Re: Sensitive teeth and Flouride toothpaste

[Guest guest]

No, that is not deep root scaling that I was referring to needing. I've had the

sand blasting done twice, and I didn't think it was that bad. The first time was

worse than the second.

Deep root scaling is almost a surgical procedure. They numb half of your mouth

at a time. Although it is a very common procedure, it is also very painful.

Also, it takes ALOT of novacaine to numb me. I've been sent home from the

dentist because they had administered the maximum amount of novacaine they could

administer in a 24 hour period. They told me to come back another day and not

have any caffiene before I came in.

I had nothing to lose by trying the fragaria, and everything to gain in my

opinion. And I did.

Kathy

---- De Bell-Frantz <deshabell@...> wrote:

> i had scaling done- if thats what you call ultrasonic cleaning for early

> gum disease, etc. rather like sand blasting, and my teeth have been

> horribly sensitive ever since. i don't recommend it1 nak as usual

>

> desh

[Guest guest]

is Floride toothpaste safe to use for teeth or is it poison or toxic?

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[Guest guest]

--- jerry marsden <jemark76@...> wrote:

> is Floride toothpaste safe to use for teeth or is it poison or toxic?

Jerry,

The amount of fluoride in toothpaste isn't likely to kill you anytime

soon, but it does add to your toxic burden and in some situations

could be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

You can read all of the input for this thread under the

web page for the message. This was my previous input:

/message/95231

Books have been written on this subject:

" The Fluoride Deception "

http://www.amazon.com/Fluoride-Deception--Bryson/dp/1583227008/ref=pd\

_bbs_1?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1195310676 & sr=1-1

[Guest guest]

Thanks, , I am going to order that book.

I have recently started brushing my teeth with natural bar soap (Kiss My

Face olive oil soap) and just got some Perfect Prescription Tooth Soap in

the mail. I like it! My teeth feel unbelievably clean -- just like I had a

cleaning at the dentist's.

I'm taking CLO and liver supplements and eating a WAP diet now -- so we'll

see how my teeth do. I have a lot of fillings and have had 2 root canals --

so I'll be very happy if my teeth improve.

One question, can anyone recommend a good filter that will remove fluoride

from the water? I have been looking around online. (I'd rather not spend

$1500 if I can help it).

Ann Marie

On Nov 17, 2007 6:48 AM, <oz4caster@...> wrote:

> --- jerry marsden <jemark76@...> wrote:

> > is Floride toothpaste safe to use for teeth or is it poison or toxic?

>

> Jerry,

>

> The amount of fluoride in toothpaste isn't likely to kill you anytime

> soon, but it does add to your toxic burden and in some situations

> could be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

>

> You can read all of the input for this thread under the

> web page for the message. This was my previous input:

> /message/95231

>

> Books have been written on this subject:

> " The Fluoride Deception "

>

>

http://www.amazon.com/Fluoride-Deception--Bryson/dp/1583227008/ref=pd\

_bbs_1?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1195310676 & sr=1-1

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

--- Ann Marie, inasnit@... wrote:

> One question, can anyone recommend a good filter that will remove

> fluoride from the water? I have been looking around online. (I'd

> rather not spend $1500 if I can help it).

Ann Marie,

You should be able to get a fluoride/chlorine water filter for under

$300. Here's a link with more info, including links to vendors:

http://chemistry.about.com/od/chemistryhowtoguide/a/removefluoride.htm

I haven't been shopping for one since we've had an under-counter R/O

system for about 12 years now and it still works fine.

[Guest guest]

> > One question, can anyone recommend a good filter that will remove

> > fluoride from the water? I have been looking around online. (I'd

> > rather not spend $1500 if I can help it).

>

> Ann Marie,

>

> You should be able to get a fluoride/chlorine water filter for under

> $300. Here's a link with more info, including links to vendors:

> http://chemistry.about.com/od/chemistryhowtoguide/a/removefluoride.htm

>

> I haven't been shopping for one since we've had an under-counter R/O

> system for about 12 years now and it still works fine.

>

>

>

I bought an under the counter RO filter from ebay for like $130

shipped and it works great. It was from

http://www.aquasafecanada.com .

-

[Guest guest]

You can see an interview with the author here, where he talks pretty

extensively about what's in the book:

video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7319752042352089988

BTW, I met Connett, the interviewer in the video - he's a very

entertaining speaker. He had a quote, " Drinking fluoride to prevent

cavities is like eating condoms to prevent pregnancy "

I believe the biggest threat of fluoride intake (and it can be

absorbed through the gums, too) is the way it displaces iodine and

can cause iodine depletion in important areas like breast tissue, the

heart, etc. Actually there was an interesting thread here months ago

that iodine applied to the teeth would prevent cavities for 3

months. Makes you think about the treasured foods of the natives

Price noticed - many of them were high-iodine.

> > is Floride toothpaste safe to use for teeth or is it poison or

toxic?

>

> Jerry,

>

> The amount of fluoride in toothpaste isn't likely to kill you

anytime

> soon, but it does add to your toxic burden and in some situations

> could be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

>

> You can read all of the input for this thread under the

> web page for the message. This was my previous

input:

> /message/95231

>

> Books have been written on this subject:

> " The Fluoride Deception "

> http://www.amazon.com/Fluoride-Deception--

Bryson/dp/1583227008/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1195310676 & sr=1-

1

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

<<The amount of fluoride in toothpaste isn't likely to kill you anytime

soon, but it does add to your toxic burden and in some situations

could be the straw that breaks the camel's back.>>

,

Thanks for putting it so well. I have a child who is 11 with an Aspergers

diagnosis who coasted quite well through the first 9 years of his life, or so we

thought... until one day he got sick with some upper respiratory infection.

After that, he developed excercise induced asthma and I was so ignorant back

then... we went to ER and were given an Albuterol inhaler.

Long story short, that was our straw that broke the camel's back. Life has been

a nightmare since trying to recover him, he became violent and hyperactive and

basically unable to function. I don't mean to carry on, but I now understand

that in certain sensitive individuals, the straw can and does come. For them,

reducing the toxic load is no small matter. Fortunately, a year and a half of

dietary and assorted other interventions is " bringing him back " slowly and the

asthma and allergies are completely gone.

Millie

[Guest guest]

On 11/18/07, haecklers <haecklers@...> wrote:

> I believe the biggest threat of fluoride intake (and it can be

> absorbed through the gums, too) is the way it displaces iodine and

> can cause iodine depletion in important areas like breast tissue, the

> heart, etc. Actually there was an interesting thread here months ago

> that iodine applied to the teeth would prevent cavities for 3

> months. Makes you think about the treasured foods of the natives

> Price noticed - many of them were high-iodine.

According to Phyllys Mullenix, new research is showing that fluoride

combines with aluminum to form a phosphate mimic that interferes with

all the major cellular receptors, and the effect takes place at a much

lower dose than the one needed to have a substantial effect competing

with iodine.

Chris

[Guest guest]

Wow, thanks for that - very enlightening! It explains much about Dr.

Waldbott's work with the fluoride sensitive people. I wonder what

makes some so much more sensitive to it than others? I've been

thinking it was iodine deficiency.

>

> > I believe the biggest threat of fluoride intake (and it can be

> > absorbed through the gums, too) is the way it displaces iodine and

> > can cause iodine depletion in important areas like breast tissue,

the

> > heart, etc. Actually there was an interesting thread here months

ago

> > that iodine applied to the teeth would prevent cavities for 3

> > months. Makes you think about the treasured foods of the natives

> > Price noticed - many of them were high-iodine.

>

> According to Phyllys Mullenix, new research is showing that fluoride

> combines with aluminum to form a phosphate mimic that interferes

with

> all the major cellular receptors, and the effect takes place at a

much

> lower dose than the one needed to have a substantial effect

competing

> with iodine.

>

> Chris

>

[Guest guest]

On 11/18/07, haecklers <haecklers@...> wrote:

> Wow, thanks for that - very enlightening! It explains much about Dr.

> Waldbott's work with the fluoride sensitive people. I wonder what

> makes some so much more sensitive to it than others? I've been

> thinking it was iodine deficiency.

The effect on iodine competition is probably going to happen at much

lower doses if there is an overt iodine deficiency, and basically the

severity of the effect and the level of the dose required (inversely)

should be proportionate to the amount of iodine in the diet. This

other effect, I would presume, should be exacerbated by aluminum

levels. So all of us have *some* aluminum and it therefore can begin

happening at very low doses of fluoride, but if we have a real lot of

aluminum, I imagine that you'd get a much bigger effect at those same

low doses.

Chris

[Guest guest]

I came across this tooth paste recipe recently and have been meaning to see what

you all think of it:

>>>It's easy to make your own natural toothpaste! These instructions are

especially useful if you are trying to minimize exposure to fluoride, such as

for children or people who already have fluorosis. It's sugar-free and

non-toxic.

Difficulty: Easy

Time Required: Minutes

Here's How:

1.. Mix three parts baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) with one part table salt

(sodium chloride).

2.. Add three teaspoons of glycerine for every 1/4 cup of dry mixture.

3.. Add enough water to make a thick paste. If desired, a few drops of

peppermint, cinnamon, or clove oil may be added to improve the taste.

4.. Apply and use just as you would any other toothpaste. Store unused

toothpaste at room temperature in a covered container.<<<<<<<<<<<<

I haven't tried this yet. I thought the salt might be a little harsh on the

gums but the glycerine might make it more like regular tooth paste.

What do you all think?

What about adding the hydrogen peroxide?

- Eli ()

Re: Sensitive teeth and Flouride toothpaste

Posted by: " Cody " lecody2001@... lecody2001

Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:01 am (PST)

I think that the whitening agent in some toothpastes is Hydrogen peroxide [3%]

and the cleaning agent in many is baking soda so you can make your own paste

daily by just mixing the two. No flouride. If you need some serious cleaning you

can add a little salt but I would not brush hard especially hitting the gumline

if you do that.

C.

[Guest guest]

I am not 100% sure, but I think that you should add the peroxide as you use it.

I believe that the peroxide is kept separate from the rest of the paste and only

comes together as you squeeze it out. Perhaps you could just dip your

toothbrush in peroxide and then add the paste you make.

laura c.

Re: Sensitive teeth and Flouride toothpaste

I came across this tooth paste recipe recently and have been meaning to see what

you all think of it:

>>>It's easy to make your own natural toothpaste! These instructions are

especially useful if you are trying to minimize exposure to fluoride, such as

for children or people who already have fluorosis. It's sugar-free and

non-toxic.

Difficulty: Easy

Time Required: Minutes

Here's How:

1.. Mix three parts baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) with one part table salt

(sodium chloride).

2.. Add three teaspoons of glycerine for every 1/4 cup of dry mixture.

3.. Add enough water to make a thick paste. If desired, a few drops of

peppermint, cinnamon, or clove oil may be added to improve the taste.

4.. Apply and use just as you would any other toothpaste. Store unused

toothpaste at room temperature in a covered container.<< <<<<<<<<< <

I haven't tried this yet. I thought the salt might be a little harsh on the gums

but the glycerine might make it more like regular tooth paste.

What do you all think?

What about adding the hydrogen peroxide?

- Eli ()

Re: Sensitive teeth and Flouride toothpaste

Posted by: " Cody " lecody2001 (DOT) com lecody2001

Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:01 am (PST)

I think that the whitening agent in some toothpastes is Hydrogen peroxide [3%]

and the cleaning agent in many is baking soda so you can make your own paste

daily by just mixing the two. No flouride. If you need some serious cleaning you

can add a little salt but I would not brush hard especially hitting the gumline

if you do that.

C.

[Guest guest]

I read on this or the Discuss NT forums before about toothsoap. There

is a website in regards to it and they mention that Glycerine is a bad

thing to be adding to toothpaste. The claim was that it actually

attracts stuff to your teeth that we are trying to not have hence our

brushing, and takes up to X amount of brushings w/o glycerine to even

remove the glycerine from your teeth. Also i thought it said it

prevented remineraliztion from happening among other things.

>

> I came across this tooth paste recipe recently and have been meaning

to see what you all think of it:

>

>> 2.. Add three teaspoons of glycerine for every 1/4 cup of dry

mixture.

> What do you all think?

[Guest guest]

I agree with , and I would not use full strenth peroxide. I would suggest

diluting it 50/50 with pure water.

Kathy

---- Cody <lecody2001@...> wrote:

> I am not 100% sure, but I think that you should add the peroxide as you use

it. I believe that the peroxide is kept separate from the rest of the paste and

only comes together as you squeeze it out. Perhaps you could just dip your

toothbrush in peroxide and then add the paste you make.

>

> laura c.

>

>

> Re: Sensitive teeth and Flouride toothpaste

>

> I came across this tooth paste recipe recently and have been meaning to see

what you all think of it:

>

> >>>It's easy to make your own natural toothpaste! These instructions are

especially useful if you are trying to minimize exposure to fluoride, such as

for children or people who already have fluorosis. It's sugar-free and

non-toxic.

> Difficulty: Easy

> Time Required: Minutes

> Here's How:

> 1.. Mix three parts baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) with one part table salt

(sodium chloride).

> 2.. Add three teaspoons of glycerine for every 1/4 cup of dry mixture.

> 3.. Add enough water to make a thick paste. If desired, a few drops of

peppermint, cinnamon, or clove oil may be added to improve the taste.

> 4.. Apply and use just as you would any other toothpaste. Store unused

toothpaste at room temperature in a covered container.<< <<<<<<<<< <

> I haven't tried this yet. I thought the salt might be a little harsh on the

gums but the glycerine might make it more like regular tooth paste.

> What do you all think?

> What about adding the hydrogen peroxide?

>

> - Eli ()

> Re: Sensitive teeth and Flouride toothpaste

> Posted by: " Cody " lecody2001 (DOT) com lecody2001

> Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:01 am (PST)

> I think that the whitening agent in some toothpastes is Hydrogen peroxide [3%]

and the cleaning agent in many is baking soda so you can make your own paste

daily by just mixing the two. No flouride. If you need some serious cleaning you

can add a little salt but I would not brush hard especially hitting the gumline

if you do that.

>

> C.

>

>

[Guest guest]

From what I have read (a variety of sources) that sounds like overkill.

Sounds too abrasive. I have heard that if you want to whiten your teeth, you

can use baking soda on occasion but not every day.

For daily brushing, the best thing to use is soap that does not contain

glycerin. Glycerin is very sticky and takes many many rinses to get off --

so it's not conducive to remineralization of the teeth.

I am using the Perfect Prescription Tooth Soap. I love it!

http://www.perfect-prescription.com/

If you wanted something similar (and less expensive), you could just use bar

soap. Kiss My Face plain olive oil soap would be good to use. Dr. Bronner's

has added glycerin so it would not be a good choice.

Or any homemade soap made from animal fat, coconut oil, and/or olive oil.

Essential oil can be added to make it taste better. " Tooth Soap " is just

saponified coconut oil and olive oil with essential oil added. Then they

grate it and you use a shred at each brushing. I can't believe how clean my

teeth feel after I brush with soap -- like I just went for a professional

cleaning.

Ann Marie

On Nov 18, 2007 10:21 PM, Eli <elinthmt@...> wrote:

> I came across this tooth paste recipe recently and have been meaning to

> see what you all think of it:

>

> >>>It's easy to make your own natural toothpaste! These instructions are

> especially useful if you are trying to minimize exposure to fluoride, such

> as for children or people who already have fluorosis. It's sugar-free and

> non-toxic.

> Difficulty: Easy

> Time Required: Minutes

> Here's How:

> 1.. Mix three parts baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) with one part table

> salt (sodium chloride).

> 2.. Add three teaspoons of glycerine for every 1/4 cup of dry mixture.

> 3.. Add enough water to make a thick paste. If desired, a few drops of

> peppermint, cinnamon, or clove oil may be added to improve the taste.

> 4.. Apply and use just as you would any other toothpaste. Store unused

> toothpaste at room temperature in a covered container.<<<<<<<<<<<<

> I haven't tried this yet. I thought the salt might be a little harsh on

> the gums but the glycerine might make it more like regular tooth paste.

> What do you all think?

> What about adding the hydrogen peroxide?

[Guest guest]

PS: I am not sure about peroxide either. If I wanted to whiten my teeth, I

would try using baking soda maybe once a week and brush with bar soap or

Tooth Soap the rest of the time. I would not try peroxide unless my teeth

were badly stained -- and then I would only do it diluted and only on

occasion.

I have also read that it is very good to rinse your mouth with sea salt

water. And to swish with raw milk. Also good to eat an apple every day.

On Nov 19, 2007 9:43 AM, <inasnit@...> wrote:

> From what I have read (a variety of sources) that sounds like overkill.

> Sounds too abrasive. I have heard that if you want to whiten your teeth, you

> can use baking soda on occasion but not every day.

>

> For daily brushing, the best thing to use is soap that does not contain

> glycerin. Glycerin is very sticky and takes many many rinses to get off --

> so it's not conducive to remineralization of the teeth.

>

> I am using the Perfect Prescription Tooth Soap. I love it!

> http://www.perfect-prescription.com/

>

> If you wanted something similar (and less expensive), you could just use

> bar soap. Kiss My Face plain olive oil soap would be good to use. Dr.

> Bronner's has added glycerin so it would not be a good choice.

>

> Or any homemade soap made from animal fat, coconut oil, and/or olive oil.

> Essential oil can be added to make it taste better. " Tooth Soap " is just

> saponified coconut oil and olive oil with essential oil added. Then they

> grate it and you use a shred at each brushing. I can't believe how clean my

> teeth feel after I brush with soap -- like I just went for a professional

> cleaning.

>

> Ann Marie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have been following this thread for awhile and had to finally say

something. Years ago I used some kind of toothpaste that made my teeth

really sensitive so I then used the toothpaste for sensitive teeth which I

think they have fluoride free. Anyhow, I used it for a short time and my

teeth got better. Also, I use Auromere toothpaste which is a Auryvedic

toothpaste and it is the only one I have used that makes my teeth white.

Allyn

_____

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of inasnit@...

Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 12:45 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Sensitive teeth and Flouride toothpaste

PS: I am not sure about peroxide either. If I wanted to whiten my teeth, I

would try using baking soda maybe once a week and brush with bar soap or

Tooth Soap the rest of the time. I would not try peroxide unless my teeth

were badly stained -- and then I would only do it diluted and only on

occasion.

I have also read that it is very good to rinse your mouth with sea salt

water. And to swish with raw milk. Also good to eat an apple every day.

On Nov 19, 2007 9:43 AM, <inasnitgmail (DOT) <mailto:inasnit%40gmail.com> com>

wrote:

> From what I have read (a variety of sources) that sounds like overkill.

> Sounds too abrasive. I have heard that if you want to whiten your teeth,

you

> can use baking soda on occasion but not every day.

>

> For daily brushing, the best thing to use is soap that does not contain

> glycerin. Glycerin is very sticky and takes many many rinses to get off --

> so it's not conducive to remineralization of the teeth.

>

> I am using the Perfect Prescription Tooth Soap. I love it!

> http://www.perfect- <http://www.perfect-prescription.com/>

prescription.com/

>

> If you wanted something similar (and less expensive), you could just use

> bar soap. Kiss My Face plain olive oil soap would be good to use. Dr.

> Bronner's has added glycerin so it would not be a good choice.

>

> Or any homemade soap made from animal fat, coconut oil, and/or olive oil.

> Essential oil can be added to make it taste better. " Tooth Soap " is just

> saponified coconut oil and olive oil with essential oil added. Then they

> grate it and you use a shred at each brushing. I can't believe how clean

my

> teeth feel after I brush with soap -- like I just went for a professional

> cleaning.

>

> Ann Marie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

be careful with peroxide and fillings. Peroxide pulls out the mercury and

could cause problems.

Allyn

_____

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Cody

Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 9:47 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Sensitive teeth and Flouride toothpaste

I am not 100% sure, but I think that you should add the peroxide as you use

it. I believe that the peroxide is kept separate from the rest of the paste

and only comes together as you squeeze it out. Perhaps you could just dip

your toothbrush in peroxide and then add the paste you make.

laura c.

Re: Sensitive teeth and Flouride toothpaste

I came across this tooth paste recipe recently and have been meaning to see

what you all think of it:

>>>It's easy to make your own natural toothpaste! These instructions are

especially useful if you are trying to minimize exposure to fluoride, such

as for children or people who already have fluorosis. It's sugar-free and

non-toxic.

Difficulty: Easy

Time Required: Minutes

Here's How:

1.. Mix three parts baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) with one part table

salt (sodium chloride).

2.. Add three teaspoons of glycerine for every 1/4 cup of dry mixture.

3.. Add enough water to make a thick paste. If desired, a few drops of

peppermint, cinnamon, or clove oil may be added to improve the taste.

4.. Apply and use just as you would any other toothpaste. Store unused

toothpaste at room temperature in a covered container.<< <<<<<<<<< <

I haven't tried this yet. I thought the salt might be a little harsh on the

gums but the glycerine might make it more like regular tooth paste.

What do you all think?

What about adding the hydrogen peroxide?

- Eli ()

Re: Sensitive teeth and Flouride toothpaste

Posted by: " Cody " lecody2001 (DOT) com lecody2001

Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:01 am (PST)

I think that the whitening agent in some toothpastes is Hydrogen peroxide

[3%] and the cleaning agent in many is baking soda so you can make your own

paste daily by just mixing the two. No flouride. If you need some serious

cleaning you can add a little salt but I would not brush hard especially

hitting the gumline if you do that.

C.

[Guest guest]

What kind of glycerine are you talking about? I use vegetable glycerine-base

tootpaste and it is NOT sticky. My toothpaste is vegetable glycerine, with

peppermint and tea tree oils to taste. ly, since its so easy to make, I

have no idea why people would want to use store bought.

Baking soda is not that abrasive, or that effective because as soon as it gets

wet, it loses its abrasiveness.

Kathy

-

>

> > I came across this tooth paste recipe recently and have been meaning to

> > see what you all think of it:

> >

> > >>>It's easy to make your own natural toothpaste! These instructions are

> > especially useful if you are trying to minimize exposure to fluoride, such

> > as for children or people who already have fluorosis. It's sugar-free and

> > non-toxic.

> > Difficulty: Easy

> > Time Required: Minutes

> > Here's How:

> > 1.. Mix three parts baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) with one part table

> > salt (sodium chloride).

> > 2.. Add three teaspoons of glycerine for every 1/4 cup of dry mixture.

> > 3.. Add enough water to make a thick paste. If desired, a few drops of

> > peppermint, cinnamon, or clove oil may be added to improve the taste.

> > 4.. Apply and use just as you would any other toothpaste. Store unused

> > toothpaste at room temperature in a covered container.<<<<<<<<<<<<

> > I haven't tried this yet. I thought the salt might be a little harsh on

> > the gums but the glycerine might make it more like regular tooth paste.

> > What do you all think?

> > What about adding the hydrogen peroxide?

[Guest guest]

Glycerin comes from fat and extracted in soap making (it becomes a

byproduct), when you make soap with fat and lye.

http://www.pioneerthinking.com/glycerin.html

Many soap makers put the glycerin back in -- like Dr. Bronners.

Some soaps leave it out (like Kiss My Face *plain* olive oil soap -- the

scented variety puts it back in).

All toothpastes contain glycerin -- except the Perfect Prescriptions Tooth

Soap. You can see how sticky they are if you put some on your sink and try

rinsing it off. If you don't rinse it off right away, it will harden on the

sink.

It was Dr. Gerard Judd who said that brushing with glycerin (in any

toothpaste, even natural toothpastes like Tom's) will prevent the teeth from

remineralizing.

http://www.whale.to/a/judd.html

He also says to avoid fluoride, rinse with water and milk and sea salt,

brush occasionally with baking soda (but primarily with bar soap), and eat a

nutrient-dense diet.

Ann Marie

On Nov 19, 2007 11:13 AM, <kathy.dickson@...> wrote:

> What kind of glycerine are you talking about? I use vegetable

> glycerine-base tootpaste and it is NOT sticky. My toothpaste is vegetable

> glycerine, with peppermint and tea tree oils to taste. ly, since its so

> easy to make, I have no idea why people would want to use store bought.

>

> Baking soda is not that abrasive, or that effective because as soon as it

> gets wet, it loses its abrasiveness.

>

> Kathy

>

>

[Guest guest]

I use vegetable glycerine in my homemade toothpaste. From the Web site at:

http://www.botanical.com/products/learn/vegetable-glycerine.html

Vegetable Glyceine

Vegetable glycerine comes to us through a very complex and sophisticated method

of extraction known as Hydrolysis, and the end product that we refer to as

" Vegetable Glycerine " is usually the by-product of another oils production. The

basics of this system is that the fats and oils of a raw ingredient (usually

palm or coconut oils) are split into crude glycerol fats, under the combined

action of water, temperature and pressure. These temperatures can exceed 400°

degrees and the material is usually kept under pressure for 20-30 minutes. What

is actually occurring is a sort of " counter-flow " where the water absorbs

glycerol from the fatty acid phase of the oil production. After this phase this

glycerol is isolated and further distilled to give buyers a standard 99%

Glycerine product.

Vegetable Glycerine is a clear, colorless, and odorless liquid with an

incredibly sweet taste having the consistency of thick syrup. It is used as an

agent in cosmetics, toothpaste, shampoos, soaps, herbal remedies,

pharmaceuticals, and other household items. Because it is soluble in both, water

and alcohol, its versatility is a major benefactor in its purported growth and

popularity within the manufacturing sector. It is invaluable as a natural source

ingredient with emollient like properties which can soften and soothe the skin

and it assists the outer epidermis is retaining moisture. This helps to explain

why it is one of the most popular cosmetic additives used today.

Other uses include its solvency action which aides herbalists in extracting

botanical properties from plant materials without the use of alcohol. This is

especially helpful for those with alcohol sensitivities as most liquid herbal

extracts contain alcohol. But given its severely limited shelf life, extracts

made from Vegetable Glycerine typically have a shelf life of 14-24 months

whereas alcohol extracts can have an extended shelf life of 4-6 years.

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> > What kind of glycerine are you talking about? I use vegetable

> > glycerine-based tootpaste and it is NOT sticky. My toothpaste is vegetable

> > glycerine, with peppermint and tea tree oils to taste. ly, since its so

> > easy to make, I have no idea why people would want to use store bought.

> >

> > Baking soda is not that abrasive, or that effective because as soon as it

> > gets wet, it loses its abrasiveness.

> >

> > Kathy

[Guest guest]

I stand corrected re: glycerin in Dr. Bronner's. I did a little more digging

and found this post on a raw food forum online:

" Tooth Soap also has glycerin in it. Tooth Soap company says to avoid

products with over 55% glycerin, Dr. Bronners is only 2-3%. They are both an

acquired taste. I was surprised to find Tooth Soap didn't flavor it more

considering the cost. I find the baby mild is best & you can dilute it with

water and/or flavoring. Also like how it has multi-purposes. Especially good

for traveling. "

So the issue is not glycerin per se. Tooth Soap and Dr. Bronner's both have

glycerin. But they only have a tiny amount. You have to avoid soap with a

lot of glycerin. I believe most toothpaste has a lot-- because it is so

sticky. I don't know that for a fact since they don't list it on the label.

I suppose you could call the company -- which is what the people on the raw

food board did.

I prefer the Tooth Soap product to Dr. Bronner's or other soaps -- I prefer

the taste. However, if you want to save money, Dr. Bronner's would be a good

way to go.

I used to have problems with tooth sensitivity (the original topic of this

long thread!) but not since I've been using these soaps.

Also I just got an email from the Tooth Soap people saying they are having a

25% off sale. And no, I am not compensated by them in any way. ;-)

Ann Marie

[Guest guest]

I think you have to have food grade hp.

On Nov 19, 2007, at 6:47 AM, Cody wrote:

> What about adding the hydrogen peroxide?

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[Guest guest]

From everything I have read, getting rid of mercury fillings is a plus or is

that silver fillings?

As for the peroxide the 3% solution is diluted sufficiently for teeth

brushing...

laura c

Re: Sensitive teeth and Flouride toothpaste

I came across this tooth paste recipe recently and have been meaning to see

what you all think of it:

>>>It's easy to make your own natural toothpaste! These instructions are

especially useful if you are trying to minimize exposure to fluoride, such

as for children or people who already have fluorosis. It's sugar-free and

non-toxic.

Difficulty: Easy

Time Required: Minutes

Here's How:

1.. Mix three parts baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) with one part table

salt (sodium chloride).

2.. Add three teaspoons of glycerine for every 1/4 cup of dry mixture.

3.. Add enough water to make a thick paste. If desired, a few drops of

peppermint, cinnamon, or clove oil may be added to improve the taste.

4.. Apply and use just as you would any other toothpaste. Store unused

toothpaste at room temperature in a covered container.<< <<<<<<<<< <

I haven't tried this yet. I thought the salt might be a little harsh on the

gums but the glycerine might make it more like regular tooth paste.

What do you all think?

What about adding the hydrogen peroxide?

- Eli ()

Re: Sensitive teeth and Flouride toothpaste

Posted by: " Cody " lecody2001 (DOT) com lecody2001

Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:01 am (PST)

I think that the whitening agent in some toothpastes is Hydrogen peroxide

[3%] and the cleaning agent in many is baking soda so you can make your own

paste daily by just mixing the two. No flouride. If you need some serious

cleaning you can add a little salt but I would not brush hard especially

hitting the gumline if you do that.

C.