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I cannot believe they would send amateurs with little training and NO

English, to install a 3k slab in my kitchen! I had to stop them during the

install cause they were leaving a 2 inch gap due to the crappy cabinet

install. So the cabinet guys had to come out while the counter guys waited.

My bar is installed with a 2 or 3 inch gap. I will call them but I can

guarantee that nothing will be done, I will be told that the cuts are OK. I

have seen this time and again, this calking to cover bad miter corners and

then telling me that is how it is done. It does not seem to matter who you

go to. They all employ these poor non-English speaking guys and expect them

to do great work with little training.

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if this is a professional install THEY have to replace things

they damage. They have insurance for this.. complain!

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I cannot believe they would send amateurs with little training and NO

English, to install a 3k slab in my kitchen! I had to stop them during the

install cause they were leaving a 2 inch gap due to the crappy cabinet

install. So the cabinet guys had to come out while the counter guys waited.

My bar is installed with a 2 or 3 inch gap. I will call them but I can

guarantee that nothing will be done, I will be told that the cuts are OK. I

have seen this time and again, this calking to cover bad miter corners and

then telling me that is how it is done. It does not seem to matter who you

go to. They all employ these poor non-English speaking guys and expect them

to do great work with little training.

-- Re: Re: Adjusting to Hc

if this is a professional install THEY have to replace things

they damage. They have insurance for this.. complain!

--

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My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations

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I had mine removed the same way. The oxygen thing kept popping off my nose

and I tried to hold my breath. One cannot talk or even ask to have the

oxygen placed properly, with the damn and equipment in your mouth. I got

extremely poisoned. The dentist did not seem to think much about that nor

took any responsibility. His attitude was that he did all he could and I

should use his naturopath, who works out of his office, to detox.

I am in Houston. The amalgam removal cost more than a face, neck and eye

plastic surgery combined!

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> How are you having your amalgams removed? I went to a very

expensive " pro "

> who contaminated the heck out of me.

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> -------Original Message-------

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>> I am having them removed via oxygen and dental dam,i have had 3/4

of them rmoved already,and replaced with compatible materials as per

compatibility blood test,i have 4 more to go early january then would

like to be ready for some form of chelation.

BTW where are you located?

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Yes, I had them all replaced. In my town, only 3 dentists do the work. My

dentist replaced most of my amalgams with cerek or a composite filling.

Aside from my bite being off after multiple attempts of his fixing it and

the mercury poisoning, my teeth feel great.

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> > How are you having your amalgams removed? I went to a very

> expensive " pro "

> > who contaminated the heck out of me.

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> > -------Original Message-------

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>?Sorry to hear of your bad experience,the removal should not cost

any more than regular dental work as they are doing nothing

different aside from he extra protection.

It always helps to do research before spending your hard earned

money,though it seems alot of dentists take advantage of those who

seem desperate for help.

Personally i beleive there is no perfect dentist you will always

find a flaw or something you don't like in any one you see,you just

need to be careful,and get referrals and testemonials from

individuals themselves.

Have you had all your amalgams removed/replaced?

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DEMAND, . The Squeaky Wheel Gets the Grease. My husband is in

construction, he is a supervisor for a very large outfit now that only does

multi-million dollar projects for " The Rich and Famous " in Fairfield County

and Westchester County. ALL the subs (cabinets, drywall, flooring,

insulators, landscapers, foundations, etc.) employ workers that do not speak

English. And it is not just one nationality either, my husband now knows

how to swear in Spanish, German, Russian, Portugese, Irish, Polish, and

who-knows what else!

But, they will walk all over you, unless you DEMAND to be treated properly!

Best,

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http://www.CurlyRescue.com

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> if this is a professional install THEY have to replace things

> they damage. They have insurance for this.. complain!

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> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

> My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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DEMAND, . The Squeaky Wheel Gets the Grease. My husband is in

construction, he is a supervisor for a very large outfit now that only does

multi-million dollar projects for " The Rich and Famous " in Fairfield County

and Westchester County. ALL the subs (cabinets, drywall, flooring,

insulators, landscapers, foundations, etc.) employ workers that do not speak

English. And it is not just one nationality either, my husband now knows

how to swear in Spanish, German, Russian, Portugese, Irish, Polish, and

who-knows what else!

But, they will walk all over you, unless you DEMAND to be treated properly!

Best,

http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com

http://www.CurlyRescue.com

View my Blog ~ http://shellyct.blogspot.com/

If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself.

What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us.

-- Hermann Hesse

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> if this is a professional install THEY have to replace things

> they damage. They have insurance for this.. complain!

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

> My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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I have been demanding for a month. MY kitchen has been dismantled for a

month due to their crappy installation. Then the countertop people do a

crappy installation. Believe me, I called Lowe's corporate office and they

just punt it back to the store. Lowe's manager is actually trying to find

a dishwasher with slightly different dimensions. Won't work, they shorted

it an inch or more, only an 18 " inch will fit now and why they think they

can find a 24 " to fit, when all 24s are 24s, is beyond me.

I could just go on and on. The standard here is crappy. In fact, I live in

a very modest house with a kitchen better than people in houses 4 times my

price. I guess no one questions anything. Believe me, I am complaining and

not settling. Which leaves my kitchen dismantled!

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DEMAND, . The Squeaky Wheel Gets the Grease. My husband is in

construction, he is a supervisor for a very large outfit now that only does

multi-million dollar projects for " The Rich and Famous " in Fairfield County

and Westchester County. ALL the subs (cabinets, drywall, flooring,

insulators, landscapers, foundations, etc.) employ workers that do not speak

English. And it is not just one nationality either, my husband now knows

how to swear in Spanish, German, Russian, Portugese, Irish, Polish, and

who-knows what else!

But, they will walk all over you, unless you DEMAND to be treated properly!

Best,

http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com

http://www.CurlyRescue.com

View my Blog ~ http://shellyct.blogspot.com/

If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself.

What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us.

-- Hermann Hesse

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> if this is a professional install THEY have to replace things

> they damage. They have insurance for this.. complain!

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

> My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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Oh, well, there is your problem right there. You used Lowe's installation

service? You are not getting the " cream of the crop " in " installation

experts " at all. They generally are either those that cannot make a

business for themselves (due to their shoddy workmanship?), or those just

starting out, learning, before trying to make it on their own. Nobody with

any skill, expertise, or pride in workmanship is going to work for peanuts

at Lowes installation dept. (Gosh, I'm really praying nobody here has a

friend or relative that does this work for Lowes or Home Depot, lol!)

Threaten them with the Better Business Bureau...

Best,

http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com

http://www.CurlyRescue.com

View my Blog ~ http://shellyct.blogspot.com/

If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself.

What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us.

-- Hermann Hesse

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>> if this is a professional install THEY have to replace things

>> they damage. They have insurance for this.. complain!

>>

>> --

>> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>> My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations

>> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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I wanted the compatibility blood test but my doc has an in house naturopath

who does some kind of testing by having you hold a piece of metal and touch

each tooth.

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>

> How are you having your amalgams removed? I went to a very

expensive " pro "

> who contaminated the heck out of me.

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

>> I am having them removed via oxygen and dental dam,i have had 3/4

of them rmoved already,and replaced with compatible materials as per

compatibility blood test,i have 4 more to go early january then would

like to be ready for some form of chelation.

BTW where are you located?

>

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What kind of timing adjustments are you referring to with Armour? I decided

to skip the bedtime dose but maybe I should start it again.

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Posted by: " C. Mannelli, Ed.D. " :

>Since I increased my Armour dose, I am having sleeping problems and wake

up

at 2:00 in the morning. Of course it could be the stress of spending

thousands of dollars on a kitchen remodel and having people come in to

install who cannot communicate with me due to language barriars and who

trash the expensive items I have bought. >>

OMG, that would kill me for sure!

I also have been having a bad case of waking up at 2 or 3 a.m. and not

being able to get back to sleep, and taking tons of stuff and waking up

feeling bad. But, I am optimistic it will pass as my body adjusts to all

the good things I am giving it.

Have you tried adjusting the timing of your Armour? I can never believe

how significant the timing turns out to be. A few days ago I was

complaining about losing my appetite on the h.c., but when I moved the

doses to meal times, instead of every 4 hours, voila! the problem cleared

up and I am my old hungry self.

Best wishes to you for the new year,

Dahlia

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In a message dated 01/01/2007 16:11:09 GMT Standard Time,

smann writes:

I don't get why palps only when laying down at night. It is like laying

down triggers them.

I sometimes get this problem also and don't know why.

I have found that it sometimes helps to wait until the very last minute

before popping the Armour and then hopefully I am asleep before the Armour kicks

in, just in case of palps.

It is related to stress with me I am beginning to think.

Mo

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In a message dated 01/01/2007 17:23:24 GMT Standard Time,

lynworth@... writes:

Now I'm wondering why? I had taken 1 grain just before I went to bed

which is my normal dose then and the palps started and when I took 1

grain after breakfast they stopped.

Well this where I am recently beginning to suspect (for me anyway Lynda)

that maybe on those nights where I had palps (and there was no obvious reason

like an Armour increase), than perhaps I was stressed and my available cortisol

was being used up to deal with this, hence none left over for conversion of

blood thyroid hormone into cells.

I posted that the exact reverse seemed to happen to me the other day i.e.

there was a resolution of extreme stress, my body went limp, my temps and energy

went up.

Mo

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In a message dated 01/01/2007 17:50:18 GMT Standard Time,

lynworth@... writes:

Today I've had hot sweats again and this could be alcohol related.

Geez, one little measure of whisky, that's all!!

Ah you have to watch out for that irish whiskey Lynda, it is an acquired

skill, lol

This is the first Crimbo for many years that I have not bought myself a

bottle of good Irish malt. But you would not want to dilute that with anything

at

all, some would say even a drop of pure spring water would be nothing less

than sacrelige (sp?)

Mo

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In a message dated 01/01/2007 18:17:30 GMT Standard Time,

lynworth@... writes:

Now that IS sacrilege

Indeed it is but not as big a sin as if it were a decent IRISH malt, lol!

That would be very serious indeed as opposed to serious you understand!

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I am taking 2 grains in the morning, a half grain at lunch, a half grain at

dinner and sometimes a half a bedtime. I get palps when I lay down at night

I then add HC (10 in am, 5 at lunch, 2 or 5 at bedtime).

I don't get why palps only when laying down at night. It is like laying

down triggers them.

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What kind of timing adjustments are you referring to with Armour? I

decided

to skip the bedtime dose but maybe I should start it again.

-------Original Message-------

Posted by: " C. Mannelli, Ed.D. " :

>Since I increased my Armour dose, I am having sleeping problems and wake

>up

>at 2:00 in the morning.

Posted by: Dahlia

>Have you tried adjusting the timing of your Armour? I can never believe

>how significant the timing turns out to be.

Hi ,

What I mean by timing adjustments is for example taking armour doses 8

hours apart instead of 4 hours or 4 instead of 8 hours. I know some

folks here take armour in 3 doses, some in 2 doses and some all at once.

I just meant something like that.

How do you take your Armour? And do you take your h.c. at the same time?

Maybe Val would have some good advice for you on waking up in the

wee....

Dahlia

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>>I don't get why palps only when laying down at night. It is like laying

down triggers them<<

I am not certain why this happens either but I had this for several YEARS!

Taking 400MG Magnesium at bedtime has stopped this.. or I finally go tmy

sadr4enals settled enough to stop it, but I seriously think it was magnesium

that helped it. I do not take calcium.

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I had this last night but it's strange because I've never had palps at

night since starting armour.

Last night I had just got into bed when it started and it was VERY

bad. My heart felt like it was doing its normal beat followed by 3

fast beats, like boom, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM

It went on for about 2 hours during which I dozed a little and then I

woke up soaking wet with perspiration. Eventually got to sleep about

1.30 and when I woke up at 9am (VERY late for me) my heart was still

doing this crazy thing.

I never take my armour until I've had breakfast and brushed my teeth.

In fact, I was wondering whether I should take any at all. Well, I

decided to take 1 grain instead of my usual 2 grains. Within 15

minutes the palps had stopped!

Now I'm wondering why? I had taken 1 grain just before I went to bed

which is my normal dose then and the palps started and when I took 1

grain after breakfast they stopped. I took my pulse while I was

eating breakfast and it was 108, by the time the armour had kicked in

it was 82

Lynda

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> I sometimes get this problem also and don't know why.

> I have found that it sometimes helps to wait until the very last

> minute

> before popping the Armour and then hopefully I am asleep before the

> Armour kicks

> in, just in case of palps.

> It is related to stress with me I am beginning to think.

>

> Mo

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I have had HYPO palps! That is why it is a very unrliable symptom or

determining if you are taking too much Armoru or not. You can get palps

from either too much or too little thyroid.

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I can understand that but I've had no stress whatsoever, not yesterday

and not for the whole week.

I'm wondering if it has to do with the h/c increase. OK Val, can you

answer this?

I increased to 30mg h/c at the end of November. It couldn't possibly

have taken this long to use up all the extra thyroid floating around,

could it?

The only other thing I can think of is that yesterday afternoon I had

an Irish coffee. I don't normally drink alcohol so perhaps this

could have caused it but that was around 3pm and I didn't go to bed

until 10.30pm, the palps only started once I was in bed.

Today I've had hot sweats again and this could be alcohol related.

Geez, one little measure of whisky, that's all!!

Lynda

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> Well this where I am recently beginning to suspect (for me anyway

> Lynda)

> that maybe on those nights where I had palps (and there was no

> obvious reason

> like an Armour increase), than perhaps I was stressed and my

> available cortisol

> was being used up to deal with this, hence none left over for

> conversion of

> blood thyroid hormone into cells.

> I posted that the exact reverse seemed to happen to me the other day

> i.e.

> there was a resolution of extreme stress, my body went limp, my

> temps and energy

> went up.

>

> Mo

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I was told to take Armour before eating and HC after eating so I take my Armour

about 30 min.s before eating. I do one grain in the morning and at noon and .75

grains at dinner. Why take it at bed time am I missing something.

Phil

Lynda wrote:

I had this last night but it's strange because I've never had palps at

night since starting armour.

Last night I had just got into bed when it started and it was VERY

bad. My heart felt like it was doing its normal beat followed by 3

fast beats, like boom, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM

It went on for about 2 hours during which I dozed a little and then I

woke up soaking wet with perspiration. Eventually got to sleep about

1.30 and when I woke up at 9am (VERY late for me) my heart was still

doing this crazy thing.

I never take my armour until I've had breakfast and brushed my teeth.

In fact, I was wondering whether I should take any at all. Well, I

decided to take 1 grain instead of my usual 2 grains. Within 15

minutes the palps had stopped!

Now I'm wondering why? I had taken 1 grain just before I went to bed

which is my normal dose then and the palps started and when I took 1

grain after breakfast they stopped. I took my pulse while I was

eating breakfast and it was 108, by the time the armour had kicked in

it was 82

Lynda

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> I sometimes get this problem also and don't know why.

> I have found that it sometimes helps to wait until the very last

> minute

> before popping the Armour and then hopefully I am asleep before the

> Armour kicks

> in, just in case of palps.

> It is related to stress with me I am beginning to think.

>

> Mo

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Val, the way we make it it's just coffee, whisky and double cream.

No sugar in the coffee or the cream

Lynda

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> Irish coffee if I remember correctly is very sweet? Thius with

> alcohol

> could have cause hypoglycemic reaction later in the day.

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>>Why take it at bed time am I missing something.<<

I started taking a bedtime dose years ago when I read a study saying alot of T3

is neded at night for cell repair for damage done during the daytime. That wa

swhen I learned taking a dose at bedtime actually helps me sleep MUCH better!

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Phil

some of us add armour at bedtime once we are taking plenty during the

day.

For some of us it aids sleep.

Lynda

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>I was told to take Armour before eating and HC after eating so I take

>my Armour about 30 min.s before eating. I do one grain in the

>morning and at noon and .75 grains at dinner. Why take it at bed

>time am I missing something.

> Phil

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ha! we call it Irish coffee but actually J makes it with scotch -

Glenfiddich no less!

Now that IS sacrilege!

Lynda

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> Ah you have to watch out for that irish whiskey Lynda, it is an

> acquired

> skill, lol

> This is the first Crimbo for many years that I have not bought

> myself a

> bottle of good Irish malt. But you would not want to dilute that

> with anything at

> all, some would say even a drop of pure spring water would be

> nothing less

> than sacrelige (sp?)

>

> Mo

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