Questions

[Guest guest]

My son does not have liver dysfunction, but he does have loose, yellow stools.

MichSull@... wrote:

> From: MichSull@...

>

> Hello-

>

> For any of you with children with liver dysfunction:

>

> 1. Have any of your children ever spit up blood (no vomit-just blood)?

>

> 2. Are your chlidren's bowel movements yellow?

>

> 3. Are your children's abdomens bloated?

>

> For those who give their children vitamin cocktails via mouth:

>

> How do you get them to take the vitamin cocktails?

> I have tried ice cream, applesauce, yogurt, pineapple, cranberry sauce, and

> fluids?

> Any ideas how to administer the cocktail?

>

> Thanks to all in advance.

>

> Michele

>

> > Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those affected

by mitochondrial disease.

[Guest guest]

My son does not have liver dysfunction, but he does have loose, yellow stools.

MichSull@... wrote:

> From: MichSull@...

>

> Hello-

>

> For any of you with children with liver dysfunction:

>

> 1. Have any of your children ever spit up blood (no vomit-just blood)?

>

> 2. Are your chlidren's bowel movements yellow?

>

> 3. Are your children's abdomens bloated?

>

> For those who give their children vitamin cocktails via mouth:

>

> How do you get them to take the vitamin cocktails?

> I have tried ice cream, applesauce, yogurt, pineapple, cranberry sauce, and

> fluids?

> Any ideas how to administer the cocktail?

>

> Thanks to all in advance.

>

> Michele

>

> > Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those affected

by mitochondrial disease.

[Guest guest]

My son does not have liver dysfunction, but he does have loose, yellow stools.

MichSull@... wrote:

> From: MichSull@...

>

> Hello-

>

> For any of you with children with liver dysfunction:

>

> 1. Have any of your children ever spit up blood (no vomit-just blood)?

>

> 2. Are your chlidren's bowel movements yellow?

>

> 3. Are your children's abdomens bloated?

>

> For those who give their children vitamin cocktails via mouth:

>

> How do you get them to take the vitamin cocktails?

> I have tried ice cream, applesauce, yogurt, pineapple, cranberry sauce, and

> fluids?

> Any ideas how to administer the cocktail?

>

> Thanks to all in advance.

>

> Michele

>

> > Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those affected

by mitochondrial disease.

[Guest guest]

>For any of you with children with liver dysfunction:

>

>1. Have any of your children ever spit up blood (no vomit-just blood)?

>2. Are your chlidren's bowel movements yellow?

>3. Are your children's abdomens bloated?

Hi. My 3 yr old son has chronic hepatitis due to his mito disease. He has

never spat up blood and his bowel movements are not yellow, nor is his

abdomen bloated. Almost 2 yrs ago he was very sick from the

rotavirus(before he was diagnosed with mito) and blood tests as an inpatient

revealed high ammonia and liver enzymes. These continue to be moderately

high to this day. We just saw our mito specialist last week, Dr Kelley, and

he said that although the mitochondria in 's liver are clearly abnormal

(he had a liver biopsy in April) they are still getting the job done.

>For those who give their children vitamin cocktails via mouth:

>How do you get them to take the vitamin cocktails?

>I have tried ice cream, applesauce, yogurt, pineapple, cranberry sauce, and

>fluids?

>Any ideas how to administer the cocktail?

I tried for over a year to give his various supplements and meds by

mouth and it was very difficult and frustrating. He always knew when they

were hidden in his food. Juice worked for a while and then he caught on.

We had a g-tube placed in October for supplemental nutrition and for the

administration of meds. We agonized over the decision but are now so glad

we did it and wish we had done it sooner. He is, finally, getting all of

his supplements and we hope it makes a difference, especially in regards to

his liver. Sorry I am no help here but I can relate to your current

situation. I often wondered how other people did it when we had such a hard

time with it. Good luck!

Connie

[Guest guest]

>For any of you with children with liver dysfunction:

>

>1. Have any of your children ever spit up blood (no vomit-just blood)?

>2. Are your chlidren's bowel movements yellow?

>3. Are your children's abdomens bloated?

Hi. My 3 yr old son has chronic hepatitis due to his mito disease. He has

never spat up blood and his bowel movements are not yellow, nor is his

abdomen bloated. Almost 2 yrs ago he was very sick from the

rotavirus(before he was diagnosed with mito) and blood tests as an inpatient

revealed high ammonia and liver enzymes. These continue to be moderately

high to this day. We just saw our mito specialist last week, Dr Kelley, and

he said that although the mitochondria in 's liver are clearly abnormal

(he had a liver biopsy in April) they are still getting the job done.

>For those who give their children vitamin cocktails via mouth:

>How do you get them to take the vitamin cocktails?

>I have tried ice cream, applesauce, yogurt, pineapple, cranberry sauce, and

>fluids?

>Any ideas how to administer the cocktail?

I tried for over a year to give his various supplements and meds by

mouth and it was very difficult and frustrating. He always knew when they

were hidden in his food. Juice worked for a while and then he caught on.

We had a g-tube placed in October for supplemental nutrition and for the

administration of meds. We agonized over the decision but are now so glad

we did it and wish we had done it sooner. He is, finally, getting all of

his supplements and we hope it makes a difference, especially in regards to

his liver. Sorry I am no help here but I can relate to your current

situation. I often wondered how other people did it when we had such a hard

time with it. Good luck!

Connie

[Guest guest]

>For any of you with children with liver dysfunction:

>

>1. Have any of your children ever spit up blood (no vomit-just blood)?

>2. Are your chlidren's bowel movements yellow?

>3. Are your children's abdomens bloated?

Hi. My 3 yr old son has chronic hepatitis due to his mito disease. He has

never spat up blood and his bowel movements are not yellow, nor is his

abdomen bloated. Almost 2 yrs ago he was very sick from the

rotavirus(before he was diagnosed with mito) and blood tests as an inpatient

revealed high ammonia and liver enzymes. These continue to be moderately

high to this day. We just saw our mito specialist last week, Dr Kelley, and

he said that although the mitochondria in 's liver are clearly abnormal

(he had a liver biopsy in April) they are still getting the job done.

>For those who give their children vitamin cocktails via mouth:

>How do you get them to take the vitamin cocktails?

>I have tried ice cream, applesauce, yogurt, pineapple, cranberry sauce, and

>fluids?

>Any ideas how to administer the cocktail?

I tried for over a year to give his various supplements and meds by

mouth and it was very difficult and frustrating. He always knew when they

were hidden in his food. Juice worked for a while and then he caught on.

We had a g-tube placed in October for supplemental nutrition and for the

administration of meds. We agonized over the decision but are now so glad

we did it and wish we had done it sooner. He is, finally, getting all of

his supplements and we hope it makes a difference, especially in regards to

his liver. Sorry I am no help here but I can relate to your current

situation. I often wondered how other people did it when we had such a hard

time with it. Good luck!

Connie

[Guest guest]

SAM

COMPLAIN ALL YOU WANT TO!!

THAT IS WHY WE ARE ALL HERE

FOR EACH OTHER!!!

NO APOLOGIES NECESSARY WHEN

IT COMES TO THIS FAMILY!!!!!!!!!

FIRST OF ALL-WHY ALL THESE

INSURANCE COMPANY CHANGES?

WHO TREATS YOU NOW?

YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE LIST

OF THE DOCS ON YOUR NEW

INSURANCE POLICY AND CHOSE

A FEW AND CALL THEM FIRST

AND ASK IF THE DOCTOR KNOWS

ABOUT AND TREATS FMS AND CFS!!!

THAT IS WHAT I DID - WHEN OUR

DOC DISMISSED US FOR ME OPENING UP MY BIG NEW YORK

MOUTH

IN FACT SEEING NEW INTERNIST

TODAY AT 2 PM---HIS NURSES TOLD

ME ON PHONE WHEN I ASKED

YES HE KNOWS ABOUT CFS AND FMS

AND TREATS IT--WE SHALL SEE

WILL LET YOU AND ALL KNOW WHEN

I GET BACK

I THINK THAT IS THE BEST THING TO

START WITH--GO THROUGH THE

LISTS OF PARTICIPATING DOCTORS

AND CALL THEM

I ALSO SEE A PAIN MGT DOC FOR

PAIN MEDS!! AS ORIGINAL DOC WOULD NOT GIVE ME ANYTHING

FOR THE PAIN

GOOD LUCK AND LET US KNOW

YES THE SWELLING CAN BE DUE

TO ANY NEW MEDS YOUR ON--

LOOK UP THE MED NAME AND SEE

ADVERSE REACTIONS

IF SWELLING IS A REACTION TO ANY

OF THOSE MEDS (COULD BE ONE

OR ALL MEDS) THEN GET IN TOUCH

WITH YOUR PRESENT DOCTOR AND

GO INTO SEE HIM/HER ASAP!!

LOVE BETSY IN FLORIDA

HI LADIES,

I HAVE A BIT OF A PROBLEM, WE HAD TO CHANGE INSURANCE IN JANUARY AND

THEN AGAIN IN JUNE, AND NOW WE WILL HAVE TO CHANGE AGAIN IN JANUARY. MY

PROBLEM IS MY DOCTOR HAS DECIDED TO WORK FOR ELY LILY (SP) INSTEAD OF

PRIVATE PRACTICE, NOW I DO NOT KNOW WHO TO GO TO OR HOW TO FIND A DOCTOR

WHO WILL/CAN HELP.

ALSO, RIGHT NOW I AM HAVING EXTREME SWELLING, MY HANDS AND FEET HURT AND

FEEL LIKE THEY MIGHT EXPLODE SOME DAYS. I AM NOT SURE IF THIS IS A

REACTION TO MY BP MED, ANOTHER MED I AM ON OR JUST THE WEATHER CHANGE.

WHAT CAN I DO TO LESSEN THE SWELLING?

SINCE OUR VACATION I DO NOT KNOW WHICH IS WORSE, STANDING OR SITTING,

BOTH CAUSE GREAT PAIN AND I AM HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING MY GIRLS TO

UNDERSTAND WHY I CANNOT GO PLACES AND DO THINGS, ESPECIALLY MY 13 Y/O.

I AM SORRY TO BE COMPLAINING, BUT IT IS NICE TO HAVE SOMEONE TO SHARE MY

TROUBLES WITH WHO UNDERSTAND.

THANK YOU

GENTLEHUGS AND PRAYERS

SAM--CENTRAL INDIANA

[Guest guest]

SAM

COMPLAIN ALL YOU WANT TO!!

THAT IS WHY WE ARE ALL HERE

FOR EACH OTHER!!!

NO APOLOGIES NECESSARY WHEN

IT COMES TO THIS FAMILY!!!!!!!!!

FIRST OF ALL-WHY ALL THESE

INSURANCE COMPANY CHANGES?

WHO TREATS YOU NOW?

YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE LIST

OF THE DOCS ON YOUR NEW

INSURANCE POLICY AND CHOSE

A FEW AND CALL THEM FIRST

AND ASK IF THE DOCTOR KNOWS

ABOUT AND TREATS FMS AND CFS!!!

THAT IS WHAT I DID - WHEN OUR

DOC DISMISSED US FOR ME OPENING UP MY BIG NEW YORK

MOUTH

IN FACT SEEING NEW INTERNIST

TODAY AT 2 PM---HIS NURSES TOLD

ME ON PHONE WHEN I ASKED

YES HE KNOWS ABOUT CFS AND FMS

AND TREATS IT--WE SHALL SEE

WILL LET YOU AND ALL KNOW WHEN

I GET BACK

I THINK THAT IS THE BEST THING TO

START WITH--GO THROUGH THE

LISTS OF PARTICIPATING DOCTORS

AND CALL THEM

I ALSO SEE A PAIN MGT DOC FOR

PAIN MEDS!! AS ORIGINAL DOC WOULD NOT GIVE ME ANYTHING

FOR THE PAIN

GOOD LUCK AND LET US KNOW

YES THE SWELLING CAN BE DUE

TO ANY NEW MEDS YOUR ON--

LOOK UP THE MED NAME AND SEE

ADVERSE REACTIONS

IF SWELLING IS A REACTION TO ANY

OF THOSE MEDS (COULD BE ONE

OR ALL MEDS) THEN GET IN TOUCH

WITH YOUR PRESENT DOCTOR AND

GO INTO SEE HIM/HER ASAP!!

LOVE BETSY IN FLORIDA

HI LADIES,

I HAVE A BIT OF A PROBLEM, WE HAD TO CHANGE INSURANCE IN JANUARY AND

THEN AGAIN IN JUNE, AND NOW WE WILL HAVE TO CHANGE AGAIN IN JANUARY. MY

PROBLEM IS MY DOCTOR HAS DECIDED TO WORK FOR ELY LILY (SP) INSTEAD OF

PRIVATE PRACTICE, NOW I DO NOT KNOW WHO TO GO TO OR HOW TO FIND A DOCTOR

WHO WILL/CAN HELP.

ALSO, RIGHT NOW I AM HAVING EXTREME SWELLING, MY HANDS AND FEET HURT AND

FEEL LIKE THEY MIGHT EXPLODE SOME DAYS. I AM NOT SURE IF THIS IS A

REACTION TO MY BP MED, ANOTHER MED I AM ON OR JUST THE WEATHER CHANGE.

WHAT CAN I DO TO LESSEN THE SWELLING?

SINCE OUR VACATION I DO NOT KNOW WHICH IS WORSE, STANDING OR SITTING,

BOTH CAUSE GREAT PAIN AND I AM HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING MY GIRLS TO

UNDERSTAND WHY I CANNOT GO PLACES AND DO THINGS, ESPECIALLY MY 13 Y/O.

I AM SORRY TO BE COMPLAINING, BUT IT IS NICE TO HAVE SOMEONE TO SHARE MY

TROUBLES WITH WHO UNDERSTAND.

THANK YOU

GENTLEHUGS AND PRAYERS

SAM--CENTRAL INDIANA

[Guest guest]

BETSY !!!! YOU ARE SOOOOO RIGHT, HON ! GOOD ADVICE !!! 8^)

SAM

COMPLAIN ALL YOU WANT TO!!

THAT IS WHY WE ARE ALL HERE

FOR EACH OTHER!!!

NO APOLOGIES NECESSARY WHEN

IT COMES TO THIS FAMILY!!!!!!!!!

FIRST OF ALL-WHY ALL THESE

INSURANCE COMPANY CHANGES?

WHO TREATS YOU NOW?

YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE LIST

OF THE DOCS ON YOUR NEW

INSURANCE POLICY AND CHOSE

A FEW AND CALL THEM FIRST

AND ASK IF THE DOCTOR KNOWS

ABOUT AND TREATS FMS AND CFS!!!

THAT IS WHAT I DID - WHEN OUR

DOC DISMISSED US FOR ME OPENING UP MY BIG NEW YORK

MOUTH

IN FACT SEEING NEW INTERNIST

TODAY AT 2 PM---HIS NURSES TOLD

ME ON PHONE WHEN I ASKED

YES HE KNOWS ABOUT CFS AND FMS

AND TREATS IT--WE SHALL SEE

WILL LET YOU AND ALL KNOW WHEN

I GET BACK

I THINK THAT IS THE BEST THING TO

START WITH--GO THROUGH THE

LISTS OF PARTICIPATING DOCTORS

AND CALL THEM

I ALSO SEE A PAIN MGT DOC FOR

PAIN MEDS!! AS ORIGINAL DOC WOULD NOT GIVE ME ANYTHING

FOR THE PAIN

GOOD LUCK AND LET US KNOW

YES THE SWELLING CAN BE DUE

TO ANY NEW MEDS YOUR ON--

LOOK UP THE MED NAME AND SEE

ADVERSE REACTIONS

IF SWELLING IS A REACTION TO ANY

OF THOSE MEDS (COULD BE ONE

OR ALL MEDS) THEN GET IN TOUCH

WITH YOUR PRESENT DOCTOR AND

GO INTO SEE HIM/HER ASAP!!

LOVE BETSY IN FLORIDA

[Guest guest]

Hello jimmyjan@... (Jim and Janice),

In reference to your comment:

è My problem is constipation. I am feeling very bloated.

è I did read that this is common during the induction

è period. Does it get better as you can add a few more

è carbs in the form of more veggies? And, what can I do

è about it now? Just get a laxative from the drug store?

Flax seed, seems to work quite well i've heard...

I don't have that problem.

Fibercon tablets i've heard also work...

you don't want a laxative, you want a fiber or bulking agent.

========Original Message========

Subj: Questions

Date: 10/5/01 10:38:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From: jimmyjan@... (Jim and Janice)

Reply-to: diabetes_int

To: diabetes_int

Hello everyone. My mailbox wasjust too full to catch up on all the posts, so

I had to delete and start fresh. Hope I didn't miss too much. A couple

things...I did manage to get Dr. Bernstein's book from the library...very

informative. I also picked up Dr. Atkin's book, doing a little comparison

since several of you here seem to be using his diet as well. I started on

Tuesday and have been doing well...and it's true...I really haven't been

hungry between meals like I was when I did the high carb, low fat thing. We

even took the kids out for supper tonight and it was ok. I got steak and

mushrooms and ordered a small caesar side salad instead of the potatoes. My

sugar before supper was 6.8 and one hour after was only 6.9.

I still have more to read, and a lot to learn. My problem is constipation.

I am feeling very bloated. I did read that this is common during the

induction period. Does it get better as you can add a few more carbs in the

form of more veggies? And, what can I do about it now? Just get a laxative

from the drug store? What about nutritional supplements? I may have asked

this before. I can't afford to buy a whole lot of them, so what is most

important. I am thinking a good multi-vitamin and calcium. I think

Bernstein mentioned something about vitamin E? Have to get back to the

books. I've been real busy this week getting ready for 21 people coming over

for Thanksgiving dinner this weekend (I am in Canada). Speaking of that,

could someone please post the " fauxtatoes " recipe again? The cauliflower

with cream cheese. Sounded good but I didn't print it, and any other

suggestions about how to handle Thanksgiving.

Thanks for all your help. This is a great list.

HUGS, Janice

[Guest guest]

Hello jimmyjan@... (Jim and Janice),

In reference to your comment:

è My problem is constipation. I am feeling very bloated.

è I did read that this is common during the induction

è period. Does it get better as you can add a few more

è carbs in the form of more veggies? And, what can I do

è about it now? Just get a laxative from the drug store?

Flax seed, seems to work quite well i've heard...

I don't have that problem.

Fibercon tablets i've heard also work...

you don't want a laxative, you want a fiber or bulking agent.

========Original Message========

Subj: Questions

Date: 10/5/01 10:38:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From: jimmyjan@... (Jim and Janice)

Reply-to: diabetes_int

To: diabetes_int

Hello everyone. My mailbox wasjust too full to catch up on all the posts, so

I had to delete and start fresh. Hope I didn't miss too much. A couple

things...I did manage to get Dr. Bernstein's book from the library...very

informative. I also picked up Dr. Atkin's book, doing a little comparison

since several of you here seem to be using his diet as well. I started on

Tuesday and have been doing well...and it's true...I really haven't been

hungry between meals like I was when I did the high carb, low fat thing. We

even took the kids out for supper tonight and it was ok. I got steak and

mushrooms and ordered a small caesar side salad instead of the potatoes. My

sugar before supper was 6.8 and one hour after was only 6.9.

I still have more to read, and a lot to learn. My problem is constipation.

I am feeling very bloated. I did read that this is common during the

induction period. Does it get better as you can add a few more carbs in the

form of more veggies? And, what can I do about it now? Just get a laxative

from the drug store? What about nutritional supplements? I may have asked

this before. I can't afford to buy a whole lot of them, so what is most

important. I am thinking a good multi-vitamin and calcium. I think

Bernstein mentioned something about vitamin E? Have to get back to the

books. I've been real busy this week getting ready for 21 people coming over

for Thanksgiving dinner this weekend (I am in Canada). Speaking of that,

could someone please post the " fauxtatoes " recipe again? The cauliflower

with cream cheese. Sounded good but I didn't print it, and any other

suggestions about how to handle Thanksgiving.

Thanks for all your help. This is a great list.

HUGS, Janice

[Guest guest]

Hello jimmyjan@... (Jim and Janice),

In reference to your comment:

è My problem is constipation. I am feeling very bloated.

è I did read that this is common during the induction

è period. Does it get better as you can add a few more

è carbs in the form of more veggies? And, what can I do

è about it now? Just get a laxative from the drug store?

Flax seed, seems to work quite well i've heard...

I don't have that problem.

Fibercon tablets i've heard also work...

you don't want a laxative, you want a fiber or bulking agent.

========Original Message========

Subj: Questions

Date: 10/5/01 10:38:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From: jimmyjan@... (Jim and Janice)

Reply-to: diabetes_int

To: diabetes_int

Hello everyone. My mailbox wasjust too full to catch up on all the posts, so

I had to delete and start fresh. Hope I didn't miss too much. A couple

things...I did manage to get Dr. Bernstein's book from the library...very

informative. I also picked up Dr. Atkin's book, doing a little comparison

since several of you here seem to be using his diet as well. I started on

Tuesday and have been doing well...and it's true...I really haven't been

hungry between meals like I was when I did the high carb, low fat thing. We

even took the kids out for supper tonight and it was ok. I got steak and

mushrooms and ordered a small caesar side salad instead of the potatoes. My

sugar before supper was 6.8 and one hour after was only 6.9.

I still have more to read, and a lot to learn. My problem is constipation.

I am feeling very bloated. I did read that this is common during the

induction period. Does it get better as you can add a few more carbs in the

form of more veggies? And, what can I do about it now? Just get a laxative

from the drug store? What about nutritional supplements? I may have asked

this before. I can't afford to buy a whole lot of them, so what is most

important. I am thinking a good multi-vitamin and calcium. I think

Bernstein mentioned something about vitamin E? Have to get back to the

books. I've been real busy this week getting ready for 21 people coming over

for Thanksgiving dinner this weekend (I am in Canada). Speaking of that,

could someone please post the " fauxtatoes " recipe again? The cauliflower

with cream cheese. Sounded good but I didn't print it, and any other

suggestions about how to handle Thanksgiving.

Thanks for all your help. This is a great list.

HUGS, Janice

[Guest guest]

<< Speaking of that, could someone please post the " fauxtatoes " recipe again?

The cauliflower with cream cheese. Sounded good but I didn't print it, and

any other suggestions about how to handle Thanksgiving. >>

Really nothing to it. I use a bag of frozen cauliflower...for 21 people

you'd probably need four or five bags...just steam it till the cauliflower is

nice and soft...throw it in food processor with some cream cheese --I don't

measure, just toss it in about an ounce at a time, till it's just the right

consistency --...season to taste. That's it. Of course, if you're making it

for that many people you'll have to do it in batches...unless you have a

REALLY big food processor, smile... Vicki

[Guest guest]

<< Speaking of that, could someone please post the " fauxtatoes " recipe again?

The cauliflower with cream cheese. Sounded good but I didn't print it, and

any other suggestions about how to handle Thanksgiving. >>

Really nothing to it. I use a bag of frozen cauliflower...for 21 people

you'd probably need four or five bags...just steam it till the cauliflower is

nice and soft...throw it in food processor with some cream cheese --I don't

measure, just toss it in about an ounce at a time, till it's just the right

consistency --...season to taste. That's it. Of course, if you're making it

for that many people you'll have to do it in batches...unless you have a

REALLY big food processor, smile... Vicki

[Guest guest]

<< Speaking of that, could someone please post the " fauxtatoes " recipe again?

The cauliflower with cream cheese. Sounded good but I didn't print it, and

any other suggestions about how to handle Thanksgiving. >>

Really nothing to it. I use a bag of frozen cauliflower...for 21 people

you'd probably need four or five bags...just steam it till the cauliflower is

nice and soft...throw it in food processor with some cream cheese --I don't

measure, just toss it in about an ounce at a time, till it's just the right

consistency --...season to taste. That's it. Of course, if you're making it

for that many people you'll have to do it in batches...unless you have a

REALLY big food processor, smile... Vicki

[Guest guest]

No, do not take laxatives. Go to the health food store and buy

" psyllium " , mix with water, drink, then chase with another glass of

water. Psyllium is the active ingredient of Metamusil, Konsoyl and

some of the other expensive fiber stuff. Be sure and drink 8 glasses

of water a day. If I remember, Psyllium was cheap. There is no flavor

just the gritty beverage to drink. Psyllium creates bulk in the diet

and needs lots of water or it will have the opposite effect.

Calcium and multivitamin will help when on a strict diet that does not

include variety of food.

Word of caution regarding Vitamin E. It will raise blood pressure in

some people. Women on hormones are able to take higher dose than

others due to the hormone destroying part of the vitamin E. Check with

your doctor about taking Vitamin E and the dosage.

Marie

Does it get better as you can add

a few more carbs in the form of more veggies? And, what can I do

about it now? Just get a laxative from the drug store? What about

nutritional supplements? I may have asked this before. I can't

afford to buy a whole lot of them, so what is most important. I am

thinking a good multi-vitamin and calcium. I think Bernstein

mentioned something about vitamin E?

[Guest guest]

No, do not take laxatives. Go to the health food store and buy

" psyllium " , mix with water, drink, then chase with another glass of

water. Psyllium is the active ingredient of Metamusil, Konsoyl and

some of the other expensive fiber stuff. Be sure and drink 8 glasses

of water a day. If I remember, Psyllium was cheap. There is no flavor

just the gritty beverage to drink. Psyllium creates bulk in the diet

and needs lots of water or it will have the opposite effect.

Calcium and multivitamin will help when on a strict diet that does not

include variety of food.

Word of caution regarding Vitamin E. It will raise blood pressure in

some people. Women on hormones are able to take higher dose than

others due to the hormone destroying part of the vitamin E. Check with

your doctor about taking Vitamin E and the dosage.

Marie

Does it get better as you can add

a few more carbs in the form of more veggies? And, what can I do

about it now? Just get a laxative from the drug store? What about

nutritional supplements? I may have asked this before. I can't

afford to buy a whole lot of them, so what is most important. I am

thinking a good multi-vitamin and calcium. I think Bernstein

mentioned something about vitamin E?

[Guest guest]

No, do not take laxatives. Go to the health food store and buy

" psyllium " , mix with water, drink, then chase with another glass of

water. Psyllium is the active ingredient of Metamusil, Konsoyl and

some of the other expensive fiber stuff. Be sure and drink 8 glasses

of water a day. If I remember, Psyllium was cheap. There is no flavor

just the gritty beverage to drink. Psyllium creates bulk in the diet

and needs lots of water or it will have the opposite effect.

Calcium and multivitamin will help when on a strict diet that does not

include variety of food.

Word of caution regarding Vitamin E. It will raise blood pressure in

some people. Women on hormones are able to take higher dose than

others due to the hormone destroying part of the vitamin E. Check with

your doctor about taking Vitamin E and the dosage.

Marie

Does it get better as you can add

a few more carbs in the form of more veggies? And, what can I do

about it now? Just get a laxative from the drug store? What about

nutritional supplements? I may have asked this before. I can't

afford to buy a whole lot of them, so what is most important. I am

thinking a good multi-vitamin and calcium. I think Bernstein

mentioned something about vitamin E?

[Guest guest]

--- A friend of mine is having that problem but it is more related to

the medication and her doctor reccommended stool softners. It can

also be caused by the new way of eating and will pass as the body

adjusts to it.

madge

In diabetes_int@y..., GayRghts@a... wrote:

> Hello jimmyjan@s... (Jim and Janice),

>

> In reference to your comment:

>

> è My problem is constipation. I am feeling very bloated.

> è I did read that this is common during the induction

> è period. Does it get better as you can add a few more

> è carbs in the form of more veggies? And, what can I do

> è about it now? Just get a laxative from the drug store?

>

> Flax seed, seems to work quite well i've heard...

> I don't have that problem.

> Fibercon tablets i've heard also work...

> you don't want a laxative, you want a fiber or bulking agent.

>

>

> ========Original Message========

> Subj: Questions

> Date: 10/5/01 10:38:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time

> From: jimmyjan@s... (Jim and Janice)

> Reply-to: diabetes_int@y...

> To: diabetes_int@y...

>

> Hello everyone. My mailbox wasjust too full to catch up on all the

posts, so

> I had to delete and start fresh. Hope I didn't miss too much. A

couple

> things...I did manage to get Dr. Bernstein's book from the

library...very

> informative. I also picked up Dr. Atkin's book, doing a little

comparison

> since several of you here seem to be using his diet as well. I

started on

> Tuesday and have been doing well...and it's true...I really haven't

been

> hungry between meals like I was when I did the high carb, low fat

thing. We

> even took the kids out for supper tonight and it was ok. I got

steak and

> mushrooms and ordered a small caesar side salad instead of the

potatoes. My

> sugar before supper was 6.8 and one hour after was only 6.9.

>

> I still have more to read, and a lot to learn. My problem is

constipation.

> I am feeling very bloated. I did read that this is common during

the

> induction period. Does it get better as you can add a few more

carbs in the

> form of more veggies? And, what can I do about it now? Just get a

laxative

> from the drug store? What about nutritional supplements? I may

have asked

> this before. I can't afford to buy a whole lot of them, so what is

most

> important. I am thinking a good multi-vitamin and calcium. I

think

> Bernstein mentioned something about vitamin E? Have to get back to

the

> books. I've been real busy this week getting ready for 21 people

coming over

> for Thanksgiving dinner this weekend (I am in Canada). Speaking of

that,

> could someone please post the " fauxtatoes " recipe again? The

cauliflower

> with cream cheese. Sounded good but I didn't print it, and any

other

> suggestions about how to handle Thanksgiving.

>

> Thanks for all your help. This is a great list.

>

> HUGS, Janice

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

--- A friend of mine is having that problem but it is more related to

the medication and her doctor reccommended stool softners. It can

also be caused by the new way of eating and will pass as the body

adjusts to it.

madge

In diabetes_int@y..., GayRghts@a... wrote:

> Hello jimmyjan@s... (Jim and Janice),

>

> In reference to your comment:

>

> è My problem is constipation. I am feeling very bloated.

> è I did read that this is common during the induction

> è period. Does it get better as you can add a few more

> è carbs in the form of more veggies? And, what can I do

> è about it now? Just get a laxative from the drug store?

>

> Flax seed, seems to work quite well i've heard...

> I don't have that problem.

> Fibercon tablets i've heard also work...

> you don't want a laxative, you want a fiber or bulking agent.

>

>

> ========Original Message========

> Subj: Questions

> Date: 10/5/01 10:38:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time

> From: jimmyjan@s... (Jim and Janice)

> Reply-to: diabetes_int@y...

> To: diabetes_int@y...

>

> Hello everyone. My mailbox wasjust too full to catch up on all the

posts, so

> I had to delete and start fresh. Hope I didn't miss too much. A

couple

> things...I did manage to get Dr. Bernstein's book from the

library...very

> informative. I also picked up Dr. Atkin's book, doing a little

comparison

> since several of you here seem to be using his diet as well. I

started on

> Tuesday and have been doing well...and it's true...I really haven't

been

> hungry between meals like I was when I did the high carb, low fat

thing. We

> even took the kids out for supper tonight and it was ok. I got

steak and

> mushrooms and ordered a small caesar side salad instead of the

potatoes. My

> sugar before supper was 6.8 and one hour after was only 6.9.

>

> I still have more to read, and a lot to learn. My problem is

constipation.

> I am feeling very bloated. I did read that this is common during

the

> induction period. Does it get better as you can add a few more

carbs in the

> form of more veggies? And, what can I do about it now? Just get a

laxative

> from the drug store? What about nutritional supplements? I may

have asked

> this before. I can't afford to buy a whole lot of them, so what is

most

> important. I am thinking a good multi-vitamin and calcium. I

think

> Bernstein mentioned something about vitamin E? Have to get back to

the

> books. I've been real busy this week getting ready for 21 people

coming over

> for Thanksgiving dinner this weekend (I am in Canada). Speaking of

that,

> could someone please post the " fauxtatoes " recipe again? The

cauliflower

> with cream cheese. Sounded good but I didn't print it, and any

other

> suggestions about how to handle Thanksgiving.

>

> Thanks for all your help. This is a great list.

>

> HUGS, Janice

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

--- A friend of mine is having that problem but it is more related to

the medication and her doctor reccommended stool softners. It can

also be caused by the new way of eating and will pass as the body

adjusts to it.

madge

In diabetes_int@y..., GayRghts@a... wrote:

> Hello jimmyjan@s... (Jim and Janice),

>

> In reference to your comment:

>

> è My problem is constipation. I am feeling very bloated.

> è I did read that this is common during the induction

> è period. Does it get better as you can add a few more

> è carbs in the form of more veggies? And, what can I do

> è about it now? Just get a laxative from the drug store?

>

> Flax seed, seems to work quite well i've heard...

> I don't have that problem.

> Fibercon tablets i've heard also work...

> you don't want a laxative, you want a fiber or bulking agent.

>

>

> ========Original Message========

> Subj: Questions

> Date: 10/5/01 10:38:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time

> From: jimmyjan@s... (Jim and Janice)

> Reply-to: diabetes_int@y...

> To: diabetes_int@y...

>

> Hello everyone. My mailbox wasjust too full to catch up on all the

posts, so

> I had to delete and start fresh. Hope I didn't miss too much. A

couple

> things...I did manage to get Dr. Bernstein's book from the

library...very

> informative. I also picked up Dr. Atkin's book, doing a little

comparison

> since several of you here seem to be using his diet as well. I

started on

> Tuesday and have been doing well...and it's true...I really haven't

been

> hungry between meals like I was when I did the high carb, low fat

thing. We

> even took the kids out for supper tonight and it was ok. I got

steak and

> mushrooms and ordered a small caesar side salad instead of the

potatoes. My

> sugar before supper was 6.8 and one hour after was only 6.9.

>

> I still have more to read, and a lot to learn. My problem is

constipation.

> I am feeling very bloated. I did read that this is common during

the

> induction period. Does it get better as you can add a few more

carbs in the

> form of more veggies? And, what can I do about it now? Just get a

laxative

> from the drug store? What about nutritional supplements? I may

have asked

> this before. I can't afford to buy a whole lot of them, so what is

most

> important. I am thinking a good multi-vitamin and calcium. I

think

> Bernstein mentioned something about vitamin E? Have to get back to

the

> books. I've been real busy this week getting ready for 21 people

coming over

> for Thanksgiving dinner this weekend (I am in Canada). Speaking of

that,

> could someone please post the " fauxtatoes " recipe again? The

cauliflower

> with cream cheese. Sounded good but I didn't print it, and any

other

> suggestions about how to handle Thanksgiving.

>

> Thanks for all your help. This is a great list.

>

> HUGS, Janice

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We put a lot of the recipes in the shared files, Janice. Go to the Yahoo

website at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes_int > Files > Recipes

and there they are.

Barb

> Speaking of that, could someone please post the " fauxtatoes " recipe

again? The cauliflower with cream cheese. Sounded good but I didn't print

it, and any other suggestions about how to handle Thanksgiving.

[Guest guest]

We put a lot of the recipes in the shared files, Janice. Go to the Yahoo

website at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes_int > Files > Recipes

and there they are.

Barb

> Speaking of that, could someone please post the " fauxtatoes " recipe

again? The cauliflower with cream cheese. Sounded good but I didn't print

it, and any other suggestions about how to handle Thanksgiving.

[Guest guest]

We put a lot of the recipes in the shared files, Janice. Go to the Yahoo

website at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes_int > Files > Recipes

and there they are.

Barb

> Speaking of that, could someone please post the " fauxtatoes " recipe

again? The cauliflower with cream cheese. Sounded good but I didn't print

it, and any other suggestions about how to handle Thanksgiving.

[Guest guest]

--- Can also use fresh cauliflower, that's what I have been doing.

Also there are a lot of variations that can be used. One used the

cream cheese with cheddar cheese and sour cream and bacon. I added

the bacon to mine, it was good!!! Anything you could or would do

with potatoes seems to work with the cauliflower as well. We have

been going on with this in another group also since I mentioned this

after reading Vicki's post on it. Big hit over there too!!!!

Vicki you hit a goldmine with this one!!!!

Just DON'T use a hand mixer!!!!!!!!! A hand masher will work ok if

you don't have a processor.

Madge

In diabetes_int@y..., whimsy2@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 10/5/01 9:37:59 PM EST, jimmyjan@s... writes:

>

> << Speaking of that, could someone please post the " fauxtatoes "

recipe again?

> The cauliflower with cream cheese. Sounded good but I didn't

print it, and

> any other suggestions about how to handle Thanksgiving. >>

>

> Really nothing to it. I use a bag of frozen cauliflower...for 21

people

> you'd probably need four or five bags...just steam it till the

cauliflower is

> nice and soft...throw it in food processor with some cream cheese -

-I don't

> measure, just toss it in about an ounce at a time, till it's just

the right

> consistency --...season to taste. That's it. Of course, if you're

making it

> for that many people you'll have to do it in batches...unless you

have a

> REALLY big food processor, smile... Vicki