Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like flies?

[Guest guest]

I guess that's an interesting theory if you're assuming that all pancreatic

disorders could

be related to traumatic issues. It doesn't address the untold number of

children who are

diagnosed with diseases from one end of the spectrum to another, some who are

literally

born with these disorders. I am a huge advocate of nutrition and I absolutely

believe the

human body is capable of curing itself of many disorders, given the proper

conditions, I

don't doubt that for a moment. At the same time I think this type of thinking

ignores

many problems that we face in the world today that are causing untold numbers of

people

to be sick or lose their lives, i.e. the food, pharmacuetical, petrochemical

industries, etc.

Ever given any thought to the fact that this line of thought is thrown out there

to draw

attention away from areas that need to seen in full daylight???

Linn

>

> I believe that when the Chakra that governs the pancreas closes up due to

factors that

began originating in childhood, e.g. traumas, abandonment, abuse, etc. that yes,

those

glands/organs which that Chakra governs can malfunction. One thing we must keep

in

mind is that EVERYTHING is about energy.

>

>

> Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like

> flies?

>

> > Val,

> >

> > I hear what you are saying. I would like to share with you my idea

> > of a genetic illness. To me, genetics is what one is predisposed to

> > and where their weaknesses lie if they are to breakdown and become

> > unbalanced. Thus, I was prone to endocrine problems, and that's

> > what I got once stress, and the way I was operating were no longer

> > working. I don't believe that we have to get what we are

> > genetically predisposed to if we don't set ourselves up to be sick

> > to begin with. I also believe that our bodies can heal if we do the

> > necessary work on ourselves and our lives.

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>>Ever given any thought to the fact that this line of thought is thrown out

there to draw

attention away from areas that need to seen in full daylight???<<

Linn you are SO right on the money! I used to read websites and think GADS they

are nuts! they see conspiracies in everything.. Now I am one of those nuts. LOL

I see governments trying to subdue rebellious people with fluoride, just like

they used to do in the concentration camps. I see BIG PHARMA pushing things to

CURE one illness that cause several others. I see horrible things that I really

wish I were too stupid to see. And I am the ETERNAL optimist! One of my largest

problems in life has been always seeing only the good side of people and life.

And when it turned out to be wrong, it was a slap in my face. Well, folks I

have been slapped enough and though I still tend to see only good, now I tun

around and purposely look for the OTHER side.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

>>diabetes skips generations....................<<

Sure does! Actually in my family it was my great aunts that had it, but then my

mother died too young to know if she would have had it or not. But her brother

and sister do not have it.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

>

> Ever given any thought to the fact that this line of thought is

thrown out there to draw

> attention away from areas that need to seen in full daylight???

>

Yeah..like the impact FLUORIDE has on all of our fine thyroids???

Warmly,

[Guest guest]

That's an old wive's tale about Type 2 diabetes skipping generations.

Linn

>

> diabetes skips generations....................

>

> -- Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like flies?

>

> Lynda,

>

> I'm not saying we can change out " genetic predisposition " , but I believe

> that when we have a breakdown or imbalance of mental, spiritual, physical,

> that we are more likely to get what we are genetically predisposed to. My

> grandmother had diabetes for example, but none of her four children nor her

> grandchildren (now in their 40's) developed it. Just because it was in their

> genes, doesn't mean that it will manifest. My problems are all endocrine,

> but I know that even though endocrine problems are in my family, I got sick

> because of my emotional response to my environment. I wasn't being true to

> myself for years and trying to people please instead and trying to take care

> of everybody else's needs and trying to be perfect. My body broke down to

> send a message that " you can't do this anymore " . This is what I mean.

>

>

> Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like

> > flies?

> >

> > > Val,

> > >

> > > I hear what you are saying. I would like to share with you my

> > idea

> > > of a genetic illness. To me, genetics is what one is predisposed

> > to

> > > and where their weaknesses lie if they are to breakdown and

> > become

> > > unbalanced. Thus, I was prone to endocrine problems, and that's

> > > what I got once stress, and the way I was operating were no

> > longer

> > > working. I don't believe that we have to get what we are

> > > genetically predisposed to if we don't set ourselves up to be

> > sick

> > > to begin with. I also believe that our bodies can heal if we do

> > the

> > > necessary work on ourselves and our lives.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I don't mean to come across in any negative way. I just think illness

and dis-ease are much more complex than we realize and that mind and body are

clearly ONE and can never be considered separate. Our emotions alone and how we

respond to things and the imprints of our experiences definitely contribute to

symptoms that the body sends. This is why we have expressions like " I couldn't

stomach that " or " My stomach was all tied up in knots " . These physical

sensations/symptoms are manifestations of how we respond to something that

happens. This is all I'm saying and sorry if I insulted anyone.

Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like

flies?

> Lynda,

>

> I'm not saying we can change out " genetic predisposition " , but I

> believe that when we have a breakdown or imbalance of mental,

> spiritual, physical, that we are more likely to get what we are

> genetically predisposed to.

[Guest guest]

>

I just think illness and dis-ease are much more complex than we

realize and that mind and body are clearly ONE and can never be

considered separate.

AGREED

Our emotions alone and how we respond to things and the imprints of

our experiences definitely contribute to symptoms that the body sends.

AGREED

This is why we have expressions like " I couldn't stomach that " or " My

stomach was all tied up in knots " . These physical sensations/symptoms

are manifestations of how we respond to something that happens.

AGREED

BUT...

I think the thing that most are taking issue with on this thread is

that we are each unique individuals on our own winding paths.

Even if I " created " all of my own " dis-ease " with whatever lingering

negativity is in my life, it doesn't mean that YOU (or others) had it

happen the same way!

As I think we've all seen in our thyroid and/or adrenal treatment

programs, there is no one-size-fits-all that works for everyone.

We're all different - physically, emotionally, mentally & spiritually.

So why should we take a one-size-fits-all approach to healing our

bodies or our spirits?

Warmly,

[Guest guest]

>

I just think illness and dis-ease are much more complex than we

realize and that mind and body are clearly ONE and can never be

considered separate.

AGREED

Our emotions alone and how we respond to things and the imprints of

our experiences definitely contribute to symptoms that the body sends.

AGREED

This is why we have expressions like " I couldn't stomach that " or " My

stomach was all tied up in knots " . These physical sensations/symptoms

are manifestations of how we respond to something that happens.

AGREED

BUT...

I think the thing that most are taking issue with on this thread is

that we are each unique individuals on our own winding paths.

Even if I " created " all of my own " dis-ease " with whatever lingering

negativity is in my life, it doesn't mean that YOU (or others) had it

happen the same way!

As I think we've all seen in our thyroid and/or adrenal treatment

programs, there is no one-size-fits-all that works for everyone.

We're all different - physically, emotionally, mentally & spiritually.

So why should we take a one-size-fits-all approach to healing our

bodies or our spirits?

Warmly,

[Guest guest]

>

I just think illness and dis-ease are much more complex than we

realize and that mind and body are clearly ONE and can never be

considered separate.

AGREED

Our emotions alone and how we respond to things and the imprints of

our experiences definitely contribute to symptoms that the body sends.

AGREED

This is why we have expressions like " I couldn't stomach that " or " My

stomach was all tied up in knots " . These physical sensations/symptoms

are manifestations of how we respond to something that happens.

AGREED

BUT...

I think the thing that most are taking issue with on this thread is

that we are each unique individuals on our own winding paths.

Even if I " created " all of my own " dis-ease " with whatever lingering

negativity is in my life, it doesn't mean that YOU (or others) had it

happen the same way!

As I think we've all seen in our thyroid and/or adrenal treatment

programs, there is no one-size-fits-all that works for everyone.

We're all different - physically, emotionally, mentally & spiritually.

So why should we take a one-size-fits-all approach to healing our

bodies or our spirits?

Warmly,

[Guest guest]

Type one, it does skip generation.

-- Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like flies?

>

> Lynda,

>

> I'm not saying we can change out " genetic predisposition " , but I believe

> that when we have a breakdown or imbalance of mental, spiritual, physical,

> that we are more likely to get what we are genetically predisposed to. My

> grandmother had diabetes for example, but none of her four children nor

her

> grandchildren (now in their 40's) developed it. Just because it was in

their

> genes, doesn't mean that it will manifest. My problems are all endocrine,

> but I know that even though endocrine problems are in my family, I got

sick

> because of my emotional response to my environment. I wasn't being true to

> myself for years and trying to people please instead and trying to take

care

> of everybody else's needs and trying to be perfect. My body broke down to

> send a message that " you can't do this anymore " . This is what I mean.

>

>

> Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like

> > flies?

> >

> > > Val,

> > >

> > > I hear what you are saying. I would like to share with you my

> > idea

> > > of a genetic illness. To me, genetics is what one is predisposed

> > to

> > > and where their weaknesses lie if they are to breakdown and

> > become

> > > unbalanced. Thus, I was prone to endocrine problems, and that's

> > > what I got once stress, and the way I was operating were no

> > longer

> > > working. I don't believe that we have to get what we are

> > > genetically predisposed to if we don't set ourselves up to be

> > sick

> > > to begin with. I also believe that our bodies can heal if we do

> > the

> > > necessary work on ourselves and our lives.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Type one, it does skip generation.

-- Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like flies?

>

> Lynda,

>

> I'm not saying we can change out " genetic predisposition " , but I believe

> that when we have a breakdown or imbalance of mental, spiritual, physical,

> that we are more likely to get what we are genetically predisposed to. My

> grandmother had diabetes for example, but none of her four children nor

her

> grandchildren (now in their 40's) developed it. Just because it was in

their

> genes, doesn't mean that it will manifest. My problems are all endocrine,

> but I know that even though endocrine problems are in my family, I got

sick

> because of my emotional response to my environment. I wasn't being true to

> myself for years and trying to people please instead and trying to take

care

> of everybody else's needs and trying to be perfect. My body broke down to

> send a message that " you can't do this anymore " . This is what I mean.

>

>

> Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like

> > flies?

> >

> > > Val,

> > >

> > > I hear what you are saying. I would like to share with you my

> > idea

> > > of a genetic illness. To me, genetics is what one is predisposed

> > to

> > > and where their weaknesses lie if they are to breakdown and

> > become

> > > unbalanced. Thus, I was prone to endocrine problems, and that's

> > > what I got once stress, and the way I was operating were no

> > longer

> > > working. I don't believe that we have to get what we are

> > > genetically predisposed to if we don't set ourselves up to be

> > sick

> > > to begin with. I also believe that our bodies can heal if we do

> > the

> > > necessary work on ourselves and our lives.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Type one, it does skip generation.

-- Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like flies?

>

> Lynda,

>

> I'm not saying we can change out " genetic predisposition " , but I believe

> that when we have a breakdown or imbalance of mental, spiritual, physical,

> that we are more likely to get what we are genetically predisposed to. My

> grandmother had diabetes for example, but none of her four children nor

her

> grandchildren (now in their 40's) developed it. Just because it was in

their

> genes, doesn't mean that it will manifest. My problems are all endocrine,

> but I know that even though endocrine problems are in my family, I got

sick

> because of my emotional response to my environment. I wasn't being true to

> myself for years and trying to people please instead and trying to take

care

> of everybody else's needs and trying to be perfect. My body broke down to

> send a message that " you can't do this anymore " . This is what I mean.

>

>

> Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like

> > flies?

> >

> > > Val,

> > >

> > > I hear what you are saying. I would like to share with you my

> > idea

> > > of a genetic illness. To me, genetics is what one is predisposed

> > to

> > > and where their weaknesses lie if they are to breakdown and

> > become

> > > unbalanced. Thus, I was prone to endocrine problems, and that's

> > > what I got once stress, and the way I was operating were no

> > longer

> > > working. I don't believe that we have to get what we are

> > > genetically predisposed to if we don't set ourselves up to be

> > sick

> > > to begin with. I also believe that our bodies can heal if we do

> > the

> > > necessary work on ourselves and our lives.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Let me restate that since we are discussing individuality.

My paternal grandmother had diabetes- type 1 and my maternal grandfather had

diabetes-type 2. No one in my family has had diabetes of any kind. When I

spoke to my doctor about HC and growth hormone facilitating diabetes (type

2) and told him about my relatives, he said he often sees it skip a

generation. I am sure this is not always the case but in my family, none of

the above grandparents children ever had any kind of diabetes.

I think this is significant since I had grandparents on both mom and dad's

side (their parents) and none of their kids (and there were 15 kids total)

had it, it led me to believe my doctor's statement had some validity.

-- Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like

> flies?

> >

> > I knew that post would get feedback but I had no idea how much. It's

> > impossible for me to respond to everyone that responded to the post so

> > I will just say this:

> >

> > First of all, as background, I was raised in an argumentative angry

> > environment and had very negative thinking most of my life. I learned

> > to be very judgmental toward others and that I was never good enough.

> > I blamed the rest of the world on my poor lot in life as I had been

> > taught to do by my father. I do believe this has had a major impact

> > on the fact that my body has been out of balance for many years.

> >

> > I know now that beliefs are everything. What we believe in, creates

> > our reality. If we believe we cannot and will not get well, we are

> > right. I also know now, from my intense study of nutrition and health

> > that there is a cure for just about everything that ails us. Yes,

> > even things you may think there is no cure for. It's just that big

> > pharma and western medicine don't recognize it and we have been

> > brainwashed into believing them.

> >

> > I started studying alternative health in 1999 as a result of the Y2K

> > scare. And after I became ill in 2003, I started focusing completely

> > on how to become healthy rather than dwelling on my illness. I did

> > this primarily because no one could tell me what was really wrong with

> > me. Along the way, I became aware that health encompasses 3 areas:

> > body, mind and spirit. I focused primarily on body first because I

> > couldn't think straight and needed to be able to think clearly before

> > I could focus on the other two. After about 18 months of focusing on

> > nutrition I had gotten to a point where I could finally work

> > part-time. At that time, I also became a Certified Nutrition and

> > Wellness Consultant.

> >

> > In December of 2005, I became angry and paced through my house yelling

> > at " God " that I was sick and tired of being sick and tired and I asked

> > him to please send me the answer. I didn't understand this at the

> > time, but when we are passionate about something (and anger is

> > passion) it manifests very quickly. Over the next few weeks, the

> > teachings of the Law of Attraction began coming to me from every

> > direction. It was so blatant in fact that I finally looked to the

> > heavens and said: OK, I get it!

> >

> > So started my journey into the mind and spirit part of the equation.

> > Since then I have learned a great deal and my life has changed for the

> > better.

> >

> > As you can see, there are people here who haven't yet delved into the

> > mind/spirit part of the equation. It's sometimes hard to grasp this

> > when you are ill but if you read books about health, the good ones

> > will always mention the mind and spirit part of the equation.

> >

> > For those of you who would like to learn more, Inga mentioned the

> > movie The Secret. This is the single most important documentary

> > that's been done on the subject and it has skyrocketed in popularity

> > over the last year. In fact, the teachers on The Secret have been

> > profiled on Larry King Live and were on the Oprah show about a week

> > ago. And, Oprah said she has always known this information and used

> > it to create her life but she just didn't know it was a secret! The

> > things on this documentary are not just some kind of woo woo stuff.

> > This is all backed up by science and some of the scientists are also

> > in the movie to speak about this as well.

> >

> > Yes, there is now scientific proof that the mind plays a pivotal role

> > in our health and our lives as a whole. If you watch the movie you

> > will see people who suffered terrible health issues and recovered by

> > using their minds. It will give you hope as well as a lot to think

> > about. Maybe we can have a great discussion about The Secret movie.

> >

> > If you took offense at my post, well, it was not meant to offend, but

> > instead, to help. It has obviously made many of you think and that's

> > a good thing.

> >

> > You can purchase The Secret at http://www.thesecret.tv and I am not

> > affiliated in any way. I watch this movie at least once a month. It

> > helps me to stay focused and gives me great hope for my future. You

> > can also view it online one time but I was never able to get that to

> work.

> >

> > Ginger

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Let me restate that since we are discussing individuality.

My paternal grandmother had diabetes- type 1 and my maternal grandfather had

diabetes-type 2. No one in my family has had diabetes of any kind. When I

spoke to my doctor about HC and growth hormone facilitating diabetes (type

2) and told him about my relatives, he said he often sees it skip a

generation. I am sure this is not always the case but in my family, none of

the above grandparents children ever had any kind of diabetes.

I think this is significant since I had grandparents on both mom and dad's

side (their parents) and none of their kids (and there were 15 kids total)

had it, it led me to believe my doctor's statement had some validity.

-- Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like

> flies?

> >

> > I knew that post would get feedback but I had no idea how much. It's

> > impossible for me to respond to everyone that responded to the post so

> > I will just say this:

> >

> > First of all, as background, I was raised in an argumentative angry

> > environment and had very negative thinking most of my life. I learned

> > to be very judgmental toward others and that I was never good enough.

> > I blamed the rest of the world on my poor lot in life as I had been

> > taught to do by my father. I do believe this has had a major impact

> > on the fact that my body has been out of balance for many years.

> >

> > I know now that beliefs are everything. What we believe in, creates

> > our reality. If we believe we cannot and will not get well, we are

> > right. I also know now, from my intense study of nutrition and health

> > that there is a cure for just about everything that ails us. Yes,

> > even things you may think there is no cure for. It's just that big

> > pharma and western medicine don't recognize it and we have been

> > brainwashed into believing them.

> >

> > I started studying alternative health in 1999 as a result of the Y2K

> > scare. And after I became ill in 2003, I started focusing completely

> > on how to become healthy rather than dwelling on my illness. I did

> > this primarily because no one could tell me what was really wrong with

> > me. Along the way, I became aware that health encompasses 3 areas:

> > body, mind and spirit. I focused primarily on body first because I

> > couldn't think straight and needed to be able to think clearly before

> > I could focus on the other two. After about 18 months of focusing on

> > nutrition I had gotten to a point where I could finally work

> > part-time. At that time, I also became a Certified Nutrition and

> > Wellness Consultant.

> >

> > In December of 2005, I became angry and paced through my house yelling

> > at " God " that I was sick and tired of being sick and tired and I asked

> > him to please send me the answer. I didn't understand this at the

> > time, but when we are passionate about something (and anger is

> > passion) it manifests very quickly. Over the next few weeks, the

> > teachings of the Law of Attraction began coming to me from every

> > direction. It was so blatant in fact that I finally looked to the

> > heavens and said: OK, I get it!

> >

> > So started my journey into the mind and spirit part of the equation.

> > Since then I have learned a great deal and my life has changed for the

> > better.

> >

> > As you can see, there are people here who haven't yet delved into the

> > mind/spirit part of the equation. It's sometimes hard to grasp this

> > when you are ill but if you read books about health, the good ones

> > will always mention the mind and spirit part of the equation.

> >

> > For those of you who would like to learn more, Inga mentioned the

> > movie The Secret. This is the single most important documentary

> > that's been done on the subject and it has skyrocketed in popularity

> > over the last year. In fact, the teachers on The Secret have been

> > profiled on Larry King Live and were on the Oprah show about a week

> > ago. And, Oprah said she has always known this information and used

> > it to create her life but she just didn't know it was a secret! The

> > things on this documentary are not just some kind of woo woo stuff.

> > This is all backed up by science and some of the scientists are also

> > in the movie to speak about this as well.

> >

> > Yes, there is now scientific proof that the mind plays a pivotal role

> > in our health and our lives as a whole. If you watch the movie you

> > will see people who suffered terrible health issues and recovered by

> > using their minds. It will give you hope as well as a lot to think

> > about. Maybe we can have a great discussion about The Secret movie.

> >

> > If you took offense at my post, well, it was not meant to offend, but

> > instead, to help. It has obviously made many of you think and that's

> > a good thing.

> >

> > You can purchase The Secret at http://www.thesecret.tv and I am not

> > affiliated in any way. I watch this movie at least once a month. It

> > helps me to stay focused and gives me great hope for my future. You

> > can also view it online one time but I was never able to get that to

> work.

> >

> > Ginger

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Let me restate that since we are discussing individuality.

My paternal grandmother had diabetes- type 1 and my maternal grandfather had

diabetes-type 2. No one in my family has had diabetes of any kind. When I

spoke to my doctor about HC and growth hormone facilitating diabetes (type

2) and told him about my relatives, he said he often sees it skip a

generation. I am sure this is not always the case but in my family, none of

the above grandparents children ever had any kind of diabetes.

I think this is significant since I had grandparents on both mom and dad's

side (their parents) and none of their kids (and there were 15 kids total)

had it, it led me to believe my doctor's statement had some validity.

-- Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like

> flies?

> >

> > I knew that post would get feedback but I had no idea how much. It's

> > impossible for me to respond to everyone that responded to the post so

> > I will just say this:

> >

> > First of all, as background, I was raised in an argumentative angry

> > environment and had very negative thinking most of my life. I learned

> > to be very judgmental toward others and that I was never good enough.

> > I blamed the rest of the world on my poor lot in life as I had been

> > taught to do by my father. I do believe this has had a major impact

> > on the fact that my body has been out of balance for many years.

> >

> > I know now that beliefs are everything. What we believe in, creates

> > our reality. If we believe we cannot and will not get well, we are

> > right. I also know now, from my intense study of nutrition and health

> > that there is a cure for just about everything that ails us. Yes,

> > even things you may think there is no cure for. It's just that big

> > pharma and western medicine don't recognize it and we have been

> > brainwashed into believing them.

> >

> > I started studying alternative health in 1999 as a result of the Y2K

> > scare. And after I became ill in 2003, I started focusing completely

> > on how to become healthy rather than dwelling on my illness. I did

> > this primarily because no one could tell me what was really wrong with

> > me. Along the way, I became aware that health encompasses 3 areas:

> > body, mind and spirit. I focused primarily on body first because I

> > couldn't think straight and needed to be able to think clearly before

> > I could focus on the other two. After about 18 months of focusing on

> > nutrition I had gotten to a point where I could finally work

> > part-time. At that time, I also became a Certified Nutrition and

> > Wellness Consultant.

> >

> > In December of 2005, I became angry and paced through my house yelling

> > at " God " that I was sick and tired of being sick and tired and I asked

> > him to please send me the answer. I didn't understand this at the

> > time, but when we are passionate about something (and anger is

> > passion) it manifests very quickly. Over the next few weeks, the

> > teachings of the Law of Attraction began coming to me from every

> > direction. It was so blatant in fact that I finally looked to the

> > heavens and said: OK, I get it!

> >

> > So started my journey into the mind and spirit part of the equation.

> > Since then I have learned a great deal and my life has changed for the

> > better.

> >

> > As you can see, there are people here who haven't yet delved into the

> > mind/spirit part of the equation. It's sometimes hard to grasp this

> > when you are ill but if you read books about health, the good ones

> > will always mention the mind and spirit part of the equation.

> >

> > For those of you who would like to learn more, Inga mentioned the

> > movie The Secret. This is the single most important documentary

> > that's been done on the subject and it has skyrocketed in popularity

> > over the last year. In fact, the teachers on The Secret have been

> > profiled on Larry King Live and were on the Oprah show about a week

> > ago. And, Oprah said she has always known this information and used

> > it to create her life but she just didn't know it was a secret! The

> > things on this documentary are not just some kind of woo woo stuff.

> > This is all backed up by science and some of the scientists are also

> > in the movie to speak about this as well.

> >

> > Yes, there is now scientific proof that the mind plays a pivotal role

> > in our health and our lives as a whole. If you watch the movie you

> > will see people who suffered terrible health issues and recovered by

> > using their minds. It will give you hope as well as a lot to think

> > about. Maybe we can have a great discussion about The Secret movie.

> >

> > If you took offense at my post, well, it was not meant to offend, but

> > instead, to help. It has obviously made many of you think and that's

> > a good thing.

> >

> > You can purchase The Secret at http://www.thesecret.tv and I am not

> > affiliated in any way. I watch this movie at least once a month. It

> > helps me to stay focused and gives me great hope for my future. You

> > can also view it online one time but I was never able to get that to

> work.

> >

> > Ginger

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> > >

> >

> > Josie, there is a reason to get well. You cannot define yourself

> by

> > how others react to you. I am trying to forgive everyone who

seems

> > to turn their back at the time I need them most; they just don't

> > understand. If they did they would make more of an effort. That

> > said, it might be helpful to strive towards finding people who

are

> > in your shoes (which is why this yahoo group is wonderful), and

> find

> > other ways of finding peace and joy. I still believe part of the

> > healing process is trying not to judge those who might love you

> but

> > who don't know how to deal with the illness. By forgiving them,

> you

> > will have the energy to move on in more positive ways. I really

> > don't believe it's that people you have cared for all these

years

> > (friends and family) have suddenly forgotten you. It's just that

> > many people cannot deal with such a longstanding illness that

> makes

> > no sense to them. In order to feel empowered in their own life,

> they

> > use this to put the blame on us in order for them to feel in

> > control. They are confused and don't know what they can do to

> help,

> > so they would rather stay away from the situation. Just another

> way

> > to think about it. Janis

> >

> > > I think the social isolation is one of the most painful

aspects

> of

> > being sick.

> > > When you need loving support the most, you have to deal with

the

> > added

> > > burden of finding that your " friends " are really merely

> > acquaintances who

> > > desert you in your time of need, no matter how much you have

> > done for

> > > them. I found the rejection heartbreaking. I've had to get

> > used to it, though.

> > > When you have no family left alive, and your friends have

> > deserted you

> > > because you aren't " fun " to be around any more, it's hard to

> > find a reason

> > > for trying to get well. For a long time, it's been me and my

> > cat......

> > > Josie

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

> > >

> >

> > Josie, there is a reason to get well. You cannot define yourself

> by

> > how others react to you. I am trying to forgive everyone who

seems

> > to turn their back at the time I need them most; they just don't

> > understand. If they did they would make more of an effort. That

> > said, it might be helpful to strive towards finding people who

are

> > in your shoes (which is why this yahoo group is wonderful), and

> find

> > other ways of finding peace and joy. I still believe part of the

> > healing process is trying not to judge those who might love you

> but

> > who don't know how to deal with the illness. By forgiving them,

> you

> > will have the energy to move on in more positive ways. I really

> > don't believe it's that people you have cared for all these

years

> > (friends and family) have suddenly forgotten you. It's just that

> > many people cannot deal with such a longstanding illness that

> makes

> > no sense to them. In order to feel empowered in their own life,

> they

> > use this to put the blame on us in order for them to feel in

> > control. They are confused and don't know what they can do to

> help,

> > so they would rather stay away from the situation. Just another

> way

> > to think about it. Janis

> >

> > > I think the social isolation is one of the most painful

aspects

> of

> > being sick.

> > > When you need loving support the most, you have to deal with

the

> > added

> > > burden of finding that your " friends " are really merely

> > acquaintances who

> > > desert you in your time of need, no matter how much you have

> > done for

> > > them. I found the rejection heartbreaking. I've had to get

> > used to it, though.

> > > When you have no family left alive, and your friends have

> > deserted you

> > > because you aren't " fun " to be around any more, it's hard to

> > find a reason

> > > for trying to get well. For a long time, it's been me and my

> > cat......

> > > Josie

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

> > >

> >

> > Josie, there is a reason to get well. You cannot define yourself

> by

> > how others react to you. I am trying to forgive everyone who

seems

> > to turn their back at the time I need them most; they just don't

> > understand. If they did they would make more of an effort. That

> > said, it might be helpful to strive towards finding people who

are

> > in your shoes (which is why this yahoo group is wonderful), and

> find

> > other ways of finding peace and joy. I still believe part of the

> > healing process is trying not to judge those who might love you

> but

> > who don't know how to deal with the illness. By forgiving them,

> you

> > will have the energy to move on in more positive ways. I really

> > don't believe it's that people you have cared for all these

years

> > (friends and family) have suddenly forgotten you. It's just that

> > many people cannot deal with such a longstanding illness that

> makes

> > no sense to them. In order to feel empowered in their own life,

> they

> > use this to put the blame on us in order for them to feel in

> > control. They are confused and don't know what they can do to

> help,

> > so they would rather stay away from the situation. Just another

> way

> > to think about it. Janis

> >

> > > I think the social isolation is one of the most painful

aspects

> of

> > being sick.

> > > When you need loving support the most, you have to deal with

the

> > added

> > > burden of finding that your " friends " are really merely

> > acquaintances who

> > > desert you in your time of need, no matter how much you have

> > done for

> > > them. I found the rejection heartbreaking. I've had to get

> > used to it, though.

> > > When you have no family left alive, and your friends have

> > deserted you

> > > because you aren't " fun " to be around any more, it's hard to

> > find a reason

> > > for trying to get well. For a long time, it's been me and my

> > cat......

> > > Josie

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

please allow me to tell a bit of my story so that I can share a bit of what I'm

talking about in " real life " rather than explaining concepts and ideas in my

emails.

I began suffering from CFS back in the mid-90's. I kept up with all the latest

research, did candida, tons of supplements, saw different doctors, and nothing

helped much except I knew that were " looking for a cause and cure " .

Alas, in 2004, My CFS gets much much worse and since then, I have been disabled

from working and there have been periods in the last 4 years that I was

bedridden and mostly housebound. The symptoms were debilitating and I was too

weak to sometimes stand at the stove and prepare a quick something to eat. This

caused me to become highly dependent on my boyfriend of 12 years who pretty much

has sustained me through the last 4 years that I was real bad. So meanwhile I

kept up with the research. I find out from Dr. Teitelbaum's book that CFS and

Fibro are dysregulations of the hypothalamus and thus the break down in

virtually every system and that we need thyroid and adrenal hormone despite

normal labs. So I go after this and I get on thyroid and adrenal. I have a bit

of improvement, but certainly, nothing to write home about. So now this last

year, I was literally ready to give up and just wanted to die if I had to keep

living like this and being barely able to take care of myself. So I start

praying to God to reveal to me a way to regain my health. Alas, a woman from

the UK tells me about Dr. Mickel and his mickel therapy from the UK which he has

found to be the cure for CFS and Fibro. She tells me to get the book so I do.

I read and digest the book, and for the first time in years, I understood why I

was sick. In the book, Dr. Mickel tells us that CFS and fibro are hypothalamus

dysregulations which he calls " hypothalamitis " but it is triggered by ongoing

stress and that the symptoms are there to be protective and that if we start

listening to what they are trying to tell us and do what needs to be done, that

our symptoms will go away and we will be well. At first I thought this guy must

be nuts. I was so PHYSICALLY disabled by CFS symptoms and could not imagine how

anything I was doing could be contributing. So I decide I've got nothing to

lose and contact the only Mickel therapist in the US (so far) and she tells me

she does it by phone. She is in Vermont. So I have a one hour session on the

phone with her and she gives me this message and tells me to write it down:

" My symptoms are here to tell me to stop running away from my feelings and to

start listening to them and respond accordingly now " . She tells me that my

hypothalamus will start working right again if I do this and she gives me a lot

more details about what to do after I tell her a few things about myself and my

life. The very next day, I took off with this and it just all clicked for me.

Please don't get me wrong. I'm not saying this would work for every disease or

illness, and it is specifically set up for this supposed " hypothalamitis "

although now they are having success using it for depression, anxiety disorders,

irritable bowel syndrome, etc. So the next thing I know, everytime I have

symptoms, I start reading my message and I start doing things that I wasn't

doing before. I started speaking up to my boyfriend and I stopped walking away

from conflict (two things I had lots of trouble with). I started saying No

instead of YES when I meant NO. For days, I started this process with the help

of the therapist who told me I had to listen to " bodymind " and not " headmind "

and the next thing I knew, everytime I did this, my symptoms reduced and I could

continue to do what I wanted. Dr. Mickel explains that what we've been told so

far about CFS and Fibro which is to take it easy and don't overdo it physically

is exactly what we should not be doing and was keeping us worse. The next thing

I knew, by doing this therapy, I went from sometimes bedbound to out shopping

and doing pretty much what I wanted. A few months later, I even traveled alone

from Boston to Washington DC to see my son and everybody was amazed.

Okay so here's what happened and now I'm really sick again. My symptoms have

returned after being virtually symptom free for 5 months. About a month ago,

" bodymind " started telling me that it wasn't happy in this relationship with my

boyfriend anymore and wasn't comfortable here with him and that it wanted to " go

home " and be by myself. " headmind " was telling me that this simply wouldn't be

right since he had stood by my side for the last 4 years and I couldn't do that

to him because it would hurt him and he doesn't deserve to be hurt. So

basically, I stopped my therapy because in reality, I believe that I've wanted

out of this relationship for a long time and that if I hadn't gotten so sick, I

would have left it a long time ago. The problem is just what the book talks

about " headmind " tells us what we should, must and have to do, and we listen to

that instead of listening to " bodymind " which is telling us through our symptoms

what it really wants us to do. We allow things like guilt and fear to get in

the way and this is what gets us into trouble. Right now, I am very symptomatic

again and very dependent upon him again. The reason I didn't and don't leave is

fear. I am afraid to leave because I feel so guilty, and on the other hand,

being sick again sucks and now he's taking care of me all over again. The

hardest part for me about leaving is that I've got the nicest guy in the world

who loves me and is there for me, but I have realized that I have outgrown this

man and that we simply don't have much in common anymore and the energy between

us is not what I consider conducive to my well-being and health. Now I'm stuck

and I had another phone appt. with my Mickel therapist a few days ago and

realize that the only way now I'm going to get rid of my symptoms again is if I

leave this relationship and go home. It's scary and it almost feels safer to

stay here, but I know that's going to keep me sick because my body knows the

truth, not my head and I have to listen to my body's messages in order to

recover for good. I hope this helps somebody else here because the point is

that I can't help but wonder how many other people here are not being authentic

in what their body is really telling them, not speaking up, not making decisions

and taking action, and not creating the life and environment they really desire

because " headmind " is causing them to deny and explain away and interrupt these

messages. I am living proof of this because I was well for almost 6 months

after I had tried EVERYTHING, including the Fibro and Fatigue Centers who do

recognize CFS and Fibro as a hypothalamus dysregulation but try to treat it

medically. This is why people don't get well even when the hormones are all

replaced with these two illnesses, because we are not listening to our body. I

don't know when and how I'm going to get up the courage to do what I need to do

now, but all day today I felt so uncomfortable here and longed to go home and be

in my own space but I was too afraid. I don't want to hurt this poor guy

because he's good and he's been there for me. My body only sends symptoms when

I stop my practicing my therapy of reading my message and responding to what

it's trying to tell me.

Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like

> > flies?

> >

> > > Val,

> > >

> > > I hear what you are saying. I would like to share with you my

> > idea

> > > of a genetic illness. To me, genetics is what one is predisposed

> > to

> > > and where their weaknesses lie if they are to breakdown and

> > become

> > > unbalanced. Thus, I was prone to endocrine problems, and that's

> > > what I got once stress, and the way I was operating were no

> > longer

> > > working. I don't believe that we have to get what we are

> > > genetically predisposed to if we don't set ourselves up to be

> > sick

> > > to begin with. I also believe that our bodies can heal if we do

> > the

> > > necessary work on ourselves and our lives.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

please allow me to tell a bit of my story so that I can share a bit of what I'm

talking about in " real life " rather than explaining concepts and ideas in my

emails.

I began suffering from CFS back in the mid-90's. I kept up with all the latest

research, did candida, tons of supplements, saw different doctors, and nothing

helped much except I knew that were " looking for a cause and cure " .

Alas, in 2004, My CFS gets much much worse and since then, I have been disabled

from working and there have been periods in the last 4 years that I was

bedridden and mostly housebound. The symptoms were debilitating and I was too

weak to sometimes stand at the stove and prepare a quick something to eat. This

caused me to become highly dependent on my boyfriend of 12 years who pretty much

has sustained me through the last 4 years that I was real bad. So meanwhile I

kept up with the research. I find out from Dr. Teitelbaum's book that CFS and

Fibro are dysregulations of the hypothalamus and thus the break down in

virtually every system and that we need thyroid and adrenal hormone despite

normal labs. So I go after this and I get on thyroid and adrenal. I have a bit

of improvement, but certainly, nothing to write home about. So now this last

year, I was literally ready to give up and just wanted to die if I had to keep

living like this and being barely able to take care of myself. So I start

praying to God to reveal to me a way to regain my health. Alas, a woman from

the UK tells me about Dr. Mickel and his mickel therapy from the UK which he has

found to be the cure for CFS and Fibro. She tells me to get the book so I do.

I read and digest the book, and for the first time in years, I understood why I

was sick. In the book, Dr. Mickel tells us that CFS and fibro are hypothalamus

dysregulations which he calls " hypothalamitis " but it is triggered by ongoing

stress and that the symptoms are there to be protective and that if we start

listening to what they are trying to tell us and do what needs to be done, that

our symptoms will go away and we will be well. At first I thought this guy must

be nuts. I was so PHYSICALLY disabled by CFS symptoms and could not imagine how

anything I was doing could be contributing. So I decide I've got nothing to

lose and contact the only Mickel therapist in the US (so far) and she tells me

she does it by phone. She is in Vermont. So I have a one hour session on the

phone with her and she gives me this message and tells me to write it down:

" My symptoms are here to tell me to stop running away from my feelings and to

start listening to them and respond accordingly now " . She tells me that my

hypothalamus will start working right again if I do this and she gives me a lot

more details about what to do after I tell her a few things about myself and my

life. The very next day, I took off with this and it just all clicked for me.

Please don't get me wrong. I'm not saying this would work for every disease or

illness, and it is specifically set up for this supposed " hypothalamitis "

although now they are having success using it for depression, anxiety disorders,

irritable bowel syndrome, etc. So the next thing I know, everytime I have

symptoms, I start reading my message and I start doing things that I wasn't

doing before. I started speaking up to my boyfriend and I stopped walking away

from conflict (two things I had lots of trouble with). I started saying No

instead of YES when I meant NO. For days, I started this process with the help

of the therapist who told me I had to listen to " bodymind " and not " headmind "

and the next thing I knew, everytime I did this, my symptoms reduced and I could

continue to do what I wanted. Dr. Mickel explains that what we've been told so

far about CFS and Fibro which is to take it easy and don't overdo it physically

is exactly what we should not be doing and was keeping us worse. The next thing

I knew, by doing this therapy, I went from sometimes bedbound to out shopping

and doing pretty much what I wanted. A few months later, I even traveled alone

from Boston to Washington DC to see my son and everybody was amazed.

Okay so here's what happened and now I'm really sick again. My symptoms have

returned after being virtually symptom free for 5 months. About a month ago,

" bodymind " started telling me that it wasn't happy in this relationship with my

boyfriend anymore and wasn't comfortable here with him and that it wanted to " go

home " and be by myself. " headmind " was telling me that this simply wouldn't be

right since he had stood by my side for the last 4 years and I couldn't do that

to him because it would hurt him and he doesn't deserve to be hurt. So

basically, I stopped my therapy because in reality, I believe that I've wanted

out of this relationship for a long time and that if I hadn't gotten so sick, I

would have left it a long time ago. The problem is just what the book talks

about " headmind " tells us what we should, must and have to do, and we listen to

that instead of listening to " bodymind " which is telling us through our symptoms

what it really wants us to do. We allow things like guilt and fear to get in

the way and this is what gets us into trouble. Right now, I am very symptomatic

again and very dependent upon him again. The reason I didn't and don't leave is

fear. I am afraid to leave because I feel so guilty, and on the other hand,

being sick again sucks and now he's taking care of me all over again. The

hardest part for me about leaving is that I've got the nicest guy in the world

who loves me and is there for me, but I have realized that I have outgrown this

man and that we simply don't have much in common anymore and the energy between

us is not what I consider conducive to my well-being and health. Now I'm stuck

and I had another phone appt. with my Mickel therapist a few days ago and

realize that the only way now I'm going to get rid of my symptoms again is if I

leave this relationship and go home. It's scary and it almost feels safer to

stay here, but I know that's going to keep me sick because my body knows the

truth, not my head and I have to listen to my body's messages in order to

recover for good. I hope this helps somebody else here because the point is

that I can't help but wonder how many other people here are not being authentic

in what their body is really telling them, not speaking up, not making decisions

and taking action, and not creating the life and environment they really desire

because " headmind " is causing them to deny and explain away and interrupt these

messages. I am living proof of this because I was well for almost 6 months

after I had tried EVERYTHING, including the Fibro and Fatigue Centers who do

recognize CFS and Fibro as a hypothalamus dysregulation but try to treat it

medically. This is why people don't get well even when the hormones are all

replaced with these two illnesses, because we are not listening to our body. I

don't know when and how I'm going to get up the courage to do what I need to do

now, but all day today I felt so uncomfortable here and longed to go home and be

in my own space but I was too afraid. I don't want to hurt this poor guy

because he's good and he's been there for me. My body only sends symptoms when

I stop my practicing my therapy of reading my message and responding to what

it's trying to tell me.

Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like

> > flies?

> >

> > > Val,

> > >

> > > I hear what you are saying. I would like to share with you my

> > idea

> > > of a genetic illness. To me, genetics is what one is predisposed

> > to

> > > and where their weaknesses lie if they are to breakdown and

> > become

> > > unbalanced. Thus, I was prone to endocrine problems, and that's

> > > what I got once stress, and the way I was operating were no

> > longer

> > > working. I don't believe that we have to get what we are

> > > genetically predisposed to if we don't set ourselves up to be

> > sick

> > > to begin with. I also believe that our bodies can heal if we do

> > the

> > > necessary work on ourselves and our lives.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

please allow me to tell a bit of my story so that I can share a bit of what I'm

talking about in " real life " rather than explaining concepts and ideas in my

emails.

I began suffering from CFS back in the mid-90's. I kept up with all the latest

research, did candida, tons of supplements, saw different doctors, and nothing

helped much except I knew that were " looking for a cause and cure " .

Alas, in 2004, My CFS gets much much worse and since then, I have been disabled

from working and there have been periods in the last 4 years that I was

bedridden and mostly housebound. The symptoms were debilitating and I was too

weak to sometimes stand at the stove and prepare a quick something to eat. This

caused me to become highly dependent on my boyfriend of 12 years who pretty much

has sustained me through the last 4 years that I was real bad. So meanwhile I

kept up with the research. I find out from Dr. Teitelbaum's book that CFS and

Fibro are dysregulations of the hypothalamus and thus the break down in

virtually every system and that we need thyroid and adrenal hormone despite

normal labs. So I go after this and I get on thyroid and adrenal. I have a bit

of improvement, but certainly, nothing to write home about. So now this last

year, I was literally ready to give up and just wanted to die if I had to keep

living like this and being barely able to take care of myself. So I start

praying to God to reveal to me a way to regain my health. Alas, a woman from

the UK tells me about Dr. Mickel and his mickel therapy from the UK which he has

found to be the cure for CFS and Fibro. She tells me to get the book so I do.

I read and digest the book, and for the first time in years, I understood why I

was sick. In the book, Dr. Mickel tells us that CFS and fibro are hypothalamus

dysregulations which he calls " hypothalamitis " but it is triggered by ongoing

stress and that the symptoms are there to be protective and that if we start

listening to what they are trying to tell us and do what needs to be done, that

our symptoms will go away and we will be well. At first I thought this guy must

be nuts. I was so PHYSICALLY disabled by CFS symptoms and could not imagine how

anything I was doing could be contributing. So I decide I've got nothing to

lose and contact the only Mickel therapist in the US (so far) and she tells me

she does it by phone. She is in Vermont. So I have a one hour session on the

phone with her and she gives me this message and tells me to write it down:

" My symptoms are here to tell me to stop running away from my feelings and to

start listening to them and respond accordingly now " . She tells me that my

hypothalamus will start working right again if I do this and she gives me a lot

more details about what to do after I tell her a few things about myself and my

life. The very next day, I took off with this and it just all clicked for me.

Please don't get me wrong. I'm not saying this would work for every disease or

illness, and it is specifically set up for this supposed " hypothalamitis "

although now they are having success using it for depression, anxiety disorders,

irritable bowel syndrome, etc. So the next thing I know, everytime I have

symptoms, I start reading my message and I start doing things that I wasn't

doing before. I started speaking up to my boyfriend and I stopped walking away

from conflict (two things I had lots of trouble with). I started saying No

instead of YES when I meant NO. For days, I started this process with the help

of the therapist who told me I had to listen to " bodymind " and not " headmind "

and the next thing I knew, everytime I did this, my symptoms reduced and I could

continue to do what I wanted. Dr. Mickel explains that what we've been told so

far about CFS and Fibro which is to take it easy and don't overdo it physically

is exactly what we should not be doing and was keeping us worse. The next thing

I knew, by doing this therapy, I went from sometimes bedbound to out shopping

and doing pretty much what I wanted. A few months later, I even traveled alone

from Boston to Washington DC to see my son and everybody was amazed.

Okay so here's what happened and now I'm really sick again. My symptoms have

returned after being virtually symptom free for 5 months. About a month ago,

" bodymind " started telling me that it wasn't happy in this relationship with my

boyfriend anymore and wasn't comfortable here with him and that it wanted to " go

home " and be by myself. " headmind " was telling me that this simply wouldn't be

right since he had stood by my side for the last 4 years and I couldn't do that

to him because it would hurt him and he doesn't deserve to be hurt. So

basically, I stopped my therapy because in reality, I believe that I've wanted

out of this relationship for a long time and that if I hadn't gotten so sick, I

would have left it a long time ago. The problem is just what the book talks

about " headmind " tells us what we should, must and have to do, and we listen to

that instead of listening to " bodymind " which is telling us through our symptoms

what it really wants us to do. We allow things like guilt and fear to get in

the way and this is what gets us into trouble. Right now, I am very symptomatic

again and very dependent upon him again. The reason I didn't and don't leave is

fear. I am afraid to leave because I feel so guilty, and on the other hand,

being sick again sucks and now he's taking care of me all over again. The

hardest part for me about leaving is that I've got the nicest guy in the world

who loves me and is there for me, but I have realized that I have outgrown this

man and that we simply don't have much in common anymore and the energy between

us is not what I consider conducive to my well-being and health. Now I'm stuck

and I had another phone appt. with my Mickel therapist a few days ago and

realize that the only way now I'm going to get rid of my symptoms again is if I

leave this relationship and go home. It's scary and it almost feels safer to

stay here, but I know that's going to keep me sick because my body knows the

truth, not my head and I have to listen to my body's messages in order to

recover for good. I hope this helps somebody else here because the point is

that I can't help but wonder how many other people here are not being authentic

in what their body is really telling them, not speaking up, not making decisions

and taking action, and not creating the life and environment they really desire

because " headmind " is causing them to deny and explain away and interrupt these

messages. I am living proof of this because I was well for almost 6 months

after I had tried EVERYTHING, including the Fibro and Fatigue Centers who do

recognize CFS and Fibro as a hypothalamus dysregulation but try to treat it

medically. This is why people don't get well even when the hormones are all

replaced with these two illnesses, because we are not listening to our body. I

don't know when and how I'm going to get up the courage to do what I need to do

now, but all day today I felt so uncomfortable here and longed to go home and be

in my own space but I was too afraid. I don't want to hurt this poor guy

because he's good and he's been there for me. My body only sends symptoms when

I stop my practicing my therapy of reading my message and responding to what

it's trying to tell me.

Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like

> > flies?

> >

> > > Val,

> > >

> > > I hear what you are saying. I would like to share with you my

> > idea

> > > of a genetic illness. To me, genetics is what one is predisposed

> > to

> > > and where their weaknesses lie if they are to breakdown and

> > become

> > > unbalanced. Thus, I was prone to endocrine problems, and that's

> > > what I got once stress, and the way I was operating were no

> > longer

> > > working. I don't believe that we have to get what we are

> > > genetically predisposed to if we don't set ourselves up to be

> > sick

> > > to begin with. I also believe that our bodies can heal if we do

> > the

> > > necessary work on ourselves and our lives.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Well, perhaps you've done enough. If she wants the money, she can get

the account number to you.

Friendly reminder...you don't OWE her the money, you're giving it to

her out of the goodness of your heart. Doesn't sound like she even

wants it! I'd be earning some interest on it & not doing a whole lot

more!

As for your brother buying the house...

If you sell it to him & something random goes wrong with the house,

will you be able to live it down with him? Perhaps it might be better

do just get a realtor & deal with the inconvenience of selling it to a

stranger!

Best of luck to you in both of these endeavors, !

Warmly,

> >

> > I don't think that people turn their backs cause they don't

> understand. I

> > realized that my nurturing attracted people who wanted that nurturing

> > without having to return it. When we became ill, they had to start

> > returning the nurturing and they did not want to.

> >

>

> Exactly! And it's a startling discovery when you're going along with

> your life all normal-like & suddenly become deathly ill, only to

> realize that those whom you thought were there for you are too much

> into their own whatever to care for you the way you've cared for them.

>

> ly, I think that I'm doing pretty well, considering that I became

> ill & discovered this in October & it's now February - a mere four

> months later! - and I'm already working to put it in its place in my

life!

>

> Warmly,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, perhaps you've done enough. If she wants the money, she can get

the account number to you.

Friendly reminder...you don't OWE her the money, you're giving it to

her out of the goodness of your heart. Doesn't sound like she even

wants it! I'd be earning some interest on it & not doing a whole lot

more!

As for your brother buying the house...

If you sell it to him & something random goes wrong with the house,

will you be able to live it down with him? Perhaps it might be better

do just get a realtor & deal with the inconvenience of selling it to a

stranger!

Best of luck to you in both of these endeavors, !

Warmly,

> >

> > I don't think that people turn their backs cause they don't

> understand. I

> > realized that my nurturing attracted people who wanted that nurturing

> > without having to return it. When we became ill, they had to start

> > returning the nurturing and they did not want to.

> >

>

> Exactly! And it's a startling discovery when you're going along with

> your life all normal-like & suddenly become deathly ill, only to

> realize that those whom you thought were there for you are too much

> into their own whatever to care for you the way you've cared for them.

>

> ly, I think that I'm doing pretty well, considering that I became

> ill & discovered this in October & it's now February - a mere four

> months later! - and I'm already working to put it in its place in my

life!

>

> Warmly,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, perhaps you've done enough. If she wants the money, she can get

the account number to you.

Friendly reminder...you don't OWE her the money, you're giving it to

her out of the goodness of your heart. Doesn't sound like she even

wants it! I'd be earning some interest on it & not doing a whole lot

more!

As for your brother buying the house...

If you sell it to him & something random goes wrong with the house,

will you be able to live it down with him? Perhaps it might be better

do just get a realtor & deal with the inconvenience of selling it to a

stranger!

Best of luck to you in both of these endeavors, !

Warmly,

> >

> > I don't think that people turn their backs cause they don't

> understand. I

> > realized that my nurturing attracted people who wanted that nurturing

> > without having to return it. When we became ill, they had to start

> > returning the nurturing and they did not want to.

> >

>

> Exactly! And it's a startling discovery when you're going along with

> your life all normal-like & suddenly become deathly ill, only to

> realize that those whom you thought were there for you are too much

> into their own whatever to care for you the way you've cared for them.

>

> ly, I think that I'm doing pretty well, considering that I became

> ill & discovered this in October & it's now February - a mere four

> months later! - and I'm already working to put it in its place in my

life!

>

> Warmly,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

:

I have decided if he wants the house he will get a loan and pay the price

anyone else would. As for my sister, this has gone on long enough. If she

does not get me the account number or tell me how she wants the money AND it

is convenient for me, then I will not be sending it. I put it in a cd for 5

months cause she gave me the runaround then. Now the CD has matured and

still the runaround. It matures on the 25th and if I don't have an answer

by 5 days after, it is going back into an interest-paying account.

I think she is playing victim since she was not in dad's will (she is not

his biological child but he raised her from the time she was 3 or so). Dad

did tell me to give her some money and I am following his wishes but I do

not see why she is making it hard on me so I am forgetting about it until

she contacts me. I have hounded her enough and I sure could use the money

myself.!

-- Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like flies?

Well, perhaps you've done enough. If she wants the money, she can get

the account number to you.

Friendly reminder...you don't OWE her the money, you're giving it to

her out of the goodness of your heart. Doesn't sound like she even

wants it! I'd be earning some interest on it & not doing a whole lot

more!

As for your brother buying the house...

If you sell it to him & something random goes wrong with the house,

will you be able to live it down with him? Perhaps it might be better

do just get a realtor & deal with the inconvenience of selling it to a

stranger!

Best of luck to you in both of these endeavors, !

Warmly,

> >

> > I don't think that people turn their backs cause they don't

> understand. I

> > realized that my nurturing attracted people who wanted that nurturing

> > without having to return it. When we became ill, they had to start

> > returning the nurturing and they did not want to.

> >

>

> Exactly! And it's a startling discovery when you're going along with

> your life all normal-like & suddenly become deathly ill, only to

> realize that those whom you thought were there for you are too much

> into their own whatever to care for you the way you've cared for them.

>

> ly, I think that I'm doing pretty well, considering that I became

> ill & discovered this in October & it's now February - a mere four

> months later! - and I'm already working to put it in its place in my

life!

>

> Warmly,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>