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> Ditto Sussie,

> I am on the ADA diet also and I do stick to it.

> I brought my HbA1c down from 11.5 to 5.1 and got

> off of all meds within 10 1/2 months of being

> diagnosed. I eat my higher carb meal prior to

> doing my daily exercise. Though my daily carb

> intake is what I would consider moderate (100-125).

> My morning bg's now stay mainly in the 70's with

> an occasional low 80. My after meal's I keep under

> 125 mainly with an occasional one (on a holiday or

> special occasion) in the 130-140 range. But those

> are rare so I don't feel guilty about them.

> I have also gotten some very helpful information

> out of their Diabetes Forecase magazine. They are an

> organization just like any other and as far as I am

> concerned, just like this list. I take and use from

> it some but not all of what it has to offer. I just

> sift out what I believe to be of value.

>

>

> Kim

>

My experience is very much like Kim's and I agree with her statements

above. I took their plan and modified it to fit me. I also get a

lot of good information from the ADA web site.

Christy

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My nutritionist put me on a typical ADA diet and if I stick to it I really

do well. But that is my body and I am what they used to be called

borderline. My first test was 6.7 and now im 6.2 or below. My average bs was

125 (bit high)...... I do have to watch the kind of carbs. Rice is a killer

for me. So I am very careful and so is sugar! They say a carb is a carb but

not for my body. What I do is eat six meals a day and never more then two

carbs at any meal. >>

That approach can work very well in the early stages of type 2 (which is

where my husband is at as well). Spreading your food intake into a

half-dozen snacks lessens the impact of each meal. In fact, if you are able

to achieve nearly normal weight and do regular exercise, the good news is

you might be able to go years or even a lifetime without becoming an

advanced diabetic.

Susie

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My nutritionist put me on a typical ADA diet and if I stick to it I really

do well. But that is my body and I am what they used to be called

borderline. My first test was 6.7 and now im 6.2 or below. My average bs was

125 (bit high)...... I do have to watch the kind of carbs. Rice is a killer

for me. So I am very careful and so is sugar! They say a carb is a carb but

not for my body. What I do is eat six meals a day and never more then two

carbs at any meal. >>

That approach can work very well in the early stages of type 2 (which is

where my husband is at as well). Spreading your food intake into a

half-dozen snacks lessens the impact of each meal. In fact, if you are able

to achieve nearly normal weight and do regular exercise, the good news is

you might be able to go years or even a lifetime without becoming an

advanced diabetic.

Susie

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Kim wrote:

<< I am on the ADA diet also and I do stick to it ... Though my daily carb

intake is what I would consider moderate (100-125) ... >>

I thought the ADA was recommending we make 55-70 percent of our diet

carbohydrates ... the Food Pyramid. If we take an 1800-calorie-a-day diet,

e.g., that would amount to 250-315 grams of carbohydrates each day (the U.S.

average is 300). Your diet actually sounds pretty low-carb to me. You are

eating somewhat lower-carb than the Zone Diet, which is considered high only

by Atkins or Bernstein standards.

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Kim wrote:

<< I am on the ADA diet also and I do stick to it ... Though my daily carb

intake is what I would consider moderate (100-125) ... >>

I thought the ADA was recommending we make 55-70 percent of our diet

carbohydrates ... the Food Pyramid. If we take an 1800-calorie-a-day diet,

e.g., that would amount to 250-315 grams of carbohydrates each day (the U.S.

average is 300). Your diet actually sounds pretty low-carb to me. You are

eating somewhat lower-carb than the Zone Diet, which is considered high only

by Atkins or Bernstein standards.

Susie

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In a message dated 5/13/02 10:20:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

macey110@... writes:

> The information I was given upon diagnosis regarding the food pyramid

> and diabetes, from the ADA, was 6-10 servings of carbohydrates per

> day. A serving is 15 grams, so unless my math is wrong, that's 90-

> 150 grams per day.

>

I was put on a 1500 cal ADA diet, and was told to eat 12- 15 servings of carb

a day...

that's 180 - 225 carbs.

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I wish I could tell you that, too, Jacky...alas, it probably will never

happen.

The good news is after four plus years of eating a moderately low carb diet

(about 100 per day) I hardly ever obsess about all the carbs I used to

blithely eat but no longer can, smile. Anyway, our reward for not eating 'em

is lovely A1Cs...and no complications. That's worth it to me.

Vicki

In a message dated 05/13/2002 8:09:19 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

willabee@... writes:

> I really wish that you can tell me

> that I can eat 6 servings of complex carbs and not spike higher then

> 130.

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> I thought the ADA was recommending we make 55-70 percent of our diet

> carbohydrates ... the Food Pyramid. If we take an 1800-calorie-a-

day diet,

> e.g., that would amount to 250-315 grams of carbohydrates each day

(the U.S.

> average is 300). Your diet actually sounds pretty low-carb to me.

You are

> eating somewhat lower-carb than the Zone Diet, which is considered

high only

> by Atkins or Bernstein standards.

>

> Susie

The information I was given upon diagnosis regarding the food pyramid

and diabetes, from the ADA, was 6-10 servings of carbohydrates per

day. A serving is 15 grams, so unless my math is wrong, that's 90-

150 grams per day.

Christy

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Kim Derry wrote:

<< The ADA diet is based on percentages of daily intake. I am still on a

weight loss program and my caloric intake per day is between 900 and 1200

calories. >>

I just read about a weight loss study involving two groups of boys, one fed

low-fat and the other low-carbohydrate. The low-fat group actually gained

2.9 pounds average. Do you go to bed hungry every night on your ADA-based

high-carb diet? Many diabetics placed on that regimen cannot tolerate the

constant hunger and must be placed on pills or insulin.

Susie

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Kim Derry wrote:

<< The ADA diet is based on percentages of daily intake. I am still on a

weight loss program and my caloric intake per day is between 900 and 1200

calories. >>

I just read about a weight loss study involving two groups of boys, one fed

low-fat and the other low-carbohydrate. The low-fat group actually gained

2.9 pounds average. Do you go to bed hungry every night on your ADA-based

high-carb diet? Many diabetics placed on that regimen cannot tolerate the

constant hunger and must be placed on pills or insulin.

Susie

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Susie,

Nope, I don't go to bed hungry at all. No reason

to. But I have lost now a total of 144 lbs since

January 1st, 2001. Exercise is a REALLY BIG part

of my regime.

Kim

>I just read about a weight loss study involving two groups of boys, one fed

>low-fat and the other low-carbohydrate. The low-fat group actually gained

>2.9 pounds average. Do you go to bed hungry every night on your ADA-based

>high-carb diet? Many diabetics placed on that regimen cannot tolerate the

>constant hunger and must be placed on pills or insulin.

>

>Susie

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Susie,

Nope, I don't go to bed hungry at all. No reason

to. But I have lost now a total of 144 lbs since

January 1st, 2001. Exercise is a REALLY BIG part

of my regime.

Kim

>I just read about a weight loss study involving two groups of boys, one fed

>low-fat and the other low-carbohydrate. The low-fat group actually gained

>2.9 pounds average. Do you go to bed hungry every night on your ADA-based

>high-carb diet? Many diabetics placed on that regimen cannot tolerate the

>constant hunger and must be placed on pills or insulin.

>

>Susie

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Susie,

Nope, I don't go to bed hungry at all. No reason

to. But I have lost now a total of 144 lbs since

January 1st, 2001. Exercise is a REALLY BIG part

of my regime.

Kim

>I just read about a weight loss study involving two groups of boys, one fed

>low-fat and the other low-carbohydrate. The low-fat group actually gained

>2.9 pounds average. Do you go to bed hungry every night on your ADA-based

>high-carb diet? Many diabetics placed on that regimen cannot tolerate the

>constant hunger and must be placed on pills or insulin.

>

>Susie

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Vicki,

Yup, I read it along with Berstein and other things

recommended here... along with some ADA publications.

I like to provide myself with a variety of information.

Kim

>And Kim...did you read the article about " the myth of lowfat eating " that

>Tom

>posted yesterday? It's definitely a worthwhile read, although it is long.

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In a message dated 5/13/02 7:37:36 PM !!!First Boot!!!,

ottercritter@... writes:

<< I thought the ADA was recommending we make 55-70 percent of our diet

carbohydrates ... the Food Pyramid. If we take an 1800-calorie-a-day diet,

e.g., that would amount to 250-315 grams of carbohydrates each day (the U.S.

average is 300). Your diet actually sounds pretty low-carb to me. >>

On my diet it was only 200 carbs and that was the ADA thingy. I am only

doing around 110 carbs. I still can't control my sugars. Although they are

still adjusting my insulin.

Kathy

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In a message dated 5/13/02 7:37:36 PM !!!First Boot!!!,

ottercritter@... writes:

<< I thought the ADA was recommending we make 55-70 percent of our diet

carbohydrates ... the Food Pyramid. If we take an 1800-calorie-a-day diet,

e.g., that would amount to 250-315 grams of carbohydrates each day (the U.S.

average is 300). Your diet actually sounds pretty low-carb to me. >>

On my diet it was only 200 carbs and that was the ADA thingy. I am only

doing around 110 carbs. I still can't control my sugars. Although they are

still adjusting my insulin.

Kathy

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In a message dated 5/13/02 7:37:36 PM !!!First Boot!!!,

ottercritter@... writes:

<< I thought the ADA was recommending we make 55-70 percent of our diet

carbohydrates ... the Food Pyramid. If we take an 1800-calorie-a-day diet,

e.g., that would amount to 250-315 grams of carbohydrates each day (the U.S.

average is 300). Your diet actually sounds pretty low-carb to me. >>

On my diet it was only 200 carbs and that was the ADA thingy. I am only

doing around 110 carbs. I still can't control my sugars. Although they are

still adjusting my insulin.

Kathy

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> Susie,

> Nope, I don't go to bed hungry at all. No reason

> to. But I have lost now a total of 144 lbs since

> January 1st, 2001. Exercise is a REALLY BIG part

> of my regime.

>

> Kim

Kim, it sounds like you and I are on the same plan. Way to go on the

additional weight loss. Your progress is really impressive! Are you

approaching your target weight at this point? I bet you look like a

new person.

I'm never really hungry on this way of eating, either, because I eat

small amounts 4 to 5 times a day, so there's never an opportunity to

get hungry. Before I started this, I would often skip meals, and

then be ravenous. Now I never skip, and I almost always have a small

snack before bedtime, and still have lost almost 50 pounds in less

than 6 months.

I hear you about the exercise. I've gotten to the point that I feel

awful if I don't get at least some during the day. It becomes almost

addictive, LOL!

Christy

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> Susie,

> Nope, I don't go to bed hungry at all. No reason

> to. But I have lost now a total of 144 lbs since

> January 1st, 2001. Exercise is a REALLY BIG part

> of my regime.

>

> Kim

Kim, it sounds like you and I are on the same plan. Way to go on the

additional weight loss. Your progress is really impressive! Are you

approaching your target weight at this point? I bet you look like a

new person.

I'm never really hungry on this way of eating, either, because I eat

small amounts 4 to 5 times a day, so there's never an opportunity to

get hungry. Before I started this, I would often skip meals, and

then be ravenous. Now I never skip, and I almost always have a small

snack before bedtime, and still have lost almost 50 pounds in less

than 6 months.

I hear you about the exercise. I've gotten to the point that I feel

awful if I don't get at least some during the day. It becomes almost

addictive, LOL!

Christy

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In a message dated 5/15/02 1:56:45 AM !!!First Boot!!!, macey110@...

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<< I hear you about the exercise. I've gotten to the point that I feel

awful if I don't get at least some during the day. It becomes almost

addictive, LOL!

Christy >>

I went to my regular GP today and he was so impressed that my blood pressure

was 115/58 he said that is excellent for a diabetic. I said it is the

exercise.

Kathy

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