Introduction

[Guest guest]

I'm actually new to the group, but read your story and am so sorry for

what you've been through. I thought I'd offer a thought I had when

reading about the disagreement between you and your husband about how

to proceed.

Certainly, getting a good medical opinion seems worthwhile. But

something that might help in the meantime, which I've been trying to

do myself (as I wait for my appointment with an RE) is this:

I've tried to sit and imagine some future paths different than the one

I originally expected. I have no children yet, but always pictured a

family with 2 or so children. Of course, I envisioned them coming the

natural way. But I've recently started to picture the possibility of,

for example, my husband and I with perhaps 2 adopted children (and our

4 cats). It actually doesn't seem like the end of the world. Not

what I'd always pictured before... but as I think about it, I could

imagine it. Then I start imagining it being a potentially enriching

experience. And as I continue, I even find myself feeling a little

optimistic.

Anyway, just considering such alternatives make the wait for medical

opinions a little easier. Perhaps you could try to picture a few

different paths for your own family's future. And maybe you'll find

that one of the ones you haven't really had to consider before really

isn't so bad. Maybe you'll find one that both you and your husband

can feel positive about together.

[Guest guest]

I'm actually new to the group, but read your story and am so sorry for

what you've been through. I thought I'd offer a thought I had when

reading about the disagreement between you and your husband about how

to proceed.

Certainly, getting a good medical opinion seems worthwhile. But

something that might help in the meantime, which I've been trying to

do myself (as I wait for my appointment with an RE) is this:

I've tried to sit and imagine some future paths different than the one

I originally expected. I have no children yet, but always pictured a

family with 2 or so children. Of course, I envisioned them coming the

natural way. But I've recently started to picture the possibility of,

for example, my husband and I with perhaps 2 adopted children (and our

4 cats). It actually doesn't seem like the end of the world. Not

what I'd always pictured before... but as I think about it, I could

imagine it. Then I start imagining it being a potentially enriching

experience. And as I continue, I even find myself feeling a little

optimistic.

Anyway, just considering such alternatives make the wait for medical

opinions a little easier. Perhaps you could try to picture a few

different paths for your own family's future. And maybe you'll find

that one of the ones you haven't really had to consider before really

isn't so bad. Maybe you'll find one that both you and your husband

can feel positive about together.

[Guest guest]

Hi Judith,

Welcome to our group, but sorry you have to be here. Did you have a D & C after delivery? When was your child born? Did you breastfeed? If yes, how long? And when you finished, is this when you realized your periods didn't come back? Where do you live?

After your diagnostic hystero, did your doctor tell you you had Ashermans? If yes, how bad was it? Do you have an open cavity, partially open cavity, closed cavity? Has anyone checked your endometrial lining thickness at Cycle day 12-14? Are you still having no periods?

As you can see, there are lots of questions we need answers to before we can give you much guidance. But, one thing I can tell you for sure is that you need to go to a doctor that knows how to treat this condition. You definitely don't want to go to a doctor to do surgery on you that is inexperienced, they can permently damage your uterus.

Ashermans in almost all cases is treated with surgery, either hysteroscopy or both hystero/laparascopy. The skill level required for surgery depends on your lesions and how badly your uterus is scarred. If your uterine walls are adhered together than I would recommend that you see one of the A list doctors on our egroups home page. Since you haven't had a period, you may have moderate to severe scarring, and therefore you should see a specialist. Severe scarring, or when your cavity is completely scarred in, is a difficult surgery and requires an exceptionally skilled surgeon. After and sometimes before the surgery, the doctor will place you on high dose estrogen therapy. Estrogen promotes healing of the endometrial lining (the lining of your uterus which responds to hormones and engorges with blood and nutrients required to sustain a pregnancy). When scarring occurs, it takes the place of this lining and without endometrial lining you have no periods. Ashermans very frequently occurs post partum after a D & C. And when a mother nurses she naturally has low levels of estrogen and her uterus is fragile, so without estrogen and scraping of the uterine walls, these two combined, causes Ashermans. Ashermans can be caused other ways, but this is the most frequent way. That is why I asked if you nursed and had a D & C after delivery. If you didn't have a D & C, did you have a C section, or an infection?

Ok, that's enough saturation for your brian for now. Let me know the answers to your questions and we go from there.

[Guest guest]

Hi Judith,

Welcome to our group, but sorry you have to be here. Did you have a D & C after delivery? When was your child born? Did you breastfeed? If yes, how long? And when you finished, is this when you realized your periods didn't come back? Where do you live?

After your diagnostic hystero, did your doctor tell you you had Ashermans? If yes, how bad was it? Do you have an open cavity, partially open cavity, closed cavity? Has anyone checked your endometrial lining thickness at Cycle day 12-14? Are you still having no periods?

As you can see, there are lots of questions we need answers to before we can give you much guidance. But, one thing I can tell you for sure is that you need to go to a doctor that knows how to treat this condition. You definitely don't want to go to a doctor to do surgery on you that is inexperienced, they can permently damage your uterus.

Ashermans in almost all cases is treated with surgery, either hysteroscopy or both hystero/laparascopy. The skill level required for surgery depends on your lesions and how badly your uterus is scarred. If your uterine walls are adhered together than I would recommend that you see one of the A list doctors on our egroups home page. Since you haven't had a period, you may have moderate to severe scarring, and therefore you should see a specialist. Severe scarring, or when your cavity is completely scarred in, is a difficult surgery and requires an exceptionally skilled surgeon. After and sometimes before the surgery, the doctor will place you on high dose estrogen therapy. Estrogen promotes healing of the endometrial lining (the lining of your uterus which responds to hormones and engorges with blood and nutrients required to sustain a pregnancy). When scarring occurs, it takes the place of this lining and without endometrial lining you have no periods. Ashermans very frequently occurs post partum after a D & C. And when a mother nurses she naturally has low levels of estrogen and her uterus is fragile, so without estrogen and scraping of the uterine walls, these two combined, causes Ashermans. Ashermans can be caused other ways, but this is the most frequent way. That is why I asked if you nursed and had a D & C after delivery. If you didn't have a D & C, did you have a C section, or an infection?

Ok, that's enough saturation for your brian for now. Let me know the answers to your questions and we go from there.

[Guest guest]

Hi Judith,

Welcome to our group, but sorry you have to be here. Did you have a D & C after delivery? When was your child born? Did you breastfeed? If yes, how long? And when you finished, is this when you realized your periods didn't come back? Where do you live?

After your diagnostic hystero, did your doctor tell you you had Ashermans? If yes, how bad was it? Do you have an open cavity, partially open cavity, closed cavity? Has anyone checked your endometrial lining thickness at Cycle day 12-14? Are you still having no periods?

As you can see, there are lots of questions we need answers to before we can give you much guidance. But, one thing I can tell you for sure is that you need to go to a doctor that knows how to treat this condition. You definitely don't want to go to a doctor to do surgery on you that is inexperienced, they can permently damage your uterus.

Ashermans in almost all cases is treated with surgery, either hysteroscopy or both hystero/laparascopy. The skill level required for surgery depends on your lesions and how badly your uterus is scarred. If your uterine walls are adhered together than I would recommend that you see one of the A list doctors on our egroups home page. Since you haven't had a period, you may have moderate to severe scarring, and therefore you should see a specialist. Severe scarring, or when your cavity is completely scarred in, is a difficult surgery and requires an exceptionally skilled surgeon. After and sometimes before the surgery, the doctor will place you on high dose estrogen therapy. Estrogen promotes healing of the endometrial lining (the lining of your uterus which responds to hormones and engorges with blood and nutrients required to sustain a pregnancy). When scarring occurs, it takes the place of this lining and without endometrial lining you have no periods. Ashermans very frequently occurs post partum after a D & C. And when a mother nurses she naturally has low levels of estrogen and her uterus is fragile, so without estrogen and scraping of the uterine walls, these two combined, causes Ashermans. Ashermans can be caused other ways, but this is the most frequent way. That is why I asked if you nursed and had a D & C after delivery. If you didn't have a D & C, did you have a C section, or an infection?

Ok, that's enough saturation for your brian for now. Let me know the answers to your questions and we go from there.

[Guest guest]

Hello - Thanks for your introduction!! I've driven through Midland many times. I know where you're coming from about the baby weight. Having three kids in three years sure didn't help my body :-) I'm sorry to hear that you had a bad experience at your meetings. I think it's great that you decided to stay with the program at home though!! My birthday is in August so Rick and I will be looking at the Orbitrek machines until then - he *needs* to check out everything about a major purchase before we get it :-)

Have a great day!!

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[Guest guest]

Hello - Thanks for your introduction!! I've driven through Midland many times. I know where you're coming from about the baby weight. Having three kids in three years sure didn't help my body :-) I'm sorry to hear that you had a bad experience at your meetings. I think it's great that you decided to stay with the program at home though!! My birthday is in August so Rick and I will be looking at the Orbitrek machines until then - he *needs* to check out everything about a major purchase before we get it :-)

Have a great day!!

~~

[Guest guest]

Hello - Thanks for your introduction!! I've driven through Midland many times. I know where you're coming from about the baby weight. Having three kids in three years sure didn't help my body :-) I'm sorry to hear that you had a bad experience at your meetings. I think it's great that you decided to stay with the program at home though!! My birthday is in August so Rick and I will be looking at the Orbitrek machines until then - he *needs* to check out everything about a major purchase before we get it :-)

Have a great day!!

~~

[Guest guest]

Hello - Thanks for your introduction!! I've driven through Midland many times. I know where you're coming from about the baby weight. Having three kids in three years sure didn't help my body :-) I'm sorry to hear that you had a bad experience at your meetings. I think it's great that you decided to stay with the program at home though!! My birthday is in August so Rick and I will be looking at the Orbitrek machines until then - he *needs* to check out everything about a major purchase before we get it :-)

Have a great day!!

~~

[Guest guest]

Hello - Thanks for your introduction!! I've driven through Midland many times. I know where you're coming from about the baby weight. Having three kids in three years sure didn't help my body :-) I'm sorry to hear that you had a bad experience at your meetings. I think it's great that you decided to stay with the program at home though!! My birthday is in August so Rick and I will be looking at the Orbitrek machines until then - he *needs* to check out everything about a major purchase before we get it :-)

Have a great day!!

~~

[Guest guest]

Hello - Thanks for your introduction!! I've driven through Midland many times. I know where you're coming from about the baby weight. Having three kids in three years sure didn't help my body :-) I'm sorry to hear that you had a bad experience at your meetings. I think it's great that you decided to stay with the program at home though!! My birthday is in August so Rick and I will be looking at the Orbitrek machines until then - he *needs* to check out everything about a major purchase before we get it :-)

Have a great day!!

~~

[Guest guest]

Hello - Thanks for your introduction!! I've driven through Midland many times. I know where you're coming from about the baby weight. Having three kids in three years sure didn't help my body :-) I'm sorry to hear that you had a bad experience at your meetings. I think it's great that you decided to stay with the program at home though!! My birthday is in August so Rick and I will be looking at the Orbitrek machines until then - he *needs* to check out everything about a major purchase before we get it :-)

Have a great day!!

~~

[Guest guest]

Hello - Thanks for your introduction!! I've driven through Midland many times. I know where you're coming from about the baby weight. Having three kids in three years sure didn't help my body :-) I'm sorry to hear that you had a bad experience at your meetings. I think it's great that you decided to stay with the program at home though!! My birthday is in August so Rick and I will be looking at the Orbitrek machines until then - he *needs* to check out everything about a major purchase before we get it :-)

Have a great day!!

~~

[Guest guest]

Hello and Welcome to the group Shanna!! I'm happy to hear you're going to school to be a speech pathologist - my son went to one for 4 years!! Congrats on your weight loss last week!! You have some great words of wisdom - Set Small Goals. I think that is especially important with weight loss. It took us a while to put on the weight and it's going to take us just as long to lose the weight. This is a lifestyle change - not an overnight fix!! Setting small goals can help keep the motivation high :-)

Thanks so much for telling us about yourself - I look forward to hearing more from you!! Have a great day!!

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[Guest guest]

Hello and Welcome to the group Shanna!! I'm happy to hear you're going to school to be a speech pathologist - my son went to one for 4 years!! Congrats on your weight loss last week!! You have some great words of wisdom - Set Small Goals. I think that is especially important with weight loss. It took us a while to put on the weight and it's going to take us just as long to lose the weight. This is a lifestyle change - not an overnight fix!! Setting small goals can help keep the motivation high :-)

Thanks so much for telling us about yourself - I look forward to hearing more from you!! Have a great day!!

~~

[Guest guest]

Welcome ! I didn't realize I hadn't replied to your intro until after I emailed a reply to your palm question!! I haven't been able to exercise since starting the program. I'm hoping the kids and I can start walking now that school is out. But it's been so darn hot this week I don't want to take the little girls out - great excuse huh!! Maybe for my birthday I'll get the Orb machine I want - then there won't be any excuses :-)

Thanks so much for telling us a little about yourself. I'm looking forward to hearing more from you!!

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[Guest guest]

Welcome ! I didn't realize I hadn't replied to your intro until after I emailed a reply to your palm question!! I haven't been able to exercise since starting the program. I'm hoping the kids and I can start walking now that school is out. But it's been so darn hot this week I don't want to take the little girls out - great excuse huh!! Maybe for my birthday I'll get the Orb machine I want - then there won't be any excuses :-)

Thanks so much for telling us a little about yourself. I'm looking forward to hearing more from you!!

~~

[Guest guest]

Hi, Billie, welcome to the list. It's too bad you couldn't practice tight

control years earlier...the blindness could probably have been avoided.. Of

course, it's not your fault, when you were originally diagnosed no one even

knew about the benefits of tight control and modern testing methods weren't

available as they are now. But it's never too late to get those BGs in line.

And I'm sure you feel better with good the control you've achieved.

I work as a medical transcriptionist and I'm also an artist. Keeping

blindness -- and other diabetic complications -- at bay is my major

motivation for keeping my BGs under control...and so far, so good, smile.

Take care, Vicki

<< Hi,

My name is billie and I just found out about this list last night.

I've had type 1 diabetes for nearly thirty years.

I am also blind from diabetic retinopathy.

In the last six months I have finally decided to be a good diabetic and my

blood sugars now run from ninety to 120 most of the time. >>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Billie, welcome to the list. It's too bad you couldn't practice tight

control years earlier...the blindness could probably have been avoided.. Of

course, it's not your fault, when you were originally diagnosed no one even

knew about the benefits of tight control and modern testing methods weren't

available as they are now. But it's never too late to get those BGs in line.

And I'm sure you feel better with good the control you've achieved.

I work as a medical transcriptionist and I'm also an artist. Keeping

blindness -- and other diabetic complications -- at bay is my major

motivation for keeping my BGs under control...and so far, so good, smile.

Take care, Vicki

<< Hi,

My name is billie and I just found out about this list last night.

I've had type 1 diabetes for nearly thirty years.

I am also blind from diabetic retinopathy.

In the last six months I have finally decided to be a good diabetic and my

blood sugars now run from ninety to 120 most of the time. >>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Billie, welcome to the list. It's too bad you couldn't practice tight

control years earlier...the blindness could probably have been avoided.. Of

course, it's not your fault, when you were originally diagnosed no one even

knew about the benefits of tight control and modern testing methods weren't

available as they are now. But it's never too late to get those BGs in line.

And I'm sure you feel better with good the control you've achieved.

I work as a medical transcriptionist and I'm also an artist. Keeping

blindness -- and other diabetic complications -- at bay is my major

motivation for keeping my BGs under control...and so far, so good, smile.

Take care, Vicki

<< Hi,

My name is billie and I just found out about this list last night.

I've had type 1 diabetes for nearly thirty years.

I am also blind from diabetic retinopathy.

In the last six months I have finally decided to be a good diabetic and my

blood sugars now run from ninety to 120 most of the time. >>

[Guest guest]

Welcome, Billie. I'm glad you've joined us. We have many great success

stories in the shared files, as well as recipes and other information, and

there are lots of book ideas and links on our website. Both url's are at

the bottom of each message.

It sounds like you've improved your control tremendously. Would you like to

share with us how you did that?

Enjoy,

Barb

> In the last six months I have finally decided to be a good diabetic and my

> blood sugars now run from ninety to 120 most of the time.

[Guest guest]

Welcome, Billie. I'm glad you've joined us. We have many great success

stories in the shared files, as well as recipes and other information, and

there are lots of book ideas and links on our website. Both url's are at

the bottom of each message.

It sounds like you've improved your control tremendously. Would you like to

share with us how you did that?

Enjoy,

Barb

> In the last six months I have finally decided to be a good diabetic and my

> blood sugars now run from ninety to 120 most of the time.

[Guest guest]

Welcome, Billie. I'm glad you've joined us. We have many great success

stories in the shared files, as well as recipes and other information, and

there are lots of book ideas and links on our website. Both url's are at

the bottom of each message.

It sounds like you've improved your control tremendously. Would you like to

share with us how you did that?

Enjoy,

Barb

> In the last six months I have finally decided to be a good diabetic and my

> blood sugars now run from ninety to 120 most of the time.

[Guest guest]

hi Barb and thanks for the welcome.

Well the only thing I really did was stop buying the food I knew I couldn't

have.

No sugar at all except for Pop Tarts which I use to raise my blood sugar

when needed.

I won't sit and snack on those.

And I eat a lot of vegetables and rice and pasta.

A lot of diabetics tell me that I shouldn't eat that much rice or pasta but

it doesn't seem to bother me because I eat very little of it.

I don't eat between meals any more.

I never bring food to the computer or eat in front of the tv unless it's

actually a meal.

I'm also trying to drink more water.

I know that helps too!

It was just making myself decide that I dind't want any more damage to my

body like other diabetics I know are going through right now.

I know two people on dialysis right now and it isn't looking good for one of

them.

Again, thanks for the welcome and I already love this list!

Billie

Re: introduction

> Welcome, Billie. I'm glad you've joined us. We have many great success

> stories in the shared files, as well as recipes and other information, and

> there are lots of book ideas and links on our website. Both url's are at

> the bottom of each message.

>

> It sounds like you've improved your control tremendously. Would you like

to

> share with us how you did that?

>

> Enjoy,

> Barb

>

> > In the last six months I have finally decided to be a good diabetic and

my

> > blood sugars now run from ninety to 120 most of the time.

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> Website for Diabetes International:

> http://www.msteri.com/diabetes-info/diabetes_int

> Shared Files: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes_int/files

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[Guest guest]

hi Barb and thanks for the welcome.

Well the only thing I really did was stop buying the food I knew I couldn't

have.

No sugar at all except for Pop Tarts which I use to raise my blood sugar

when needed.

I won't sit and snack on those.

And I eat a lot of vegetables and rice and pasta.

A lot of diabetics tell me that I shouldn't eat that much rice or pasta but

it doesn't seem to bother me because I eat very little of it.

I don't eat between meals any more.

I never bring food to the computer or eat in front of the tv unless it's

actually a meal.

I'm also trying to drink more water.

I know that helps too!

It was just making myself decide that I dind't want any more damage to my

body like other diabetics I know are going through right now.

I know two people on dialysis right now and it isn't looking good for one of

them.

Again, thanks for the welcome and I already love this list!

Billie

Re: introduction

> Welcome, Billie. I'm glad you've joined us. We have many great success

> stories in the shared files, as well as recipes and other information, and

> there are lots of book ideas and links on our website. Both url's are at

> the bottom of each message.

>

> It sounds like you've improved your control tremendously. Would you like

to

> share with us how you did that?

>

> Enjoy,

> Barb

>

> > In the last six months I have finally decided to be a good diabetic and

my

> > blood sugars now run from ninety to 120 most of the time.

>

>

>

> **All email sent through this mail list is Copyrighted by the original

author. Permission must be obtained from the original author for the re-use

of any text (in whole or in part).

>

> Website for Diabetes International:

> http://www.msteri.com/diabetes-info/diabetes_int

> Shared Files: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes_int/files

>

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