Re: Ah the frustration!

[Guest guest]

She too is a diabetic.

Don't know how many years though and has worked at the hospital for years.

--Dar

--Every Saint has a Past,

Every Sinner has a Future

Re: Ah the frustration!

>

> Dar,

>

> Nurse and doctors are well-intentioned but if they haven't really had much

> diabetic training, they are probably spewing out a lot of false

> information.

> Too many of these nurses and doctors will tell you to " eat a candybar " or

> " drink orange juice " when your sugar gets really low. That information is

> not very good in light of what we know these days since those things will

> jump-start your sugar all right, but then the sugar level will keep rising

> past a good point. Find out what kind of diabetic teaching your doctor and

> nurse have had and see if it's current or " many years ago. "

>

> Bill

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dar,

I know of many diabetics who work in hospitals and doctors' offices that

should be educated to the newer thinking about diabetes treatment, but

aren't. Just because they are in their respective jobs doesn't mean they are

even managing their own diabetes correctly. They get their certificates or

licenses and then they seem to stop learning. If a doctor learned about

diabetes 20 years ago, chances are that's still his mode of teaching, he/she

is back in the " orange juice and candy bars " age, and may also think that

" you can eat all the pasta you want because it's good for you. " They may

still be thinking calories, not carbs. If for all their own hard work

they're not getting anywhere with the treatments they're using, then they

are probably just chalking it up to " that's the way it goes with diabetes "

without thinking that maybe there's a better way. I think that's why most of

us are here so we can get past the myths and the BS and get real information

and real help so that we can have real victories.

Suffice it to say, just because a doctor or nurse says such-and-such is OK,

it may or may not be. They're not perfect either, so in the end we need to

go farther than just asking our possibly out-of-touch doctor, so that we can

take a proactive stand in our own health destiny.

Bill Powers

[Guest guest]

Dar,

I know of many diabetics who work in hospitals and doctors' offices that

should be educated to the newer thinking about diabetes treatment, but

aren't. Just because they are in their respective jobs doesn't mean they are

even managing their own diabetes correctly. They get their certificates or

licenses and then they seem to stop learning. If a doctor learned about

diabetes 20 years ago, chances are that's still his mode of teaching, he/she

is back in the " orange juice and candy bars " age, and may also think that

" you can eat all the pasta you want because it's good for you. " They may

still be thinking calories, not carbs. If for all their own hard work

they're not getting anywhere with the treatments they're using, then they

are probably just chalking it up to " that's the way it goes with diabetes "

without thinking that maybe there's a better way. I think that's why most of

us are here so we can get past the myths and the BS and get real information

and real help so that we can have real victories.

Suffice it to say, just because a doctor or nurse says such-and-such is OK,

it may or may not be. They're not perfect either, so in the end we need to

go farther than just asking our possibly out-of-touch doctor, so that we can

take a proactive stand in our own health destiny.

Bill Powers

[Guest guest]

Dar,

I know of many diabetics who work in hospitals and doctors' offices that

should be educated to the newer thinking about diabetes treatment, but

aren't. Just because they are in their respective jobs doesn't mean they are

even managing their own diabetes correctly. They get their certificates or

licenses and then they seem to stop learning. If a doctor learned about

diabetes 20 years ago, chances are that's still his mode of teaching, he/she

is back in the " orange juice and candy bars " age, and may also think that

" you can eat all the pasta you want because it's good for you. " They may

still be thinking calories, not carbs. If for all their own hard work

they're not getting anywhere with the treatments they're using, then they

are probably just chalking it up to " that's the way it goes with diabetes "

without thinking that maybe there's a better way. I think that's why most of

us are here so we can get past the myths and the BS and get real information

and real help so that we can have real victories.

Suffice it to say, just because a doctor or nurse says such-and-such is OK,

it may or may not be. They're not perfect either, so in the end we need to

go farther than just asking our possibly out-of-touch doctor, so that we can

take a proactive stand in our own health destiny.

Bill Powers

[Guest guest]

I understand what you are saying,

but until I talk to the dietitian next week this is what I have to go on

now.

I won't take on the Atkins diet.

Have heard way too much goes wrong on it.

It will pull together when I finally get my accucheck and don't know when

that will be.

They are adjusting medicines for me so I just do one thing at a time.

All will change again when I can get started with reading my sugar count I

am sure.

Do appreciate all help though.

No one has ever told me what they eat in a twenty four hour day meal.

Except one, who eats the salad for lunch or dinner.

And that I do as well.

Got more salad yesterday when I went to the store.

I am riding a bike now and after I get done riding I am so thirsty it is

unreal.

I would even be glad to drink out of the faucet giggle.

--Dar

--Every Saint has a Past,

Every Sinner has a Future

Re: Ah the frustration!

>

> Dar,

>

> I know of many diabetics who work in hospitals and doctors' offices that

> should be educated to the newer thinking about diabetes treatment, but

> aren't. Just because they are in their respective jobs doesn't mean they

> are

> even managing their own diabetes correctly. They get their certificates or

> licenses and then they seem to stop learning. If a doctor learned about

> diabetes 20 years ago, chances are that's still his mode of teaching,

> he/she

> is back in the " orange juice and candy bars " age, and may also think that

> " you can eat all the pasta you want because it's good for you. " They may

> still be thinking calories, not carbs. If for all their own hard work

> they're not getting anywhere with the treatments they're using, then they

> are probably just chalking it up to " that's the way it goes with diabetes "

> without thinking that maybe there's a better way. I think that's why most

> of

> us are here so we can get past the myths and the BS and get real

> information

> and real help so that we can have real victories.

>

> Suffice it to say, just because a doctor or nurse says such-and-such is

> OK,

> it may or may not be. They're not perfect either, so in the end we need to

> go farther than just asking our possibly out-of-touch doctor, so that we

> can

> take a proactive stand in our own health destiny.

>

> Bill Powers

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dar,

What are you taking for a diabetic medication? Or are you taking anything

yet?

I know that before I was put on Actos, I was always very thirsty ever since

I was a teen. I always knew there was something wrong but somehow it took 30

years before a doc in Baltimore finally decided to take a hemoglobin A 1 c

test and there it was in black-and-white, I was diabetic. After taking the

Actos, almost from day one my thirst was cut way down.

That's what makes me curious if you are on any meds. If not, perhaps you

should be.

Bill

[Guest guest]

Dar,

What are you taking for a diabetic medication? Or are you taking anything

yet?

I know that before I was put on Actos, I was always very thirsty ever since

I was a teen. I always knew there was something wrong but somehow it took 30

years before a doc in Baltimore finally decided to take a hemoglobin A 1 c

test and there it was in black-and-white, I was diabetic. After taking the

Actos, almost from day one my thirst was cut way down.

That's what makes me curious if you are on any meds. If not, perhaps you

should be.

Bill

[Guest guest]

Yes I am on a sugar pill and a blood pressure pill that I was taking twice

daily and dropped down to once.

the names I gave a bit early but would have to look them up again.

I am sure something will change when they see where all is at.

--Dar

--Every Saint has a Past,

Every Sinner has a Future

Re: Ah the frustration!

>

> Dar,

>

> What are you taking for a diabetic medication? Or are you taking anything

> yet?

>

> I know that before I was put on Actos, I was always very thirsty ever

> since

> I was a teen. I always knew there was something wrong but somehow it took

> 30

> years before a doc in Baltimore finally decided to take a hemoglobin A 1 c

> test and there it was in black-and-white, I was diabetic. After taking the

> Actos, almost from day one my thirst was cut way down.

>

> That's what makes me curious if you are on any meds. If not, perhaps you

> should be.

>

> Bill

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes I am on a sugar pill and a blood pressure pill that I was taking twice

daily and dropped down to once.

the names I gave a bit early but would have to look them up again.

I am sure something will change when they see where all is at.

--Dar

--Every Saint has a Past,

Every Sinner has a Future

Re: Ah the frustration!

>

> Dar,

>

> What are you taking for a diabetic medication? Or are you taking anything

> yet?

>

> I know that before I was put on Actos, I was always very thirsty ever

> since

> I was a teen. I always knew there was something wrong but somehow it took

> 30

> years before a doc in Baltimore finally decided to take a hemoglobin A 1 c

> test and there it was in black-and-white, I was diabetic. After taking the

> Actos, almost from day one my thirst was cut way down.

>

> That's what makes me curious if you are on any meds. If not, perhaps you

> should be.

>

> Bill

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dar,

I am curious what you mean by a " sugar pill " ? When I think of a sugar pill I

think of a glucose tablet that raises my sugar in a very controlled manner

when my sugar is low. What I am referring to for diabetes control is

prescription medication, or insulin, to counteract the elevation of blood

sugar. You see, if we define a sugar pill as a glucose tablet, that's one

small part of the treatment, but that doesn't treat diabetes, it just treats

the temporary low blood sugar. You need to have something that helps your

pancreas to keep your blood sugars even. That's why I take Actos once daily.

Obviously, it's working for me since my hemoglobin A 1 c is down to a normal

range, and I intend to keep taking it because it's working.

You said something the other day that kind of stuck in my mind, and I need

to impart a response to you. And please take this in a constructive manner

and not one of putting you down.

Paraphrasing what you said the other day, you're taking baby steps, just one

thng at a time. That's fine, but just remember, you are doing what you can

to help YOU. Don't do things to impress your friends, your doctor, nurse, or

anybody else, because that doesn't really matter. You cannot fool your body,

and your body will never lie to you. The only one that knows how you truly

feel is YOU, and the only one that can really take charge of your own health

is YOU. Whatever steps you take, big or small, will benefit you a lot or a

little. If you only want small improvements in your health, baby steps will

do that. If you want more abundant response, that will depend on how much

you are willing to do for yourself. You control how fast your health will

improve, no one else can do that.

That said, this sounds like I'm putting a lot on you, and I'm not trying to

do that. You have a lot ahead of you and you are living in a place that is

making it even harder to get the kind of care you really need (such as

difficulty with transportation making it harder to see your doctor, etc.,)

Hey, I'm on your side, and please don't ever think I'm not. But just

remember that what you put into your diabetic management is what you will

get out of it. It's no picnic, Dar, and I won't pretend that it is. We don't

always get what we want in life, but there are things we can control, and if

something's controllable, we should do so to the best extent we can.

You WILL win this battle if you put your all into it. From what you learn

here, if you sincerely apply it in your life and give whatever advice you

get here, a really good try, you should make it. I've seen enough people sit

back and throw their hands up in the air and just say " it's all too much "

and they've all paid dearly for it. Please don't be one of those. Rather,

strive to live and live well.

That's why we're here to help!

Bill Powers

[Guest guest]

Dar,

I am curious what you mean by a " sugar pill " ? When I think of a sugar pill I

think of a glucose tablet that raises my sugar in a very controlled manner

when my sugar is low. What I am referring to for diabetes control is

prescription medication, or insulin, to counteract the elevation of blood

sugar. You see, if we define a sugar pill as a glucose tablet, that's one

small part of the treatment, but that doesn't treat diabetes, it just treats

the temporary low blood sugar. You need to have something that helps your

pancreas to keep your blood sugars even. That's why I take Actos once daily.

Obviously, it's working for me since my hemoglobin A 1 c is down to a normal

range, and I intend to keep taking it because it's working.

You said something the other day that kind of stuck in my mind, and I need

to impart a response to you. And please take this in a constructive manner

and not one of putting you down.

Paraphrasing what you said the other day, you're taking baby steps, just one

thng at a time. That's fine, but just remember, you are doing what you can

to help YOU. Don't do things to impress your friends, your doctor, nurse, or

anybody else, because that doesn't really matter. You cannot fool your body,

and your body will never lie to you. The only one that knows how you truly

feel is YOU, and the only one that can really take charge of your own health

is YOU. Whatever steps you take, big or small, will benefit you a lot or a

little. If you only want small improvements in your health, baby steps will

do that. If you want more abundant response, that will depend on how much

you are willing to do for yourself. You control how fast your health will

improve, no one else can do that.

That said, this sounds like I'm putting a lot on you, and I'm not trying to

do that. You have a lot ahead of you and you are living in a place that is

making it even harder to get the kind of care you really need (such as

difficulty with transportation making it harder to see your doctor, etc.,)

Hey, I'm on your side, and please don't ever think I'm not. But just

remember that what you put into your diabetic management is what you will

get out of it. It's no picnic, Dar, and I won't pretend that it is. We don't

always get what we want in life, but there are things we can control, and if

something's controllable, we should do so to the best extent we can.

You WILL win this battle if you put your all into it. From what you learn

here, if you sincerely apply it in your life and give whatever advice you

get here, a really good try, you should make it. I've seen enough people sit

back and throw their hands up in the air and just say " it's all too much "

and they've all paid dearly for it. Please don't be one of those. Rather,

strive to live and live well.

That's why we're here to help!

Bill Powers

[Guest guest]

Dar,

I am curious what you mean by a " sugar pill " ? When I think of a sugar pill I

think of a glucose tablet that raises my sugar in a very controlled manner

when my sugar is low. What I am referring to for diabetes control is

prescription medication, or insulin, to counteract the elevation of blood

sugar. You see, if we define a sugar pill as a glucose tablet, that's one

small part of the treatment, but that doesn't treat diabetes, it just treats

the temporary low blood sugar. You need to have something that helps your

pancreas to keep your blood sugars even. That's why I take Actos once daily.

Obviously, it's working for me since my hemoglobin A 1 c is down to a normal

range, and I intend to keep taking it because it's working.

You said something the other day that kind of stuck in my mind, and I need

to impart a response to you. And please take this in a constructive manner

and not one of putting you down.

Paraphrasing what you said the other day, you're taking baby steps, just one

thng at a time. That's fine, but just remember, you are doing what you can

to help YOU. Don't do things to impress your friends, your doctor, nurse, or

anybody else, because that doesn't really matter. You cannot fool your body,

and your body will never lie to you. The only one that knows how you truly

feel is YOU, and the only one that can really take charge of your own health

is YOU. Whatever steps you take, big or small, will benefit you a lot or a

little. If you only want small improvements in your health, baby steps will

do that. If you want more abundant response, that will depend on how much

you are willing to do for yourself. You control how fast your health will

improve, no one else can do that.

That said, this sounds like I'm putting a lot on you, and I'm not trying to

do that. You have a lot ahead of you and you are living in a place that is

making it even harder to get the kind of care you really need (such as

difficulty with transportation making it harder to see your doctor, etc.,)

Hey, I'm on your side, and please don't ever think I'm not. But just

remember that what you put into your diabetic management is what you will

get out of it. It's no picnic, Dar, and I won't pretend that it is. We don't

always get what we want in life, but there are things we can control, and if

something's controllable, we should do so to the best extent we can.

You WILL win this battle if you put your all into it. From what you learn

here, if you sincerely apply it in your life and give whatever advice you

get here, a really good try, you should make it. I've seen enough people sit

back and throw their hands up in the air and just say " it's all too much "

and they've all paid dearly for it. Please don't be one of those. Rather,

strive to live and live well.

That's why we're here to help!

Bill Powers

[Guest guest]

Bill this is again the first full week or second week.

I have to keep waiting for the times when the appointments are set for me to

go and make more changes.

Until then I am where I am at.

I am told I am on a sugar pill that won't lower my sugars I disagree but

that is what it is and until I can take my own sugar checks I can't make

changes at this time.

So I am trying to be as patient as possible.

It is also hard to know what to eat when no one says what they have eaten in

the last twenty four hours.

I can't follow a lead if I don't know.

I can only eat what I have here and was told it was ok.

Even if it is not, this is what is in the home until I can do differently.

And there are times I have to stick to the same meal each day because of

money going threw out the whole month.

But it will work out I will wait and keep you all posted on what I find out

each week.

You sure didn't say anything wrong but this is where it is at and one step

at a time is all I can do now.

Thanks so much.

--Dar

--Every Saint has a Past,

Every Sinner has a Future

Re: Ah the frustration!

>

> Dar,

>

> I am curious what you mean by a " sugar pill " ? When I think of a sugar pill

> I

> think of a glucose tablet that raises my sugar in a very controlled manner

> when my sugar is low. What I am referring to for diabetes control is

> prescription medication, or insulin, to counteract the elevation of blood

> sugar. You see, if we define a sugar pill as a glucose tablet, that's one

> small part of the treatment, but that doesn't treat diabetes, it just

> treats

> the temporary low blood sugar. You need to have something that helps your

> pancreas to keep your blood sugars even. That's why I take Actos once

> daily.

> Obviously, it's working for me since my hemoglobin A 1 c is down to a

> normal

> range, and I intend to keep taking it because it's working.

>

> You said something the other day that kind of stuck in my mind, and I need

> to impart a response to you. And please take this in a constructive manner

> and not one of putting you down.

>

> Paraphrasing what you said the other day, you're taking baby steps, just

> one

> thng at a time. That's fine, but just remember, you are doing what you can

> to help YOU. Don't do things to impress your friends, your doctor, nurse,

> or

> anybody else, because that doesn't really matter. You cannot fool your

> body,

> and your body will never lie to you. The only one that knows how you truly

> feel is YOU, and the only one that can really take charge of your own

> health

> is YOU. Whatever steps you take, big or small, will benefit you a lot or a

> little. If you only want small improvements in your health, baby steps

> will

> do that. If you want more abundant response, that will depend on how much

> you are willing to do for yourself. You control how fast your health will

> improve, no one else can do that.

>

> That said, this sounds like I'm putting a lot on you, and I'm not trying

> to

> do that. You have a lot ahead of you and you are living in a place that is

> making it even harder to get the kind of care you really need (such as

> difficulty with transportation making it harder to see your doctor, etc.,)

> Hey, I'm on your side, and please don't ever think I'm not. But just

> remember that what you put into your diabetic management is what you will

> get out of it. It's no picnic, Dar, and I won't pretend that it is. We

> don't

> always get what we want in life, but there are things we can control, and

> if

> something's controllable, we should do so to the best extent we can.

>

> You WILL win this battle if you put your all into it. From what you learn

> here, if you sincerely apply it in your life and give whatever advice you

> get here, a really good try, you should make it. I've seen enough people

> sit

> back and throw their hands up in the air and just say " it's all too much "

> and they've all paid dearly for it. Please don't be one of those. Rather,

> strive to live and live well.

>

> That's why we're here to help!

>

> Bill Powers

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Bill this is again the first full week or second week.

I have to keep waiting for the times when the appointments are set for me to

go and make more changes.

Until then I am where I am at.

I am told I am on a sugar pill that won't lower my sugars I disagree but

that is what it is and until I can take my own sugar checks I can't make

changes at this time.

So I am trying to be as patient as possible.

It is also hard to know what to eat when no one says what they have eaten in

the last twenty four hours.

I can't follow a lead if I don't know.

I can only eat what I have here and was told it was ok.

Even if it is not, this is what is in the home until I can do differently.

And there are times I have to stick to the same meal each day because of

money going threw out the whole month.

But it will work out I will wait and keep you all posted on what I find out

each week.

You sure didn't say anything wrong but this is where it is at and one step

at a time is all I can do now.

Thanks so much.

--Dar

--Every Saint has a Past,

Every Sinner has a Future

Re: Ah the frustration!

>

> Dar,

>

> I am curious what you mean by a " sugar pill " ? When I think of a sugar pill

> I

> think of a glucose tablet that raises my sugar in a very controlled manner

> when my sugar is low. What I am referring to for diabetes control is

> prescription medication, or insulin, to counteract the elevation of blood

> sugar. You see, if we define a sugar pill as a glucose tablet, that's one

> small part of the treatment, but that doesn't treat diabetes, it just

> treats

> the temporary low blood sugar. You need to have something that helps your

> pancreas to keep your blood sugars even. That's why I take Actos once

> daily.

> Obviously, it's working for me since my hemoglobin A 1 c is down to a

> normal

> range, and I intend to keep taking it because it's working.

>

> You said something the other day that kind of stuck in my mind, and I need

> to impart a response to you. And please take this in a constructive manner

> and not one of putting you down.

>

> Paraphrasing what you said the other day, you're taking baby steps, just

> one

> thng at a time. That's fine, but just remember, you are doing what you can

> to help YOU. Don't do things to impress your friends, your doctor, nurse,

> or

> anybody else, because that doesn't really matter. You cannot fool your

> body,

> and your body will never lie to you. The only one that knows how you truly

> feel is YOU, and the only one that can really take charge of your own

> health

> is YOU. Whatever steps you take, big or small, will benefit you a lot or a

> little. If you only want small improvements in your health, baby steps

> will

> do that. If you want more abundant response, that will depend on how much

> you are willing to do for yourself. You control how fast your health will

> improve, no one else can do that.

>

> That said, this sounds like I'm putting a lot on you, and I'm not trying

> to

> do that. You have a lot ahead of you and you are living in a place that is

> making it even harder to get the kind of care you really need (such as

> difficulty with transportation making it harder to see your doctor, etc.,)

> Hey, I'm on your side, and please don't ever think I'm not. But just

> remember that what you put into your diabetic management is what you will

> get out of it. It's no picnic, Dar, and I won't pretend that it is. We

> don't

> always get what we want in life, but there are things we can control, and

> if

> something's controllable, we should do so to the best extent we can.

>

> You WILL win this battle if you put your all into it. From what you learn

> here, if you sincerely apply it in your life and give whatever advice you

> get here, a really good try, you should make it. I've seen enough people

> sit

> back and throw their hands up in the air and just say " it's all too much "

> and they've all paid dearly for it. Please don't be one of those. Rather,

> strive to live and live well.

>

> That's why we're here to help!

>

> Bill Powers

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Bill this is again the first full week or second week.

I have to keep waiting for the times when the appointments are set for me to

go and make more changes.

Until then I am where I am at.

I am told I am on a sugar pill that won't lower my sugars I disagree but

that is what it is and until I can take my own sugar checks I can't make

changes at this time.

So I am trying to be as patient as possible.

It is also hard to know what to eat when no one says what they have eaten in

the last twenty four hours.

I can't follow a lead if I don't know.

I can only eat what I have here and was told it was ok.

Even if it is not, this is what is in the home until I can do differently.

And there are times I have to stick to the same meal each day because of

money going threw out the whole month.

But it will work out I will wait and keep you all posted on what I find out

each week.

You sure didn't say anything wrong but this is where it is at and one step

at a time is all I can do now.

Thanks so much.

--Dar

--Every Saint has a Past,

Every Sinner has a Future

Re: Ah the frustration!

>

> Dar,

>

> I am curious what you mean by a " sugar pill " ? When I think of a sugar pill

> I

> think of a glucose tablet that raises my sugar in a very controlled manner

> when my sugar is low. What I am referring to for diabetes control is

> prescription medication, or insulin, to counteract the elevation of blood

> sugar. You see, if we define a sugar pill as a glucose tablet, that's one

> small part of the treatment, but that doesn't treat diabetes, it just

> treats

> the temporary low blood sugar. You need to have something that helps your

> pancreas to keep your blood sugars even. That's why I take Actos once

> daily.

> Obviously, it's working for me since my hemoglobin A 1 c is down to a

> normal

> range, and I intend to keep taking it because it's working.

>

> You said something the other day that kind of stuck in my mind, and I need

> to impart a response to you. And please take this in a constructive manner

> and not one of putting you down.

>

> Paraphrasing what you said the other day, you're taking baby steps, just

> one

> thng at a time. That's fine, but just remember, you are doing what you can

> to help YOU. Don't do things to impress your friends, your doctor, nurse,

> or

> anybody else, because that doesn't really matter. You cannot fool your

> body,

> and your body will never lie to you. The only one that knows how you truly

> feel is YOU, and the only one that can really take charge of your own

> health

> is YOU. Whatever steps you take, big or small, will benefit you a lot or a

> little. If you only want small improvements in your health, baby steps

> will

> do that. If you want more abundant response, that will depend on how much

> you are willing to do for yourself. You control how fast your health will

> improve, no one else can do that.

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> That said, this sounds like I'm putting a lot on you, and I'm not trying

> to

> do that. You have a lot ahead of you and you are living in a place that is

> making it even harder to get the kind of care you really need (such as

> difficulty with transportation making it harder to see your doctor, etc.,)

> Hey, I'm on your side, and please don't ever think I'm not. But just

> remember that what you put into your diabetic management is what you will

> get out of it. It's no picnic, Dar, and I won't pretend that it is. We

> don't

> always get what we want in life, but there are things we can control, and

> if

> something's controllable, we should do so to the best extent we can.

>

> You WILL win this battle if you put your all into it. From what you learn

> here, if you sincerely apply it in your life and give whatever advice you

> get here, a really good try, you should make it. I've seen enough people

> sit

> back and throw their hands up in the air and just say " it's all too much "

> and they've all paid dearly for it. Please don't be one of those. Rather,

> strive to live and live well.

>

> That's why we're here to help!

>

> Bill Powers

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