Guest guest Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Wow greed is a strong word--pretty severe. I don't necessarily believe that I am greedy just because I want to eat a little bit more. Sometimes I like the way food taste, or maybe I am not paying too much attention to what I am eating or I feel like I won't be able to eat a particular food anymore or I am getting reading to ban a certain food from my diet and I overeat, my mental state is a bit off. But mostly what usually happens is that I have starved myself and I just have to eat whatever is in my path. Definitely not a good feeling but greedy? Not quite sure if that fits here. allie Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Wow greed is a strong word--pretty severe. I don't necessarily believe that I am greedy just because I want to eat a little bit more. Sometimes I like the way food taste, or maybe I am not paying too much attention to what I am eating or I feel like I won't be able to eat a particular food anymore or I am getting reading to ban a certain food from my diet and I overeat, my mental state is a bit off. But mostly what usually happens is that I have starved myself and I just have to eat whatever is in my path. Definitely not a good feeling but greedy? Not quite sure if that fits here. allie Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 You are not bad. I need to tell you that. You deserve life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Its a God given right! After I started really becoming " aware " of my diet mentality and making that " seperation " from my un-intuitive eating something strange started happening. I started hearing this little voice in my head telling me nasty things, " I knew it! Youre just a fat gluttonous pig! Youre using this as an excuse to pack on the pounds! You are nothing but a big fat cow! " The truth is that I was shocked and relieved simultaneously because I had heard that voice since I was 12 but now it was unmistakeable and crystal clear. Id been drowning it out with the " white noise " of dieting and food obsession, I think? I read an incredible book: " My Life without E.D. " She really pours out her strength, hope and experience by relating to her eating disorder as an abusive boyfriend (E.D). The concept really helped me seperate MY VOICE from EDs VOICE. (hes a jerk!) She even wrote the book with her therapist and they suggest exercises after each couple of chapters to help you " seperate from ED " . Amazing book! I love you. I think youre an incredible woman. Intuitive eating is about FINALLY listening to our bodies hunger signals and its going to take some trial and error to get there. We are learning. Mistakes happen. For me, E.D wants me to go there. He LOVES for me to ruminate on the source of my badness. He FEEDS on it. He wants us to be alone together forever and ever. E.D. wants me to forget intuitive eating and to come listen to him and try eating the way he suggests. E.D. says that intuitive eating wont make me look like the models in magazines or help me be " perfect " like he can. Well, Ive got some news for E.D. I listened to that jerk for years. He's an idiot. He lies! He contradicts himself. Its funny. ED never focuses on the GOOD things Ive done, just the mistakes Ive made. He likes to amplify them. He grabbed right on to the words " greed vs hunger " and started to go to town in my head. He likes night time because I am sleepy and easier to manipulate. What he doesnt understand though, is that this time its not going to work and I am going to share my experience with him to any of my friends he tries to visit or date. Im going to blow him out of the water! Im not listening to ED anymore. Even if I make mistakes, I deserve love and happiness no matter what and I think you do too! I love you > > good morning everyone ~ > > i received a couple more books (that's all ~ 3's my limit) from amazon > this weekend and one is linda moran's book. in it she talks about > eating to satiety ~ which we all know ~ and then questioning whether > the thing that pushes me to eat more is actual physical hunger or is it > greed? > > greed is the ugliest word i've come across in this entire educational > experience of learning to eat what my body wants and needs. > > according to linda, greed is the thing that makes us want to eat beyond > being full, just because it tastes good or whatever. > > just wondering how you all are combating this issue of " oh my stars, > this is so divine i want more more more? " i notice it's not a problem > except at night, when i want to eat for amusement. :-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 You are not bad. I need to tell you that. You deserve life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Its a God given right! After I started really becoming " aware " of my diet mentality and making that " seperation " from my un-intuitive eating something strange started happening. I started hearing this little voice in my head telling me nasty things, " I knew it! Youre just a fat gluttonous pig! Youre using this as an excuse to pack on the pounds! You are nothing but a big fat cow! " The truth is that I was shocked and relieved simultaneously because I had heard that voice since I was 12 but now it was unmistakeable and crystal clear. Id been drowning it out with the " white noise " of dieting and food obsession, I think? I read an incredible book: " My Life without E.D. " She really pours out her strength, hope and experience by relating to her eating disorder as an abusive boyfriend (E.D). The concept really helped me seperate MY VOICE from EDs VOICE. (hes a jerk!) She even wrote the book with her therapist and they suggest exercises after each couple of chapters to help you " seperate from ED " . Amazing book! I love you. I think youre an incredible woman. Intuitive eating is about FINALLY listening to our bodies hunger signals and its going to take some trial and error to get there. We are learning. Mistakes happen. For me, E.D wants me to go there. He LOVES for me to ruminate on the source of my badness. He FEEDS on it. He wants us to be alone together forever and ever. E.D. wants me to forget intuitive eating and to come listen to him and try eating the way he suggests. E.D. says that intuitive eating wont make me look like the models in magazines or help me be " perfect " like he can. Well, Ive got some news for E.D. I listened to that jerk for years. He's an idiot. He lies! He contradicts himself. Its funny. ED never focuses on the GOOD things Ive done, just the mistakes Ive made. He likes to amplify them. He grabbed right on to the words " greed vs hunger " and started to go to town in my head. He likes night time because I am sleepy and easier to manipulate. What he doesnt understand though, is that this time its not going to work and I am going to share my experience with him to any of my friends he tries to visit or date. Im going to blow him out of the water! Im not listening to ED anymore. Even if I make mistakes, I deserve love and happiness no matter what and I think you do too! I love you > > good morning everyone ~ > > i received a couple more books (that's all ~ 3's my limit) from amazon > this weekend and one is linda moran's book. in it she talks about > eating to satiety ~ which we all know ~ and then questioning whether > the thing that pushes me to eat more is actual physical hunger or is it > greed? > > greed is the ugliest word i've come across in this entire educational > experience of learning to eat what my body wants and needs. > > according to linda, greed is the thing that makes us want to eat beyond > being full, just because it tastes good or whatever. > > just wondering how you all are combating this issue of " oh my stars, > this is so divine i want more more more? " i notice it's not a problem > except at night, when i want to eat for amusement. :-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Thanks for all of the comments. I think I need to clarify ~ " greed " is Moran's term, not mine. That's what she calls that urge to eat past hunger just because something tastes good. She suggests asking yourself questions after eating to determine whether you're still actually physically hungry or if you're just enjoying eating and want to stick with it. It's not a value judgment, though the word itself brings up a lot of emotions for many of us, I imagine. lynette You are not bad. > > I need to tell you that. You deserve life, liberty and the pursuit > of happiness. Its a God given right! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Websters says: Main Entry: greed Pronunciation: 'grEd Function: noun Etymology: back-formation from greedy : a selfish and excessive desire for more of something (as money) than is needed Yes, Lynette. I am greedy with food. I am very very greedy with food. I am the queen of greed when it comes to food. My penance for my greed is the feeling of overeating which I must sit with each time I do it. It doesnt feel good. It hurts. It stretches my stomach and feels like a hard rock. The center of me feels VERY swollen and remorseful. It feels like a sin in my belly and as though I have fallen from grace. Yet, it is only the AMOUNT of food that moved it from Gods will to something beyond Gods will. Not the food itself. This is why I am learning to listen to my body again. Ive forgotten how to listen. What can I say? I am powerless and my life has become unmanageable. I am restless, irritable and discontented filled with shame, fear, guilt and remorse. When I admit these things daily, I then see that it is my disease and not me, I am granted freedom from the bondage of self so that I may better do thy will. I have a quote on my mirror that says: " Just because you make a mistake doesnt mean you are a mistake. " I love you. Good post! > > Thanks for all of the comments. I think I need to clarify ~ " greed " > is Moran's term, not mine. That's what she calls that urge to > eat past hunger just because something tastes good. > > She suggests asking yourself questions after eating to determine > whether you're still actually physically hungry or if you're just > enjoying eating and want to stick with it. It's not a value > judgment, though the word itself brings up a lot of emotions for > many of us, I imagine. > > > lynette > > You are not bad. > > > > I need to tell you that. You deserve life, liberty and the > pursuit > > of happiness. Its a God given right! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Websters says: Main Entry: greed Pronunciation: 'grEd Function: noun Etymology: back-formation from greedy : a selfish and excessive desire for more of something (as money) than is needed Yes, Lynette. I am greedy with food. I am very very greedy with food. I am the queen of greed when it comes to food. My penance for my greed is the feeling of overeating which I must sit with each time I do it. It doesnt feel good. It hurts. It stretches my stomach and feels like a hard rock. The center of me feels VERY swollen and remorseful. It feels like a sin in my belly and as though I have fallen from grace. Yet, it is only the AMOUNT of food that moved it from Gods will to something beyond Gods will. Not the food itself. This is why I am learning to listen to my body again. Ive forgotten how to listen. What can I say? I am powerless and my life has become unmanageable. I am restless, irritable and discontented filled with shame, fear, guilt and remorse. When I admit these things daily, I then see that it is my disease and not me, I am granted freedom from the bondage of self so that I may better do thy will. I have a quote on my mirror that says: " Just because you make a mistake doesnt mean you are a mistake. " I love you. Good post! > > Thanks for all of the comments. I think I need to clarify ~ " greed " > is Moran's term, not mine. That's what she calls that urge to > eat past hunger just because something tastes good. > > She suggests asking yourself questions after eating to determine > whether you're still actually physically hungry or if you're just > enjoying eating and want to stick with it. It's not a value > judgment, though the word itself brings up a lot of emotions for > many of us, I imagine. > > > lynette > > You are not bad. > > > > I need to tell you that. You deserve life, liberty and the > pursuit > > of happiness. Its a God given right! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Websters says: Main Entry: greed Pronunciation: 'grEd Function: noun Etymology: back-formation from greedy : a selfish and excessive desire for more of something (as money) than is needed Yes, Lynette. I am greedy with food. I am very very greedy with food. I am the queen of greed when it comes to food. My penance for my greed is the feeling of overeating which I must sit with each time I do it. It doesnt feel good. It hurts. It stretches my stomach and feels like a hard rock. The center of me feels VERY swollen and remorseful. It feels like a sin in my belly and as though I have fallen from grace. Yet, it is only the AMOUNT of food that moved it from Gods will to something beyond Gods will. Not the food itself. This is why I am learning to listen to my body again. Ive forgotten how to listen. What can I say? I am powerless and my life has become unmanageable. I am restless, irritable and discontented filled with shame, fear, guilt and remorse. When I admit these things daily, I then see that it is my disease and not me, I am granted freedom from the bondage of self so that I may better do thy will. I have a quote on my mirror that says: " Just because you make a mistake doesnt mean you are a mistake. " I love you. Good post! > > Thanks for all of the comments. I think I need to clarify ~ " greed " > is Moran's term, not mine. That's what she calls that urge to > eat past hunger just because something tastes good. > > She suggests asking yourself questions after eating to determine > whether you're still actually physically hungry or if you're just > enjoying eating and want to stick with it. It's not a value > judgment, though the word itself brings up a lot of emotions for > many of us, I imagine. > > > lynette > > You are not bad. > > > > I need to tell you that. You deserve life, liberty and the > pursuit > > of happiness. Its a God given right! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Actually I read the snippet of the book online when the author describes the term greed. I didn't mean to infer that you were passing any type of moral judgement so I hope I didn't come across that way. It wasn't my intention. I still feel like there are a lot of emotional and physical issues that goes into overeating to describe it as just greedy, but I am probably taking what the author is saying out of context because I have not read the book, that is just my take on it--doesn't mean it is correct. allie Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Actually I read the snippet of the book online when the author describes the term greed. I didn't mean to infer that you were passing any type of moral judgement so I hope I didn't come across that way. It wasn't my intention. I still feel like there are a lot of emotional and physical issues that goes into overeating to describe it as just greedy, but I am probably taking what the author is saying out of context because I have not read the book, that is just my take on it--doesn't mean it is correct. allie Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Actually I read the snippet of the book online when the author describes the term greed. I didn't mean to infer that you were passing any type of moral judgement so I hope I didn't come across that way. It wasn't my intention. I still feel like there are a lot of emotional and physical issues that goes into overeating to describe it as just greedy, but I am probably taking what the author is saying out of context because I have not read the book, that is just my take on it--doesn't mean it is correct. allie Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 > > > > good morning everyone ~ > > > > i received a couple more books (that's all ~ 3's my limit) from > amazon > > this weekend and one is linda moran's book. in it she talks about > > eating to satiety ~ which we all know ~ and then questioning > whether > > the thing that pushes me to eat more is actual physical hunger or > is it > > Need help with negative thoughts? A good book that I have found to help me is Feeling Good, the New Mood Therapy by D. Burns, M.D. Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 > > > > good morning everyone ~ > > > > i received a couple more books (that's all ~ 3's my limit) from > amazon > > this weekend and one is linda moran's book. in it she talks about > > eating to satiety ~ which we all know ~ and then questioning > whether > > the thing that pushes me to eat more is actual physical hunger or > is it > > Need help with negative thoughts? A good book that I have found to help me is Feeling Good, the New Mood Therapy by D. Burns, M.D. Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 > > > > good morning everyone ~ > > > > i received a couple more books (that's all ~ 3's my limit) from > amazon > > this weekend and one is linda moran's book. in it she talks about > > eating to satiety ~ which we all know ~ and then questioning > whether > > the thing that pushes me to eat more is actual physical hunger or > is it > > Need help with negative thoughts? A good book that I have found to help me is Feeling Good, the New Mood Therapy by D. Burns, M.D. Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 I love that you genderize your ED voice as a male! Emma wrote: You are not bad.I need to tell you that. You deserve life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Its a God given right! After I started really becoming "aware" of my diet mentality and making that "seperation" from my un-intuitive eating something strange started happening. I started hearing this little voice in my head telling me nasty things, "I knew it! Youre just a fat gluttonous pig! Youre using this as an excuse to pack on the pounds! You are nothing but a big fat cow!" The truth is that I was shocked and relieved simultaneously because I had heard that voice since I was 12 but now it was unmistakeable and crystal clear. Id been drowning it out with the "white noise" of dieting and food obsession, I think?I read an incredible book: "My Life without E.D."She really pours out her strength, hope and experience by relating to her eating disorder as an abusive boyfriend (E.D). The concept really helped me seperate MY VOICE from EDs VOICE. (hes a jerk!) She even wrote the book with her therapist and they suggest exercises after each couple of chapters to help you "seperate from ED". Amazing book!I love you. I think youre an incredible woman. Intuitive eating is about FINALLY listening to our bodies hunger signals and its going to take some trial and error to get there. We are learning. Mistakes happen. For me, E.D wants me to go there. He LOVES for me to ruminate on the source of my badness. He FEEDS on it. He wants us to be alone together forever and ever. E.D. wants me to forget intuitive eating and to come listen to him and try eating the way he suggests. E.D. says that intuitive eating wont make me look like the models in magazines or help me be "perfect" like he can. Well, Ive got some news for E.D. I listened to that jerk for years. He's an idiot. He lies! He contradicts himself. Its funny. ED never focuses on the GOOD things Ive done, just the mistakes Ive made. He likes to amplify them. He grabbed right on to the words "greed vs hunger" and started to go to town in my head. He likes night time because I am sleepy and easier to manipulate. What he doesnt understand though, is that this time its not going to work and I am going to share my experience with him to any of my friends he tries to visit or date. Im going to blow him out of the water!Im not listening to ED anymore.Even if I make mistakes, I deserve love and happiness no matter what and I think you do too!I love you>> good morning everyone ~ > > i received a couple more books (that's all ~ 3's my limit) from amazon > this weekend and one is linda moran's book. in it she talks about > eating to satiety ~ which we all know ~ and then questioning whether > the thing that pushes me to eat more is actual physical hunger or is it > greed?> > greed is the ugliest word i've come across in this entire educational > experience of learning to eat what my body wants and needs. > > according to linda, greed is the thing that makes us want to eat beyond > being full, just because it tastes good or whatever.> > just wondering how you all are combating this issue of "oh my stars, > this is so divine i want more more more?" i notice it's not a problem > except at night, when i want to eat for amusement. :-)> Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 I love that you genderize your ED voice as a male! Emma wrote: You are not bad.I need to tell you that. You deserve life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Its a God given right! After I started really becoming "aware" of my diet mentality and making that "seperation" from my un-intuitive eating something strange started happening. I started hearing this little voice in my head telling me nasty things, "I knew it! Youre just a fat gluttonous pig! Youre using this as an excuse to pack on the pounds! You are nothing but a big fat cow!" The truth is that I was shocked and relieved simultaneously because I had heard that voice since I was 12 but now it was unmistakeable and crystal clear. Id been drowning it out with the "white noise" of dieting and food obsession, I think?I read an incredible book: "My Life without E.D."She really pours out her strength, hope and experience by relating to her eating disorder as an abusive boyfriend (E.D). The concept really helped me seperate MY VOICE from EDs VOICE. (hes a jerk!) She even wrote the book with her therapist and they suggest exercises after each couple of chapters to help you "seperate from ED". Amazing book!I love you. I think youre an incredible woman. Intuitive eating is about FINALLY listening to our bodies hunger signals and its going to take some trial and error to get there. We are learning. Mistakes happen. For me, E.D wants me to go there. He LOVES for me to ruminate on the source of my badness. He FEEDS on it. He wants us to be alone together forever and ever. E.D. wants me to forget intuitive eating and to come listen to him and try eating the way he suggests. E.D. says that intuitive eating wont make me look like the models in magazines or help me be "perfect" like he can. Well, Ive got some news for E.D. I listened to that jerk for years. He's an idiot. He lies! He contradicts himself. Its funny. ED never focuses on the GOOD things Ive done, just the mistakes Ive made. He likes to amplify them. He grabbed right on to the words "greed vs hunger" and started to go to town in my head. He likes night time because I am sleepy and easier to manipulate. What he doesnt understand though, is that this time its not going to work and I am going to share my experience with him to any of my friends he tries to visit or date. Im going to blow him out of the water!Im not listening to ED anymore.Even if I make mistakes, I deserve love and happiness no matter what and I think you do too!I love you>> good morning everyone ~ > > i received a couple more books (that's all ~ 3's my limit) from amazon > this weekend and one is linda moran's book. in it she talks about > eating to satiety ~ which we all know ~ and then questioning whether > the thing that pushes me to eat more is actual physical hunger or is it > greed?> > greed is the ugliest word i've come across in this entire educational > experience of learning to eat what my body wants and needs. > > according to linda, greed is the thing that makes us want to eat beyond > being full, just because it tastes good or whatever.> > just wondering how you all are combating this issue of "oh my stars, > this is so divine i want more more more?" i notice it's not a problem > except at night, when i want to eat for amusement. :-)> Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 I love that you genderize your ED voice as a male! Emma wrote: You are not bad.I need to tell you that. You deserve life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Its a God given right! After I started really becoming "aware" of my diet mentality and making that "seperation" from my un-intuitive eating something strange started happening. I started hearing this little voice in my head telling me nasty things, "I knew it! Youre just a fat gluttonous pig! Youre using this as an excuse to pack on the pounds! You are nothing but a big fat cow!" The truth is that I was shocked and relieved simultaneously because I had heard that voice since I was 12 but now it was unmistakeable and crystal clear. Id been drowning it out with the "white noise" of dieting and food obsession, I think?I read an incredible book: "My Life without E.D."She really pours out her strength, hope and experience by relating to her eating disorder as an abusive boyfriend (E.D). The concept really helped me seperate MY VOICE from EDs VOICE. (hes a jerk!) She even wrote the book with her therapist and they suggest exercises after each couple of chapters to help you "seperate from ED". Amazing book!I love you. I think youre an incredible woman. Intuitive eating is about FINALLY listening to our bodies hunger signals and its going to take some trial and error to get there. We are learning. Mistakes happen. For me, E.D wants me to go there. He LOVES for me to ruminate on the source of my badness. He FEEDS on it. He wants us to be alone together forever and ever. E.D. wants me to forget intuitive eating and to come listen to him and try eating the way he suggests. E.D. says that intuitive eating wont make me look like the models in magazines or help me be "perfect" like he can. Well, Ive got some news for E.D. I listened to that jerk for years. He's an idiot. He lies! He contradicts himself. Its funny. ED never focuses on the GOOD things Ive done, just the mistakes Ive made. He likes to amplify them. He grabbed right on to the words "greed vs hunger" and started to go to town in my head. He likes night time because I am sleepy and easier to manipulate. What he doesnt understand though, is that this time its not going to work and I am going to share my experience with him to any of my friends he tries to visit or date. Im going to blow him out of the water!Im not listening to ED anymore.Even if I make mistakes, I deserve love and happiness no matter what and I think you do too!I love you>> good morning everyone ~ > > i received a couple more books (that's all ~ 3's my limit) from amazon > this weekend and one is linda moran's book. in it she talks about > eating to satiety ~ which we all know ~ and then questioning whether > the thing that pushes me to eat more is actual physical hunger or is it > greed?> > greed is the ugliest word i've come across in this entire educational > experience of learning to eat what my body wants and needs. > > according to linda, greed is the thing that makes us want to eat beyond > being full, just because it tastes good or whatever.> > just wondering how you all are combating this issue of "oh my stars, > this is so divine i want more more more?" i notice it's not a problem > except at night, when i want to eat for amusement. :-)> Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 I, too, have a strong negative reaction to that word. I know she's not passing judgment, but it is a loaded word for me. I believe in one of her blogs she talks about the fact that eating past satisfaction is even more of a waste of food than throwing it out; the excess turns to fat in our bodies, which can lay waste to our insides. I find that line of thinking a lot easier to " stomach. " (Sorry for the pun.) > > good morning everyone ~ > > i received a couple more books (that's all ~ 3's my limit) from amazon > this weekend and one is linda moran's book. in it she talks about > eating to satiety ~ which we all know ~ and then questioning whether > the thing that pushes me to eat more is actual physical hunger or is it > greed? > > greed is the ugliest word i've come across in this entire educational > experience of learning to eat what my body wants and needs. > > according to linda, greed is the thing that makes us want to eat beyond > being full, just because it tastes good or whatever. > > just wondering how you all are combating this issue of " oh my stars, > this is so divine i want more more more? " i notice it's not a problem > except at night, when i want to eat for amusement. :-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 I, too, have a strong negative reaction to that word. I know she's not passing judgment, but it is a loaded word for me. I believe in one of her blogs she talks about the fact that eating past satisfaction is even more of a waste of food than throwing it out; the excess turns to fat in our bodies, which can lay waste to our insides. I find that line of thinking a lot easier to " stomach. " (Sorry for the pun.) > > good morning everyone ~ > > i received a couple more books (that's all ~ 3's my limit) from amazon > this weekend and one is linda moran's book. in it she talks about > eating to satiety ~ which we all know ~ and then questioning whether > the thing that pushes me to eat more is actual physical hunger or is it > greed? > > greed is the ugliest word i've come across in this entire educational > experience of learning to eat what my body wants and needs. > > according to linda, greed is the thing that makes us want to eat beyond > being full, just because it tastes good or whatever. > > just wondering how you all are combating this issue of " oh my stars, > this is so divine i want more more more? " i notice it's not a problem > except at night, when i want to eat for amusement. :-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 That pun was funny! I liked it. You guys crack me up! > > > > good morning everyone ~ > > > > i received a couple more books (that's all ~ 3's my limit) from amazon > > this weekend and one is linda moran's book. in it she talks about > > eating to satiety ~ which we all know ~ and then questioning whether > > the thing that pushes me to eat more is actual physical hunger or is it > > greed? > > > > greed is the ugliest word i've come across in this entire educational > > experience of learning to eat what my body wants and needs. > > > > according to linda, greed is the thing that makes us want to eat beyond > > being full, just because it tastes good or whatever. > > > > just wondering how you all are combating this issue of " oh my stars, > > this is so divine i want more more more? " i notice it's not a problem > > except at night, when i want to eat for amusement. :-) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 That pun was funny! I liked it. You guys crack me up! > > > > good morning everyone ~ > > > > i received a couple more books (that's all ~ 3's my limit) from amazon > > this weekend and one is linda moran's book. in it she talks about > > eating to satiety ~ which we all know ~ and then questioning whether > > the thing that pushes me to eat more is actual physical hunger or is it > > greed? > > > > greed is the ugliest word i've come across in this entire educational > > experience of learning to eat what my body wants and needs. > > > > according to linda, greed is the thing that makes us want to eat beyond > > being full, just because it tastes good or whatever. > > > > just wondering how you all are combating this issue of " oh my stars, > > this is so divine i want more more more? " i notice it's not a problem > > except at night, when i want to eat for amusement. :-) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 I haven't read Moran's book. I wasn't planning to, as I don't feel the need to read another IE book at this point, but now I will be sure not to read it! Greed? I can think of few words that are more loaded than that. One of the biggest reasons we overeat is guilt. We feel guilty about overeating, which leads us to eat more. It's an insideous cycle of emotional eating. I don't see how someone could label their overeating as greed and not feel guilty about it. I know I would feel guilt if I thought I was being greedy all the time! I can see just how this would play out. Some poor woman would be having trouble stopping for whatever reason, doesn't really matter why. Then she would remember what she read. She is being greedy. She would feel that guilty tightness in her chest, and want to eat more to stuff it down. And I'm sorry, I just don't see how LM can claim that greed isn't a value judgment. It is so obviously a loaded word. For everyone. Go around and ask 10 people whether they think greed is good or bad. Unless one of those people is some white collar criminal, I'm fairly certain they will all say it's bad. I'm sorry if this came out as harsh. I'm not judging anyone on this thread. I think you all are fabulous! I'm posting this because I truly believe that called overeating greedy is detrimental to the IE process. I think you might be better off if you put that book down and picked up another one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Thanks for the posts! I do agree that the word greed is harsh BUT.... if I am to truly honor my bodys signals I must admit to myself when I am NOT listening too. Its only by going through the process I recover fully. At first, I was angry and defensive when I read this post. I have worked so hard to stop listening to that sinister voice who led me to eat more and more and more in direct defiance. Yet, now I see that just because I made a mistake doesnt mean I AM one. Accepting my greed and addressing it openly and honestly is SOOOO important. After all, how can I make sure I avoid the triggers of eating beyond my fullness level if I am not taking a complete look at those behaviors which gave me trouble.....hoarding, sneaking, hiding food.....if those apply to you, I dont know but I think some of us here can relate? When I worked in the library at school, the head librarian used to say to me when I wascomplaining about my ex husband.... " the opposite of love isnt hate....its indifference " I guess I am bringing this up because I notice when I am accepting, willing, open and honest about my greed then I no longer feel so defensive and angry when it is mentioned. I work in retail and have to hand out food samples sometimes....OH MY GOD! You should see how insane people are around free food. You wouldnt believe it!!!!! OF COURSE we are greedy......everyone is!!!! ))))) > > I haven't read Moran's book. I wasn't planning to, as I don't > feel the need to read another IE book at this point, but now I will > be sure not to read it! Greed? I can think of few words that are > more loaded than that. One of the biggest reasons we overeat is > guilt. We feel guilty about overeating, which leads us to eat > more. It's an insideous cycle of emotional eating. I don't see how > someone could label their overeating as greed and not feel guilty > about it. I know I would feel guilt if I thought I was being greedy > all the time! > > I can see just how this would play out. Some poor woman would be > having trouble stopping for whatever reason, doesn't really matter > why. Then she would remember what she read. She is being greedy. > She would feel that guilty tightness in her chest, and want to eat > more to stuff it down. > > And I'm sorry, I just don't see how LM can claim that greed isn't a > value judgment. It is so obviously a loaded word. For everyone. > Go around and ask 10 people whether they think greed is good or > bad. Unless one of those people is some white collar criminal, I'm > fairly certain they will all say it's bad. > > I'm sorry if this came out as harsh. I'm not judging anyone on this > thread. I think you all are fabulous! I'm posting this because I > truly believe that called overeating greedy is detrimental to the IE > process. I think you might be better off if you put that book down > and picked up another one. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Thanks for the posts! I do agree that the word greed is harsh BUT.... if I am to truly honor my bodys signals I must admit to myself when I am NOT listening too. Its only by going through the process I recover fully. At first, I was angry and defensive when I read this post. I have worked so hard to stop listening to that sinister voice who led me to eat more and more and more in direct defiance. Yet, now I see that just because I made a mistake doesnt mean I AM one. Accepting my greed and addressing it openly and honestly is SOOOO important. After all, how can I make sure I avoid the triggers of eating beyond my fullness level if I am not taking a complete look at those behaviors which gave me trouble.....hoarding, sneaking, hiding food.....if those apply to you, I dont know but I think some of us here can relate? When I worked in the library at school, the head librarian used to say to me when I wascomplaining about my ex husband.... " the opposite of love isnt hate....its indifference " I guess I am bringing this up because I notice when I am accepting, willing, open and honest about my greed then I no longer feel so defensive and angry when it is mentioned. I work in retail and have to hand out food samples sometimes....OH MY GOD! You should see how insane people are around free food. You wouldnt believe it!!!!! OF COURSE we are greedy......everyone is!!!! ))))) > > I haven't read Moran's book. I wasn't planning to, as I don't > feel the need to read another IE book at this point, but now I will > be sure not to read it! Greed? I can think of few words that are > more loaded than that. One of the biggest reasons we overeat is > guilt. We feel guilty about overeating, which leads us to eat > more. It's an insideous cycle of emotional eating. I don't see how > someone could label their overeating as greed and not feel guilty > about it. I know I would feel guilt if I thought I was being greedy > all the time! > > I can see just how this would play out. Some poor woman would be > having trouble stopping for whatever reason, doesn't really matter > why. Then she would remember what she read. She is being greedy. > She would feel that guilty tightness in her chest, and want to eat > more to stuff it down. > > And I'm sorry, I just don't see how LM can claim that greed isn't a > value judgment. It is so obviously a loaded word. For everyone. > Go around and ask 10 people whether they think greed is good or > bad. Unless one of those people is some white collar criminal, I'm > fairly certain they will all say it's bad. > > I'm sorry if this came out as harsh. I'm not judging anyone on this > thread. I think you all are fabulous! I'm posting this because I > truly believe that called overeating greedy is detrimental to the IE > process. I think you might be better off if you put that book down > and picked up another one. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Thanks for the posts! I do agree that the word greed is harsh BUT.... if I am to truly honor my bodys signals I must admit to myself when I am NOT listening too. Its only by going through the process I recover fully. At first, I was angry and defensive when I read this post. I have worked so hard to stop listening to that sinister voice who led me to eat more and more and more in direct defiance. Yet, now I see that just because I made a mistake doesnt mean I AM one. Accepting my greed and addressing it openly and honestly is SOOOO important. After all, how can I make sure I avoid the triggers of eating beyond my fullness level if I am not taking a complete look at those behaviors which gave me trouble.....hoarding, sneaking, hiding food.....if those apply to you, I dont know but I think some of us here can relate? When I worked in the library at school, the head librarian used to say to me when I wascomplaining about my ex husband.... " the opposite of love isnt hate....its indifference " I guess I am bringing this up because I notice when I am accepting, willing, open and honest about my greed then I no longer feel so defensive and angry when it is mentioned. I work in retail and have to hand out food samples sometimes....OH MY GOD! You should see how insane people are around free food. You wouldnt believe it!!!!! OF COURSE we are greedy......everyone is!!!! ))))) > > I haven't read Moran's book. I wasn't planning to, as I don't > feel the need to read another IE book at this point, but now I will > be sure not to read it! Greed? I can think of few words that are > more loaded than that. One of the biggest reasons we overeat is > guilt. We feel guilty about overeating, which leads us to eat > more. It's an insideous cycle of emotional eating. I don't see how > someone could label their overeating as greed and not feel guilty > about it. I know I would feel guilt if I thought I was being greedy > all the time! > > I can see just how this would play out. Some poor woman would be > having trouble stopping for whatever reason, doesn't really matter > why. Then she would remember what she read. She is being greedy. > She would feel that guilty tightness in her chest, and want to eat > more to stuff it down. > > And I'm sorry, I just don't see how LM can claim that greed isn't a > value judgment. It is so obviously a loaded word. For everyone. > Go around and ask 10 people whether they think greed is good or > bad. Unless one of those people is some white collar criminal, I'm > fairly certain they will all say it's bad. > > I'm sorry if this came out as harsh. I'm not judging anyone on this > thread. I think you all are fabulous! I'm posting this because I > truly believe that called overeating greedy is detrimental to the IE > process. I think you might be better off if you put that book down > and picked up another one. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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