Questions

[Guest guest]

--- Can also use fresh cauliflower, that's what I have been doing.

Also there are a lot of variations that can be used. One used the

cream cheese with cheddar cheese and sour cream and bacon. I added

the bacon to mine, it was good!!! Anything you could or would do

with potatoes seems to work with the cauliflower as well. We have

been going on with this in another group also since I mentioned this

after reading Vicki's post on it. Big hit over there too!!!!

Vicki you hit a goldmine with this one!!!!

Just DON'T use a hand mixer!!!!!!!!! A hand masher will work ok if

you don't have a processor.

Madge

In diabetes_int@y..., whimsy2@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 10/5/01 9:37:59 PM EST, jimmyjan@s... writes:

>

> << Speaking of that, could someone please post the " fauxtatoes "

recipe again?

> The cauliflower with cream cheese. Sounded good but I didn't

print it, and

> any other suggestions about how to handle Thanksgiving. >>

>

> Really nothing to it. I use a bag of frozen cauliflower...for 21

people

> you'd probably need four or five bags...just steam it till the

cauliflower is

> nice and soft...throw it in food processor with some cream cheese -

-I don't

> measure, just toss it in about an ounce at a time, till it's just

the right

> consistency --...season to taste. That's it. Of course, if you're

making it

> for that many people you'll have to do it in batches...unless you

have a

> REALLY big food processor, smile... Vicki

[Guest guest]

--- Can also use fresh cauliflower, that's what I have been doing.

Also there are a lot of variations that can be used. One used the

cream cheese with cheddar cheese and sour cream and bacon. I added

the bacon to mine, it was good!!! Anything you could or would do

with potatoes seems to work with the cauliflower as well. We have

been going on with this in another group also since I mentioned this

after reading Vicki's post on it. Big hit over there too!!!!

Vicki you hit a goldmine with this one!!!!

Just DON'T use a hand mixer!!!!!!!!! A hand masher will work ok if

you don't have a processor.

Madge

In diabetes_int@y..., whimsy2@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 10/5/01 9:37:59 PM EST, jimmyjan@s... writes:

>

> << Speaking of that, could someone please post the " fauxtatoes "

recipe again?

> The cauliflower with cream cheese. Sounded good but I didn't

print it, and

> any other suggestions about how to handle Thanksgiving. >>

>

> Really nothing to it. I use a bag of frozen cauliflower...for 21

people

> you'd probably need four or five bags...just steam it till the

cauliflower is

> nice and soft...throw it in food processor with some cream cheese -

-I don't

> measure, just toss it in about an ounce at a time, till it's just

the right

> consistency --...season to taste. That's it. Of course, if you're

making it

> for that many people you'll have to do it in batches...unless you

have a

> REALLY big food processor, smile... Vicki

[Guest guest]

<< - Can also use fresh cauliflower, that's what I have been doing. >>

Oh, absolutely, you can use fresh cauliflower for the faux mashed potatos...I

just always go for the quickest method. Vicki

[Guest guest]

<< - Can also use fresh cauliflower, that's what I have been doing. >>

Oh, absolutely, you can use fresh cauliflower for the faux mashed potatos...I

just always go for the quickest method. Vicki

[Guest guest]

<< - Can also use fresh cauliflower, that's what I have been doing. >>

Oh, absolutely, you can use fresh cauliflower for the faux mashed potatos...I

just always go for the quickest method. Vicki

[Guest guest]

<< Vicki you hit a goldmine with this one!!!! >>

It wasn't my original idea, alas...just passing it on. Vicki

[Guest guest]

<< Vicki you hit a goldmine with this one!!!! >>

It wasn't my original idea, alas...just passing it on. Vicki

[Guest guest]

From: Jim and Janice

.... My problem is constipation. I am feeling very bloated. I did read

that this is common during the induction period. Does it get better as you

can add a few more carbs in the form of more veggies? And, what can I do

about it now?

--------------------------

I did have some problems with this at the very beginning, but only a little.

I found that eating a lot of leafy green vaggies (spinach, etc., and green

salad) helped a lot. But for fairly rapid relief, Psyllium powder or husks

works great for me. Make sure to get the pure psyllium with no added sugar,

starch, etc. Many of the commercial brands have added sugar and flavor to

make it taste better, but this adds carbs and is not necessary -- it does

not taste bad anyway.

Tom the Actuary

[Guest guest]

From: Jim and Janice

.... My problem is constipation. I am feeling very bloated. I did read

that this is common during the induction period. Does it get better as you

can add a few more carbs in the form of more veggies? And, what can I do

about it now?

--------------------------

I did have some problems with this at the very beginning, but only a little.

I found that eating a lot of leafy green vaggies (spinach, etc., and green

salad) helped a lot. But for fairly rapid relief, Psyllium powder or husks

works great for me. Make sure to get the pure psyllium with no added sugar,

starch, etc. Many of the commercial brands have added sugar and flavor to

make it taste better, but this adds carbs and is not necessary -- it does

not taste bad anyway.

Tom the Actuary

[Guest guest]

From: Jim and Janice

.... My problem is constipation. I am feeling very bloated. I did read

that this is common during the induction period. Does it get better as you

can add a few more carbs in the form of more veggies? And, what can I do

about it now?

--------------------------

I did have some problems with this at the very beginning, but only a little.

I found that eating a lot of leafy green vaggies (spinach, etc., and green

salad) helped a lot. But for fairly rapid relief, Psyllium powder or husks

works great for me. Make sure to get the pure psyllium with no added sugar,

starch, etc. Many of the commercial brands have added sugar and flavor to

make it taste better, but this adds carbs and is not necessary -- it does

not taste bad anyway.

Tom the Actuary

[Guest guest]

Make some of those faux mashed potatoes from cauliflower....geeze, that will

take care of it in a quick hurry! I know this cause I made them last night and

spent the better part of the evening in the bathroom! LOL

Sandi

RE: Questions

From: Jim and Janice

... My problem is constipation. I am feeling very bloated. I did read

that this is common during the induction period. Does it get better as you

can add a few more carbs in the form of more veggies? And, what can I do

about it now?

--------------------------

[Guest guest]

Make some of those faux mashed potatoes from cauliflower....geeze, that will

take care of it in a quick hurry! I know this cause I made them last night and

spent the better part of the evening in the bathroom! LOL

Sandi

RE: Questions

From: Jim and Janice

... My problem is constipation. I am feeling very bloated. I did read

that this is common during the induction period. Does it get better as you

can add a few more carbs in the form of more veggies? And, what can I do

about it now?

--------------------------

[Guest guest]

Make some of those faux mashed potatoes from cauliflower....geeze, that will

take care of it in a quick hurry! I know this cause I made them last night and

spent the better part of the evening in the bathroom! LOL

Sandi

RE: Questions

From: Jim and Janice

... My problem is constipation. I am feeling very bloated. I did read

that this is common during the induction period. Does it get better as you

can add a few more carbs in the form of more veggies? And, what can I do

about it now?

--------------------------

[Guest guest]

Try Water, huge amounts at first, 2 quarts in am

followed by 2 to 4 rest of the day, it worked wonders

for my constipation which I had for years...

--- Sandi Marr wrote:

> Make some of those faux mashed potatoes from

> cauliflower....geeze, that will take care of it in a

> quick hurry! I know this cause I made them last

> night and spent the better part of the evening in

> the bathroom! LOL

>

> Sandi

> RE: Questions

>

>

> From: Jim and Janice

>

>

> ... My problem is constipation. I am feeling

> very bloated. I did read

> that this is common during the induction period.

> Does it get better as you

> can add a few more carbs in the form of more

> veggies? And, what can I do

> about it now?

> --------------------------

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Try Water, huge amounts at first, 2 quarts in am

followed by 2 to 4 rest of the day, it worked wonders

for my constipation which I had for years...

--- Sandi Marr wrote:

> Make some of those faux mashed potatoes from

> cauliflower....geeze, that will take care of it in a

> quick hurry! I know this cause I made them last

> night and spent the better part of the evening in

> the bathroom! LOL

>

> Sandi

> RE: Questions

>

>

> From: Jim and Janice

>

>

> ... My problem is constipation. I am feeling

> very bloated. I did read

> that this is common during the induction period.

> Does it get better as you

> can add a few more carbs in the form of more

> veggies? And, what can I do

> about it now?

> --------------------------

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Judith wrote:

> Hi guys,

> 1. How can we know that the pancreas still functioning or not?

> 2. any comment please for this statement: " A person with diabetes can

> eat all foods including foods that contain sugar as one of the

> ingredients "

>

Judith,

Number 2 first. The answer is yes you can eat " sugar " alone or in

another product. The table sugar we use is basically concentrated

carbohydrates. If you are " Low-Carbing " and you want to eat a " Low-Carb "

amount of sugar, you could. The question is, why would you want to. You

would need to go for the rest of the day without eating any other carbs.

Things get real relative here... why have spoonfuls of sugar, when you

can have a baked potato instead? Why have a baked potato when you can

have some nice home baked white bread instead? Why have the bread when

you can have steamed veggies with cheese sauce? And so on, and so on. It

becomes an issue of " how do I want to spend my carb allotment for

today? " Any single day of " splurging and eating nutritionally deficient

foods, or " empty food " is not going to hurt anyone. The problem is when

we consistently make poor food choices and begin to suffer nutritionally

as a result. The best diet for anyone is the one which is consistently

nutritious and one which does not cause a persons BG to go through the

roof. This is true for Low-Carb, Moderate-Carb, High-Carb, No-Carb. The

trick is balancing nutrition and BG control. High carb intake makes that

difficult to achieve. Eating sugary products, wastes nutritional " slots "

in your eating day. But, if you're at a birthday party and they insist

that you have that piece of cake, and you really want it, you can have

it - if you have the self-control to insure that that piece of cake fits

within the nutritional boundaries you have set for yourself. Is it

advisable? Not on a regular basis. (IMHO)

Question 1. The only way that I know of to see if your pancreas is still

working is to have a C-Peptide test. The " C-Peptide " is the molecule in

Insulin that holds the two protein " chains " together. There is an " a "

chain and a " b " chain held together by a " c-peptide " molecule. Injected

insulin does not have this c-peptide molecule, only naturally pancreas

produced, or " endogenous " insulin does. As the normal pancreas produced

insulin is " used " in the body, the c-peptide molecule remains in a

measurable amount. Measuring the amount of C-Peptide in the blood can

help determine if high BG is due to lack of insulin production by the

pancreas, or if it is due to insulin resistance. Extremely low or no

levels of C-Peptide indicate T1 Diabetes. Low, normal or high levels

indicate T2 Diabetes. If the levels are low, there must be a threshold

at which a diagnosis of T1 is made rather than T2. I'm not sure what

that level would be. I believe that there are also tests that can be

performed which show a type of anti-body to the pancreatic cells. The

presence of these anti-bodies along with low C-peptides levels would

also suggest T1.

I plan to ask my Doctor to schedule me for a C-Peptide test the next

time I'm in. I will not be taking " no " for an answer!

Rick

[Guest guest]

Judith wrote:

> Hi guys,

> 1. How can we know that the pancreas still functioning or not?

> 2. any comment please for this statement: " A person with diabetes can

> eat all foods including foods that contain sugar as one of the

> ingredients "

>

Judith,

Number 2 first. The answer is yes you can eat " sugar " alone or in

another product. The table sugar we use is basically concentrated

carbohydrates. If you are " Low-Carbing " and you want to eat a " Low-Carb "

amount of sugar, you could. The question is, why would you want to. You

would need to go for the rest of the day without eating any other carbs.

Things get real relative here... why have spoonfuls of sugar, when you

can have a baked potato instead? Why have a baked potato when you can

have some nice home baked white bread instead? Why have the bread when

you can have steamed veggies with cheese sauce? And so on, and so on. It

becomes an issue of " how do I want to spend my carb allotment for

today? " Any single day of " splurging and eating nutritionally deficient

foods, or " empty food " is not going to hurt anyone. The problem is when

we consistently make poor food choices and begin to suffer nutritionally

as a result. The best diet for anyone is the one which is consistently

nutritious and one which does not cause a persons BG to go through the

roof. This is true for Low-Carb, Moderate-Carb, High-Carb, No-Carb. The

trick is balancing nutrition and BG control. High carb intake makes that

difficult to achieve. Eating sugary products, wastes nutritional " slots "

in your eating day. But, if you're at a birthday party and they insist

that you have that piece of cake, and you really want it, you can have

it - if you have the self-control to insure that that piece of cake fits

within the nutritional boundaries you have set for yourself. Is it

advisable? Not on a regular basis. (IMHO)

Question 1. The only way that I know of to see if your pancreas is still

working is to have a C-Peptide test. The " C-Peptide " is the molecule in

Insulin that holds the two protein " chains " together. There is an " a "

chain and a " b " chain held together by a " c-peptide " molecule. Injected

insulin does not have this c-peptide molecule, only naturally pancreas

produced, or " endogenous " insulin does. As the normal pancreas produced

insulin is " used " in the body, the c-peptide molecule remains in a

measurable amount. Measuring the amount of C-Peptide in the blood can

help determine if high BG is due to lack of insulin production by the

pancreas, or if it is due to insulin resistance. Extremely low or no

levels of C-Peptide indicate T1 Diabetes. Low, normal or high levels

indicate T2 Diabetes. If the levels are low, there must be a threshold

at which a diagnosis of T1 is made rather than T2. I'm not sure what

that level would be. I believe that there are also tests that can be

performed which show a type of anti-body to the pancreatic cells. The

presence of these anti-bodies along with low C-peptides levels would

also suggest T1.

I plan to ask my Doctor to schedule me for a C-Peptide test the next

time I'm in. I will not be taking " no " for an answer!

Rick

[Guest guest]

Judith wrote:

> Hi guys,

> 1. How can we know that the pancreas still functioning or not?

> 2. any comment please for this statement: " A person with diabetes can

> eat all foods including foods that contain sugar as one of the

> ingredients "

>

Judith,

Number 2 first. The answer is yes you can eat " sugar " alone or in

another product. The table sugar we use is basically concentrated

carbohydrates. If you are " Low-Carbing " and you want to eat a " Low-Carb "

amount of sugar, you could. The question is, why would you want to. You

would need to go for the rest of the day without eating any other carbs.

Things get real relative here... why have spoonfuls of sugar, when you

can have a baked potato instead? Why have a baked potato when you can

have some nice home baked white bread instead? Why have the bread when

you can have steamed veggies with cheese sauce? And so on, and so on. It

becomes an issue of " how do I want to spend my carb allotment for

today? " Any single day of " splurging and eating nutritionally deficient

foods, or " empty food " is not going to hurt anyone. The problem is when

we consistently make poor food choices and begin to suffer nutritionally

as a result. The best diet for anyone is the one which is consistently

nutritious and one which does not cause a persons BG to go through the

roof. This is true for Low-Carb, Moderate-Carb, High-Carb, No-Carb. The

trick is balancing nutrition and BG control. High carb intake makes that

difficult to achieve. Eating sugary products, wastes nutritional " slots "

in your eating day. But, if you're at a birthday party and they insist

that you have that piece of cake, and you really want it, you can have

it - if you have the self-control to insure that that piece of cake fits

within the nutritional boundaries you have set for yourself. Is it

advisable? Not on a regular basis. (IMHO)

Question 1. The only way that I know of to see if your pancreas is still

working is to have a C-Peptide test. The " C-Peptide " is the molecule in

Insulin that holds the two protein " chains " together. There is an " a "

chain and a " b " chain held together by a " c-peptide " molecule. Injected

insulin does not have this c-peptide molecule, only naturally pancreas

produced, or " endogenous " insulin does. As the normal pancreas produced

insulin is " used " in the body, the c-peptide molecule remains in a

measurable amount. Measuring the amount of C-Peptide in the blood can

help determine if high BG is due to lack of insulin production by the

pancreas, or if it is due to insulin resistance. Extremely low or no

levels of C-Peptide indicate T1 Diabetes. Low, normal or high levels

indicate T2 Diabetes. If the levels are low, there must be a threshold

at which a diagnosis of T1 is made rather than T2. I'm not sure what

that level would be. I believe that there are also tests that can be

performed which show a type of anti-body to the pancreatic cells. The

presence of these anti-bodies along with low C-peptides levels would

also suggest T1.

I plan to ask my Doctor to schedule me for a C-Peptide test the next

time I'm in. I will not be taking " no " for an answer!

Rick

[Guest guest]

> The question is, why would you want to.

Actually I wouldn't. I found Dare Biscuit in store, and have

recommend from Canada Diabetes Association. I asked them about that

and number 2 was the answer.

I realize sometimes I'm so tempted to eat what I want (whole wheat

bread or my father's noodles, both of them was my favorites before I

got this disease). But....I don't wanna go back to the hospital

again, for the rest of my life

But thank you, Rick. it's a big support

> Question 1. The only way that I know of to see if your pancreas is

>still working is to have a C-Peptide test.

This is what I need to confirm my endo, why he insisted me use Amaryl

rather than Metformin.

This stuff really confused me. according my C-peptide test, there's

nothing wrong with my body. but I can push away insulin easily

(especially the first 2-3 months after diagnosed)

you know what, my endo himself, really really " dizzi " with my

condition. I'm using too little insulin (compare to another type 1),

but I also depend on it.

> I plan to ask my Doctor to schedule me for a C-Peptide test the next

> time I'm in. I will not be taking " no " for an answer!

Go for it, Rick . This is your first test?

Judith

>

>

[Guest guest]

Judith wrote:

>

>

> Go for it, Rick . This is your first test?

>

>

Yes it is. My numbers go so out of whack earlier this year that I was

put on insulin. I want to try to get a proper understanding of what I'm

dealing with. I want to know if my pancreas is pooping out or what. My

weight has not changed at all over the last year and a half. Plus the

Doc said when I started taking insulin I would put on 10-20 pounds

pretty quickly. That hasn't happened either. I have just been hanging

around 275 - 280 for about a year and a half. My eventual goal is to get

that down to about 200 - 210.

I know I'm DIZZY trying to make sense of it all!

Rick

[Guest guest]

Judith wrote:

>

>

> Go for it, Rick . This is your first test?

>

>

Yes it is. My numbers go so out of whack earlier this year that I was

put on insulin. I want to try to get a proper understanding of what I'm

dealing with. I want to know if my pancreas is pooping out or what. My

weight has not changed at all over the last year and a half. Plus the

Doc said when I started taking insulin I would put on 10-20 pounds

pretty quickly. That hasn't happened either. I have just been hanging

around 275 - 280 for about a year and a half. My eventual goal is to get

that down to about 200 - 210.

I know I'm DIZZY trying to make sense of it all!

Rick

[Guest guest]

Judith wrote:

>

>

> Go for it, Rick . This is your first test?

>

>

Yes it is. My numbers go so out of whack earlier this year that I was

put on insulin. I want to try to get a proper understanding of what I'm

dealing with. I want to know if my pancreas is pooping out or what. My

weight has not changed at all over the last year and a half. Plus the

Doc said when I started taking insulin I would put on 10-20 pounds

pretty quickly. That hasn't happened either. I have just been hanging

around 275 - 280 for about a year and a half. My eventual goal is to get

that down to about 200 - 210.

I know I'm DIZZY trying to make sense of it all!

Rick

[Guest guest]

Vicki, that's a very enthusiastic answer, please take it as a

compliment .

Like I told Rick that I haven't any plan to take sugar, at

all!. That statement came from someone in Canada diabetes

association, as an answer to my question was Dare cookies is safe,

because on the box this cookies have somekind of recomendation from

them

and I did bookmark www.diabetes-normalsugars.com (Dr. Bernstein web)

thank you, anyway. I'll take it as a big care

Judith

[Guest guest]

Vicki, that's a very enthusiastic answer, please take it as a

compliment .

Like I told Rick that I haven't any plan to take sugar, at

all!. That statement came from someone in Canada diabetes

association, as an answer to my question was Dare cookies is safe,

because on the box this cookies have somekind of recomendation from

them

and I did bookmark www.diabetes-normalsugars.com (Dr. Bernstein web)

thank you, anyway. I'll take it as a big care

Judith

[Guest guest]

Vicki, that's a very enthusiastic answer, please take it as a

compliment .

Like I told Rick that I haven't any plan to take sugar, at

all!. That statement came from someone in Canada diabetes

association, as an answer to my question was Dare cookies is safe,

because on the box this cookies have somekind of recomendation from

them

and I did bookmark www.diabetes-normalsugars.com (Dr. Bernstein web)

thank you, anyway. I'll take it as a big care

Judith