than good. Just put it behind you and move on. You may not ever have to deal with it again, and I hope that will be the case. If you don't have any neurological issues, then don't stress on it, or you will start imagining them! I think you are going to be okay and heal well from this experience. Your healing has been pretty significant so far, and that is encouraging. Just give it time, you know the score. It's a healing journey, never a cake walk! But someday, there will be cake again! Patty Lynn <spinkscl@...> wrote: Hi Patty, I will try that, great idea. I tried not to watch but it seemed that there was a lot of cutting. I am am bandaged up now and can't see them but I know they put a lot of stitches in too. It took more than an hour. It is the worst sort of burning pain. Feels like my nipples are on fire. I hope you get to bed soon! Thanks so much for responding though. I have been reading the Mercola site and some frightening information on that dang Lupron shot I got! He says it causes irreversible neurological damage - just WONDERFUL!! I know knowledge is power but somethings are just depressing and I would rather not know. What I don't know won't hurt me or cause me more anxiety. Someday if there is a class law suit on Lupron, I will join! I think that drug has got to be the worst thing - besides implants - that I ever allowed in my body. Hugs, Lynn Re: Awake Hi Lynn, I'm up too! My husband went hunting this weekend, so I am alone with my daughter who is already sleeping. I should be in bed too, but I am always finding things to do when I should be sleeping. I am really sorry to hear about all this pain you are in. I had no idea it would be so painful. What did she have to do to fix the inversions? I wouldn't imagine that she would have to cut too much, would she? Maybe a teeny tiny incision? I sure hope your pain subsides quickly with the ice and the pain meds. Pain makes it hard to think about anything else, I am sure, but the more you think about it, the more it bothers you! Try to change your meditative focus on other pleasant things for awhile....like a

beautiful spot you visited--try to recall every detail in your mind of what made it so beautiful, and maybe you will be able to forget the pain and fall asleep again! Hugs, PattyLynn <spinkscl (DOT) com> wrote: Hi ladies, I am wide awake. The vicodin wore off and the pain woke me up - as well as my hubby's snoring. I just took another and I am trying to get sleepy again. Lynda, I have never had anything done with my nipples before - do you know how long the severe pain will last? Perhaps I should call tomorrow? She said the pain would be minimal and to call her if it was bad. I may be a big wuss but this is honestly much worse than the explant

and I can still feel pain even with vicodin. I decided to put some ice on them as well, thought I could numb it a bit. It helps a very very very tiny bit. I am praying that I am not going to kick my self in the butt because once again I did something in the name of vanity! I was trying to think of it more as part of the explant and finishing up getting those sick toxic bombs out of me. Talk to you all tomorrow as I am sure nobody is crazy enough to be up at this hour but me. Hugs, Lynn Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel

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Morning Lynn ~

I am sorry you are having so much pain. I hope

by the time you read this, the pain is more

under control.

When you have breast surgery it can make

the nerves hypersensitive, and that may just

be why.

I hope you got some sleep finally, and the

pain meds kicked in !

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Lynn ~

My father had lupron for 3 months before his

prostrate surgery, 10 years ago, and he is 80,

and doing well. Please dont worry about that

darn drug, just dont have any more !

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Hello Ms ~

Sounds like you are having some nerves

endings wake up ! This too will get better.

You may have some very strange sensations

during it all, but they will get better.

Glad you got your drains out, means you

are healing well. God Bless YOU !

Have a beautiful day !

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Lynn ~

I do it toooooooo ! I think it is our nature !

Just need reminding that worrying makes

us wrinkle, and our adrenals fatigued !

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Patty,

You are so wonderful. That you for the positive post.

It is about 7:00 now and I did go back to bed and slept better. ut now I have a kink in my neck because I had to sleep really wierd. That is okay though, so far they feel better this morning (knock on wood).

Hugs, Lynn

Re: Awake

Hi Lynn,

I'm up too! My husband went hunting this weekend, so I am alone with my daughter who is already sleeping. I should be in bed too, but I am always finding things to do when I should be sleeping.

I am really sorry to hear about all this pain you are in. I had no idea it would be so painful. What did she have to do to fix the inversions? I wouldn't imagine that she would have to cut too much, would she? Maybe a teeny tiny incision? I sure hope your pain subsides quickly with the ice and the pain meds.

Pain makes it hard to think about anything else, I am sure, but the more you think about it, the more it bothers you! Try to change your meditative focus on other pleasant things for awhile....like a beautiful spot you visited--try to recall every detail in your mind of what made it so beautiful, and maybe you will be able to forget the pain and fall asleep again!

Hugs,

PattyLynn <spinkscl (DOT) com> wrote:

Hi ladies,

I am wide awake. The vicodin wore off and the pain woke me up - as well as my hubby's snoring. I just took another and I am trying to get sleepy again.

Lynda, I have never had anything done with my nipples before - do you know how long the severe pain will last? Perhaps I should call tomorrow? She said the pain would be minimal and to call her if it was bad. I may be a big wuss but this is honestly much worse than the explant and I can still feel pain even with vicodin.

I decided to put some ice on them as well, thought I could numb it a bit. It helps a very very very tiny bit. I am praying that I am not going to kick my self in the butt because once again I did something in the name of vanity! I was trying to think of it more as part of the explant and finishing up getting those sick toxic bombs out of me.

Talk to you all tomorrow as I am sure nobody is crazy enough to be up at this hour but me.

Hugs, Lynn

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Lynn,

Hopefully you are sleeping again. I did not sleep well, and am up very early.

I don't know how long the pain will last, but I do know there are

lots of nerve endings near the nipples. That is what is causing the pain.

I would call if the pain is still bad.

Please do not kick yourself for feeling the need to look normal.

Lynda

At 01:08 AM 9/15/2007, you wrote:

>Hi ladies,

>

>I am wide awake. The vicodin wore off and the pain woke me up - as

>well as my hubby's snoring. I just took another and I am trying to

>get sleepy again.

>

>Lynda, I have never had anything done with my nipples before - do

>you know how long the severe pain will last? Perhaps I should call

> tomorrow? She said the pain would be minimal and to call her

>if it was bad. I may be a big wuss but this is honestly much worse

>than the explant and I can still feel pain even with vicodin.

>

>I decided to put some ice on them as well, thought I could numb it a

>bit. It helps a very very very tiny bit. I am praying that I am

>not going to kick my self in the butt because once again I did

>something in the name of vanity! I was trying to think of it more

>as part of the explant and finishing up getting those sick toxic

>bombs out of me.

>

>Talk to you all tomorrow as I am sure nobody is crazy enough to be

>up at this hour but me.

>

>Hugs, Lynn

>

[Guest guest]

Patty,

What are you doing up at that hour? You need your rest!

I was probably awake, but not up. Having a bit of trouble sleeping right now.

Lynda

At 01:48 AM 9/15/2007, you wrote:

>Hi Lynn,

>I'm up too! My husband went hunting this

>weekend, so I am alone with my daughter who is

>already sleeping. I should be in bed too, but I

>am always finding things to do when I should be sleeping.

>

>I am really sorry to hear about all this pain

>you are in. I had no idea it would be so

>painful. What did she have to do to fix the

>inversions? I wouldn't imagine that she would

>have to cut too much, would she? Maybe a teeny

>tiny incision? I sure hope your pain subsides

>quickly with the ice and the pain meds.

>

>Pain makes it hard to think about anything else,

>I am sure, but the more you think about it, the

>more it bothers you! Try to change your

>meditative focus on other pleasant things for

>awhile....like a beautiful spot you visited--try

>to recall every detail in your mind of what made

>it so beautiful, and maybe you will be able to

>forget the pain and fall asleep again!

>Hugs,

>Patty

>

>Lynn <spinkscl@...> wrote:

>Hi ladies,

>

>I am wide awake. The vicodin wore off and the

>pain woke me up - as well as my hubby's

>snoring. I just took another and I am trying to get sleepy again.

>

>Lynda, I have never had anything done with my

>nipples before - do you know how long the severe

>pain will last? Perhaps I should call

>tomorrow? She said the pain would be minimal

>and to call her if it was bad. I may be a big

>wuss but this is honestly much worse than the

>explant and I can still feel pain even with vicodin.

>

>I decided to put some ice on them as well,

>thought I could numb it a bit. It helps a very

>very very tiny bit. I am praying that I am not

>going to kick my self in the butt because once

>again I did something in the name of vanity! I

>was trying to think of it more as part of the

>explant and finishing up getting those sick toxic bombs out of me.

>

>Talk to you all tomorrow as I am sure nobody is

>crazy enough to be up at this hour but me.

>

>Hugs, Lynn

>

>

>

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Lynn,

Try not to focus on the side effects of

lupron. I had a shot of it in 1972, and did not

have long-term problems. I think that the right

diet will reverse most neurological

stuff. Nerves can take a long time to heal. Just be patient.

As to your nipples, the huge amount of nerve

endings that make nipples sensitive also make

them more painful with cut around. They will heal.

Lynda

At 01:56 AM 9/15/2007, you wrote:

>Hi Patty,

>

>I will try that, great idea.

>

>I tried not to watch but it seemed that there

>was a lot of cutting. I am am bandaged up now

>and can't see them but I know they put a lot of

>stitches in too. It took more than an hour.

>

>It is the worst sort of burning pain. Feels like my nipples are on fire.

>

>I hope you get to bed soon! Thanks so much for

>responding though. I have been reading the

>Mercola site and some frightening information on

>that dang Lupron shot I got! He says it causes

>irreversible neurological damage - just WONDERFUL!!

>

>I know knowledge is power but somethings are

>just depressing and I would rather not

>know. What I don't know won't hurt me or cause me more anxiety.

>

>Someday if there is a class law suit on Lupron,

>I will join! I think that drug has got to be

>the worst thing - besides implants - that I ever allowed in my body.

>

>Hugs, Lynn

>

> Re: Awake

>

>Hi Lynn,

>I'm up too! My husband went hunting this

>weekend, so I am alone with my daughter who is

>already sleeping. I should be in bed too, but I

>am always finding things to do when I should be sleeping.

>

>I am really sorry to hear about all this pain

>you are in. I had no idea it would be so

>painful. What did she have to do to fix the

>inversions? I wouldn't imagine that she would

>have to cut too much, would she? Maybe a teeny

>tiny incision? I sure hope your pain subsides

>quickly with the ice and the pain meds.

>

>Pain makes it hard to think about anything else,

>I am sure, but the more you think about it, the

>more it bothers you! Try to change your

>meditative focus on other pleasant things for

>awhile....like a beautiful spot you visited--try

>to recall every detail in your mind of what made

>it so beautiful, and maybe you will be able to

>forget the pain and fall asleep again!

>Hugs,

>Patty

>

>Lynn <spinkscl (DOT) com> wrote:

>Hi ladies,

>

>I am wide awake. The vicodin wore off and the

>pain woke me up - as well as my hubby's

>snoring. I just took another and I am trying to get sleepy again.

>

>Lynda, I have never had anything done with my

>nipples before - do you know how long the severe

>pain will last? Perhaps I should call

>tomorrow? She said the pain would be minimal

>and to call her if it was bad. I may be a big

>wuss but this is honestly much worse than the

>explant and I can still feel pain even with vicodin.

>

>I decided to put some ice on them as well,

>thought I could numb it a bit. It helps a very

>very very tiny bit. I am praying that I am not

>going to kick my self in the butt because once

>again I did something in the name of vanity! I

>was trying to think of it more as part of the

>explant and finishing up getting those sick toxic bombs out of me.

>

>Talk to you all tomorrow as I am sure nobody is

>crazy enough to be up at this hour but me.

>

>Hugs, Lynn

>

>

>

>Be a better Globetrotter.

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Lynda,

I am sorry your are in so much pain too. I told Dr. Huang your broke your foot. She was concerned. She talked about how sweet and good of a person you are.

Thank you for the kind words, they really help. About the Lurpon too. I am sure millions of women/men have had it and each person reacts differently. From what I have read, Dr. Mercola doesn't like may RX drugs so maybe he just really intense about not liking this one. I must admit, his comments were quite alarming. I wanted to question him but couldn't figure how to.

Lynn

Re: Awake

Lynn,Hopefully you are sleeping again. I did not sleep well, and am up very early.I don't know how long the pain will last, but I do know there are lots of nerve endings near the nipples. That is what is causing the pain.I would call if the pain is still bad.Please do not kick yourself for feeling the need to look normal.LyndaAt 01:08 AM 9/15/2007, you wrote:>Hi ladies,>>I am wide awake. The vicodin wore off and the pain woke me up - as >well as my hubby's snoring. I just took another and I am trying to >get sleepy again.>>Lynda, I have never had anything done with my nipples before - do >you know how long the severe pain will last? Perhaps I should call > tomorrow? She said the pain would be minimal and to call her >if it was bad. I may be a big wuss but this is honestly much worse >than the explant and I can still

feel pain even with vicodin.>>I decided to put some ice on them as well, thought I could numb it a >bit. It helps a very very very tiny bit. I am praying that I am >not going to kick my self in the butt because once again I did >something in the name of vanity! I was trying to think of it more >as part of the explant and finishing up getting those sick toxic >bombs out of me.>>Talk to you all tomorrow as I am sure nobody is crazy enough to be >up at this hour but me.>>Hugs, Lynn>

[Guest guest]

Lynda, honey, how is your foot? I have been worring about you because it looked so swollen. I have not read any emails yet, but I too have been up since 5AM. I have to see my doctor this moring for my B12 shot, and I have to have more bloodwork done.

Do you think that you will need surgery, we pray that you do will not? When I broke my ankle in four places, my foot looked a bit like yours. They used an epadural to repair it. That ankle is better than my right, but what will the screws and the plate do later on!

Yesterday, I did not use a lader because after seeing your foot, I was extra careful. It put me in bed for the day, but this work has to be done if I am going to have surgery. The next big job will be the yard, but I hope that will help me with that.

Honey, please take care of yourself, we all love you so....Lea

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`````

Re: Awake

Lynn,Hopefully you are sleeping again. I did not sleep well, and am up very early.I don't know how long the pain will last, but I do know there are lots of nerve endings near the nipples. That is what is causing the pain.I would call if the pain is still bad.Please do not kick yourself for feeling the need to look normal.LyndaAt 01:08 AM 9/15/2007, you wrote:>Hi ladies,>>I am wide awake. The vicodin wore off and the pain woke me up - as >well as my hubby's snoring. I just took another and I am trying to >get sleepy again.>>Lynda, I have never had anything done with my nipples before - do >you know how long the severe pain will last? Perhaps I should call > tomorrow? She said the pain would be minimal and to call her >if it was bad. I may be a big wuss but this is honestly much worse >than the explant and I can still feel pain even with vicodin.>>I decided to put some ice on them as well, thought I could numb it a >bit. It helps a very very very tiny bit. I am praying that I am >not going to kick my self in the butt because once again I did >something in the name of vanity! I was trying to think of it more >as part of the explant and finishing up getting those sick toxic >bombs out of me.>>Talk to you all tomorrow as I am sure nobody is crazy enough to be >up at this hour but me.>>Hugs, Lynn>

[Guest guest]

Lea,

As of now, the word is that I get a cast put on it on Tues, and no

surgery. It hurts, I just took a pain pill. I hate to take any

medication, so you know it hurts.

I know you think you need to do this work and push yourself, but I

wonder who would die if you did not do it???? I think sometimes we

push ourselves too much.

Please be careful and don't push too much. We all love you.

Lynda

At 07:17 AM 9/15/2007, you wrote:

>Lynda, honey, how is your foot? I have been worring about you

>because it looked so swollen. I have not read any emails yet, but I

>too have been up since 5AM. I have to see my doctor this moring for

>my B12 shot, and I have to have more bloodwork done.

>

>Do you think that you will need surgery, we pray that you do will

>not? When I broke my ankle in four places, my foot looked a bit like

>yours. They used an epadural to repair it. That ankle is better than

>my right, but what will the screws and the plate do later on!

>

>Yesterday, I did not use a lader because after seeing your foot, I

>was extra careful. It put me in bed for the day, but this work has

>to be done if I am going to have surgery. The next big job will be

>the yard, but I hope that will help me with that.

>

>Honey, please take care of yourself, we all love you so....Lea

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`````

> Re: Awake

>

>Lynn,

>

>Hopefully you are sleeping again. I did not sleep well, and am up very early.

>

>I don't know how long the pain will last, but I do know there are

>lots of nerve endings near the nipples. That is what is causing the pain.

>

>I would call if the pain is still bad.

>

>Please do not kick yourself for feeling the need to look normal.

>

>Lynda

>

>At 01:08 AM 9/15/2007, you wrote:

>

> >Hi ladies,

> >

> >I am wide awake. The vicodin wore off and the pain woke me up - as

> >well as my hubby's snoring. I just took another and I am trying to

> >get sleepy again.

> >

> >Lynda, I have never had anything done with my nipples before - do

> >you know how long the severe pain will last? Perhaps I should call

> > tomorrow? She said the pain would be minimal and to call her

> >if it was bad. I may be a big wuss but this is honestly much worse

> >than the explant and I can still feel pain even with vicodin.

> >

> >I decided to put some ice on them as well, thought I could numb it a

> >bit. It helps a very very very tiny bit. I am praying that I am

> >not going to kick my self in the butt because once again I did

> >something in the name of vanity! I was trying to think of it more

> >as part of the explant and finishing up getting those sick toxic

> >bombs out of me.

> >

> >Talk to you all tomorrow as I am sure nobody is crazy enough to be

> >up at this hour but me.

> >

> >Hugs, Lynn

> >

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Lynda, I know, I know!!! I have been doing this quite often lately and every single time I kick my self the next day, as I know my adrenals need that sleep! I think I am a workaholic. I've have so many projects going on at once....I revived a geneaology project recently after reading a book called "Mayflower" (I love history), and decided I need to create a book to hand down to my kids. My great-grandfather and great uncle ( Lathrop Kennan) both wrote geneaological narratives that trace our roots back to the Pilgrims and beyond. It's interesting to me, but my husband is like, "Who cares!!!" I need to work on and finish another book I began as well. If I am ever up too late again and you catch me, Lynda, scold me!!! LOL I hope you weren't up because of pain. Are you taking any meds right

now or toughing it out? PattyLynda Roth <coss@...> wrote: Patty,What are you doing up at that hour? You need your rest!I was probably awake, but not up. Having a bit of trouble sleeping right now.LyndaAt 01:48 AM 9/15/2007, you wrote:>Hi Lynn,>I'm up too! My husband went hunting this >weekend, so I am alone with my daughter who is >already sleeping. I should be in bed too, but I >am always finding things to do when I should be sleeping.>>I

am really sorry to hear about all this pain >you are in. I had no idea it would be so >painful. What did she have to do to fix the >inversions? I wouldn't imagine that she would >have to cut too much, would she? Maybe a teeny >tiny incision? I sure hope your pain subsides >quickly with the ice and the pain meds.>>Pain makes it hard to think about anything else, >I am sure, but the more you think about it, the >more it bothers you! Try to change your >meditative focus on other pleasant things for >awhile....like a beautiful spot you visited--try >to recall every detail in your mind of what made >it so beautiful, and maybe you will be able to >forget the pain and fall asleep again!>Hugs,>Patty>>Lynn <spinkscl > wrote:>Hi ladies,>>I am wide awake. The vicodin wore

off and the >pain woke me up - as well as my hubby's >snoring. I just took another and I am trying to get sleepy again.>>Lynda, I have never had anything done with my >nipples before - do you know how long the severe >pain will last? Perhaps I should call >tomorrow? She said the pain would be minimal >and to call her if it was bad. I may be a big >wuss but this is honestly much worse than the >explant and I can still feel pain even with vicodin.>>I decided to put some ice on them as well, >thought I could numb it a bit. It helps a very >very very tiny bit. I am praying that I am not >going to kick my self in the butt because once >again I did something in the name of vanity! I >was trying to think of it more as part of the >explant and finishing up getting those sick toxic bombs out of me.>>Talk to you all tomorrow as I am sure

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Ladies, Me and my daughter julie were up at 5:00 this morning as well. Last night was not the night for sleeping I guess. I got my drains out yesterday and I can't decide if it hurts worse nowor before they were pulled out. The pain is not a horrible pain, just one of those annoying pains that come and go. I'm finally able to sleep on my sides again, thank God, but everytime I roll over it hurts for a minute, just long enough to wake me up. At least I'm not snagging those drains anymore, there's nothing like forgetting about them in your sleep and laying on them and trying to roll the other direction, ouch!!! Well, I pray Dede, Lea, and Patty are feeling well today and Lynda's foot will heal quickly without surgery and

Sandy, Lynn, Traci, and continue to heal nicely and that all of the new women just joining the group learn everything they need from the group to survive and I pray for all of the women I've forgotten by name and last, but not least I pray for Our Rogene for what would any of us do without her? God bless all of you in your own special way !!! Love, Lynda Roth <coss@...> wrote: Patty,What are you doing up at that hour? You need your rest!I was probably awake, but not up. Having a bit of trouble sleeping right now.LyndaAt 01:48 AM 9/15/2007, you wrote:>Hi Lynn,>I'm up too! My husband went hunting this >weekend, so I am alone

with my daughter who is >already sleeping. I should be in bed too, but I >am always finding things to do when I should be sleeping.>>I am really sorry to hear about all this pain >you are in. I had no idea it would be so >painful. What did she have to do to fix the >inversions? I wouldn't imagine that she would >have to cut too much, would she? Maybe a teeny >tiny incision? I sure hope your pain subsides >quickly with the ice and the pain meds.>>Pain makes it hard to think about anything else, >I am sure, but the more you think about it, the >more it bothers you! Try to change your >meditative focus on other pleasant things for >awhile....like a beautiful spot you visited--try >to recall every detail in your mind of what made >it so beautiful, and maybe you will be able to >forget the pain and fall asleep

again!>Hugs,>Patty>>Lynn wrote:>Hi ladies,>>I am wide awake. The vicodin wore off and the >pain woke me up - as well as my hubby's >snoring. I just took another and I am trying to get sleepy again.>>Lynda, I have never had anything done with my >nipples before - do you know how long the severe >pain will last? Perhaps I should call >tomorrow? She said the pain would be minimal >and to call her if it was bad. I may be a big >wuss but this is honestly much worse than the >explant and I can still feel pain even with vicodin.>>I decided to put some ice on them as well, >thought I could numb it a bit. It helps a very >very very tiny bit. I am praying that I am not >going to kick my self in the butt because once >again I did something in the name of vanity! I >was trying to think of it

more as part of the >explant and finishing up getting those sick toxic bombs out of me.>>Talk to you all tomorrow as I am sure nobody is >crazy enough to be up at this hour but me.>>Hugs, Lynn>>>>Be a better Globetrotter. >Get >better travel answers from someone who knows.> Answers - Check it out.>

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Patty,

My sister traced my mother's side to the Pilgrims. My dad's side is

from Europe, German, Danish and English. My mother's is Irish and

Dutch, but we have a Drinkwater in the family, who must be Native

American. In the 1600's.

But, not at 1:00 A.M. I think sleep is more important. Unless you

can always sleep until 8 or 9 in the morning, and I know you can't.

I actually have taken some pain pills or I would be too grouchy to

live with. They seem to keep me awake at night, however, so did not

take any at night after the first night. I did take some tylenol

last night, did not help. Still did not sleep well. I hate pain

meds, anyway, but I am not too enamored at being in a lot of pain either.

The morning is the hardest for pain right now, don't know why.

I am just so disgusted that I have to deal with this crap. I have

things to do. I do not like being handicapped. In fact, I hate

it. And my body is so sore from the jolt of hitting cement, that I

desperately need a massage. But, it is too hard to get around to go

get one. Catch 22.

I wish I could go back to bed and sleep, but in the daytime, I can

seldom do that. I have to be pretty sick to sleep in the

daytime. So, hopefully tonight, I will actually sleep. And

hopefully, you will be in bed before 1:00 A.M??????????

Lynda

At 08:00 AM 9/15/2007, you wrote:

>Lynda,

>I know, I know!!! I have been doing this quite often lately and

>every single time I kick my self the next day, as I know my adrenals

>need that sleep! I think I am a workaholic.

>

>I've have so many projects going on at once....I revived a

>geneaology project recently after reading a book called " Mayflower "

>(I love history), and decided I need to create a book to hand down

>to my kids. My great-grandfather and great uncle ( Lathrop

>Kennan) both wrote geneaological narratives that trace our roots

>back to the Pilgrims and beyond. It's interesting to me, but my

>husband is like, " Who cares!!! "

>

>I need to work on and finish another book I began as well.

>

>If I am ever up too late again and you catch me, Lynda, scold me!!! LOL

>

>I hope you weren't up because of pain. Are you taking any meds

>right now or toughing it out?

>Patty

>

>Lynda Roth <coss@...> wrote:

>Patty,

>

>What are you doing up at that hour? You need your rest!

>

>I was probably awake, but not up. Having a bit of trouble sleeping right now.

>

>Lynda

>

>At 01:48 AM 9/15/2007, you wrote:

>

> >Hi Lynn,

> >I'm up too! My husband went hunting this

> >weekend, so I am alone with my daughter who is

> >already sleeping. I should be in bed too, but I

> >am always finding things to do when I should be sleeping.

> >

> >I am really sorry to hear about all this pain

> >you are in. I had no idea it would be so

> >painful. What did she have to do to fix the

> >inversions? I wouldn't imagine that she would

> >have to cut too much, would she? Maybe a teeny

> >tiny incision? I sure hope your pain subsides

> >quickly with the ice and the pain meds.

> >

> >Pain makes it hard to think about anything else,

> >I am sure, but the more you think about it, the

> >more it bothers you! Try to change your

> >meditative focus on other pleasant things for

> >awhile....like a beautiful spot you visited--try

> >to recall every detail in your mind of what made

> >it so beautiful, and maybe you will be able to

> >forget the pain and fall asleep again!

> >Hugs,

> >Patty

> >

> >Lynn <<mailto:spinkscl%40>spinkscl@...> wrote:

> >Hi ladies,

> >

> >I am wide awake. The vicodin wore off and the

> >pain woke me up - as well as my hubby's

> >snoring. I just took another and I am trying to get sleepy again.

> >

> >Lynda, I have never had anything done with my

> >nipples before - do you know how long the severe

> >pain will last? Perhaps I should call

> >tomorrow? She said the pain would be minimal

> >and to call her if it was bad. I may be a big

> >wuss but this is honestly much worse than the

> >explant and I can still feel pain even with vicodin.

> >

> >I decided to put some ice on them as well,

> >thought I could numb it a bit. It helps a very

> >very very tiny bit. I am praying that I am not

> >going to kick my self in the butt because once

> >again I did something in the name of vanity! I

> >was trying to think of it more as part of the

> >explant and finishing up getting those sick toxic bombs out of me.

> >

> >Talk to you all tomorrow as I am sure nobody is

> >crazy enough to be up at this hour but me.

> >

> >Hugs, Lynn

> >

> >

> >

> >Be a better Globetrotter.

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Lynn,

I think that Dr. Mercola does tend to exaggerate a bit at times,

looking at the worst scenario. Not that he is wrong, but balance is

always a good thing.

Huang is very sweet, she has been so good in the past to come

to conferences and speak and educate women. Even to Australia when I

helped put on conferences there, and she paid her own way. I just

think she is a wonderful person and a very wonderful surgeon.

I will email her and tell her that my foot will heal, like most

things, just a major annoyance that will turn into a minor one in a

month or so.

Lynda

At 07:11 AM 9/15/2007, you wrote:

>Lynda,

>

>I am sorry your are in so much pain too. I told Dr. Huang your

>broke your foot. She was concerned. She talked about how sweet and

>good of a person you are.

>

>Thank you for the kind words, they really help. About the Lurpon

>too. I am sure millions of women/men have had it and each person

>reacts differently. From what I have read, Dr. Mercola doesn't like

>may RX drugs so maybe he just really intense about not liking this

>one. I must admit, his comments were quite alarming. I wanted to

>question him but couldn't figure how to.

>

>Lynn

>

> Re: Awake

>

>Lynn,

>

>Hopefully you are sleeping again. I did not sleep well, and am up very early.

>

>I don't know how long the pain will last, but I do know there are

>lots of nerve endings near the nipples. That is what is causing the pain.

>

>I would call if the pain is still bad.

>

>Please do not kick yourself for feeling the need to look normal.

>

>Lynda

>

>At 01:08 AM 9/15/2007, you wrote:

>

> >Hi ladies,

> >

> >I am wide awake. The vicodin wore off and the pain woke me up - as

> >well as my hubby's snoring. I just took another and I am trying to

> >get sleepy again.

> >

> >Lynda, I have never had anything done with my nipples before - do

> >you know how long the severe pain will last? Perhaps I should call

> > tomorrow? She said the pain would be minimal and to call her

> >if it was bad. I may be a big wuss but this is honestly much worse

> >than the explant and I can still feel pain even with vicodin.

> >

> >I decided to put some ice on them as well, thought I could numb it a

> >bit. It helps a very very very tiny bit. I am praying that I am

> >not going to kick my self in the butt because once again I did

> >something in the name of vanity! I was trying to think of it more

> >as part of the explant and finishing up getting those sick toxic

> >bombs out of me.

> >

> >Talk to you all tomorrow as I am sure nobody is crazy enough to be

> >up at this hour but me.

> >

> >Hugs, Lynn

> >

>

>

>

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It's a deal Lynda. Let's both get a good night's rest tonight! PattyLynda Roth <coss@...> wrote: Patty,My sister traced my mother's side to the Pilgrims. My dad's side is from Europe, German, Danish and English. My mother's is Irish and Dutch, but we have a Drinkwater in the family, who must be Native American. In the 1600's.But, not at 1:00 A.M. I think sleep is more important. Unless you can always sleep until 8 or 9 in the morning, and I know you can't.I actually have taken

some pain pills or I would be too grouchy to live with. They seem to keep me awake at night, however, so did not take any at night after the first night. I did take some tylenol last night, did not help. Still did not sleep well. I hate pain meds, anyway, but I am not too enamored at being in a lot of pain either.The morning is the hardest for pain right now, don't know why.I am just so disgusted that I have to deal with this crap. I have things to do. I do not like being handicapped. In fact, I hate it. And my body is so sore from the jolt of hitting cement, that I desperately need a massage. But, it is too hard to get around to go get one. Catch 22.I wish I could go back to bed and sleep, but in the daytime, I can seldom do that. I have to be pretty sick to sleep in the daytime. So, hopefully tonight, I will actually sleep. And hopefully, you will be in bed before 1:00

A.M??????????LyndaAt 08:00 AM 9/15/2007, you wrote:>Lynda,>I know, I know!!! I have been doing this quite often lately and >every single time I kick my self the next day, as I know my adrenals >need that sleep! I think I am a workaholic.>>I've have so many projects going on at once....I revived a >geneaology project recently after reading a book called "Mayflower" >(I love history), and decided I need to create a book to hand down >to my kids. My great-grandfather and great uncle ( Lathrop >Kennan) both wrote geneaological narratives that trace our roots >back to the Pilgrims and beyond. It's interesting to me, but my >husband is like, "Who cares!!!">>I need to work on and finish another book I began as well.>>If I am ever up too late again and you catch me, Lynda, scold me!!! LOL>>I hope you weren't up because of

pain. Are you taking any meds >right now or toughing it out?>Patty>>Lynda Roth <cossprivatei> wrote:>Patty,>>What are you doing up at that hour? You need your rest!>>I was probably awake, but not up. Having a bit of trouble sleeping right now.>>Lynda>>At 01:48 AM 9/15/2007, you wrote:>> >Hi Lynn,> >I'm up too! My husband went hunting this> >weekend, so I am alone with my daughter who is> >already sleeping. I should be in bed too, but I> >am always finding things to do when I should be sleeping.> >> >I am really sorry to hear about all this pain> >you are in. I had no idea it would be so> >painful. What did she have to do to fix the> >inversions? I wouldn't imagine that she would> >have to cut too much, would she?

Maybe a teeny> >tiny incision? I sure hope your pain subsides> >quickly with the ice and the pain meds.> >> >Pain makes it hard to think about anything else,> >I am sure, but the more you think about it, the> >more it bothers you! Try to change your> >meditative focus on other pleasant things for> >awhile....like a beautiful spot you visited--try> >to recall every detail in your mind of what made> >it so beautiful, and maybe you will be able to> >forget the pain and fall asleep again!> >Hugs,> >Patty> >> >Lynn <<mailto:spinkscl%40>spinkscl > wrote:> >Hi ladies,> >> >I am wide awake. The vicodin wore off and the> >pain woke me up - as well as my hubby's> >snoring. I just took another and I am

trying to get sleepy again.> >> >Lynda, I have never had anything done with my> >nipples before - do you know how long the severe> >pain will last? Perhaps I should call > >tomorrow? She said the pain would be minimal> >and to call her if it was bad. I may be a big> >wuss but this is honestly much worse than the> >explant and I can still feel pain even with vicodin.> >> >I decided to put some ice on them as well,> >thought I could numb it a bit. It helps a very> >very very tiny bit. I am praying that I am not> >going to kick my self in the butt because once> >again I did something in the name of vanity! I> >was trying to think of it more as part of the> >explant and finishing up getting those sick toxic bombs out of me.> >> >Talk to you all tomorrow as I am sure nobody is> >crazy

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Thanks Dede! I know I shouldn't but I read crap and my mind takes off with it - real stupid.

Love, Lynn

Re: Awake

Lynn ~

My father had lupron for 3 months before his

prostrate surgery, 10 years ago, and he is 80,

and doing well. Please dont worry about that

darn drug, just dont have any more !

Love Dede

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Hey Lynn, Your'e normal!! That's what women do! We're all pros at it. I can't tell you the number of times my imagination has run off on me when I start to worry. Mostly it is with my kids,but I found that all women do this about all kinds of things! Last weekend up at the Utah cabin, my husband and daughter had gone off into the woods for the day, and was due back around dinner time. Dinner time came and went. No sign of them. In a matter of about a half an hour, I had myself going from completely happy and carefree to thinking I was a widow, financially destitute, struggling to care for my now fatherless son, wondering how I was going to survive and get through such an awful mess as the death of my husband and daughter. For crying out loud! I was sure glad to see them drive up when they finally did. I hate it when I do that!!!! So, you're normal on the one hand, but STOP! You'll be fine! PattyLynn <spinkscl@...> wrote: Thanks Dede! I know I shouldn't but I read crap and my mind takes off with it - real stupid. Love, Lynn Re: Awake Lynn ~ My father had lupron for 3 months before his prostrate surgery, 10 years ago, and he is 80, and doing well. Please dont worry about that darn drug, just dont have any more ! Love

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Lynda,

Please do because at the time I didn't know if you would need surgery or not. I told her I was praying for no surgery.

She is wonderful. Her surg tech Carne (SP?) and I were talking about the inverted nipples. I said that I could have lived with them but my husband hated them and Dr. Huang wasn't too fond either. She said it is because Dr. Huang is a perfectionist and likes the results of her surgery to be the best they can. Both of them were in awe about how good the nipples came out. I haven't seen them yet but I am excited to see the results.

I applaud you for being able to go without painkillers. There would have been no way in heck I could have with this nipple pain. I honestly thought if the med didn't kick in that I might have to go to the hospital. I typically see myself as pretty tolerant to pain, in fact the lidocain was wearing off when they were stitching me up and I could feel it but I didn't say a word because I was ready to be finished.

I am wondering for those who had their implants in through their nipples how long it took to heal.

I hope you feel better today.

Lynn

Re: Awake>>Lynn,>>Hopefully you are sleeping again. I did not sleep well, and am up very early.>>I don't know how long the pain will last, but I do know there are>lots of nerve

endings near the nipples. That is what is causing the pain.>>I would call if the pain is still bad.>>Please do not kick yourself for feeling the need to look normal.>>Lynda>>At 01:08 AM 9/15/2007, you wrote:>> >Hi ladies,> >> >I am wide awake. The vicodin wore off and the pain woke me up - as> >well as my hubby's snoring. I just took another and I am trying to> >get sleepy again.> >> >Lynda, I have never had anything done with my nipples before - do> >you know how long the severe pain will last? Perhaps I should call> > tomorrow? She said the pain would be minimal and to call her> >if it was bad. I may be a big wuss but this is honestly much worse> >than the explant and I can still feel pain even with vicodin.> >> >I decided to put some ice on them as well,

thought I could numb it a> >bit. It helps a very very very tiny bit. I am praying that I am> >not going to kick my self in the butt because once again I did> >something in the name of vanity! I was trying to think of it more> >as part of the explant and finishing up getting those sick toxic> >bombs out of me.> >> >Talk to you all tomorrow as I am sure nobody is crazy enough to be> >up at this hour but me.> >> >Hugs, Lynn> >>>>

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Lynda, We're related!!! LOL It's funny. As I was doing this geneaology, the sheer number of names that kept branching off that I had to input int my software program was staggering. I almost just threw up my hands and decided, "We're all related to each other! What's the point!" We've got German, English, Irish, Czechoslovakian, and with my kids I've added in Native American (Ojibway Indian), Arabian, and my son married a Korean girl. My grandkids will be a big ethnic jumble! LOLPatty Lynda Roth <coss@...> wrote: Patty,My sister traced my mother's side to the Pilgrims. My dad's side is from Europe, German, Danish and English. My mother's is Irish and Dutch, but we have a Drinkwater in the family, who must be Native American. In the 1600's.But, not at 1:00 A.M. I think sleep is more important. Unless you can always sleep until 8 or 9 in the morning, and I know you can't.I actually have taken some pain pills or I would be too grouchy to live with. They seem to keep me awake at night, however, so did not take any at night after the first night. I did take some tylenol last night, did not help. Still did not sleep well. I hate pain meds, anyway, but I am not too enamored at being in a lot of pain either.The morning is the hardest for pain right now, don't know why.I am just so disgusted that I have to deal

with this crap. I have things to do. I do not like being handicapped. In fact, I hate it. And my body is so sore from the jolt of hitting cement, that I desperately need a massage. But, it is too hard to get around to go get one. Catch 22.I wish I could go back to bed and sleep, but in the daytime, I can seldom do that. I have to be pretty sick to sleep in the daytime. So, hopefully tonight, I will actually sleep. And hopefully, you will be in bed before 1:00 A.M??????????LyndaAt 08:00 AM 9/15/2007, you wrote:>Lynda,>I know, I know!!! I have been doing this quite often lately and >every single time I kick my self the next day, as I know my adrenals >need that sleep! I think I am a workaholic.>>I've have so many projects going on at once....I revived a >geneaology project recently after reading a book called "Mayflower" >(I love history), and decided I need

to create a book to hand down >to my kids. My great-grandfather and great uncle ( Lathrop >Kennan) both wrote geneaological narratives that trace our roots >back to the Pilgrims and beyond. It's interesting to me, but my >husband is like, "Who cares!!!">>I need to work on and finish another book I began as well.>>If I am ever up too late again and you catch me, Lynda, scold me!!! LOL>>I hope you weren't up because of pain. Are you taking any meds >right now or toughing it out?>Patty>>Lynda Roth <cossprivatei> wrote:>Patty,>>What are you doing up at that hour? You need your rest!>>I was probably awake, but not up. Having a bit of trouble sleeping right now.>>Lynda>>At 01:48 AM 9/15/2007, you wrote:>> >Hi Lynn,> >I'm up too! My

husband went hunting this> >weekend, so I am alone with my daughter who is> >already sleeping. I should be in bed too, but I> >am always finding things to do when I should be sleeping.> >> >I am really sorry to hear about all this pain> >you are in. I had no idea it would be so> >painful. What did she have to do to fix the> >inversions? I wouldn't imagine that she would> >have to cut too much, would she? Maybe a teeny> >tiny incision? I sure hope your pain subsides> >quickly with the ice and the pain meds.> >> >Pain makes it hard to think about anything else,> >I am sure, but the more you think about it, the> >more it bothers you! Try to change your> >meditative focus on other pleasant things for> >awhile....like a beautiful spot you visited--try> >to recall every detail in your mind of what

made> >it so beautiful, and maybe you will be able to> >forget the pain and fall asleep again!> >Hugs,> >Patty> >> >Lynn <<mailto:spinkscl%40>spinkscl > wrote:> >Hi ladies,> >> >I am wide awake. The vicodin wore off and the> >pain woke me up - as well as my hubby's> >snoring. I just took another and I am trying to get sleepy again.> >> >Lynda, I have never had anything done with my> >nipples before - do you know how long the severe> >pain will last? Perhaps I should call > >tomorrow? She said the pain would be minimal> >and to call her if it was bad. I may be a big> >wuss but this is honestly much worse than the> >explant and I can still feel pain even with vicodin.> >> >I decided

to put some ice on them as well,> >thought I could numb it a bit. It helps a very> >very very tiny bit. I am praying that I am not> >going to kick my self in the butt because once> >again I did something in the name of vanity! I> >was trying to think of it more as part of the> >explant and finishing up getting those sick toxic bombs out of me.> >> >Talk to you all tomorrow as I am sure nobody is> >crazy enough to be up at this hour but me.> >> >Hugs, Lynn> >> >> >> >Be a better Globetrotter.> ><<http://us.rd./evt=48254/*http://answers./dir/_y >

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Patty, When I do meditative thinking, I invision places I've never seen before. Mountains with snow beside a beach with palm trees. Meditation is great and you can go anywhere and see anything. It's my way of blocking out worries about the past due bills and my resentments toward people that have offended me, mostly people in the medical field. I've been using meditation for my pain since surgery. I think that's why I haven't had to take much pain medication. I only took 7 pills out of a bottle of 30. I still hurt from time to time, but not enough to take anything, it's just annoying pains. Take care of yourself. Love Tricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: Hi Lynn, I'm up too! My husband went hunting this weekend, so I am alone with my daughter who is already sleeping. I should be in bed too, but I am always finding things to do when I should be sleeping. I am really sorry to hear about all this pain you are in. I had no idea it would be so painful. What did she have to do to fix the inversions? I wouldn't imagine that she

would have to cut too much, would she? Maybe a teeny tiny incision? I sure hope your pain subsides quickly with the ice and the pain meds. Pain makes it hard to think about anything else, I am sure, but the more you think about it, the more it bothers you! Try to change your meditative focus on other pleasant things for awhile....like a beautiful spot you visited--try to recall every detail in your mind of what made it so beautiful, and maybe you will be able to forget the pain and fall asleep again! Hugs, PattyLynn <spinkscl@...> wrote: Hi ladies, I am wide awake. The vicodin wore off and the pain

woke me up - as well as my hubby's snoring. I just took another and I am trying to get sleepy again. Lynda, I have never had anything done with my nipples before - do you know how long the severe pain will last? Perhaps I should call tomorrow? She said the pain would be minimal and to call her if it was bad. I may be a big wuss but this is honestly much worse than the explant and I can still feel pain even with vicodin. I decided to put some ice on them as well, thought I could numb it a bit. It helps a very very very tiny bit. I am praying that I am not going to kick my self in the butt because once again I did something in the name of vanity! I was trying to think of it more as part of the explant and finishing up getting those sick toxic bombs out of me. Talk to you all tomorrow as I am sure nobody is crazy enough to be up

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