Question

[Guest guest]

Hi Tom, thanks for the reply.

My current average bg levels are 5.4 pre meals and 6.4 post meals, is

that non-diabetic?

Jacky - down 41 pounds and in a size 12-13 pant so my waist is about 32

inches.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/21/02 7:34:32 PM Central Standard Time,

willabee@... writes:

<< I told her that I was able to

maintain good control using diet and exercise, to which she said.

That's all fine and good but if you are insulin resistant you are just

burning out your pancreas because it is working and working to keep you

in good control, >>

IMHO....if you are eating right to limit the need for insulin ie lower carb

and you are exercising....both of those things decrease insulin resisitance.

I also take ALA which lowers insulin resisitance 20 percent and exercise

which lowers 20 percent but combing the two of them cause a decrease of 65

percent. I think you would see the situation this person talks about if you

were peaking very high with every meal and then getting it back down.....at

that point I would wonder how hard you pancreas is working to get it down.

ressy

[Guest guest]

I bet you could find an American cyberfriend to buy it for you...just ask!

Vicki

In a message dated 02/22/2002 6:23:13 AM US Mountain Standard Time,

willabee@... writes:

> The Bernstein deal with Bayer is only a US thing

> and I don't know an Americans (other then Cyber friends)

>

>

[Guest guest]

> If you haven't read Bernstein and Becker yet, Jacky, i strongly

> suggest you

> do. (info at bottom of this page). Then you can respond to her

> intelligently, smile. Vicki

I know, however, Bernstein is over $50 Canadian, more if I order it from

the us and pay for shipping and I am yet to find Becker in Canada. I

have been reading book from the library about what diabetes is and how

it effects the body. The Bernstein deal with Bayer is only a US thing

and I don't know an Americans (other then Cyber friends)

Thanks for your reply

Jacky

[Guest guest]

> If you haven't read Bernstein and Becker yet, Jacky, i strongly

> suggest you

> do. (info at bottom of this page). Then you can respond to her

> intelligently, smile. Vicki

I know, however, Bernstein is over $50 Canadian, more if I order it from

the us and pay for shipping and I am yet to find Becker in Canada. I

have been reading book from the library about what diabetes is and how

it effects the body. The Bernstein deal with Bayer is only a US thing

and I don't know an Americans (other then Cyber friends)

Thanks for your reply

Jacky

[Guest guest]

Jacky, 5.4 (97 US) pre meal and 6.4 post meal (115 US) are well within

non-diabetic ranges. Congratulations on these levels and the weight loss.

Just a few more questions: What are your readings when you first get up in

the morning (taken right away)? How long after your meals do you take your

post meal readings (two hours after gives a reasonable indication as to

whether we are " recovering " fairly quickly from a meal while a 1 to 1 1/4

hour test can give us an indication of how high we are peaking)? Have you

checked your readings 2 to 2 1/2 hours after you get up, particularly if you

have not yet eaten, to see how high they go (many of us find that this may

be our highest time of the day because of the hormonal changes when we first

become active)?

Again, I'm not a doctor, but I don't think the blood sugar levels you

reported indicate that diabetic meds are needed.

Tom the Actuary

[Guest guest]

Jacky, 5.4 (97 US) pre meal and 6.4 post meal (115 US) are well within

non-diabetic ranges. Congratulations on these levels and the weight loss.

Just a few more questions: What are your readings when you first get up in

the morning (taken right away)? How long after your meals do you take your

post meal readings (two hours after gives a reasonable indication as to

whether we are " recovering " fairly quickly from a meal while a 1 to 1 1/4

hour test can give us an indication of how high we are peaking)? Have you

checked your readings 2 to 2 1/2 hours after you get up, particularly if you

have not yet eaten, to see how high they go (many of us find that this may

be our highest time of the day because of the hormonal changes when we first

become active)?

Again, I'm not a doctor, but I don't think the blood sugar levels you

reported indicate that diabetic meds are needed.

Tom the Actuary

[Guest guest]

Hi Tom,

> Just a few more questions: What are your readings when you first get

> up in

> the morning (taken right away)?

6.1-6.8 a bit high.

> How long after your meals do you take your post meal readings

2 hours

> Have you checked your readings 2 to 2 1/2 hours after you get up,

> particularly if you

> have not yet eaten, to see how high they go (many of us find that this

> may

> be our highest time of the day because of the hormonal changes when we

> first

> become active)?

I always eat right after I wake then exercise or go to work.

> Again, I'm not a doctor, but I don't think the blood sugar levels you

> reported indicate that diabetic meds are needed.

thanks Tom

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tom,

> Just a few more questions: What are your readings when you first get

> up in

> the morning (taken right away)?

6.1-6.8 a bit high.

> How long after your meals do you take your post meal readings

2 hours

> Have you checked your readings 2 to 2 1/2 hours after you get up,

> particularly if you

> have not yet eaten, to see how high they go (many of us find that this

> may

> be our highest time of the day because of the hormonal changes when we

> first

> become active)?

I always eat right after I wake then exercise or go to work.

> Again, I'm not a doctor, but I don't think the blood sugar levels you

> reported indicate that diabetic meds are needed.

thanks Tom

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tom,

> Just a few more questions: What are your readings when you first get

> up in

> the morning (taken right away)?

6.1-6.8 a bit high.

> How long after your meals do you take your post meal readings

2 hours

> Have you checked your readings 2 to 2 1/2 hours after you get up,

> particularly if you

> have not yet eaten, to see how high they go (many of us find that this

> may

> be our highest time of the day because of the hormonal changes when we

> first

> become active)?

I always eat right after I wake then exercise or go to work.

> Again, I'm not a doctor, but I don't think the blood sugar levels you

> reported indicate that diabetic meds are needed.

thanks Tom

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have been low carbing for at least 4 years. My Hba1c was 5.7 this last week.

Hope to continue for as long as possible with this way of eating. Take 500mgs

of Glucophage morning and night.

Spillman

[Guest guest]

I have been low carbing for at least 4 years. My Hba1c was 5.7 this last week.

Hope to continue for as long as possible with this way of eating. Take 500mgs

of Glucophage morning and night.

Spillman

[Guest guest]

I have been low carbing for at least 4 years. My Hba1c was 5.7 this last week.

Hope to continue for as long as possible with this way of eating. Take 500mgs

of Glucophage morning and night.

Spillman

[Guest guest]

said...

> I have been low carbing for at least 4 years. My Hba1c was 5.7 this last

week. Hope to continue for as long as possible with this way of eating.

Take 500mgs of Glucophage morning and night.

That is WONDERFUL! I know I was on the right track....I hope I get down

there someday...congrats!!!!

Deb

_________________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

said...

> I have been low carbing for at least 4 years. My Hba1c was 5.7 this last

week. Hope to continue for as long as possible with this way of eating.

Take 500mgs of Glucophage morning and night.

That is WONDERFUL! I know I was on the right track....I hope I get down

there someday...congrats!!!!

Deb

_________________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

said...

> I have been low carbing for at least 4 years. My Hba1c was 5.7 this last

week. Hope to continue for as long as possible with this way of eating.

Take 500mgs of Glucophage morning and night.

That is WONDERFUL! I know I was on the right track....I hope I get down

there someday...congrats!!!!

Deb

_________________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I thought I'd answered this earlier today. I've been moderate (100 grams of

carb per day) carbing for 4 of the 5 years since dx, and it was this list

that convinced me, when I found myself on ever increased meds without good

control, eating rice and beans. When I need to lose a few pounds, I lower

that to around 60.

Barb, type II, insulin by choice for better control, 5'4 " , 125 pounds, age:

58, physical farm work

> I think that would be Barb, who's been on the list since its inception

about

> four years ago. I'd qualify, since I've been on this list since the

> beginning too, except I'm not a type 2 and she is. And she's been

moderate

> carbing for about the same length of time, too.

[Guest guest]

I thought I'd answered this earlier today. I've been moderate (100 grams of

carb per day) carbing for 4 of the 5 years since dx, and it was this list

that convinced me, when I found myself on ever increased meds without good

control, eating rice and beans. When I need to lose a few pounds, I lower

that to around 60.

Barb, type II, insulin by choice for better control, 5'4 " , 125 pounds, age:

58, physical farm work

> I think that would be Barb, who's been on the list since its inception

about

> four years ago. I'd qualify, since I've been on this list since the

> beginning too, except I'm not a type 2 and she is. And she's been

moderate

> carbing for about the same length of time, too.

[Guest guest]

I thought I'd answered this earlier today. I've been moderate (100 grams of

carb per day) carbing for 4 of the 5 years since dx, and it was this list

that convinced me, when I found myself on ever increased meds without good

control, eating rice and beans. When I need to lose a few pounds, I lower

that to around 60.

Barb, type II, insulin by choice for better control, 5'4 " , 125 pounds, age:

58, physical farm work

> I think that would be Barb, who's been on the list since its inception

about

> four years ago. I'd qualify, since I've been on this list since the

> beginning too, except I'm not a type 2 and she is. And she's been

moderate

> carbing for about the same length of time, too.

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeanna,

This isn't really " long term " , but I was dxed 2/1/99 and have been eating 70

- 120 carbs a day, which includes 25-40 grams of mixed fiber). My diet

varies depending on where I am and what I'm doing. My former (pre-DM) diet

included lots of food only available through drive-through windows.

Health.....I have 0 perceivable microalbumin on the 24 hr urine test and

normal creatinin

My total chol is 156...

Trig 100

LDL 85

HDL 51

I've maintained consistent hba1cs between 4.9 - 5.4 (both scores came during

the same week with different labs.)

And the best part....this week, I had a stress (treadmill) echocardiogram and

was told I have the heart of a 25 yr old. The rest of me is 51.

So, I think I'm healthy for now <g>

Carol T

In a message dated 3/10/02 6:36:09 PM Pacific Standard Time, whimsy2@...

writes:

Jeanna@... writes:

> o I was wondering who do we have on the list

> that has been low/mod carbing for Type II Diabetes

> the longest? I guess I'm curious what the long term

> effects have been for your overall health and the

> diabetes?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeanna,

This isn't really " long term " , but I was dxed 2/1/99 and have been eating 70

- 120 carbs a day, which includes 25-40 grams of mixed fiber). My diet

varies depending on where I am and what I'm doing. My former (pre-DM) diet

included lots of food only available through drive-through windows.

Health.....I have 0 perceivable microalbumin on the 24 hr urine test and

normal creatinin

My total chol is 156...

Trig 100

LDL 85

HDL 51

I've maintained consistent hba1cs between 4.9 - 5.4 (both scores came during

the same week with different labs.)

And the best part....this week, I had a stress (treadmill) echocardiogram and

was told I have the heart of a 25 yr old. The rest of me is 51.

So, I think I'm healthy for now <g>

Carol T

In a message dated 3/10/02 6:36:09 PM Pacific Standard Time, whimsy2@...

writes:

Jeanna@... writes:

> o I was wondering who do we have on the list

> that has been low/mod carbing for Type II Diabetes

> the longest? I guess I'm curious what the long term

> effects have been for your overall health and the

> diabetes?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeanna,

This isn't really " long term " , but I was dxed 2/1/99 and have been eating 70

- 120 carbs a day, which includes 25-40 grams of mixed fiber). My diet

varies depending on where I am and what I'm doing. My former (pre-DM) diet

included lots of food only available through drive-through windows.

Health.....I have 0 perceivable microalbumin on the 24 hr urine test and

normal creatinin

My total chol is 156...

Trig 100

LDL 85

HDL 51

I've maintained consistent hba1cs between 4.9 - 5.4 (both scores came during

the same week with different labs.)

And the best part....this week, I had a stress (treadmill) echocardiogram and

was told I have the heart of a 25 yr old. The rest of me is 51.

So, I think I'm healthy for now <g>

Carol T

In a message dated 3/10/02 6:36:09 PM Pacific Standard Time, whimsy2@...

writes:

Jeanna@... writes:

> o I was wondering who do we have on the list

> that has been low/mod carbing for Type II Diabetes

> the longest? I guess I'm curious what the long term

> effects have been for your overall health and the

> diabetes?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

My name is Larissa..I just joined from a web site.Wow i got an unbelievable

amount of e-mails from different people.But your ? was about tubes coming

undone naturally.I have heard it was possible,have you ever heard of it

happeneing?I was hoping that it was true,but so far nothing has happened.I

had my daughter 6 years ago and had my tubes tied the day after,thinking i

wouldnt want another baby,until that is that i met a wonderful man.I have 3

kids and he loves them all,but its not the same.

I was also wondering if insurance companys cover the cost and how much they

are.Also wondering what kind of tests they do before you can get a reversal.

Larissa

[Guest guest]

Thanks for responding

[Guest guest]

Kia

My girl friend became pregant with her tubes tied after two years. SO

it is possible I know because I was with her when she had them tied

and then when she got the + and delivered the baby man was she

surprised and after the birth of the baby she had them tied again.

YIKES!

> I have a question. Has anyone ever heard of someone having their

tubes coming

> untied naturally? Kia

>

>

>