Guest guest Posted February 1, 2000 Report Share Posted February 1, 2000 The Mafia came to power as an illegal organization when alcohol was prohibited in this country Pete...as Alcohol is now legal in the good ol' USA, I don't believe that the Seagram's company engages in drive by shootings with the Jack s company... Obviously legalizing of street drugs would defund the gangs and illegal organizations that now supply customers. These organizations would vanish... As would the need to police such organizations, thereby resulting in the need for a smaller police force, thereby resulting in: BINGO! less tax dollars needed... I think police corruption in the form of bribes and payoffs would vanish or diminish too.. prices would drop radically..would more people try drugs if they were legalized? I think so maybe intitially....not sure about this point.. .. --- Pete Watts wrote: > > What I find staggering anout America is that the > biggest - or only - > opposition to right-wing groups appear to be other > right-wing groups > extreme in a different way. I was struck by a > documentary on the Waco > massacre which showed the Congressional hearings, > and the Demcocrats > looked authoritarian and the Republicans reasonable. > > God Bless America... and Save the Rest of Us from > it. > > Pete > > P.S. Private companies do make war - theyre called > the Mafia. > > " tommy perkins " wrote: > original > article:/group/12-step-free/?start=12007 > > mike kraemer wrote: > > original > article:/group/12-step-free/?start=120 > 04 > > > well I guess i am conservative fiscally and > liberal on > > > social issues... > > > > It's called Libertarian; you mentioned Harry > Browne on one of your > > early posts. Actually, Pete, both the Democrats > and the Republicans* > > are in bed with the Tharapeutic State, which > includes XA. The > > Libertarian Party is the only party that advocates > the separation of > > state and medicine. As the third largest party in > the U.S. they were > > denied participation in the presidential campaign > debates by the > > " private " media. The media is also in bed with > the Therapeutic > State. > > The U.S. government is the most corrupt and > dangerous institution on > > the planet. > > > > *When I was forced to go to AA meetings Reagan was > president and > > Dole was Secretary of Transpotation, > under which the Coast > > Guard falls. > > > > Dole raped my soul. > > > > Tommy > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Want to send money instantly to anyone, anywhere, > anytime? > You can today at X.com - and we'll give you $20 to > try it! Sign > up today at X.com. It's quick, free, & there's no > obligation! > http://click./1/332/1/_/4324/_/949100042/ > > -- Create a poll/survey for your group! > -- > /vote?listname=12-step-free & m=1 > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2000 Report Share Posted February 1, 2000 Hello Mike I could chew the fat over politics but, as I have indicated, I wouldnt want it to be a divisive force here. This should not be interpreted as indicating that I do not have answers to what you say below. I will answer regarding the WoD, as otherwise ppl may infer incorrectly that I was defending it. I believe that, as with most things, the Dutch handle the drugs problem the best, and would handle it even better if they were not hamstringed by international agreements reached partly as a result of American political domination. mike kraemer wrote: original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=12237 > The Mafia came to power as an illegal organization > when alcohol was prohibited in this country Pete...as > Alcohol is now legal in the good ol' USA, I don't > believe that the Seagram's company engages in drive by > shootings with the Jack s company... > > Obviously legalizing of street drugs would defund the > gangs and illegal organizations that now supply > customers. These organizations would vanish... > > As would the need to police such organizations, > thereby resulting in the need for a smaller police > force, thereby resulting in: BINGO! less tax dollars > needed... > > I think police corruption in the form of bribes and > payoffs would vanish or diminish too.. > > prices would drop radically..would more people try > drugs if they were legalized? I think so maybe > intitially....not sure about this point.. > . > --- Pete Watts wrote: > > > > What I find staggering anout America is that the > > biggest - or only - > > opposition to right-wing groups appear to be other > > right-wing groups > > extreme in a different way. I was struck by a > > documentary on the Waco > > massacre which showed the Congressional hearings, > > and the Demcocrats > > looked authoritarian and the Republicans reasonable. > > > > God Bless America... and Save the Rest of Us from > > it. > > > > Pete > > > > P.S. Private companies do make war - theyre called > > the Mafia. > > > > " tommy perkins " wrote: > > original > > > article:/group/12-step-free/?start=12007 > > > mike kraemer wrote: > > > original > > > article:/group/12-step-free/?start=120 > > 04 > > > > well I guess i am conservative fiscally and > > liberal on > > > > social issues... > > > > > > It's called Libertarian; you mentioned Harry > > Browne on one of your > > > early posts. Actually, Pete, both the Democrats > > and the Republicans* > > > are in bed with the Tharapeutic State, which > > includes XA. The > > > Libertarian Party is the only party that advocates > > the separation of > > > state and medicine. As the third largest party in > > the U.S. they were > > > denied participation in the presidential campaign > > debates by the > > > " private " media. The media is also in bed with > > the Therapeutic > > State. > > > The U.S. government is the most corrupt and > > dangerous institution on > > > the planet. > > > > > > *When I was forced to go to AA meetings Reagan was > > president and > > > Dole was Secretary of Transpotation, > > under which the Coast > > > Guard falls. > > > > > > Dole raped my soul. > > > > > > Tommy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2000 Report Share Posted February 2, 2000 ok.......this is probably not a good forum for political debate anyway, although if you want to talk or debate about it we could do so by personal e-mail to e-mail. Sincerely Mike --- Pete Watts wrote: > > Hello Mike > > I could chew the fat over politics but, as I have > indicated, I wouldnt > want it to be a divisive force here. This should not > be interpreted as > indicating that I do not have answers to what you > say below. I will > answer regarding the WoD, as otherwise ppl may infer > incorrectly that I > was defending it. I believe that, as with most > things, the Dutch > handle the drugs problem the best, and would handle > it even better if > they were not hamstringed by international > agreements reached partly as > a result of American political domination. > > > > mike kraemer wrote: > original > article:/group/12-step-free/?start=12237 > > The Mafia came to power as an illegal organization > > when alcohol was prohibited in this country > Pete...as > > Alcohol is now legal in the good ol' USA, I don't > > believe that the Seagram's company engages in > drive by > > shootings with the Jack s company... > > > > Obviously legalizing of street drugs would defund > the > > gangs and illegal organizations that now supply > > customers. These organizations would vanish... > > > > As would the need to police such organizations, > > thereby resulting in the need for a smaller police > > force, thereby resulting in: BINGO! less tax > dollars > > needed... > > > > I think police corruption in the form of bribes > and > > payoffs would vanish or diminish too.. > > > > prices would drop radically..would more people try > > drugs if they were legalized? I think so maybe > > intitially....not sure about this point.. > > . > > --- Pete Watts wrote: > > > > > > What I find staggering anout America is that the > > > biggest - or only - > > > opposition to right-wing groups appear to be > other > > > right-wing groups > > > extreme in a different way. I was struck by a > > > documentary on the Waco > > > massacre which showed the Congressional > hearings, > > > and the Demcocrats > > > looked authoritarian and the Republicans > reasonable. > > > > > > God Bless America... and Save the Rest of Us > from > > > it. > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > P.S. Private companies do make war - theyre > called > > > the Mafia. > > > > > > " tommy perkins " > wrote: > > > original > > > > > > article:/group/12-step-free/?start=12007 > > > > mike kraemer wrote: > > > > original > > > > > > article:/group/12-step-free/?start=120 > > > 04 > > > > > well I guess i am conservative fiscally and > > > liberal on > > > > > social issues... > > > > > > > > It's called Libertarian; you mentioned Harry > > > Browne on one of your > > > > early posts. Actually, Pete, both the > Democrats > > > and the Republicans* > > > > are in bed with the Tharapeutic State, which > > > includes XA. The > > > > Libertarian Party is the only party that > advocates > > > the separation of > > > > state and medicine. As the third largest > party in > > > the U.S. they were > > > > denied participation in the presidential > campaign > > > debates by the > > > > " private " media. The media is also in bed > with > > > the Therapeutic > > > State. > > > > The U.S. government is the most corrupt and > > > dangerous institution on > > > > the planet. > > > > > > > > *When I was forced to go to AA meetings Reagan > was > > > president and > > > > Dole was Secretary of Transpotation, > > > under which the Coast > > > > Guard falls. > > > > > > > > Dole raped my soul. > > > > > > > > Tommy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > If you took Podimin™, Redux®, or the combination > " Fen-Phen, " > visit the OFFICIAL site. Request the Court > authorized notice package > explaining your rights under the class settlement. > http://click./1/833/1/_/4324/_/949448225/ > > eGroups.com Home: > /group/12-step-free/ > - Simplifying group > communications > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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