Adrenal Support

[Guest guest]

Lynda,

Your basals are saying that you are hypo. and the later day temps are

saying that you have weak adrenals.

Can you try something? Split your Thyroid into quarters... take a quarter

when you wake... a quarter when you go to bed... and the other two spaced

during the day.... Sublingually (to rule out absorption and digestion

concerns)....

It's going to spread the dosage out to be more even, your body won't do

such a cycle.

Are you taking any Selenium? It helps immensely with conversion of T4 to

T3.

To give you a bit of info so my suggestions make more sense. When we take

the Armour the T3 hits us pretty quick.. but within four hours it's all

used up and we're on our own. From that point our body has to convert T4

to T3 (T4 is the storage hormone, T3 is what our bodies mostly use, some

of our organs do use T4.. but mostly it's T3) If you dose your Armour

just once a day and your body isn't good at conversion.. that leaves you

pretty hard up the rest of the day. If you split up the dose you aren't

taking any more hormone... you're just spreading the T3 out more so that

your body gets more use out of it. Between doses, or if your body needs

more T3 than what you have available, it starts converting. The selenium

helps with that, pulling an iodine molecule off a T4 molecule and leaving

you with a T3.

I had insomnia for years. I finally got rid of it when I started taking a

dose of thyroid as I went to bed. I now dose my thyroid 5 times a day,

same with my adrenal. I split my vitamin tabs so that I can take a piece

with every meal. I take my Selenium four times a day (it's quartered, as

are most of my pills).... It seems like a lot of bother, but I can't even

begin to tell you what a difference it has made in the way I feel.

For some folks it works great to take thyroid just once in the morning...

but for some of us we need it spread out more....

I may turn out to work as well for you as it did for me....

Topper ()

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:35:53 -0000 " Lynda Illingsworth "

writes:

> ,

> I take armour first thing in the morning. Cortef at 8.00am, 11am,

> 2pm and 5pm (but have been taking cortef for only 2 weeks and this

> has not affected my sleep pattern)

> Basal temperature (taken on waking) 97, 11am 97.4, 3pm 97.2

> Pulse varies widely - anything from 64 to 88

> Breathing and sinusitis has improved since being on cortef.

> I also take magnesium, vit e, multi b after breakfast and after

> dinner

> Thanks

> Lynda

[Guest guest]

Lynda,

Your basals are saying that you are hypo. and the later day temps are

saying that you have weak adrenals.

Can you try something? Split your Thyroid into quarters... take a quarter

when you wake... a quarter when you go to bed... and the other two spaced

during the day.... Sublingually (to rule out absorption and digestion

concerns)....

It's going to spread the dosage out to be more even, your body won't do

such a cycle.

Are you taking any Selenium? It helps immensely with conversion of T4 to

T3.

To give you a bit of info so my suggestions make more sense. When we take

the Armour the T3 hits us pretty quick.. but within four hours it's all

used up and we're on our own. From that point our body has to convert T4

to T3 (T4 is the storage hormone, T3 is what our bodies mostly use, some

of our organs do use T4.. but mostly it's T3) If you dose your Armour

just once a day and your body isn't good at conversion.. that leaves you

pretty hard up the rest of the day. If you split up the dose you aren't

taking any more hormone... you're just spreading the T3 out more so that

your body gets more use out of it. Between doses, or if your body needs

more T3 than what you have available, it starts converting. The selenium

helps with that, pulling an iodine molecule off a T4 molecule and leaving

you with a T3.

I had insomnia for years. I finally got rid of it when I started taking a

dose of thyroid as I went to bed. I now dose my thyroid 5 times a day,

same with my adrenal. I split my vitamin tabs so that I can take a piece

with every meal. I take my Selenium four times a day (it's quartered, as

are most of my pills).... It seems like a lot of bother, but I can't even

begin to tell you what a difference it has made in the way I feel.

For some folks it works great to take thyroid just once in the morning...

but for some of us we need it spread out more....

I may turn out to work as well for you as it did for me....

Topper ()

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:35:53 -0000 " Lynda Illingsworth "

writes:

> ,

> I take armour first thing in the morning. Cortef at 8.00am, 11am,

> 2pm and 5pm (but have been taking cortef for only 2 weeks and this

> has not affected my sleep pattern)

> Basal temperature (taken on waking) 97, 11am 97.4, 3pm 97.2

> Pulse varies widely - anything from 64 to 88

> Breathing and sinusitis has improved since being on cortef.

> I also take magnesium, vit e, multi b after breakfast and after

> dinner

> Thanks

> Lynda

[Guest guest]

Lynda,

Your basals are saying that you are hypo. and the later day temps are

saying that you have weak adrenals.

Can you try something? Split your Thyroid into quarters... take a quarter

when you wake... a quarter when you go to bed... and the other two spaced

during the day.... Sublingually (to rule out absorption and digestion

concerns)....

It's going to spread the dosage out to be more even, your body won't do

such a cycle.

Are you taking any Selenium? It helps immensely with conversion of T4 to

T3.

To give you a bit of info so my suggestions make more sense. When we take

the Armour the T3 hits us pretty quick.. but within four hours it's all

used up and we're on our own. From that point our body has to convert T4

to T3 (T4 is the storage hormone, T3 is what our bodies mostly use, some

of our organs do use T4.. but mostly it's T3) If you dose your Armour

just once a day and your body isn't good at conversion.. that leaves you

pretty hard up the rest of the day. If you split up the dose you aren't

taking any more hormone... you're just spreading the T3 out more so that

your body gets more use out of it. Between doses, or if your body needs

more T3 than what you have available, it starts converting. The selenium

helps with that, pulling an iodine molecule off a T4 molecule and leaving

you with a T3.

I had insomnia for years. I finally got rid of it when I started taking a

dose of thyroid as I went to bed. I now dose my thyroid 5 times a day,

same with my adrenal. I split my vitamin tabs so that I can take a piece

with every meal. I take my Selenium four times a day (it's quartered, as

are most of my pills).... It seems like a lot of bother, but I can't even

begin to tell you what a difference it has made in the way I feel.

For some folks it works great to take thyroid just once in the morning...

but for some of us we need it spread out more....

I may turn out to work as well for you as it did for me....

Topper ()

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:35:53 -0000 " Lynda Illingsworth "

writes:

> ,

> I take armour first thing in the morning. Cortef at 8.00am, 11am,

> 2pm and 5pm (but have been taking cortef for only 2 weeks and this

> has not affected my sleep pattern)

> Basal temperature (taken on waking) 97, 11am 97.4, 3pm 97.2

> Pulse varies widely - anything from 64 to 88

> Breathing and sinusitis has improved since being on cortef.

> I also take magnesium, vit e, multi b after breakfast and after

> dinner

> Thanks

> Lynda

[Guest guest]

Lynda said, I have just realised that one of the symptoms that has returned

- and always does seem to return when my thyroid is not right - is excess

stomach acid and heartburn.

The last few nights I have had acid come right up into my mouth.

Also, throughout the day I get these choking episodes. Feels like the back

of my throat - in the tonsil area - closes up and I choke on my saliva

Dear Loopies, Is this a symptom of Adrenal problems?? I have the bad acid

all the time too. With the Hasimoto's Thyroid. Can you tell me what to do to

counteract this condition besides OTC pills. Do we replenish the Adrenals

with something??

Please forgive my rather dumb questions, but everything is new to me yet.

Thanks so much for your support.

Hugggs.

Myrlene

[Guest guest]

,

You swallow your multi-vitamins and minerals.. they all need to interact

with the chemicals in the food you eat.. they have to go through the

digestive system....

Selenium... you shouldn't be doing more than about 400 to 600 mcg a

day... over that and I read there are side effects. I only take thyroid

and adrenal under my tongue, everything else goes into the tummy with

food and/or water.

I don't take Isocort, I'm doing a Natural Desiccated Adrenal from

Nutri-Meds, there are others here, though, that are taking Isocort.. they

can fill you in on that......

Topper ()

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:48:12 EST Ferd31366@... writes:

> ,

>

> Okay I can do that! I am taking about 5 selenium pills a day due

> to my

> fillings in my mouth so I take a whole pill 5 time a day anyway.

> The

> multivitamin thing NO WAY they are so nasty I have to swallow. I

> have not even ordered

> the Glandulars at this point. I have been taking a product called

> T-100 which

> is testosterone. I take a muli B complex and L-Tyrosine along with

> DHEA. GLA

> ,Coconut oil, extra vitamin C st. s wort and T-3.

>

> I am still doing a lot of reading on all this and trying different

> things.

>

> I would like to know more about this Isocort. What all is in it and

> how it

> works. Actually been reading about that today.

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Maybe explain that your nerves are really sensitive and it's like having

a sunburn... everyone can relate to that.... a slap on a sunburn hurts

like the dickens..... but when you don't have a sunburn, it's not as bad.

Topper ()

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:51:42 EST Ferd31366@... writes:

> Also, does anyone else have a problem when someone jokingly smacks

> you on the

> rear and it hurts more then it should? If so how do I explain to

> people it really hurts me and its not funny.

>

[Guest guest]

,

Maybe explain that your nerves are really sensitive and it's like having

a sunburn... everyone can relate to that.... a slap on a sunburn hurts

like the dickens..... but when you don't have a sunburn, it's not as bad.

Topper ()

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:51:42 EST Ferd31366@... writes:

> Also, does anyone else have a problem when someone jokingly smacks

> you on the

> rear and it hurts more then it should? If so how do I explain to

> people it really hurts me and its not funny.

>

[Guest guest]

,

Maybe explain that your nerves are really sensitive and it's like having

a sunburn... everyone can relate to that.... a slap on a sunburn hurts

like the dickens..... but when you don't have a sunburn, it's not as bad.

Topper ()

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:51:42 EST Ferd31366@... writes:

> Also, does anyone else have a problem when someone jokingly smacks

> you on the

> rear and it hurts more then it should? If so how do I explain to

> people it really hurts me and its not funny.

>

[Guest guest]

I get them from Nutri-Meds. It's Natural Desiccated Adrenal Glands.. from

cows... Been on it since last February... Thanks to it, and DHEA I

actually have 'feelings' now and react to things... I don't just sit when

something happens I get mad at things that I should be mad at and cry or

laugh, as the situation requires... I was such a Mona about

everything, no reactions, just sitting.... but crying all the time....

I still cry... but not all the time... and I'm back to cussing when I'm

pissed and laughing out loud at jokes....

Definite improvement!

Topper ()

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:50:14 EST Ferd31366@... writes:

> ,

>

> Okay I was thinking you can really taste some nasty things for you

> health!

> LOL What are you taking for you adrenal support?

>

>

>

>

> A Proud member of the Piggy Club

[Guest guest]

I'm taking Twin Labs Natural thyroid tabs now.... I get them from

Mexico... before that I was taking Natural thyroid from Nutri-Meds... I

did great on both... I got a chance to get the tabs from Mexico for

really cheap so I'm on those until I can't get anymore....

I'm on 2-1/2 grain per day right now.... 2 grain tabs cut into

quarters.... 5 quarters taken a day.

I'm borderline hyper, showing symptoms again today... I may cut back a

bit 5 one day and 4 the next..... that would average me out at 2-1/4

grain per day....

Not sure what you mean by " take them all " ....

Topper ()

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:41:12 EST Ferd31366@... writes:

> ,

> are you on all this plus Armour or synthroid?

> can I take them all?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Correction Twin-Caps Labs.. they're located in New York....

Topper ()

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:37:06 -0600 topper2@... writes:

> I'm taking Twin Labs Natural thyroid tabs now.... I get them from

> Mexico... before that I was taking Natural thyroid from

> Nutri-Meds... I

> did great on both... I got a chance to get the tabs from Mexico for

> really cheap so I'm on those until I can't get anymore....

> I'm on 2-1/2 grain per day right now.... 2 grain tabs cut into

> quarters.... 5 quarters taken a day.

> I'm borderline hyper, showing symptoms again today... I may cut back

> a bit 5 one day and 4 the next..... that would average me out at

> 2-1/4 grain per day....

> Not sure what you mean by " take them all " ....

>

> Topper ()

[Guest guest]

Correction Twin-Caps Labs.. they're located in New York....

Topper ()

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:37:06 -0600 topper2@... writes:

> I'm taking Twin Labs Natural thyroid tabs now.... I get them from

> Mexico... before that I was taking Natural thyroid from

> Nutri-Meds... I

> did great on both... I got a chance to get the tabs from Mexico for

> really cheap so I'm on those until I can't get anymore....

> I'm on 2-1/2 grain per day right now.... 2 grain tabs cut into

> quarters.... 5 quarters taken a day.

> I'm borderline hyper, showing symptoms again today... I may cut back

> a bit 5 one day and 4 the next..... that would average me out at

> 2-1/4 grain per day....

> Not sure what you mean by " take them all " ....

>

> Topper ()

[Guest guest]

I understand that but I get it before I go to bed when I am sitting upright.

Lynda

----- Original Message -----

From: topper2@...

The problem with acid reflux... when it comes up into your throat when

you are laying down... has to do with the flap/door when the esophagus

and stomach meet.

[Guest guest]

Hello briggy1997,

b> I ordered " Adrenal Support " from Nature's Sunshine, who's products I

b> trust. I was reading the ingredients and it has " adrenal glandular

b> substance " from New Zealand. Does anyone know what this substance is

b> or have experience with real adreanal therapy with other products?

b> I have to say I'm afraid to take it.

I am on an adrenal support which contains adrenals, spleen, stomach

and parotid glands from US bovine sources -it has made a fantastic

difference to my life and the US has a bigger problem with cows than

New Zealand [though the US is still very very very low risk]

--

Best regards,

Alison

http://www.alisonashwell.com

mailto:alison.ashwell@...

new work uploaded

http://www.artwanted.com/alisonashwell

http://www.voodoochilli.net/artists/alisonashwell/

[Guest guest]

Hello briggy1997,

b> I ordered " Adrenal Support " from Nature's Sunshine, who's products I

b> trust. I was reading the ingredients and it has " adrenal glandular

b> substance " from New Zealand. Does anyone know what this substance is

b> or have experience with real adreanal therapy with other products?

b> I have to say I'm afraid to take it.

I am on an adrenal support which contains adrenals, spleen, stomach

and parotid glands from US bovine sources -it has made a fantastic

difference to my life and the US has a bigger problem with cows than

New Zealand [though the US is still very very very low risk]

--

Best regards,

Alison

http://www.alisonashwell.com

mailto:alison.ashwell@...

new work uploaded

http://www.artwanted.com/alisonashwell

http://www.voodoochilli.net/artists/alisonashwell/

[Guest guest]

The adrenal support supplements that are made from either whole

adrenal glands or from the adrenal cortex of the gland provide you

with low dose adrenal hormones, something you really need if you are

low adrenal from hypothyroidism.

There are many herbs out there that are supposed to help. These

include Ashwagahnda, gensing, Licorice, Maca, Gugulipid, and

Schizandra Fruit. There are more, but I can't think of them now.

Gensing, Maca and Gugulipid tend to be stimulatory, which may not be

helpful for some exhausted adrenals. Licorice root is the only herb

that will definitely cause an increase in adrenal hormones. It does

this by slowing the removal of cortisol by the liver, thus keeping

it in the system longer. To use Licorice root to support your

adrenals, take one teaspoon in a tea 4 times a day, evenly spaced

with the last dose around dinner. Do not use deglycerized, which has

the active ingredient removed. Do not stop suddenly after using it

for a while and be regular about taking it.

I personally had little luck with the herbs, except Licorice. You

can also purchase IsoCort, which is made from the adrenal cortex of

sheep. It contains some immune boosters too. It has 2.5 mg

hydrocortisone per tablet. The average hypo person with adrenal

fatigue will need 10 to 20mg a day. The same applies to being even

and regular about doses.

The animal extracts provide you with the hormones you need that help

the adrenals rebuild their stores and to rest. The herbs only give

support but will not supply materials for your adrenals to make

hormones.

In adrenal fatigue, it is usually the adrenal cortex that becomes

fatigued and the rest of the gland is working fine. So, when you buy

whole glandulars, you are getting the whole gland and thus some

hormones you don't need, but it is usually not a problem. Your own

adrenals will drop production to compensate. The adrenal cortex

produces around 40 different cortisones and so that is why the

glandulars are helpful. You can also go see a doctor and see if

he/she will prescribe hydrocortisone, which is the main cortisone

that you need in adrenal fatigue. You can also use synthetic

cortisones, like prednisone. You will need 10 to 20mg of

hydrocortisone a day. You will need less of prednisone because it is

cleared from the body much more slowly.

Adrenal fatigue takes from 4 months to 2 years to recover from. You

must rest and take care of yourself and eat frequent small meals.

Avoid sugar and caffiene and they overwork the adrenals. If thyroid

therapy is not high enough, adrenal will never go away. Be prepared

that you might need supplementation for a long time. As long as you

keep the dose below 20mg, it will not be harmful. You will also have

to get off of it slowly to give your adrenals time to adjust.

Tish

[Guest guest]

The adrenal support supplements that are made from either whole

adrenal glands or from the adrenal cortex of the gland provide you

with low dose adrenal hormones, something you really need if you are

low adrenal from hypothyroidism.

There are many herbs out there that are supposed to help. These

include Ashwagahnda, gensing, Licorice, Maca, Gugulipid, and

Schizandra Fruit. There are more, but I can't think of them now.

Gensing, Maca and Gugulipid tend to be stimulatory, which may not be

helpful for some exhausted adrenals. Licorice root is the only herb

that will definitely cause an increase in adrenal hormones. It does

this by slowing the removal of cortisol by the liver, thus keeping

it in the system longer. To use Licorice root to support your

adrenals, take one teaspoon in a tea 4 times a day, evenly spaced

with the last dose around dinner. Do not use deglycerized, which has

the active ingredient removed. Do not stop suddenly after using it

for a while and be regular about taking it.

I personally had little luck with the herbs, except Licorice. You

can also purchase IsoCort, which is made from the adrenal cortex of

sheep. It contains some immune boosters too. It has 2.5 mg

hydrocortisone per tablet. The average hypo person with adrenal

fatigue will need 10 to 20mg a day. The same applies to being even

and regular about doses.

The animal extracts provide you with the hormones you need that help

the adrenals rebuild their stores and to rest. The herbs only give

support but will not supply materials for your adrenals to make

hormones.

In adrenal fatigue, it is usually the adrenal cortex that becomes

fatigued and the rest of the gland is working fine. So, when you buy

whole glandulars, you are getting the whole gland and thus some

hormones you don't need, but it is usually not a problem. Your own

adrenals will drop production to compensate. The adrenal cortex

produces around 40 different cortisones and so that is why the

glandulars are helpful. You can also go see a doctor and see if

he/she will prescribe hydrocortisone, which is the main cortisone

that you need in adrenal fatigue. You can also use synthetic

cortisones, like prednisone. You will need 10 to 20mg of

hydrocortisone a day. You will need less of prednisone because it is

cleared from the body much more slowly.

Adrenal fatigue takes from 4 months to 2 years to recover from. You

must rest and take care of yourself and eat frequent small meals.

Avoid sugar and caffiene and they overwork the adrenals. If thyroid

therapy is not high enough, adrenal will never go away. Be prepared

that you might need supplementation for a long time. As long as you

keep the dose below 20mg, it will not be harmful. You will also have

to get off of it slowly to give your adrenals time to adjust.

Tish

[Guest guest]

The adrenal support supplements that are made from either whole

adrenal glands or from the adrenal cortex of the gland provide you

with low dose adrenal hormones, something you really need if you are

low adrenal from hypothyroidism.

There are many herbs out there that are supposed to help. These

include Ashwagahnda, gensing, Licorice, Maca, Gugulipid, and

Schizandra Fruit. There are more, but I can't think of them now.

Gensing, Maca and Gugulipid tend to be stimulatory, which may not be

helpful for some exhausted adrenals. Licorice root is the only herb

that will definitely cause an increase in adrenal hormones. It does

this by slowing the removal of cortisol by the liver, thus keeping

it in the system longer. To use Licorice root to support your

adrenals, take one teaspoon in a tea 4 times a day, evenly spaced

with the last dose around dinner. Do not use deglycerized, which has

the active ingredient removed. Do not stop suddenly after using it

for a while and be regular about taking it.

I personally had little luck with the herbs, except Licorice. You

can also purchase IsoCort, which is made from the adrenal cortex of

sheep. It contains some immune boosters too. It has 2.5 mg

hydrocortisone per tablet. The average hypo person with adrenal

fatigue will need 10 to 20mg a day. The same applies to being even

and regular about doses.

The animal extracts provide you with the hormones you need that help

the adrenals rebuild their stores and to rest. The herbs only give

support but will not supply materials for your adrenals to make

hormones.

In adrenal fatigue, it is usually the adrenal cortex that becomes

fatigued and the rest of the gland is working fine. So, when you buy

whole glandulars, you are getting the whole gland and thus some

hormones you don't need, but it is usually not a problem. Your own

adrenals will drop production to compensate. The adrenal cortex

produces around 40 different cortisones and so that is why the

glandulars are helpful. You can also go see a doctor and see if

he/she will prescribe hydrocortisone, which is the main cortisone

that you need in adrenal fatigue. You can also use synthetic

cortisones, like prednisone. You will need 10 to 20mg of

hydrocortisone a day. You will need less of prednisone because it is

cleared from the body much more slowly.

Adrenal fatigue takes from 4 months to 2 years to recover from. You

must rest and take care of yourself and eat frequent small meals.

Avoid sugar and caffiene and they overwork the adrenals. If thyroid

therapy is not high enough, adrenal will never go away. Be prepared

that you might need supplementation for a long time. As long as you

keep the dose below 20mg, it will not be harmful. You will also have

to get off of it slowly to give your adrenals time to adjust.

Tish

[Guest guest]

This is the description from the web site and the bottle label. It

says bovine.

Dietary Supplement

Recommended Usage

Take one capsule with a meal twice daily.

Ingredients

Supplement Facts

Serving Size 1 Capsule

Amount Per Capsule %Daily Value

Vitamin C (as ascorbic acid) 25 mg 40%

Thiamine Mononitrate (as Vitamin B1) 10 mg 670%

Riboflavin Phospaytes (including riboflavin-5-phosphate - as Vitamin

B2) 5 mg 300%

Vitamin B6 (as pyridoxal-5-phosphate) 5 mg 250%

Pantothenic Acid (as d-calcium pantothenate 45 mg 450%

Magnesium (as citrate) 10 mg 2%

Zinc (as citrate) 5 mg 35%

Potassium (as citrate) 5 mg *

Proprietary Blend 240 mg *

Adrenal Substance, Schizandra Fruit (Schisandra chinensis), Borage

Oil (Borago officinalis), Licorice Root (Glycyrrhiza glabra),

Protease Blend.

*Daily Value not established

Other Ingredients: Cellulose (plant fiber), gelatin, and water.

Notes

This bottle was sealed for your protection. Do not use if inner seal

is missing or damaged.

*These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug

Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat,

cure, or prevent any disease.

Miscellaneous Information

•Adrenal Substance from New Zealand

•Helps Support Adrenal Function

•Supports Body's Ability to Regulate Stress*

The adrenal glands are the primary organ system for handling the

negative effects of emotional, mental and physical stress, including

fatigue and muscular weakness. Adrenal Support is formulated with

adrenal glandular substance from New Zealand plus a synergistic blend

of vitamins, minerals, enzymes and adaptogenic herbs to support and

strengthen the adrenal glands.*

Nature's Sunshine uses natural source materials in its products that

are subject to color variation.

©2002 Nature's Sunshine Products, Inc.

Product of U.S.A.

Adrenal Support [Glandular, Nervous] is a synergistic blend of

vitamins, minerals, enzymes and adaptogenic herbs designed to support

and strengthen the adrenal glands. Adrenal Support is also formulated

with an adrenal glandular substance from New Zealand. The ingredients

in Adrenal Support may offer help in supporting adrenal functions and

maintaining health. The B vitamins, for example, support most of the

biochemical processes in the body, notably energy production.

Vitamins B1 and B2 are necessary for helping the body endure

emotional stress and maintaining the cardiovascular system. Adrenal

Support combines the most bioavailable and biological-terrain-

friendly forms of these vital nutrients. Each capsule contains bovine

adrenal glandular substance, generous amounts of vitamins B1, B2, B6,

pantothenic acid and vitamin C, plus zinc, protease, borage oil

powder, licorice root and schizandra fruit.

Take 1 capsule twice daily with food or as directed by your health

care practitioner

> It's basically the same as what I'm taking... I'm on a whole

descanted

> adrenal glandular... freeze dried and process just as natural

thyroid

> is....

>

> Are there any other ingredients listed? and do you know what animal

the

> gland comes from.. it's mostly from sheep or cows.. mine is from

cows

> (bovine).

>

> Also, what is the size of the tabs, as in amount of active

glandular?

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:33:27 -0000 " briggy1997 " <briggy1997@y...>

> writes:

> Hello. I believe that I have an adrenal deficiency due to a

> previously untreated thyroid problem.

>

> I ordered " Adrenal Support " from Nature's Sunshine, who's products

I

> trust. I was reading the ingredients and it has " adrenal glandular

> substance " from New Zealand. Does anyone know what this substance

is

> or have experience with real adreanal therapy with other products?

>

> I have to say I'm afraid to take it.

>

> Thank you for your input.

[Guest guest]

Is taking adrenal support o.k. for Hashi's? I think that may be what

is going on, not hypo as orignally suspected. I will find out more

late next week.

> The adrenal support supplements that are made from either whole

> adrenal glands or from the adrenal cortex of the gland provide you

> with low dose adrenal hormones, something you really need if you

are

> low adrenal from hypothyroidism.

>

> There are many herbs out there that are supposed to help. These

> include Ashwagahnda, gensing, Licorice, Maca, Gugulipid, and

> Schizandra Fruit. There are more, but I can't think of them now.

> Gensing, Maca and Gugulipid tend to be stimulatory, which may not

be

> helpful for some exhausted adrenals. Licorice root is the only herb

> that will definitely cause an increase in adrenal hormones. It does

> this by slowing the removal of cortisol by the liver, thus keeping

> it in the system longer. To use Licorice root to support your

> adrenals, take one teaspoon in a tea 4 times a day, evenly spaced

> with the last dose around dinner. Do not use deglycerized, which

has

> the active ingredient removed. Do not stop suddenly after using it

> for a while and be regular about taking it.

>

> I personally had little luck with the herbs, except Licorice. You

> can also purchase IsoCort, which is made from the adrenal cortex of

> sheep. It contains some immune boosters too. It has 2.5 mg

> hydrocortisone per tablet. The average hypo person with adrenal

> fatigue will need 10 to 20mg a day. The same applies to being even

> and regular about doses.

>

> The animal extracts provide you with the hormones you need that

help

> the adrenals rebuild their stores and to rest. The herbs only give

> support but will not supply materials for your adrenals to make

> hormones.

>

> In adrenal fatigue, it is usually the adrenal cortex that becomes

> fatigued and the rest of the gland is working fine. So, when you

buy

> whole glandulars, you are getting the whole gland and thus some

> hormones you don't need, but it is usually not a problem. Your own

> adrenals will drop production to compensate. The adrenal cortex

> produces around 40 different cortisones and so that is why the

> glandulars are helpful. You can also go see a doctor and see if

> he/she will prescribe hydrocortisone, which is the main cortisone

> that you need in adrenal fatigue. You can also use synthetic

> cortisones, like prednisone. You will need 10 to 20mg of

> hydrocortisone a day. You will need less of prednisone because it

is

> cleared from the body much more slowly.

>

> Adrenal fatigue takes from 4 months to 2 years to recover from. You

> must rest and take care of yourself and eat frequent small meals.

> Avoid sugar and caffiene and they overwork the adrenals. If thyroid

> therapy is not high enough, adrenal will never go away. Be prepared

> that you might need supplementation for a long time. As long as you

> keep the dose below 20mg, it will not be harmful. You will also

have

> to get off of it slowly to give your adrenals time to adjust.

>

> Tish

[Guest guest]

I think the New Zealand product is dessicated sheep adrenals. I use Isocort and it works great.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

[Guest guest]

Don't worry about mad cow. If that were a problem, it would be in the brain/nervous system tissues, not in the adrenals.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

-----Original Message-----From: briggy1997 Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 1:51 PMTo: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: Re: Adrenal SupportThank you for your quick response. I didn't even think about the mad cow issues, if is even cow "parts". What symptoms did it releive for you?

[Guest guest]

Most definitely. Any thyroid problem, hypo, hyper or hashi's will put stress on the adrenals. I am hashi's and would not be without it.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

-----Original Message-----From: briggy1997 Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 2:39 PMTo: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: Re: Adrenal SupportIs taking adrenal support o.k. for Hashi's? I think that may be what is going on, not hypo as orignally suspected. I will find out more late next week.

[Guest guest]

Most definitely. Any thyroid problem, hypo, hyper or hashi's will put stress on the adrenals. I am hashi's and would not be without it.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

-----Original Message-----From: briggy1997 Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 2:39 PMTo: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: Re: Adrenal SupportIs taking adrenal support o.k. for Hashi's? I think that may be what is going on, not hypo as orignally suspected. I will find out more late next week.

[Guest guest]

Most definitely. Any thyroid problem, hypo, hyper or hashi's will put stress on the adrenals. I am hashi's and would not be without it.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

-----Original Message-----From: briggy1997 Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 2:39 PMTo: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: Re: Adrenal SupportIs taking adrenal support o.k. for Hashi's? I think that may be what is going on, not hypo as orignally suspected. I will find out more late next week.