Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 Lynda, Your basals are saying that you are hypo. and the later day temps are saying that you have weak adrenals. Can you try something? Split your Thyroid into quarters... take a quarter when you wake... a quarter when you go to bed... and the other two spaced during the day.... Sublingually (to rule out absorption and digestion concerns).... It's going to spread the dosage out to be more even, your body won't do such a cycle. Are you taking any Selenium? It helps immensely with conversion of T4 to T3. To give you a bit of info so my suggestions make more sense. When we take the Armour the T3 hits us pretty quick.. but within four hours it's all used up and we're on our own. From that point our body has to convert T4 to T3 (T4 is the storage hormone, T3 is what our bodies mostly use, some of our organs do use T4.. but mostly it's T3) If you dose your Armour just once a day and your body isn't good at conversion.. that leaves you pretty hard up the rest of the day. If you split up the dose you aren't taking any more hormone... you're just spreading the T3 out more so that your body gets more use out of it. Between doses, or if your body needs more T3 than what you have available, it starts converting. The selenium helps with that, pulling an iodine molecule off a T4 molecule and leaving you with a T3. I had insomnia for years. I finally got rid of it when I started taking a dose of thyroid as I went to bed. I now dose my thyroid 5 times a day, same with my adrenal. I split my vitamin tabs so that I can take a piece with every meal. I take my Selenium four times a day (it's quartered, as are most of my pills).... It seems like a lot of bother, but I can't even begin to tell you what a difference it has made in the way I feel. For some folks it works great to take thyroid just once in the morning... but for some of us we need it spread out more.... I may turn out to work as well for you as it did for me.... Topper () On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:35:53 -0000 " Lynda Illingsworth " writes: > , > I take armour first thing in the morning. Cortef at 8.00am, 11am, > 2pm and 5pm (but have been taking cortef for only 2 weeks and this > has not affected my sleep pattern) > Basal temperature (taken on waking) 97, 11am 97.4, 3pm 97.2 > Pulse varies widely - anything from 64 to 88 > Breathing and sinusitis has improved since being on cortef. > I also take magnesium, vit e, multi b after breakfast and after > dinner > Thanks > Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 Lynda, Your basals are saying that you are hypo. and the later day temps are saying that you have weak adrenals. Can you try something? Split your Thyroid into quarters... take a quarter when you wake... a quarter when you go to bed... and the other two spaced during the day.... Sublingually (to rule out absorption and digestion concerns).... It's going to spread the dosage out to be more even, your body won't do such a cycle. Are you taking any Selenium? It helps immensely with conversion of T4 to T3. To give you a bit of info so my suggestions make more sense. When we take the Armour the T3 hits us pretty quick.. but within four hours it's all used up and we're on our own. From that point our body has to convert T4 to T3 (T4 is the storage hormone, T3 is what our bodies mostly use, some of our organs do use T4.. but mostly it's T3) If you dose your Armour just once a day and your body isn't good at conversion.. that leaves you pretty hard up the rest of the day. If you split up the dose you aren't taking any more hormone... you're just spreading the T3 out more so that your body gets more use out of it. Between doses, or if your body needs more T3 than what you have available, it starts converting. The selenium helps with that, pulling an iodine molecule off a T4 molecule and leaving you with a T3. I had insomnia for years. I finally got rid of it when I started taking a dose of thyroid as I went to bed. I now dose my thyroid 5 times a day, same with my adrenal. I split my vitamin tabs so that I can take a piece with every meal. I take my Selenium four times a day (it's quartered, as are most of my pills).... It seems like a lot of bother, but I can't even begin to tell you what a difference it has made in the way I feel. For some folks it works great to take thyroid just once in the morning... but for some of us we need it spread out more.... I may turn out to work as well for you as it did for me.... Topper () On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:35:53 -0000 " Lynda Illingsworth " writes: > , > I take armour first thing in the morning. Cortef at 8.00am, 11am, > 2pm and 5pm (but have been taking cortef for only 2 weeks and this > has not affected my sleep pattern) > Basal temperature (taken on waking) 97, 11am 97.4, 3pm 97.2 > Pulse varies widely - anything from 64 to 88 > Breathing and sinusitis has improved since being on cortef. > I also take magnesium, vit e, multi b after breakfast and after > dinner > Thanks > Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 Lynda, Your basals are saying that you are hypo. and the later day temps are saying that you have weak adrenals. Can you try something? Split your Thyroid into quarters... take a quarter when you wake... a quarter when you go to bed... and the other two spaced during the day.... Sublingually (to rule out absorption and digestion concerns).... It's going to spread the dosage out to be more even, your body won't do such a cycle. Are you taking any Selenium? It helps immensely with conversion of T4 to T3. To give you a bit of info so my suggestions make more sense. When we take the Armour the T3 hits us pretty quick.. but within four hours it's all used up and we're on our own. From that point our body has to convert T4 to T3 (T4 is the storage hormone, T3 is what our bodies mostly use, some of our organs do use T4.. but mostly it's T3) If you dose your Armour just once a day and your body isn't good at conversion.. that leaves you pretty hard up the rest of the day. If you split up the dose you aren't taking any more hormone... you're just spreading the T3 out more so that your body gets more use out of it. Between doses, or if your body needs more T3 than what you have available, it starts converting. The selenium helps with that, pulling an iodine molecule off a T4 molecule and leaving you with a T3. I had insomnia for years. I finally got rid of it when I started taking a dose of thyroid as I went to bed. I now dose my thyroid 5 times a day, same with my adrenal. I split my vitamin tabs so that I can take a piece with every meal. I take my Selenium four times a day (it's quartered, as are most of my pills).... It seems like a lot of bother, but I can't even begin to tell you what a difference it has made in the way I feel. For some folks it works great to take thyroid just once in the morning... but for some of us we need it spread out more.... I may turn out to work as well for you as it did for me.... Topper () On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:35:53 -0000 " Lynda Illingsworth " writes: > , > I take armour first thing in the morning. Cortef at 8.00am, 11am, > 2pm and 5pm (but have been taking cortef for only 2 weeks and this > has not affected my sleep pattern) > Basal temperature (taken on waking) 97, 11am 97.4, 3pm 97.2 > Pulse varies widely - anything from 64 to 88 > Breathing and sinusitis has improved since being on cortef. > I also take magnesium, vit e, multi b after breakfast and after > dinner > Thanks > Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 Lynda said, I have just realised that one of the symptoms that has returned - and always does seem to return when my thyroid is not right - is excess stomach acid and heartburn. The last few nights I have had acid come right up into my mouth. Also, throughout the day I get these choking episodes. Feels like the back of my throat - in the tonsil area - closes up and I choke on my saliva Dear Loopies, Is this a symptom of Adrenal problems?? I have the bad acid all the time too. With the Hasimoto's Thyroid. Can you tell me what to do to counteract this condition besides OTC pills. Do we replenish the Adrenals with something?? Please forgive my rather dumb questions, but everything is new to me yet. Thanks so much for your support. Hugggs. Myrlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 , You swallow your multi-vitamins and minerals.. they all need to interact with the chemicals in the food you eat.. they have to go through the digestive system.... Selenium... you shouldn't be doing more than about 400 to 600 mcg a day... over that and I read there are side effects. I only take thyroid and adrenal under my tongue, everything else goes into the tummy with food and/or water. I don't take Isocort, I'm doing a Natural Desiccated Adrenal from Nutri-Meds, there are others here, though, that are taking Isocort.. they can fill you in on that...... Topper () On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:48:12 EST Ferd31366@... writes: > , > > Okay I can do that! I am taking about 5 selenium pills a day due > to my > fillings in my mouth so I take a whole pill 5 time a day anyway. > The > multivitamin thing NO WAY they are so nasty I have to swallow. I > have not even ordered > the Glandulars at this point. I have been taking a product called > T-100 which > is testosterone. I take a muli B complex and L-Tyrosine along with > DHEA. GLA > ,Coconut oil, extra vitamin C st. s wort and T-3. > > I am still doing a lot of reading on all this and trying different > things. > > I would like to know more about this Isocort. What all is in it and > how it > works. Actually been reading about that today. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 , Maybe explain that your nerves are really sensitive and it's like having a sunburn... everyone can relate to that.... a slap on a sunburn hurts like the dickens..... but when you don't have a sunburn, it's not as bad. Topper () On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:51:42 EST Ferd31366@... writes: > Also, does anyone else have a problem when someone jokingly smacks > you on the > rear and it hurts more then it should? If so how do I explain to > people it really hurts me and its not funny. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 , Maybe explain that your nerves are really sensitive and it's like having a sunburn... everyone can relate to that.... a slap on a sunburn hurts like the dickens..... but when you don't have a sunburn, it's not as bad. Topper () On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:51:42 EST Ferd31366@... writes: > Also, does anyone else have a problem when someone jokingly smacks > you on the > rear and it hurts more then it should? If so how do I explain to > people it really hurts me and its not funny. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 , Maybe explain that your nerves are really sensitive and it's like having a sunburn... everyone can relate to that.... a slap on a sunburn hurts like the dickens..... but when you don't have a sunburn, it's not as bad. Topper () On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:51:42 EST Ferd31366@... writes: > Also, does anyone else have a problem when someone jokingly smacks > you on the > rear and it hurts more then it should? If so how do I explain to > people it really hurts me and its not funny. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 I get them from Nutri-Meds. It's Natural Desiccated Adrenal Glands.. from cows... Been on it since last February... Thanks to it, and DHEA I actually have 'feelings' now and react to things... I don't just sit when something happens I get mad at things that I should be mad at and cry or laugh, as the situation requires... I was such a Mona about everything, no reactions, just sitting.... but crying all the time.... I still cry... but not all the time... and I'm back to cussing when I'm pissed and laughing out loud at jokes.... Definite improvement! Topper () On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:50:14 EST Ferd31366@... writes: > , > > Okay I was thinking you can really taste some nasty things for you > health! > LOL What are you taking for you adrenal support? > > > > > A Proud member of the Piggy Club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 I'm taking Twin Labs Natural thyroid tabs now.... I get them from Mexico... before that I was taking Natural thyroid from Nutri-Meds... I did great on both... I got a chance to get the tabs from Mexico for really cheap so I'm on those until I can't get anymore.... I'm on 2-1/2 grain per day right now.... 2 grain tabs cut into quarters.... 5 quarters taken a day. I'm borderline hyper, showing symptoms again today... I may cut back a bit 5 one day and 4 the next..... that would average me out at 2-1/4 grain per day.... Not sure what you mean by " take them all " .... Topper () On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:41:12 EST Ferd31366@... writes: > , > are you on all this plus Armour or synthroid? > can I take them all? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 Correction Twin-Caps Labs.. they're located in New York.... Topper () On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:37:06 -0600 topper2@... writes: > I'm taking Twin Labs Natural thyroid tabs now.... I get them from > Mexico... before that I was taking Natural thyroid from > Nutri-Meds... I > did great on both... I got a chance to get the tabs from Mexico for > really cheap so I'm on those until I can't get anymore.... > I'm on 2-1/2 grain per day right now.... 2 grain tabs cut into > quarters.... 5 quarters taken a day. > I'm borderline hyper, showing symptoms again today... I may cut back > a bit 5 one day and 4 the next..... that would average me out at > 2-1/4 grain per day.... > Not sure what you mean by " take them all " .... > > Topper () Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 Correction Twin-Caps Labs.. they're located in New York.... Topper () On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:37:06 -0600 topper2@... writes: > I'm taking Twin Labs Natural thyroid tabs now.... I get them from > Mexico... before that I was taking Natural thyroid from > Nutri-Meds... I > did great on both... I got a chance to get the tabs from Mexico for > really cheap so I'm on those until I can't get anymore.... > I'm on 2-1/2 grain per day right now.... 2 grain tabs cut into > quarters.... 5 quarters taken a day. > I'm borderline hyper, showing symptoms again today... I may cut back > a bit 5 one day and 4 the next..... that would average me out at > 2-1/4 grain per day.... > Not sure what you mean by " take them all " .... > > Topper () Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 I understand that but I get it before I go to bed when I am sitting upright. Lynda ----- Original Message ----- From: topper2@... The problem with acid reflux... when it comes up into your throat when you are laying down... has to do with the flap/door when the esophagus and stomach meet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Hello briggy1997, b> I ordered " Adrenal Support " from Nature's Sunshine, who's products I b> trust. I was reading the ingredients and it has " adrenal glandular b> substance " from New Zealand. Does anyone know what this substance is b> or have experience with real adreanal therapy with other products? b> I have to say I'm afraid to take it. I am on an adrenal support which contains adrenals, spleen, stomach and parotid glands from US bovine sources -it has made a fantastic difference to my life and the US has a bigger problem with cows than New Zealand [though the US is still very very very low risk] -- Best regards, Alison http://www.alisonashwell.com mailto:alison.ashwell@... new work uploaded http://www.artwanted.com/alisonashwell http://www.voodoochilli.net/artists/alisonashwell/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Hello briggy1997, b> I ordered " Adrenal Support " from Nature's Sunshine, who's products I b> trust. I was reading the ingredients and it has " adrenal glandular b> substance " from New Zealand. Does anyone know what this substance is b> or have experience with real adreanal therapy with other products? b> I have to say I'm afraid to take it. I am on an adrenal support which contains adrenals, spleen, stomach and parotid glands from US bovine sources -it has made a fantastic difference to my life and the US has a bigger problem with cows than New Zealand [though the US is still very very very low risk] -- Best regards, Alison http://www.alisonashwell.com mailto:alison.ashwell@... new work uploaded http://www.artwanted.com/alisonashwell http://www.voodoochilli.net/artists/alisonashwell/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 The adrenal support supplements that are made from either whole adrenal glands or from the adrenal cortex of the gland provide you with low dose adrenal hormones, something you really need if you are low adrenal from hypothyroidism. There are many herbs out there that are supposed to help. These include Ashwagahnda, gensing, Licorice, Maca, Gugulipid, and Schizandra Fruit. There are more, but I can't think of them now. Gensing, Maca and Gugulipid tend to be stimulatory, which may not be helpful for some exhausted adrenals. Licorice root is the only herb that will definitely cause an increase in adrenal hormones. It does this by slowing the removal of cortisol by the liver, thus keeping it in the system longer. To use Licorice root to support your adrenals, take one teaspoon in a tea 4 times a day, evenly spaced with the last dose around dinner. Do not use deglycerized, which has the active ingredient removed. Do not stop suddenly after using it for a while and be regular about taking it. I personally had little luck with the herbs, except Licorice. You can also purchase IsoCort, which is made from the adrenal cortex of sheep. It contains some immune boosters too. It has 2.5 mg hydrocortisone per tablet. The average hypo person with adrenal fatigue will need 10 to 20mg a day. The same applies to being even and regular about doses. The animal extracts provide you with the hormones you need that help the adrenals rebuild their stores and to rest. The herbs only give support but will not supply materials for your adrenals to make hormones. In adrenal fatigue, it is usually the adrenal cortex that becomes fatigued and the rest of the gland is working fine. So, when you buy whole glandulars, you are getting the whole gland and thus some hormones you don't need, but it is usually not a problem. Your own adrenals will drop production to compensate. The adrenal cortex produces around 40 different cortisones and so that is why the glandulars are helpful. You can also go see a doctor and see if he/she will prescribe hydrocortisone, which is the main cortisone that you need in adrenal fatigue. You can also use synthetic cortisones, like prednisone. You will need 10 to 20mg of hydrocortisone a day. You will need less of prednisone because it is cleared from the body much more slowly. Adrenal fatigue takes from 4 months to 2 years to recover from. You must rest and take care of yourself and eat frequent small meals. Avoid sugar and caffiene and they overwork the adrenals. If thyroid therapy is not high enough, adrenal will never go away. Be prepared that you might need supplementation for a long time. As long as you keep the dose below 20mg, it will not be harmful. You will also have to get off of it slowly to give your adrenals time to adjust. Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 The adrenal support supplements that are made from either whole adrenal glands or from the adrenal cortex of the gland provide you with low dose adrenal hormones, something you really need if you are low adrenal from hypothyroidism. There are many herbs out there that are supposed to help. These include Ashwagahnda, gensing, Licorice, Maca, Gugulipid, and Schizandra Fruit. There are more, but I can't think of them now. Gensing, Maca and Gugulipid tend to be stimulatory, which may not be helpful for some exhausted adrenals. Licorice root is the only herb that will definitely cause an increase in adrenal hormones. It does this by slowing the removal of cortisol by the liver, thus keeping it in the system longer. To use Licorice root to support your adrenals, take one teaspoon in a tea 4 times a day, evenly spaced with the last dose around dinner. Do not use deglycerized, which has the active ingredient removed. Do not stop suddenly after using it for a while and be regular about taking it. I personally had little luck with the herbs, except Licorice. You can also purchase IsoCort, which is made from the adrenal cortex of sheep. It contains some immune boosters too. It has 2.5 mg hydrocortisone per tablet. The average hypo person with adrenal fatigue will need 10 to 20mg a day. The same applies to being even and regular about doses. The animal extracts provide you with the hormones you need that help the adrenals rebuild their stores and to rest. The herbs only give support but will not supply materials for your adrenals to make hormones. In adrenal fatigue, it is usually the adrenal cortex that becomes fatigued and the rest of the gland is working fine. So, when you buy whole glandulars, you are getting the whole gland and thus some hormones you don't need, but it is usually not a problem. Your own adrenals will drop production to compensate. The adrenal cortex produces around 40 different cortisones and so that is why the glandulars are helpful. You can also go see a doctor and see if he/she will prescribe hydrocortisone, which is the main cortisone that you need in adrenal fatigue. You can also use synthetic cortisones, like prednisone. You will need 10 to 20mg of hydrocortisone a day. You will need less of prednisone because it is cleared from the body much more slowly. Adrenal fatigue takes from 4 months to 2 years to recover from. You must rest and take care of yourself and eat frequent small meals. Avoid sugar and caffiene and they overwork the adrenals. If thyroid therapy is not high enough, adrenal will never go away. Be prepared that you might need supplementation for a long time. As long as you keep the dose below 20mg, it will not be harmful. You will also have to get off of it slowly to give your adrenals time to adjust. Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 The adrenal support supplements that are made from either whole adrenal glands or from the adrenal cortex of the gland provide you with low dose adrenal hormones, something you really need if you are low adrenal from hypothyroidism. There are many herbs out there that are supposed to help. These include Ashwagahnda, gensing, Licorice, Maca, Gugulipid, and Schizandra Fruit. There are more, but I can't think of them now. Gensing, Maca and Gugulipid tend to be stimulatory, which may not be helpful for some exhausted adrenals. Licorice root is the only herb that will definitely cause an increase in adrenal hormones. It does this by slowing the removal of cortisol by the liver, thus keeping it in the system longer. To use Licorice root to support your adrenals, take one teaspoon in a tea 4 times a day, evenly spaced with the last dose around dinner. Do not use deglycerized, which has the active ingredient removed. Do not stop suddenly after using it for a while and be regular about taking it. I personally had little luck with the herbs, except Licorice. You can also purchase IsoCort, which is made from the adrenal cortex of sheep. It contains some immune boosters too. It has 2.5 mg hydrocortisone per tablet. The average hypo person with adrenal fatigue will need 10 to 20mg a day. The same applies to being even and regular about doses. The animal extracts provide you with the hormones you need that help the adrenals rebuild their stores and to rest. The herbs only give support but will not supply materials for your adrenals to make hormones. In adrenal fatigue, it is usually the adrenal cortex that becomes fatigued and the rest of the gland is working fine. So, when you buy whole glandulars, you are getting the whole gland and thus some hormones you don't need, but it is usually not a problem. Your own adrenals will drop production to compensate. The adrenal cortex produces around 40 different cortisones and so that is why the glandulars are helpful. You can also go see a doctor and see if he/she will prescribe hydrocortisone, which is the main cortisone that you need in adrenal fatigue. You can also use synthetic cortisones, like prednisone. You will need 10 to 20mg of hydrocortisone a day. You will need less of prednisone because it is cleared from the body much more slowly. Adrenal fatigue takes from 4 months to 2 years to recover from. You must rest and take care of yourself and eat frequent small meals. Avoid sugar and caffiene and they overwork the adrenals. If thyroid therapy is not high enough, adrenal will never go away. Be prepared that you might need supplementation for a long time. As long as you keep the dose below 20mg, it will not be harmful. You will also have to get off of it slowly to give your adrenals time to adjust. Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 This is the description from the web site and the bottle label. It says bovine. Dietary Supplement Recommended Usage Take one capsule with a meal twice daily. Ingredients Supplement Facts Serving Size 1 Capsule Amount Per Capsule %Daily Value Vitamin C (as ascorbic acid) 25 mg 40% Thiamine Mononitrate (as Vitamin B1) 10 mg 670% Riboflavin Phospaytes (including riboflavin-5-phosphate - as Vitamin B2) 5 mg 300% Vitamin B6 (as pyridoxal-5-phosphate) 5 mg 250% Pantothenic Acid (as d-calcium pantothenate 45 mg 450% Magnesium (as citrate) 10 mg 2% Zinc (as citrate) 5 mg 35% Potassium (as citrate) 5 mg * Proprietary Blend 240 mg * Adrenal Substance, Schizandra Fruit (Schisandra chinensis), Borage Oil (Borago officinalis), Licorice Root (Glycyrrhiza glabra), Protease Blend. *Daily Value not established Other Ingredients: Cellulose (plant fiber), gelatin, and water. Notes This bottle was sealed for your protection. Do not use if inner seal is missing or damaged. *These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Miscellaneous Information •Adrenal Substance from New Zealand •Helps Support Adrenal Function •Supports Body's Ability to Regulate Stress* The adrenal glands are the primary organ system for handling the negative effects of emotional, mental and physical stress, including fatigue and muscular weakness. Adrenal Support is formulated with adrenal glandular substance from New Zealand plus a synergistic blend of vitamins, minerals, enzymes and adaptogenic herbs to support and strengthen the adrenal glands.* Nature's Sunshine uses natural source materials in its products that are subject to color variation. ©2002 Nature's Sunshine Products, Inc. Product of U.S.A. Adrenal Support [Glandular, Nervous] is a synergistic blend of vitamins, minerals, enzymes and adaptogenic herbs designed to support and strengthen the adrenal glands. Adrenal Support is also formulated with an adrenal glandular substance from New Zealand. The ingredients in Adrenal Support may offer help in supporting adrenal functions and maintaining health. The B vitamins, for example, support most of the biochemical processes in the body, notably energy production. Vitamins B1 and B2 are necessary for helping the body endure emotional stress and maintaining the cardiovascular system. Adrenal Support combines the most bioavailable and biological-terrain- friendly forms of these vital nutrients. Each capsule contains bovine adrenal glandular substance, generous amounts of vitamins B1, B2, B6, pantothenic acid and vitamin C, plus zinc, protease, borage oil powder, licorice root and schizandra fruit. Take 1 capsule twice daily with food or as directed by your health care practitioner > It's basically the same as what I'm taking... I'm on a whole descanted > adrenal glandular... freeze dried and process just as natural thyroid > is.... > > Are there any other ingredients listed? and do you know what animal the > gland comes from.. it's mostly from sheep or cows.. mine is from cows > (bovine). > > Also, what is the size of the tabs, as in amount of active glandular? > > Topper () > > On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:33:27 -0000 " briggy1997 " <briggy1997@y...> > writes: > Hello. I believe that I have an adrenal deficiency due to a > previously untreated thyroid problem. > > I ordered " Adrenal Support " from Nature's Sunshine, who's products I > trust. I was reading the ingredients and it has " adrenal glandular > substance " from New Zealand. Does anyone know what this substance is > or have experience with real adreanal therapy with other products? > > I have to say I'm afraid to take it. > > Thank you for your input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Is taking adrenal support o.k. for Hashi's? I think that may be what is going on, not hypo as orignally suspected. I will find out more late next week. > The adrenal support supplements that are made from either whole > adrenal glands or from the adrenal cortex of the gland provide you > with low dose adrenal hormones, something you really need if you are > low adrenal from hypothyroidism. > > There are many herbs out there that are supposed to help. These > include Ashwagahnda, gensing, Licorice, Maca, Gugulipid, and > Schizandra Fruit. There are more, but I can't think of them now. > Gensing, Maca and Gugulipid tend to be stimulatory, which may not be > helpful for some exhausted adrenals. Licorice root is the only herb > that will definitely cause an increase in adrenal hormones. It does > this by slowing the removal of cortisol by the liver, thus keeping > it in the system longer. To use Licorice root to support your > adrenals, take one teaspoon in a tea 4 times a day, evenly spaced > with the last dose around dinner. Do not use deglycerized, which has > the active ingredient removed. Do not stop suddenly after using it > for a while and be regular about taking it. > > I personally had little luck with the herbs, except Licorice. You > can also purchase IsoCort, which is made from the adrenal cortex of > sheep. It contains some immune boosters too. It has 2.5 mg > hydrocortisone per tablet. The average hypo person with adrenal > fatigue will need 10 to 20mg a day. The same applies to being even > and regular about doses. > > The animal extracts provide you with the hormones you need that help > the adrenals rebuild their stores and to rest. The herbs only give > support but will not supply materials for your adrenals to make > hormones. > > In adrenal fatigue, it is usually the adrenal cortex that becomes > fatigued and the rest of the gland is working fine. So, when you buy > whole glandulars, you are getting the whole gland and thus some > hormones you don't need, but it is usually not a problem. Your own > adrenals will drop production to compensate. The adrenal cortex > produces around 40 different cortisones and so that is why the > glandulars are helpful. You can also go see a doctor and see if > he/she will prescribe hydrocortisone, which is the main cortisone > that you need in adrenal fatigue. You can also use synthetic > cortisones, like prednisone. You will need 10 to 20mg of > hydrocortisone a day. You will need less of prednisone because it is > cleared from the body much more slowly. > > Adrenal fatigue takes from 4 months to 2 years to recover from. You > must rest and take care of yourself and eat frequent small meals. > Avoid sugar and caffiene and they overwork the adrenals. If thyroid > therapy is not high enough, adrenal will never go away. Be prepared > that you might need supplementation for a long time. As long as you > keep the dose below 20mg, it will not be harmful. You will also have > to get off of it slowly to give your adrenals time to adjust. > > Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 I think the New Zealand product is dessicated sheep adrenals. I use Isocort and it works great. Blessings, Debbie K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Don't worry about mad cow. If that were a problem, it would be in the brain/nervous system tissues, not in the adrenals. Blessings, Debbie K. -----Original Message-----From: briggy1997 Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 1:51 PMTo: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: Re: Adrenal SupportThank you for your quick response. I didn't even think about the mad cow issues, if is even cow "parts". What symptoms did it releive for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Most definitely. Any thyroid problem, hypo, hyper or hashi's will put stress on the adrenals. I am hashi's and would not be without it. Blessings, Debbie K. -----Original Message-----From: briggy1997 Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 2:39 PMTo: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: Re: Adrenal SupportIs taking adrenal support o.k. for Hashi's? I think that may be what is going on, not hypo as orignally suspected. I will find out more late next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Most definitely. Any thyroid problem, hypo, hyper or hashi's will put stress on the adrenals. I am hashi's and would not be without it. Blessings, Debbie K. -----Original Message-----From: briggy1997 Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 2:39 PMTo: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: Re: Adrenal SupportIs taking adrenal support o.k. for Hashi's? I think that may be what is going on, not hypo as orignally suspected. I will find out more late next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Most definitely. Any thyroid problem, hypo, hyper or hashi's will put stress on the adrenals. I am hashi's and would not be without it. Blessings, Debbie K. -----Original Message-----From: briggy1997 Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 2:39 PMTo: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: Re: Adrenal SupportIs taking adrenal support o.k. for Hashi's? I think that may be what is going on, not hypo as orignally suspected. I will find out more late next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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