Guest guest Report post Posted January 13, 2002 ---Orange juice will raise the blood sugar as will most juices. I was told by the dr. to stay away from it. I have a wee bit mixed with diet ginger ale or diet sprite from time to time. The only juice I now drink regularly is v8 or lite cranberry. Neither of those has raised my sugar. Of course the only way one really knows what will cause the bg's to rise is by testing and then we know for sure what we can't have or should cut back on. I stay away from pasta,rice and potatoes. These I have found are not good for me. Again by testing one will find out what they can and can't eat. I have found diabetic recipe groups which have really helped in planning meals. I eat a lot more fish than I used to and have found that I really like fish!! You are suffering all the normal emotions that one goes through after the inital diagnosis. But important thing is to realize it is reality and get to work on lowering the blood sugar. Testing really does help us in figuring out what is good and what is not. This disease can be controlled. Exercise really helps in keeping the numbers down. Even housework is exercise! Scrubbing the floor will burn calories and lower the sugar!!! Also I find that finding humor in everything really helps the morale and keeps me from being down! Stress ups the sugar and humor helps with that too! Laughter is good medicine!! Madge In diabetes_int@y..., " Jorjana O'Bannon " <jorjanao@a...> wrote: > Thank you everyone for the warm welcome. > > I am going through what are probably considered the normal emotions - shock, anger, sadness, depression. > Honestly, I feel very vulnerable on this list as the new person and not know practically ANYTHING about what's happening to me. > It's all very overwhelming right now. > > My blood sugar was 285. I had had a cup of orange juice 2 hours previous to that. > > Jorjana > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 13, 2002 ---Orange juice will raise the blood sugar as will most juices. I was told by the dr. to stay away from it. I have a wee bit mixed with diet ginger ale or diet sprite from time to time. The only juice I now drink regularly is v8 or lite cranberry. Neither of those has raised my sugar. Of course the only way one really knows what will cause the bg's to rise is by testing and then we know for sure what we can't have or should cut back on. I stay away from pasta,rice and potatoes. These I have found are not good for me. Again by testing one will find out what they can and can't eat. I have found diabetic recipe groups which have really helped in planning meals. I eat a lot more fish than I used to and have found that I really like fish!! You are suffering all the normal emotions that one goes through after the inital diagnosis. But important thing is to realize it is reality and get to work on lowering the blood sugar. Testing really does help us in figuring out what is good and what is not. This disease can be controlled. Exercise really helps in keeping the numbers down. Even housework is exercise! Scrubbing the floor will burn calories and lower the sugar!!! Also I find that finding humor in everything really helps the morale and keeps me from being down! Stress ups the sugar and humor helps with that too! Laughter is good medicine!! Madge In diabetes_int@y..., " Jorjana O'Bannon " <jorjanao@a...> wrote: > Thank you everyone for the warm welcome. > > I am going through what are probably considered the normal emotions - shock, anger, sadness, depression. > Honestly, I feel very vulnerable on this list as the new person and not know practically ANYTHING about what's happening to me. > It's all very overwhelming right now. > > My blood sugar was 285. I had had a cup of orange juice 2 hours previous to that. > > Jorjana > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 13, 2002 Hi, Jorjana...those feelings are very natural and we've all been there. We do understand. The high BG is doubtless because of the orange juice. It was one of the things I used to love that I had to give up. It'll really raise your BGs (as you found out). As a general rule, it's best to give up juices altogether and eat the Real Thing. However, most fruits will raise your BG. The few that don't - and must be eaten in moderation -- are strawberries, berries and certain melons. You can experiment ...eat some then check your BG one and two hours later. Pretty fast you'll learn what to avoid. Vicki << I am going through what are probably considered the normal emotions - shock, anger, sadness, depression. Honestly, I feel very vulnerable on this list as the new person and not know practically ANYTHING about what's happening to me. It's all very overwhelming right now. My blood sugar was 285. I had had a cup of orange juice 2 hours previous to that. >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 13, 2002 Hi, Jorjana...those feelings are very natural and we've all been there. We do understand. The high BG is doubtless because of the orange juice. It was one of the things I used to love that I had to give up. It'll really raise your BGs (as you found out). As a general rule, it's best to give up juices altogether and eat the Real Thing. However, most fruits will raise your BG. The few that don't - and must be eaten in moderation -- are strawberries, berries and certain melons. You can experiment ...eat some then check your BG one and two hours later. Pretty fast you'll learn what to avoid. Vicki << I am going through what are probably considered the normal emotions - shock, anger, sadness, depression. Honestly, I feel very vulnerable on this list as the new person and not know practically ANYTHING about what's happening to me. It's all very overwhelming right now. My blood sugar was 285. I had had a cup of orange juice 2 hours previous to that. >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 13, 2002 Jorjana O'Bannon wrote: > Thank you everyone for the warm welcome. > > I am going through what are probably considered the normal emotions - > shock, anger, sadness, depression. > Honestly, I feel very vulnerable on this list as the new person and > not know practically ANYTHING about what's happening to me. It's all > very overwhelming right now. We were all the " new " person at one time, not sure what to say, do, or ask. First thing is to relax and know that you are among " cyber-friends " here. We all try to watch out for one another as best we can, and that includes you! > > My blood sugar was 285. I had had a cup of orange juice 2 hours > previous to that. I had asked earlier if you knew what your blood sugar reading was at the Dr's office. If this is that reading, then the Dr would consider it a " random " reading rather than a fasting reading. To be 285 2 hours after having a meal (or orange juice) is a pretty clear indication that you are indeed diabetic. To make an " official " diagnosis, the Doc would normally do a follow-up fasting test or two. Since he gave you a prescription for Glucophage on the spot, he must have been convinced as well. I reread your original post and noticed that he has you scheduled for a follow-up appointment. You should expect to see him fairly frequently, at least until your BGs (blood glucose - same as saying blood sugar with a lot less tying) begin to move into a more normal range. One thing you should know - Carbohydrates cause your BGs to rise. The amount your blood sugar goes up depends upon a lot of things and varies from person to person. For most of us, a glass of orange juice, especially a " larger " one, would cause a significant rise in our BGs. How much Glucophage does the Dr have you taking and how often? Rick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 13, 2002 I'm forwarding this on to the group as it did not appear to go through before. Rick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 13, 2002 Maybe that's why, my mother-in-law's friend ever said that oranges are the worst fruits for diabetics. I never touch it since diagnosis. Judith > I am going through what are probably considered the normal emotions - shock, > anger, sadness, depression. > Honestly, I feel very vulnerable on this list as the new person and not know > practically ANYTHING about what's happening to me. > It's all very overwhelming right now. > > My blood sugar was 285. I had had a cup of orange juice 2 hours previous to > that. > >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 13, 2002 Maybe that's why, my mother-in-law's friend ever said that oranges are the worst fruits for diabetics. I never touch it since diagnosis. Judith > I am going through what are probably considered the normal emotions - shock, > anger, sadness, depression. > Honestly, I feel very vulnerable on this list as the new person and not know > practically ANYTHING about what's happening to me. > It's all very overwhelming right now. > > My blood sugar was 285. I had had a cup of orange juice 2 hours previous to > that. > >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 13, 2002 Maybe that's why, my mother-in-law's friend ever said that oranges are the worst fruits for diabetics. I never touch it since diagnosis. Judith > I am going through what are probably considered the normal emotions - shock, > anger, sadness, depression. > Honestly, I feel very vulnerable on this list as the new person and not know > practically ANYTHING about what's happening to me. > It's all very overwhelming right now. > > My blood sugar was 285. I had had a cup of orange juice 2 hours previous to > that. > >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 15, 2002 Welcome to the group. I am deleting your post it is so long. But the problem is not in the fats its in the carbs. If I can reverse high blood pressure with 99 percent meats, the fats can't be the problem. The problem is the carbs not allowing the body to process the fats correctly. Good luck getting off meds. I am. Best Regards, Ratliff icq 1495914 msn ROBERT RATLIFF aim mtncurr22 http://www.copernic.com search engine http://www.ghisler.com> windows commander http://www.paltalk.com> voice/text chat TennRascal http://www.grisoft.com> free antivirus with email checker http://www.sygate.com> free firewall <*> <*> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 15, 2002 Welcome to the group. I am deleting your post it is so long. But the problem is not in the fats its in the carbs. If I can reverse high blood pressure with 99 percent meats, the fats can't be the problem. The problem is the carbs not allowing the body to process the fats correctly. Good luck getting off meds. I am. Best Regards, Ratliff icq 1495914 msn ROBERT RATLIFF aim mtncurr22 http://www.copernic.com search engine http://www.ghisler.com> windows commander http://www.paltalk.com> voice/text chat TennRascal http://www.grisoft.com> free antivirus with email checker http://www.sygate.com> free firewall <*> <*> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 15, 2002 Welcome to the group. I am deleting your post it is so long. But the problem is not in the fats its in the carbs. If I can reverse high blood pressure with 99 percent meats, the fats can't be the problem. The problem is the carbs not allowing the body to process the fats correctly. Good luck getting off meds. I am. Best Regards, Ratliff icq 1495914 msn ROBERT RATLIFF aim mtncurr22 http://www.copernic.com search engine http://www.ghisler.com> windows commander http://www.paltalk.com> voice/text chat TennRascal http://www.grisoft.com> free antivirus with email checker http://www.sygate.com> free firewall <*> <*> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 11, 2005 Welcome, Jen Just ask away! We are all willing to help if we can. intro Hi folks, I just got approved for this list... I have been trying to find a list to learn more about diabetes, since I have quite a number of friends who are diabetic along with vision impairment/blindness... I may not post much, but I will be around learning/lurking, and occassionaly I may ask questions if something comes up... I look forward to being a part of this group! Jen and Nixon guidedogs4ever2002@... If you are interested in a guide dog related or christian related email list, contact me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 11, 2005 Welcome, Jen Just ask away! We are all willing to help if we can. intro Hi folks, I just got approved for this list... I have been trying to find a list to learn more about diabetes, since I have quite a number of friends who are diabetic along with vision impairment/blindness... I may not post much, but I will be around learning/lurking, and occassionaly I may ask questions if something comes up... I look forward to being a part of this group! Jen and Nixon guidedogs4ever2002@... If you are interested in a guide dog related or christian related email list, contact me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 11, 2005 Welcome, Jen Just ask away! We are all willing to help if we can. intro Hi folks, I just got approved for this list... I have been trying to find a list to learn more about diabetes, since I have quite a number of friends who are diabetic along with vision impairment/blindness... I may not post much, but I will be around learning/lurking, and occassionaly I may ask questions if something comes up... I look forward to being a part of this group! Jen and Nixon guidedogs4ever2002@... If you are interested in a guide dog related or christian related email list, contact me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 24, 2007 Welcome Ann Glad to have you with us. EvaGet a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 24, 2007 Welcome Ann. Glad to see you made a nice start (eating 'forbidden food' without guilt . Just follow your body senses, as you get re-familiar with them and your eating will get more pleasing. And if you let your heart guide you to what makes the best sense to YOU, then will be be in even better 'shape' before you know it > > Hi, > > I'm new to the list. I'm only about a third of the way through the > book. I find myself reading portions then needing time for it all to > sink in before I can read more. I'm recovering from a lot. I'm > about 80 pounds overweight (according to the charts at the drs > office). I think when I first tried to loose weight by dieting I was > only about 20 pounds overweight. I have been in a program that > taught that if I overate or ate something when I wasn't fully > bilologically hungry that it was a sin. So then I felt guilty, and > then I would overeat, and that meant I failed again....what a cycle. > I tried to break that cycle by finding a new diet, with every new > diet, hoping I had found the answer for me. I also come from a > culture where wasting food is wasting money and that is bad. > I don't run my household by those sorts of rules, but many of them > are alive and well inside my head. > I am fairly concientious about nutrition but not in the sense that I > worry about carb or calories so much. I am concerned about things > like pesticides and chemical additives. I don't trust the food > industry to care about my health. > So as you all can see, I have a journey ahead of me. > Yesterday I ate a forbidden food for the first time in ages without > feeling guilty about it, so I guess I'm not a hopelss case. > I'm already enjoying the list and look forward to getting to know you > all. > > Ann > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 25, 2007 Ann I don't think anyone should ever skip meals I think it is unhealthy but as I am not much of a breakfast eater I wait until I am hungry which is usaully about 8:30 or 9:00 a.m. sometimes it is earlier I have not been doing IE for very long maybe the more experienced people on the group can gve you more advice but I find in the 2 or 3 monts that I have been doing IE my body has slowly adjusted itself to the times it likes to eat breakfast lunch and dinner so the short answer is just eat when you get hungry. The funny thing I have noticed is that I was a big snacker before I started IE and now there are days when I need a snack and days I don't that took me by surprise because I love to snack more then to eat regular meals. I hope this has helped a little bit. EvaGet a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 25, 2007 Thanks for the welcome from all who responded.:0) I hope nobody minds my 'newbe' questions. I'm sure I'm going to bring up stuff you all have discussed many times before. I'll try to get up to speed though. My first question is about breakfast. I'm often not feeling all that hungry until later in the morning. In honoring my hunger, do I wait until I am hungry to eat in the morning, or do I eat something anyway because of all the stuff they say about the importance of breakfast? Sometimes when I wake up, I am hungry, but sometimes I get up about 6:45 AM, and find I'm not hungry until 9-10 o'clock. I was reading about turning off the food police last night, so I'm just feeling unsure about this one. Is eating breakfast a diet rule? Or is it part of honoring good health? AnnKatcha wrote: Welcome Ann. Glad to see you made a nice start (eating 'forbiddenfood' without guilt . Just follow your body senses, as you getre-familiar with them and your eating will get more pleasing. And ifyou let your heart guide you to what makes the best sense to YOU, thenwill be be in even better 'shape' before you know it >> Hi,> > I'm new to the list. I'm only about a third of the way through the > book. I find myself reading portions then needing time for it all to > sink in before I can read more. I'm recovering from a lot. I'm > about 80 pounds overweight (according to the charts at the drs > office). I think when I first tried to loose weight by dieting I was > only about 20 pounds overweight. I have been in a program that > taught that if I overate or ate something when I wasn't fully > bilologically hungry that it was a sin. So then I felt guilty, and > then I would overeat, and that meant I failed again....what a cycle. > I tried to break that cycle by finding a new diet, with every new > diet, hoping I had found the answer for me. I also come from a > culture where wasting food is wasting money and that is bad.> I don't run my household by those sorts of rules, but many of them > are alive and well inside my head.> I am fairly concientious about nutrition but not in the sense that I > worry about carb or calories so much. I am concerned about things > like pesticides and chemical additives. I don't trust the food > industry to care about my health.> So as you all can see, I have a journey ahead of me.> Yesterday I ate a forbidden food for the first time in ages without > feeling guilty about it, so I guess I'm not a hopelss case.> I'm already enjoying the list and look forward to getting to know you > all.> > Ann> Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 25, 2007 I am usually not hungry when I wake up. I've decided that if I'm really going to follow the IE path, then I don't eat until I'm hungry (and I know what I want). Today, it was 11 a.m. before I figured out what really would satisfy me and was hungry enough to eat it. Two days ago, I did wake up hungry and had cereal with the kids. I think you should listen to your body rather than rules. And, I don't think 9-10 a.m. is too late for breakfast Kim Re: Re: intro Thanks for the welcome from all who responded.:0) I hope nobody minds my 'newbe' questions. I'm sure I'm going to bring up stuff you all have discussed many times before. I'll try to get up to speed though. My first question is about breakfast. I'm often not feeling all that hungry until later in the morning. In honoring my hunger, do I wait until I am hungry to eat in the morning, or do I eat something anyway because of all the stuff they say about the importance of breakfast? Sometimes when I wake up, I am hungry, but sometimes I get up about 6:45 AM, and find I'm not hungry until 9-10 o'clock. I was reading about turning off the food police last night, so I'm just feeling unsure about this one. Is eating breakfast a diet rule? Or is it part of honoring good health? AnnKatcha <jain_daughhughes (DOT) net> wrote: Welcome Ann. Glad to see you made a nice start (eating 'forbiddenfood' without guilt . Just follow your body senses, as you getre-familiar with them and your eating will get more pleasing. And ifyou let your heart guide you to what makes the best sense to YOU, thenwill be be in even better 'shape' before you know it >> Hi,> > I'm new to the list. I'm only about a third of the way through the > book. I find myself reading portions then needing time for it all to > sink in before I can read more. I'm recovering from a lot. I'm > about 80 pounds overweight (according to the charts at the drs > office). I think when I first tried to loose weight by dieting I was > only about 20 pounds overweight. I have been in a program that > taught that if I overate or ate something when I wasn't fully > bilologically hungry that it was a sin. So then I felt guilty, and > then I would overeat, and that meant I failed again....what a cycle. > I tried to break that cycle by finding a new diet, with every new > diet, hoping I had found the answer for me. I also come from a > culture where wasting food is wasting money and that is bad.> I don't run my household by those sorts of rules, but many of them > are alive and well inside my head.> I am fairly concientious about nutrition but not in the sense that I > worry about carb or calories so much. I am concerned about things > like pesticides and chemical additives. I don't trust the food > industry to care about my health.> So as you all can see, I have a journey ahead of me.> Yesterday I ate a forbidden food for the first time in ages without > feeling guilty about it, so I guess I'm not a hopelss case.> I'm already enjoying the list and look forward to getting to know you > all.> > Ann> Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story.Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.16/914 - Release Date: 7/23/2007 7:45 PM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 25, 2007 > > Thanks for the welcome from all who responded.:0) I hope nobody minds my 'newbe' questions. I'm sure I'm going to bring up stuff you all have discussed many times before. I'll try to get up to speed though. No problem re questions - review is good for me too > My first question is about breakfast. I'm often not feeling all that hungry until later in the morning. In honoring my hunger, do I wait until I am hungry to eat in the morning, or do I eat something anyway because of all the stuff they say about the importance of breakfast? Sometimes when I wake up, I am hungry, but sometimes I get up about 6:45 AM, and find I'm not hungry until 9-10 o'clock. I was reading about turning off the food police last night, so I'm just feeling unsure about this one. > Is eating breakfast a diet rule? Far as I understand IE - yep most 'rules' are 'diet mentality' 'cuz we tend to end up rebeling more than following them ;-) And who says you can't enjoy your breakfast at 9-10 AM?!? Its not like its 3PM or anything. Just make sure you are 'hungry' and not HUNGRY!!! when you eat as that can push you into overeating Or is it part of honoring good health? Good health comes from a happy, satisfied body (which is the best director of health for you). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 25, 2007 Hi Ann, You've gotten quickly to the heart of the difficulty of normal eating: competing desires. We want to eat normally, we want to eat " healthily " we want to listen to our bodies, we want to lose weight, we want to not think about food, etc. etc. The reality is, these desires sometimes conflict. This conflict can lead to binging unless we choose a path that satisfies us as individuals. I personally look at the balance between emotional, rational and physical desires, and try to balance them. My balance leans a little to the choice of eating for emotional reasons. Other people prefer to balance eating for stomach hunger, or to follow a vegan diet, or or or... My suggestion to you is experiment. Tomorrow try waiting for stomach hunger before you eat breakfast. The next day, choose a balanced breakfast at a scheduled time. Experiment as often as you need until you get an idea of what is right for you. Then come back and tell us what works for you. What works for me is to skip breakfast sometimes, maybe once a week, based on how full I felt from the night before. Sometimes that means I need a snack mid-morning, mostly not. Sometimes I also eat a two-bite breakfast, just enough to get a bite of something in my stomach, but not a full " meal. " What I don't skip is water first thing. Even when I'm not hungry, I start my morning with a water ritual. Mostly I drink a tall glass of hot water, which helps keep me regular. Then I sip on a glass of not- heated water while I decide how hungry I am. Then I eat or not, as I choose. Right now it's 6.30 and I skipped the hot water, am sipping the cold, and think I will eat a little yogurt rather than my normal toast, because I ate rather a lot when I went out to dinner last night. Have fun finding your way! lrc >> My first question is about breakfast. I'm often not feeling all that hungry until later in the morning. In honoring my hunger, do I wait until I am hungry to eat in the morning, or do I eat something anyway because of all the stuff they say about the importance of breakfast?> Is eating breakfast a diet rule? Or is it part of honoring good health? > Ann Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 25, 2007 Sorry to be so uncouth as to follow up my own post, but I do a lot of experimenting with IE and record it on my blog, in case you want to see more. http://livingrainbowcolor.wordpress.com/ lrc(oh great. now I've not only responded to my own post, but I also advertised my own blog. Sheesh. Honest, I'm not a spammer. Slinking off in shame now. ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 26, 2007 Hi, Ann, I'm never hungry when I first get up either, my first hunger indication (about 4 on the hunger scale) usually kicks in about 10 AM and I wait until I'm a little hungrier (about a 3) to eat. I think honoring your hunger is more important than nutrition " rules " - and that's why " Honor your hunger " is principle #2 but " Nutrition " is principle #10 in the IE book. So, IMHO, eat breakfast if you're hungry and if you're not hungry, wait until you are, then eat what you are hungry for. Barnee > > > ... My first question is about breakfast. I'm often not feeling all that hungry until later in the morning. In honoring my hunger, do I wait until I am hungry to eat in the morning, or do I eat something anyway because of all the stuff they say about the importance of breakfast? Sometimes when I wake up, I am hungry, but sometimes I get up about 6:45 AM, and find I'm not hungry until 9-10 o'clock. I was reading about turning off the food police last night, so I'm just feeling unsure about this one. > Is eating breakfast a diet rule? Or is it part of honoring good health? > > Ann > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 8, 2007 Hi , Welcome! Wow, you have really had a lot of big changes in your life. But it sounds like you have a wonderful, supportive boyfriend, and that is fabulous! I know IE is scary at first. I promise you will stop eating brownies, but you really do have to give yourself permission to eat them first. Jane. Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
