Introduction

[Guest guest]

Get Dr. Atkins' book Diet Revolution. I think you would enjoy the diet.

You mostly eat meat, eggs, cheese, salads, and low-carb vegetables.

Also, you will enjoy reading how this diet for over 30 years has reduce

the complications of heart disease and reduced or eliminated meds for

diabetics.

Let me know if you get the book and want to do it. I can offer alot of

help. I lost 40 pounds earlier this year, my son lost 50. I am starting

on it again as of yesterday!

Phyllis

[Guest guest]

Get Dr. Atkins' book Diet Revolution. I think you would enjoy the diet.

You mostly eat meat, eggs, cheese, salads, and low-carb vegetables.

Also, you will enjoy reading how this diet for over 30 years has reduce

the complications of heart disease and reduced or eliminated meds for

diabetics.

Let me know if you get the book and want to do it. I can offer alot of

help. I lost 40 pounds earlier this year, my son lost 50. I am starting

on it again as of yesterday!

Phyllis

[Guest guest]

Hi, Glen. Welcome. Exercise can be eased into, just a teeny bit at a time

more than once a day if possible, say 5 minutes. Do that for a week, then

increase by one minute, or more if you're comfortable. Every little bit

helps, and just a little more frequently helps too. If you can work your

way up gradually, that's great. If you can sit in a chair and wave your

arms around, that's great too. Anything that gets you moving. How about a

stationery bike? weights with upper body?

Get Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution - it's chock full of great information

about diabetes, how it works in your body, how to control it, etc. If you

cut your carbohydrate intake, get your blood sugar numbers in control by

testing frequently and keeping notes, so you know which foods raise your

blood sugar, you will start losing weight and feeling much better. There

are many great success stories in the shared files for this group. The url

is at the bottom of each message.

Read and learn, test, test, test and keep good notes. Control can be

achieved and you can do it.

Barb

> Now, I need to loose the 100 lbs and my body is not

> physically able to do the walking. I need some motivation and suggestions.

[Guest guest]

Hi, Glen. Welcome. Exercise can be eased into, just a teeny bit at a time

more than once a day if possible, say 5 minutes. Do that for a week, then

increase by one minute, or more if you're comfortable. Every little bit

helps, and just a little more frequently helps too. If you can work your

way up gradually, that's great. If you can sit in a chair and wave your

arms around, that's great too. Anything that gets you moving. How about a

stationery bike? weights with upper body?

Get Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution - it's chock full of great information

about diabetes, how it works in your body, how to control it, etc. If you

cut your carbohydrate intake, get your blood sugar numbers in control by

testing frequently and keeping notes, so you know which foods raise your

blood sugar, you will start losing weight and feeling much better. There

are many great success stories in the shared files for this group. The url

is at the bottom of each message.

Read and learn, test, test, test and keep good notes. Control can be

achieved and you can do it.

Barb

> Now, I need to loose the 100 lbs and my body is not

> physically able to do the walking. I need some motivation and suggestions.

[Guest guest]

Hi, Glen. Welcome. Exercise can be eased into, just a teeny bit at a time

more than once a day if possible, say 5 minutes. Do that for a week, then

increase by one minute, or more if you're comfortable. Every little bit

helps, and just a little more frequently helps too. If you can work your

way up gradually, that's great. If you can sit in a chair and wave your

arms around, that's great too. Anything that gets you moving. How about a

stationery bike? weights with upper body?

Get Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution - it's chock full of great information

about diabetes, how it works in your body, how to control it, etc. If you

cut your carbohydrate intake, get your blood sugar numbers in control by

testing frequently and keeping notes, so you know which foods raise your

blood sugar, you will start losing weight and feeling much better. There

are many great success stories in the shared files for this group. The url

is at the bottom of each message.

Read and learn, test, test, test and keep good notes. Control can be

achieved and you can do it.

Barb

> Now, I need to loose the 100 lbs and my body is not

> physically able to do the walking. I need some motivation and suggestions.

[Guest guest]

> Now, I need to loose the 100 lbs and my

> body is not physically able to do the walking.

> I need some motivation and suggestions.

Hi, Glen! To call it by its right name, obesity is a chronic disease

just like diabetes but many times more difficult to manage. Not all

diabetics are obese and not all obese people are diabetic but the two

conditions are co-morbidities and risk factors of each other.

I am a moderator of a yahoo German group for overweight people, have

spent some time on the subject and have heard from hundreds of fellow

sufferers and if you had shown up there I would have answered you as

follows:

Target:

---------

You do not need to lose 100 lbs to improve your health. If you are

overweight, ANY reduction in body weight will improve you health and

reduce your risk of co-morbidities to some degree. The secret is to

set yourself a realistic, achievable, target and 100 lbs is neither

realistic nor achievable in my opinion; not in the foreseeable

future, at any rate.

The reported average healthy, achievable and sustainable long-term

weight loss is about half a pound a week so you are talking about a 4-

year program if your target is 100 lbs - and four years is a long

time in weight loss terms. Naturally you can lose weight faster than

that for short periods but in the long term it will be a zigzag

process, zig you lose some, zag you gain some back.

I would recommend that you set yourself an initial target of 10 - 20

lbs. Achieving that will give you some encouragement, improve your

health noticeably, reduce the load on your back a little and satisfy

your doctors that you are on the right road.

Motivation:

--------------

To lose weight, your body will need to start burning off excess fat.

But the process by which your body burns fat from its fat reserves is

not under the control of your will. In fact, your complete metabolism

is regulated by control loops, mostly hormones and enzymes, which you

cannot directly influence. Some of those control loops extend outside

your body and include your food intake. Some of them include your

brain.

I have seen it explained in this way: Losing weight is like playing

chess against a world champion, a champion who cheats by changing

several pieces in one move, who not only can read your thoughts but

who can also inject hormones directly into your brain.

There seem to be only two forms of motivation for losing weight:

vanity and concern about health. Vanity is a very weak, fickle

motivation but you could exploit concern for your health by exposing

yourself to as much information as possible about the end stages of

obesity: medical texts with pictures of hip joint replacement

operations, pictures of diseased hearts taken during post-mortem

examinations, etc. I know that those examples are extreme but you can

start with simple texts and work up to the others gradually!

I first became motivated by sharing a hospital room with a guy who

had just had a hip joint replacement operation. He groaned and swore

all day and all night and never tired of showing me his scars and

bruises. He had more overweight than I had but he not only ate a full

menu of meals but he was also kept well provided for by his family

bringing him biscuits and cakes from home.

In the end nobody can motivate you, you have to do it yourself. You

have to want to lose weight or stay as you are and accept the

consequences. To be able to accept the consequences, you have to know

what they are. That is why I recommend that you collect as much

information on obesity as you can. There is more than enough of it on

the Internet.

At best you will lose weight when your body lets you - you can help

out by giving it the right conditions.

Suggestions:

-----------

You can burn up fat in your sleep. Or rather your muscles will do it

for you - if you have enough of them. You don't have to go jogging to

make muscles, you can do it by weight lifting, starting with small

hand weights and working up gradually in weight and gradually

increasing the number of repetitions. The weights cost only a few

dollars.

You can exercise at home by using a " step " , starting with a small

step and a few exercises and gradually increasing the number of

repetitions and the height of the step. You can eventually increase

the benefit by carrying your weights in your hands as you step. You

should be able to find a robust " step " for US$45 - US$99, depending

upon whether you want " Reebock " on it or not. Don't confuse that with

a mini-stepper - unless you plan to give up after a few months

because that is as long as they hold out.

You can develop abdominal muscles lying on the floor by using

a " roller " , a frame that supports your head and neck as you lift the

upper part of your body off the floor.

These three procedures have the advantage that you can do them at

home in private any time of the day at no expense whereas starting

off as a beginner in a fitness studio might turn you off and can cost

big bucks.

The most important thing to remember is: safety first. Always do

light exercises to warm up before you start and to cool down once you

are through and don't do anything risky. Always exercise with

sufficient space all around so that if you fall, you don't hit

anything with sharp edges. And stop when you begin to feel bad.

The principle is that you keep on the move as much as possible, and

work against a resistance as much and as often as you can take it

without overdoing it. Make sitting down the exception. Never watch TV

sitting down. If you must watch TV, do your exercises in front of the

TV set. But start small and work up gradually.

Oh yes, Glen, many people will recommend you follow a diet but I

would advise against it - they simply do not work long-term. What you

can do is to eat healthy food in accordance with a balanced meal plan

but you should be doing that already for your diabetes anyway. By

healthy food I mean natural food and as little as possible out of a

packet - nothing at all out of a packet is even better. Hardly

anybody ever got fat eating natural food but a lot have got rich

selling processed food, and many others have made themselves ill by

eating it.

Many people have done quite well selling books about diets, too. It

won't do you any harm to read them if you have the time but I

guarantee you that for every diet book that recommends you do a

certain thing there is another out there that recommends you don't!

That is my opinion based on my own experiences and some of the

medical literature and textbooks I have accumulated.

I wish you success which ever way you decide to tackle the job!

Thornton

Pforzheim, Germany

[Guest guest]

> Now, I need to loose the 100 lbs and my

> body is not physically able to do the walking.

> I need some motivation and suggestions.

Hi, Glen! To call it by its right name, obesity is a chronic disease

just like diabetes but many times more difficult to manage. Not all

diabetics are obese and not all obese people are diabetic but the two

conditions are co-morbidities and risk factors of each other.

I am a moderator of a yahoo German group for overweight people, have

spent some time on the subject and have heard from hundreds of fellow

sufferers and if you had shown up there I would have answered you as

follows:

Target:

---------

You do not need to lose 100 lbs to improve your health. If you are

overweight, ANY reduction in body weight will improve you health and

reduce your risk of co-morbidities to some degree. The secret is to

set yourself a realistic, achievable, target and 100 lbs is neither

realistic nor achievable in my opinion; not in the foreseeable

future, at any rate.

The reported average healthy, achievable and sustainable long-term

weight loss is about half a pound a week so you are talking about a 4-

year program if your target is 100 lbs - and four years is a long

time in weight loss terms. Naturally you can lose weight faster than

that for short periods but in the long term it will be a zigzag

process, zig you lose some, zag you gain some back.

I would recommend that you set yourself an initial target of 10 - 20

lbs. Achieving that will give you some encouragement, improve your

health noticeably, reduce the load on your back a little and satisfy

your doctors that you are on the right road.

Motivation:

--------------

To lose weight, your body will need to start burning off excess fat.

But the process by which your body burns fat from its fat reserves is

not under the control of your will. In fact, your complete metabolism

is regulated by control loops, mostly hormones and enzymes, which you

cannot directly influence. Some of those control loops extend outside

your body and include your food intake. Some of them include your

brain.

I have seen it explained in this way: Losing weight is like playing

chess against a world champion, a champion who cheats by changing

several pieces in one move, who not only can read your thoughts but

who can also inject hormones directly into your brain.

There seem to be only two forms of motivation for losing weight:

vanity and concern about health. Vanity is a very weak, fickle

motivation but you could exploit concern for your health by exposing

yourself to as much information as possible about the end stages of

obesity: medical texts with pictures of hip joint replacement

operations, pictures of diseased hearts taken during post-mortem

examinations, etc. I know that those examples are extreme but you can

start with simple texts and work up to the others gradually!

I first became motivated by sharing a hospital room with a guy who

had just had a hip joint replacement operation. He groaned and swore

all day and all night and never tired of showing me his scars and

bruises. He had more overweight than I had but he not only ate a full

menu of meals but he was also kept well provided for by his family

bringing him biscuits and cakes from home.

In the end nobody can motivate you, you have to do it yourself. You

have to want to lose weight or stay as you are and accept the

consequences. To be able to accept the consequences, you have to know

what they are. That is why I recommend that you collect as much

information on obesity as you can. There is more than enough of it on

the Internet.

At best you will lose weight when your body lets you - you can help

out by giving it the right conditions.

Suggestions:

-----------

You can burn up fat in your sleep. Or rather your muscles will do it

for you - if you have enough of them. You don't have to go jogging to

make muscles, you can do it by weight lifting, starting with small

hand weights and working up gradually in weight and gradually

increasing the number of repetitions. The weights cost only a few

dollars.

You can exercise at home by using a " step " , starting with a small

step and a few exercises and gradually increasing the number of

repetitions and the height of the step. You can eventually increase

the benefit by carrying your weights in your hands as you step. You

should be able to find a robust " step " for US$45 - US$99, depending

upon whether you want " Reebock " on it or not. Don't confuse that with

a mini-stepper - unless you plan to give up after a few months

because that is as long as they hold out.

You can develop abdominal muscles lying on the floor by using

a " roller " , a frame that supports your head and neck as you lift the

upper part of your body off the floor.

These three procedures have the advantage that you can do them at

home in private any time of the day at no expense whereas starting

off as a beginner in a fitness studio might turn you off and can cost

big bucks.

The most important thing to remember is: safety first. Always do

light exercises to warm up before you start and to cool down once you

are through and don't do anything risky. Always exercise with

sufficient space all around so that if you fall, you don't hit

anything with sharp edges. And stop when you begin to feel bad.

The principle is that you keep on the move as much as possible, and

work against a resistance as much and as often as you can take it

without overdoing it. Make sitting down the exception. Never watch TV

sitting down. If you must watch TV, do your exercises in front of the

TV set. But start small and work up gradually.

Oh yes, Glen, many people will recommend you follow a diet but I

would advise against it - they simply do not work long-term. What you

can do is to eat healthy food in accordance with a balanced meal plan

but you should be doing that already for your diabetes anyway. By

healthy food I mean natural food and as little as possible out of a

packet - nothing at all out of a packet is even better. Hardly

anybody ever got fat eating natural food but a lot have got rich

selling processed food, and many others have made themselves ill by

eating it.

Many people have done quite well selling books about diets, too. It

won't do you any harm to read them if you have the time but I

guarantee you that for every diet book that recommends you do a

certain thing there is another out there that recommends you don't!

That is my opinion based on my own experiences and some of the

medical literature and textbooks I have accumulated.

I wish you success which ever way you decide to tackle the job!

Thornton

Pforzheim, Germany

[Guest guest]

> Now, I need to loose the 100 lbs and my

> body is not physically able to do the walking.

> I need some motivation and suggestions.

Hi, Glen! To call it by its right name, obesity is a chronic disease

just like diabetes but many times more difficult to manage. Not all

diabetics are obese and not all obese people are diabetic but the two

conditions are co-morbidities and risk factors of each other.

I am a moderator of a yahoo German group for overweight people, have

spent some time on the subject and have heard from hundreds of fellow

sufferers and if you had shown up there I would have answered you as

follows:

Target:

---------

You do not need to lose 100 lbs to improve your health. If you are

overweight, ANY reduction in body weight will improve you health and

reduce your risk of co-morbidities to some degree. The secret is to

set yourself a realistic, achievable, target and 100 lbs is neither

realistic nor achievable in my opinion; not in the foreseeable

future, at any rate.

The reported average healthy, achievable and sustainable long-term

weight loss is about half a pound a week so you are talking about a 4-

year program if your target is 100 lbs - and four years is a long

time in weight loss terms. Naturally you can lose weight faster than

that for short periods but in the long term it will be a zigzag

process, zig you lose some, zag you gain some back.

I would recommend that you set yourself an initial target of 10 - 20

lbs. Achieving that will give you some encouragement, improve your

health noticeably, reduce the load on your back a little and satisfy

your doctors that you are on the right road.

Motivation:

--------------

To lose weight, your body will need to start burning off excess fat.

But the process by which your body burns fat from its fat reserves is

not under the control of your will. In fact, your complete metabolism

is regulated by control loops, mostly hormones and enzymes, which you

cannot directly influence. Some of those control loops extend outside

your body and include your food intake. Some of them include your

brain.

I have seen it explained in this way: Losing weight is like playing

chess against a world champion, a champion who cheats by changing

several pieces in one move, who not only can read your thoughts but

who can also inject hormones directly into your brain.

There seem to be only two forms of motivation for losing weight:

vanity and concern about health. Vanity is a very weak, fickle

motivation but you could exploit concern for your health by exposing

yourself to as much information as possible about the end stages of

obesity: medical texts with pictures of hip joint replacement

operations, pictures of diseased hearts taken during post-mortem

examinations, etc. I know that those examples are extreme but you can

start with simple texts and work up to the others gradually!

I first became motivated by sharing a hospital room with a guy who

had just had a hip joint replacement operation. He groaned and swore

all day and all night and never tired of showing me his scars and

bruises. He had more overweight than I had but he not only ate a full

menu of meals but he was also kept well provided for by his family

bringing him biscuits and cakes from home.

In the end nobody can motivate you, you have to do it yourself. You

have to want to lose weight or stay as you are and accept the

consequences. To be able to accept the consequences, you have to know

what they are. That is why I recommend that you collect as much

information on obesity as you can. There is more than enough of it on

the Internet.

At best you will lose weight when your body lets you - you can help

out by giving it the right conditions.

Suggestions:

-----------

You can burn up fat in your sleep. Or rather your muscles will do it

for you - if you have enough of them. You don't have to go jogging to

make muscles, you can do it by weight lifting, starting with small

hand weights and working up gradually in weight and gradually

increasing the number of repetitions. The weights cost only a few

dollars.

You can exercise at home by using a " step " , starting with a small

step and a few exercises and gradually increasing the number of

repetitions and the height of the step. You can eventually increase

the benefit by carrying your weights in your hands as you step. You

should be able to find a robust " step " for US$45 - US$99, depending

upon whether you want " Reebock " on it or not. Don't confuse that with

a mini-stepper - unless you plan to give up after a few months

because that is as long as they hold out.

You can develop abdominal muscles lying on the floor by using

a " roller " , a frame that supports your head and neck as you lift the

upper part of your body off the floor.

These three procedures have the advantage that you can do them at

home in private any time of the day at no expense whereas starting

off as a beginner in a fitness studio might turn you off and can cost

big bucks.

The most important thing to remember is: safety first. Always do

light exercises to warm up before you start and to cool down once you

are through and don't do anything risky. Always exercise with

sufficient space all around so that if you fall, you don't hit

anything with sharp edges. And stop when you begin to feel bad.

The principle is that you keep on the move as much as possible, and

work against a resistance as much and as often as you can take it

without overdoing it. Make sitting down the exception. Never watch TV

sitting down. If you must watch TV, do your exercises in front of the

TV set. But start small and work up gradually.

Oh yes, Glen, many people will recommend you follow a diet but I

would advise against it - they simply do not work long-term. What you

can do is to eat healthy food in accordance with a balanced meal plan

but you should be doing that already for your diabetes anyway. By

healthy food I mean natural food and as little as possible out of a

packet - nothing at all out of a packet is even better. Hardly

anybody ever got fat eating natural food but a lot have got rich

selling processed food, and many others have made themselves ill by

eating it.

Many people have done quite well selling books about diets, too. It

won't do you any harm to read them if you have the time but I

guarantee you that for every diet book that recommends you do a

certain thing there is another out there that recommends you don't!

That is my opinion based on my own experiences and some of the

medical literature and textbooks I have accumulated.

I wish you success which ever way you decide to tackle the job!

Thornton

Pforzheim, Germany

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/30/01 3:03:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, j459g@...

writes:

>

>

> > Now, I need to loose the 100 lbs and my

> > body is not physically able to do the walking.

> > I need some motivation and suggestions.

>

Thank you for you input. Point well taken.

> Hi, Glen! To call it by its right name, obesity is a chronic disease

> just like diabetes but many times more difficult to manage. Not all

> diabetics are obese and not all obese people are diabetic but the two

> conditions are co-morbidities and risk factors of each other.

>

> I am a moderator of a yahoo German group for overweight people, have

> spent some time on the subject and have heard from hundreds of fellow

> sufferers and if you had shown up there I would have answered you as

> follows:

>

> Target:

> ---------

> You do not need to lose 100 lbs to improve your health. If you are

> overweight, ANY reduction in body weight will improve you health and

> reduce your risk of co-morbidities to some degree. The secret is to

> set yourself a realistic, achievable, target and 100 lbs is neither

> realistic nor achievable in my opinion; not in the foreseeable

> future, at any rate.

>

> The reported average healthy, achievable and sustainable long-term

> weight loss is about half a pound a week so you are talking about a 4-

> year program if your target is 100 lbs - and four years is a long

> time in weight loss terms. Naturally you can lose weight faster than

> that for short periods but in the long term it will be a zigzag

> process, zig you lose some, zag you gain some back.

>

> I would recommend that you set yourself an initial target of 10 - 20

> lbs. Achieving that will give you some encouragement, improve your

> health noticeably, reduce the load on your back a little and satisfy

> your doctors that you are on the right road.

>

> Motivation:

> --------------

> To lose weight, your body will need to start burning off excess fat.

> But the process by which your body burns fat from its fat reserves is

> not under the control of your will. In fact, your complete metabolism

> is regulated by control loops, mostly hormones and enzymes, which you

> cannot directly influence. Some of those control loops extend outside

> your body and include your food intake. Some of them include your

> brain.

>

> I have seen it explained in this way: Losing weight is like playing

> chess against a world champion, a champion who cheats by changing

> several pieces in one move, who not only can read your thoughts but

> who can also inject hormones directly into your brain.

>

> There seem to be only two forms of motivation for losing weight:

> vanity and concern about health. Vanity is a very weak, fickle

> motivation but you could exploit concern for your health by exposing

> yourself to as much information as possible about the end stages of

> obesity: medical texts with pictures of hip joint replacement

> operations, pictures of diseased hearts taken during post-mortem

> examinations, etc. I know that those examples are extreme but you can

> start with simple texts and work up to the others gradually!

>

> I first became motivated by sharing a hospital room with a guy who

> had just had a hip joint replacement operation. He groaned and swore

> all day and all night and never tired of showing me his scars and

> bruises. He had more overweight than I had but he not only ate a full

> menu of meals but he was also kept well provided for by his family

> bringing him biscuits and cakes from home.

>

> In the end nobody can motivate you, you have to do it yourself. You

> have to want to lose weight or stay as you are and accept the

> consequences. To be able to accept the consequences, you have to know

> what they are. That is why I recommend that you collect as much

> information on obesity as you can. There is more than enough of it on

> the Internet.

>

> At best you will lose weight when your body lets you - you can help

> out by giving it the right conditions.

>

> Suggestions:

> -----------

> You can burn up fat in your sleep. Or rather your muscles will do it

> for you - if you have enough of them. You don't have to go jogging to

> make muscles, you can do it by weight lifting, starting with small

> hand weights and working up gradually in weight and gradually

> increasing the number of repetitions. The weights cost only a few

> dollars.

>

> You can exercise at home by using a " step " , starting with a small

> step and a few exercises and gradually increasing the number of

> repetitions and the height of the step. You can eventually increase

> the benefit by carrying your weights in your hands as you step. You

> should be able to find a robust " step " for US$45 - US$99, depending

> upon whether you want " Reebock " on it or not. Don't confuse that with

> a mini-stepper - unless you plan to give up after a few months

> because that is as long as they hold out.

>

> You can develop abdominal muscles lying on the floor by using

> a " roller " , a frame that supports your head and neck as you lift the

> upper part of your body off the floor.

>

> These three procedures have the advantage that you can do them at

> home in private any time of the day at no expense whereas starting

> off as a beginner in a fitness studio might turn you off and can cost

> big bucks.

>

> The most important thing to remember is: safety first. Always do

> light exercises to warm up before you start and to cool down once you

> are through and don't do anything risky. Always exercise with

> sufficient space all around so that if you fall, you don't hit

> anything with sharp edges. And stop when you begin to feel bad.

>

> The principle is that you keep on the move as much as possible, and

> work against a resistance as much and as often as you can take it

> without overdoing it. Make sitting down the exception. Never watch TV

> sitting down. If you must watch TV, do your exercises in front of the

> TV set. But start small and work up gradually.

>

> Oh yes, Glen, many people will recommend you follow a diet but I

> would advise against it - they simply do not work long-term. What you

> can do is to eat healthy food in accordance with a balanced meal plan

> but you should be doing that already for your diabetes anyway. By

> healthy food I mean natural food and as little as possible out of a

> packet - nothing at all out of a packet is even better. Hardly

> anybody ever got fat eating natural food but a lot have got rich

> selling processed food, and many others have made themselves ill by

> eating it.

>

> Many people have done quite well selling books about diets, too. It

> won't do you any harm to read them if you have the time but I

> guarantee you that for every diet book that recommends you do a

> certain thing there is another out there that recommends you don't!

>

> That is my opinion based on my own experiences and some of the

> medical literature and textbooks I have accumulated.

>

> I wish you success which ever way you decide to tackle the job!

>

> Thornton

> Pforzheim, Germany

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/30/01 3:03:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, j459g@...

writes:

>

>

> > Now, I need to loose the 100 lbs and my

> > body is not physically able to do the walking.

> > I need some motivation and suggestions.

>

Thank you for you input. Point well taken.

> Hi, Glen! To call it by its right name, obesity is a chronic disease

> just like diabetes but many times more difficult to manage. Not all

> diabetics are obese and not all obese people are diabetic but the two

> conditions are co-morbidities and risk factors of each other.

>

> I am a moderator of a yahoo German group for overweight people, have

> spent some time on the subject and have heard from hundreds of fellow

> sufferers and if you had shown up there I would have answered you as

> follows:

>

> Target:

> ---------

> You do not need to lose 100 lbs to improve your health. If you are

> overweight, ANY reduction in body weight will improve you health and

> reduce your risk of co-morbidities to some degree. The secret is to

> set yourself a realistic, achievable, target and 100 lbs is neither

> realistic nor achievable in my opinion; not in the foreseeable

> future, at any rate.

>

> The reported average healthy, achievable and sustainable long-term

> weight loss is about half a pound a week so you are talking about a 4-

> year program if your target is 100 lbs - and four years is a long

> time in weight loss terms. Naturally you can lose weight faster than

> that for short periods but in the long term it will be a zigzag

> process, zig you lose some, zag you gain some back.

>

> I would recommend that you set yourself an initial target of 10 - 20

> lbs. Achieving that will give you some encouragement, improve your

> health noticeably, reduce the load on your back a little and satisfy

> your doctors that you are on the right road.

>

> Motivation:

> --------------

> To lose weight, your body will need to start burning off excess fat.

> But the process by which your body burns fat from its fat reserves is

> not under the control of your will. In fact, your complete metabolism

> is regulated by control loops, mostly hormones and enzymes, which you

> cannot directly influence. Some of those control loops extend outside

> your body and include your food intake. Some of them include your

> brain.

>

> I have seen it explained in this way: Losing weight is like playing

> chess against a world champion, a champion who cheats by changing

> several pieces in one move, who not only can read your thoughts but

> who can also inject hormones directly into your brain.

>

> There seem to be only two forms of motivation for losing weight:

> vanity and concern about health. Vanity is a very weak, fickle

> motivation but you could exploit concern for your health by exposing

> yourself to as much information as possible about the end stages of

> obesity: medical texts with pictures of hip joint replacement

> operations, pictures of diseased hearts taken during post-mortem

> examinations, etc. I know that those examples are extreme but you can

> start with simple texts and work up to the others gradually!

>

> I first became motivated by sharing a hospital room with a guy who

> had just had a hip joint replacement operation. He groaned and swore

> all day and all night and never tired of showing me his scars and

> bruises. He had more overweight than I had but he not only ate a full

> menu of meals but he was also kept well provided for by his family

> bringing him biscuits and cakes from home.

>

> In the end nobody can motivate you, you have to do it yourself. You

> have to want to lose weight or stay as you are and accept the

> consequences. To be able to accept the consequences, you have to know

> what they are. That is why I recommend that you collect as much

> information on obesity as you can. There is more than enough of it on

> the Internet.

>

> At best you will lose weight when your body lets you - you can help

> out by giving it the right conditions.

>

> Suggestions:

> -----------

> You can burn up fat in your sleep. Or rather your muscles will do it

> for you - if you have enough of them. You don't have to go jogging to

> make muscles, you can do it by weight lifting, starting with small

> hand weights and working up gradually in weight and gradually

> increasing the number of repetitions. The weights cost only a few

> dollars.

>

> You can exercise at home by using a " step " , starting with a small

> step and a few exercises and gradually increasing the number of

> repetitions and the height of the step. You can eventually increase

> the benefit by carrying your weights in your hands as you step. You

> should be able to find a robust " step " for US$45 - US$99, depending

> upon whether you want " Reebock " on it or not. Don't confuse that with

> a mini-stepper - unless you plan to give up after a few months

> because that is as long as they hold out.

>

> You can develop abdominal muscles lying on the floor by using

> a " roller " , a frame that supports your head and neck as you lift the

> upper part of your body off the floor.

>

> These three procedures have the advantage that you can do them at

> home in private any time of the day at no expense whereas starting

> off as a beginner in a fitness studio might turn you off and can cost

> big bucks.

>

> The most important thing to remember is: safety first. Always do

> light exercises to warm up before you start and to cool down once you

> are through and don't do anything risky. Always exercise with

> sufficient space all around so that if you fall, you don't hit

> anything with sharp edges. And stop when you begin to feel bad.

>

> The principle is that you keep on the move as much as possible, and

> work against a resistance as much and as often as you can take it

> without overdoing it. Make sitting down the exception. Never watch TV

> sitting down. If you must watch TV, do your exercises in front of the

> TV set. But start small and work up gradually.

>

> Oh yes, Glen, many people will recommend you follow a diet but I

> would advise against it - they simply do not work long-term. What you

> can do is to eat healthy food in accordance with a balanced meal plan

> but you should be doing that already for your diabetes anyway. By

> healthy food I mean natural food and as little as possible out of a

> packet - nothing at all out of a packet is even better. Hardly

> anybody ever got fat eating natural food but a lot have got rich

> selling processed food, and many others have made themselves ill by

> eating it.

>

> Many people have done quite well selling books about diets, too. It

> won't do you any harm to read them if you have the time but I

> guarantee you that for every diet book that recommends you do a

> certain thing there is another out there that recommends you don't!

>

> That is my opinion based on my own experiences and some of the

> medical literature and textbooks I have accumulated.

>

> I wish you success which ever way you decide to tackle the job!

>

> Thornton

> Pforzheim, Germany

>

>

[Guest guest]

Rick,

My Actos dosage is 30mg in addition to my insulin which is 41 units of

Humalog + 64 units of Humulin, spread out during the day. Today I talked my

Dr. into holding off on the Actos for 90 days, so I won't be taking that.

Robbie

At 05:49 PM 2/1/02 -0600, you wrote:

>Hi Robbie,

>

>Regarding the Actos, it will make you more sensitive to the Insulin, depending

>on the dosage. How many MG a day do you take? I would assume that they stared

>you low, about 10 MG a day. I am also a T2 using insulin. My total daily is

>about 48 units (28 units of Lantus at bedtime and 6 - 8 units of Humalog

>before meals).

>

>Welcome to the group~

>

>Rick

>

_________________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Rick,

My Actos dosage is 30mg in addition to my insulin which is 41 units of

Humalog + 64 units of Humulin, spread out during the day. Today I talked my

Dr. into holding off on the Actos for 90 days, so I won't be taking that.

Robbie

At 05:49 PM 2/1/02 -0600, you wrote:

>Hi Robbie,

>

>Regarding the Actos, it will make you more sensitive to the Insulin, depending

>on the dosage. How many MG a day do you take? I would assume that they stared

>you low, about 10 MG a day. I am also a T2 using insulin. My total daily is

>about 48 units (28 units of Lantus at bedtime and 6 - 8 units of Humalog

>before meals).

>

>Welcome to the group~

>

>Rick

>

_________________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi and welcome! I'm glad you found us!!!! I don't know much

about any of your conditions, but many of these lovely ladies will

Good luck with your IUI cycle and keep us posted on your progress!

Tara

BU

[Guest guest]

Sorry about the duplicate message!

[Guest guest]

Sorry about the duplicate message!

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group, !!

There seems to be a few others in this group with the T-shaped uterus that

were not exposed to DES.

So you are not alone.

I also do not know much about pituitary dysfunction/anovulation with primary

amenorrhea. But I am sure that you will get some input from the others.

Tammy

UD

[Guest guest]

Hi

I'm so sorry to hear your sad news and that you have had to go

through this... It is such a rollercoaster of emotions to have to

deal with isn't it? It's like your whole life just flips in the

space of a few weeks.

Whatever you do, please do not beat yourself up about the smoking

bit. Yes we all know it's not good but do remember that many people

smoke the whole way through their pregnancies and have seemingly

healthy babies. Don't blame yourself - most miscarriages are caused

due to chromosonal abnormalities - nothing else.

Anyway the best bit of news is that you're going to quit and I really

wish you ALL THE VERY BEST with this. Honestly, once done you will

feel sooooooooo good. It's not easy I know (I used to smoke

heavily). I found the little nicorette tablets that you pop under

your tongue helped more than the patches in as much as I was

controlling and satisfying the *need* for a cigarette - specifically

with a cup of tea, after a meal, with a drink etc etc. I used these

for about 6 weeks reducing the number I took each day until BINGO!!

If you both smoke, get your husband to join you in giving up too.

Sorry if that all sounded very patronising - I just really want you

to be able to do it!!

With best wishes

Tor

34, SU (UK) and who can be equally long-winded!

[Guest guest]

Hi

I'm so sorry to hear your sad news and that you have had to go

through this... It is such a rollercoaster of emotions to have to

deal with isn't it? It's like your whole life just flips in the

space of a few weeks.

Whatever you do, please do not beat yourself up about the smoking

bit. Yes we all know it's not good but do remember that many people

smoke the whole way through their pregnancies and have seemingly

healthy babies. Don't blame yourself - most miscarriages are caused

due to chromosonal abnormalities - nothing else.

Anyway the best bit of news is that you're going to quit and I really

wish you ALL THE VERY BEST with this. Honestly, once done you will

feel sooooooooo good. It's not easy I know (I used to smoke

heavily). I found the little nicorette tablets that you pop under

your tongue helped more than the patches in as much as I was

controlling and satisfying the *need* for a cigarette - specifically

with a cup of tea, after a meal, with a drink etc etc. I used these

for about 6 weeks reducing the number I took each day until BINGO!!

If you both smoke, get your husband to join you in giving up too.

Sorry if that all sounded very patronising - I just really want you

to be able to do it!!

With best wishes

Tor

34, SU (UK) and who can be equally long-winded!

[Guest guest]

Welcome Dr. Van Dijk

Kim Lauger

----------

>

>To: <CHARGE >

>Subject: introduction

>Date: Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 7:50 AM

>

>

> Dear members of the CHARGE LIST.

>

> Recently I have joined this very active list. I understand that it is

> mainly a parent group who exchanges information. As a professional for

> more than 4 decades in the field of children with multiple disabilities,

> I have become very much aware of the fact how crucial parent's role is

> when it comes to the education of children with disabilities. This

> sounds as we call it " opening an open door " , but it is not. I visit many

> countries in the world where parents sit literally in the " waiting room "

> whilst their child is being assessed by profies!

> I have a special reason to join the list, because I have been invited to

> attend as a guest presenter your conference next year. Reading your

> discussions and questions will help me to prepare my contribution.

> It is very likely that by next year I will have finished my 2nd cd

> rom.This will deal with the problems of challenging behavior (the first

> one is on assessment of children with multiple impairments, including

> one child with CHARGE)

> There is no yet in The Netherlands a Charge foundation as you have in

> the US, but we have an active working party of parents. I will meet them

> on August 27 and make them are of this wonderful service list.

> When I think I can offer my experience and knowledge to help you to

> solve one of the problems you put on the list, I will certainly pop up

> with an idea.

> Jan van Dijk (prof.dr.)

> The Netherlands

>

>

> Re: Therapist Needs Your Help

>

>

> Hello ,

>

> My opinion is that PECS systems or other similar systems can help when

> language appears to not be developing. In a vast majority of cases, PECS

> or

> similar adapted systems can lead to other formal language such as

> through

> speaking or signing. There can be fears that using such systems may

> preclude other language usage, but that is a tremendous myth.

>

> Ann Gloyn, deafblind specialist has also talked about factors that need

> to

> be in place before language may start to emerge. Look for some of her

> letters in the archives. They are wonderful.

>

> I also believe that apraxia and or dysarthria can affect CHARGE kids and

>

> reading the Apraxia-kids website offers numerous excellent resources for

>

> information on identification of these conditions and treatment options.

> If

> you have not already read that site, I think it offers extremely

> valuable

> and reliable information.

>

> I myself believe there are biochemical factors associated with some of

> the

> language difficulties in addition to deafness and blindness or

> deafblindness. From my perspective, digestion and processing factors,

> as

> well as environmental factors (toxins and/or pathogens) are probably

> linked

> to some of the learning issues we see in CHARGE

>

> Best luck with facilitating your CHARGEr's language growth. It is

> critical

> to other development.

>

>

> Mom to Kendra, 15, CHARGE, , 21 and Camille, 24 Southern

> California

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome Dr. Van Dijk

Kim Lauger

----------

>

>To: <CHARGE >

>Subject: introduction

>Date: Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 7:50 AM

>

>

> Dear members of the CHARGE LIST.

>

> Recently I have joined this very active list. I understand that it is

> mainly a parent group who exchanges information. As a professional for

> more than 4 decades in the field of children with multiple disabilities,

> I have become very much aware of the fact how crucial parent's role is

> when it comes to the education of children with disabilities. This

> sounds as we call it " opening an open door " , but it is not. I visit many

> countries in the world where parents sit literally in the " waiting room "

> whilst their child is being assessed by profies!

> I have a special reason to join the list, because I have been invited to

> attend as a guest presenter your conference next year. Reading your

> discussions and questions will help me to prepare my contribution.

> It is very likely that by next year I will have finished my 2nd cd

> rom.This will deal with the problems of challenging behavior (the first

> one is on assessment of children with multiple impairments, including

> one child with CHARGE)

> There is no yet in The Netherlands a Charge foundation as you have in

> the US, but we have an active working party of parents. I will meet them

> on August 27 and make them are of this wonderful service list.

> When I think I can offer my experience and knowledge to help you to

> solve one of the problems you put on the list, I will certainly pop up

> with an idea.

> Jan van Dijk (prof.dr.)

> The Netherlands

>

>

> Re: Therapist Needs Your Help

>

>

> Hello ,

>

> My opinion is that PECS systems or other similar systems can help when

> language appears to not be developing. In a vast majority of cases, PECS

> or

> similar adapted systems can lead to other formal language such as

> through

> speaking or signing. There can be fears that using such systems may

> preclude other language usage, but that is a tremendous myth.

>

> Ann Gloyn, deafblind specialist has also talked about factors that need

> to

> be in place before language may start to emerge. Look for some of her

> letters in the archives. They are wonderful.

>

> I also believe that apraxia and or dysarthria can affect CHARGE kids and

>

> reading the Apraxia-kids website offers numerous excellent resources for

>

> information on identification of these conditions and treatment options.

> If

> you have not already read that site, I think it offers extremely

> valuable

> and reliable information.

>

> I myself believe there are biochemical factors associated with some of

> the

> language difficulties in addition to deafness and blindness or

> deafblindness. From my perspective, digestion and processing factors,

> as

> well as environmental factors (toxins and/or pathogens) are probably

> linked

> to some of the learning issues we see in CHARGE

>

> Best luck with facilitating your CHARGEr's language growth. It is

> critical

> to other development.

>

>

> Mom to Kendra, 15, CHARGE, , 21 and Camille, 24 Southern

> California

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome Dr. Van Dijk

Kim Lauger

----------

>

>To: <CHARGE >

>Subject: introduction

>Date: Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 7:50 AM

>

>

> Dear members of the CHARGE LIST.

>

> Recently I have joined this very active list. I understand that it is

> mainly a parent group who exchanges information. As a professional for

> more than 4 decades in the field of children with multiple disabilities,

> I have become very much aware of the fact how crucial parent's role is

> when it comes to the education of children with disabilities. This

> sounds as we call it " opening an open door " , but it is not. I visit many

> countries in the world where parents sit literally in the " waiting room "

> whilst their child is being assessed by profies!

> I have a special reason to join the list, because I have been invited to

> attend as a guest presenter your conference next year. Reading your

> discussions and questions will help me to prepare my contribution.

> It is very likely that by next year I will have finished my 2nd cd

> rom.This will deal with the problems of challenging behavior (the first

> one is on assessment of children with multiple impairments, including

> one child with CHARGE)

> There is no yet in The Netherlands a Charge foundation as you have in

> the US, but we have an active working party of parents. I will meet them

> on August 27 and make them are of this wonderful service list.

> When I think I can offer my experience and knowledge to help you to

> solve one of the problems you put on the list, I will certainly pop up

> with an idea.

> Jan van Dijk (prof.dr.)

> The Netherlands

>

>

> Re: Therapist Needs Your Help

>

>

> Hello ,

>

> My opinion is that PECS systems or other similar systems can help when

> language appears to not be developing. In a vast majority of cases, PECS

> or

> similar adapted systems can lead to other formal language such as

> through

> speaking or signing. There can be fears that using such systems may

> preclude other language usage, but that is a tremendous myth.

>

> Ann Gloyn, deafblind specialist has also talked about factors that need

> to

> be in place before language may start to emerge. Look for some of her

> letters in the archives. They are wonderful.

>

> I also believe that apraxia and or dysarthria can affect CHARGE kids and

>

> reading the Apraxia-kids website offers numerous excellent resources for

>

> information on identification of these conditions and treatment options.

> If

> you have not already read that site, I think it offers extremely

> valuable

> and reliable information.

>

> I myself believe there are biochemical factors associated with some of

> the

> language difficulties in addition to deafness and blindness or

> deafblindness. From my perspective, digestion and processing factors,

> as

> well as environmental factors (toxins and/or pathogens) are probably

> linked

> to some of the learning issues we see in CHARGE

>

> Best luck with facilitating your CHARGEr's language growth. It is

> critical

> to other development.

>

>

> Mom to Kendra, 15, CHARGE, , 21 and Camille, 24 Southern

> California

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the list looking forward to meeting you.

, mom to Timmy almost 7 ChARGE, keegan 4, liam 21 mo. wife to pat

Re: Therapist Needs Your Help

>

>

> Hello ,

>

> My opinion is that PECS systems or other similar systems can help when

> language appears to not be developing. In a vast majority of cases, PECS

> or

> similar adapted systems can lead to other formal language such as

> through

> speaking or signing. There can be fears that using such systems may

> preclude other language usage, but that is a tremendous myth.

>

> Ann Gloyn, deafblind specialist has also talked about factors that need

> to

> be in place before language may start to emerge. Look for some of her

> letters in the archives. They are wonderful.

>

> I also believe that apraxia and or dysarthria can affect CHARGE kids and

>

> reading the Apraxia-kids website offers numerous excellent resources for

>

> information on identification of these conditions and treatment options.

> If

> you have not already read that site, I think it offers extremely

> valuable

> and reliable information.

>

> I myself believe there are biochemical factors associated with some of

> the

> language difficulties in addition to deafness and blindness or

> deafblindness. From my perspective, digestion and processing factors,

> as

> well as environmental factors (toxins and/or pathogens) are probably

> linked

> to some of the learning issues we see in CHARGE

>

> Best luck with facilitating your CHARGEr's language growth. It is

> critical

> to other development.

>

>

> Mom to Kendra, 15, CHARGE, , 21 and Camille, 24 Southern

> California

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the list looking forward to meeting you.

, mom to Timmy almost 7 ChARGE, keegan 4, liam 21 mo. wife to pat

Re: Therapist Needs Your Help

>

>

> Hello ,

>

> My opinion is that PECS systems or other similar systems can help when

> language appears to not be developing. In a vast majority of cases, PECS

> or

> similar adapted systems can lead to other formal language such as

> through

> speaking or signing. There can be fears that using such systems may

> preclude other language usage, but that is a tremendous myth.

>

> Ann Gloyn, deafblind specialist has also talked about factors that need

> to

> be in place before language may start to emerge. Look for some of her

> letters in the archives. They are wonderful.

>

> I also believe that apraxia and or dysarthria can affect CHARGE kids and

>

> reading the Apraxia-kids website offers numerous excellent resources for

>

> information on identification of these conditions and treatment options.

> If

> you have not already read that site, I think it offers extremely

> valuable

> and reliable information.

>

> I myself believe there are biochemical factors associated with some of

> the

> language difficulties in addition to deafness and blindness or

> deafblindness. From my perspective, digestion and processing factors,

> as

> well as environmental factors (toxins and/or pathogens) are probably

> linked

> to some of the learning issues we see in CHARGE

>

> Best luck with facilitating your CHARGEr's language growth. It is

> critical

> to other development.

>

>

> Mom to Kendra, 15, CHARGE, , 21 and Camille, 24 Southern

> California

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the list looking forward to meeting you.

, mom to Timmy almost 7 ChARGE, keegan 4, liam 21 mo. wife to pat

Re: Therapist Needs Your Help

>

>

> Hello ,

>

> My opinion is that PECS systems or other similar systems can help when

> language appears to not be developing. In a vast majority of cases, PECS

> or

> similar adapted systems can lead to other formal language such as

> through

> speaking or signing. There can be fears that using such systems may

> preclude other language usage, but that is a tremendous myth.

>

> Ann Gloyn, deafblind specialist has also talked about factors that need

> to

> be in place before language may start to emerge. Look for some of her

> letters in the archives. They are wonderful.

>

> I also believe that apraxia and or dysarthria can affect CHARGE kids and

>

> reading the Apraxia-kids website offers numerous excellent resources for

>

> information on identification of these conditions and treatment options.

> If

> you have not already read that site, I think it offers extremely

> valuable

> and reliable information.

>

> I myself believe there are biochemical factors associated with some of

> the

> language difficulties in addition to deafness and blindness or

> deafblindness. From my perspective, digestion and processing factors,

> as

> well as environmental factors (toxins and/or pathogens) are probably

> linked

> to some of the learning issues we see in CHARGE

>

> Best luck with facilitating your CHARGEr's language growth. It is

> critical

> to other development.

>

>

> Mom to Kendra, 15, CHARGE, , 21 and Camille, 24 Southern

> California

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dr. van Dljk,

Welcome to the CHARGE listserv, I hope many of the parents you work with will

come here also. It's great to see professionals taking such a big interest, it

means a lot to us...

~ Weir

Mom to Kennedy, 4yr old CHARGEr, 13, 11, and wife to Graeme

New Brunswick, Canada

Visit the Weir Website: http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/gweir

ICQ# 1426476

Re: Therapist Needs Your Help

Hello ,

My opinion is that PECS systems or other similar systems can help when

language appears to not be developing. In a vast majority of cases, PECS

or

similar adapted systems can lead to other formal language such as

through

speaking or signing. There can be fears that using such systems may

preclude other language usage, but that is a tremendous myth.

Ann Gloyn, deafblind specialist has also talked about factors that need

to

be in place before language may start to emerge. Look for some of her

letters in the archives. They are wonderful.

I also believe that apraxia and or dysarthria can affect CHARGE kids and

reading the Apraxia-kids website offers numerous excellent resources for

information on identification of these conditions and treatment options.

If

you have not already read that site, I think it offers extremely

valuable

and reliable information.

I myself believe there are biochemical factors associated with some of

the

language difficulties in addition to deafness and blindness or

deafblindness. From my perspective, digestion and processing factors,

as

well as environmental factors (toxins and/or pathogens) are probably

linked

to some of the learning issues we see in CHARGE

Best luck with facilitating your CHARGEr's language growth. It is

critical

to other development.

Mom to Kendra, 15, CHARGE, , 21 and Camille, 24 Southern

California