Re: IS this Normal??

[Guest guest]

--- I am always amazed at those who start Phase I and say how easy

they find it to be. I can hardly wait to get thru Phs I and I am

only on Day 3...I am feeling weak and jittery and find I need to get

out of the main part of the house so I don't see anyone else's

dinner plates with their carbs and sugar!! Will these cravings

really end by the end of week 2?? I can hardly wait to start Phase

II because I want a piece of fruit more than anything!!! I am also

missing my raw carrots as mid afternoon snack. I understand why I

can't have them just yet(sugar)but boy I am going to look like a

piece of celery soon(green not slim!)LOL. BTW for what's it worth

here: my 2 cents worth on the posted joke(which I've read before and

enjoyed just as much then)we need to lighten up people MY goodness

we should not be chastizing one for posting a joke here! Humour

helps us cope with all sorts of things and if there was ever a time

we needed to have a good chuckle its during the stress of dieting!!

In South-Beach-Diet-Getting-It-Right , Barb and Tim

<tb.edwards@s...> wrote:

> Hi there..I was just wondering, if anyone could add some wisdom to

my little knowledge..My husband and I are doing the South Beach way

of Life together...We were both very successful with phase 1.

> My question is with phase 2 we are eating only what we are suppose

to and I am still worried that we are eating to many carbs..

> Today Tim had two small sugar free bran muffins I made (no flour,

just bran) . For lunch he had an omelette with two pieces of whole

wheat bread and a large tossed salad.

> For supper he had one large burger with whole wheat bun and large

green salad. Is this too much carbs for the first week of phase

2....??

> For breakfast I had 1 cp. of oatmeal. For lunch I had a nicely

cooked salmon, just caught fresh by my son in law..For supper I had

large burger on whole wheat bun, salad and skim milk..

> Are we over doing it with the carbs..I am just worried we will not

continue to lose.

> We also are not eating any sugar..I am proud of how we are

doing....and hope to have some impute from you gals..

> Also another question..We love pizza...I had a friend in a condo

next to ours in Florida that made pizza with whole wheat crust..She

used her bread machine and just took it out at a certain time and

let it rise I think, but am not sure...My bread machine has a pizza

dough recipe using white bread. My question is, can I do the same

recipe using whole wheat flour with no white flour and if so when

would I take it out and once out what would I do with it...Thanks

for anyone that can help..Barb

> <> < <>< <>< Fill my Mouth with Worthwhile Stuff<>< <>< <><

> And Nudge Me When I have said enough

[Guest guest]

--- I am always amazed at those who start Phase I and say how easy

they find it to be. I can hardly wait to get thru Phs I and I am

only on Day 3...I am feeling weak and jittery and find I need to get

out of the main part of the house so I don't see anyone else's

dinner plates with their carbs and sugar!! Will these cravings

really end by the end of week 2?? I can hardly wait to start Phase

II because I want a piece of fruit more than anything!!! I am also

missing my raw carrots as mid afternoon snack. I understand why I

can't have them just yet(sugar)but boy I am going to look like a

piece of celery soon(green not slim!)LOL. BTW for what's it worth

here: my 2 cents worth on the posted joke(which I've read before and

enjoyed just as much then)we need to lighten up people MY goodness

we should not be chastizing one for posting a joke here! Humour

helps us cope with all sorts of things and if there was ever a time

we needed to have a good chuckle its during the stress of dieting!!

In South-Beach-Diet-Getting-It-Right , Barb and Tim

<tb.edwards@s...> wrote:

> Hi there..I was just wondering, if anyone could add some wisdom to

my little knowledge..My husband and I are doing the South Beach way

of Life together...We were both very successful with phase 1.

> My question is with phase 2 we are eating only what we are suppose

to and I am still worried that we are eating to many carbs..

> Today Tim had two small sugar free bran muffins I made (no flour,

just bran) . For lunch he had an omelette with two pieces of whole

wheat bread and a large tossed salad.

> For supper he had one large burger with whole wheat bun and large

green salad. Is this too much carbs for the first week of phase

2....??

> For breakfast I had 1 cp. of oatmeal. For lunch I had a nicely

cooked salmon, just caught fresh by my son in law..For supper I had

large burger on whole wheat bun, salad and skim milk..

> Are we over doing it with the carbs..I am just worried we will not

continue to lose.

> We also are not eating any sugar..I am proud of how we are

doing....and hope to have some impute from you gals..

> Also another question..We love pizza...I had a friend in a condo

next to ours in Florida that made pizza with whole wheat crust..She

used her bread machine and just took it out at a certain time and

let it rise I think, but am not sure...My bread machine has a pizza

dough recipe using white bread. My question is, can I do the same

recipe using whole wheat flour with no white flour and if so when

would I take it out and once out what would I do with it...Thanks

for anyone that can help..Barb

> <> < <>< <>< Fill my Mouth with Worthwhile Stuff<>< <>< <><

> And Nudge Me When I have said enough

[Guest guest]

---OMG I feel dooomed already! Readiing this(and thanks I know you

are trying to help)and having another look a phase one in the book,

all I can say is HELP! I hate beans, most veggies & not an onion or

pepper lover at all. My veggies of choice seem to be the ones off

the Phase I list(carrots beets corn)I am making a whole hearted

attempt to consume the brocculi & cauliflower but holy cow, it sure

wreaks havoc on the " system " (GAS)

(but I am forcing myself to eat lots of salad)devilled eggs(I will

die first) chick peas/ hummus (ditto)so then we get to lunch not

really a fan of fish but I am trying to " acquire " more taste for it

(like salmon tuna cod fish that is about it)This is day 3 of Phase

One and I am already sick of eggs. 2 a day for 3 days...more than

I'd normally eat all year so you can see I am in a pickle!(pun

intended here!)How does one get to the point of liking this. I guess

I am more of a carb addict than I ever thought cuz right now I'd

kill for fruit anda bowl of cereal this a.m.!!And how much sugar

free jello is allowed to be consumed in one day??(ricotta cheese I

have never tasted but when I priced it in the store yesterday I

amost died from shock!It's so expensive but I am willing to give it

a try!

In South-Beach-Diet-Getting-It-Right , sewsue36@a...

wrote:

> In a message dated 5/18/2004 11:22:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> bartsgranmama@y... writes:

> ...I am feeling weak and jittery and find I need to get

> out of the main part of the house so I don't see anyone else's

> dinner plates with their carbs and sugar

> Make sure you eat some protein at this point. No need to feel weak

and

> jittery. Make some deviled eggs, hummus, try sauteeing beans with

some olive oil,

> onions , green pepper and a little crushed tomato. Make sure you

have lots

> available to eat esp when feeling yukky.

[Guest guest]

---OMG I feel dooomed already! Readiing this(and thanks I know you are trying to help)and having another look a phase one in the book, all I can say is HELP! I hate beans, most veggies & not an onion or pepper lover at all. My veggies of choice seem to be the ones off

As someone who has been eating low to moderate carb for about 1 1/2

years, I can tell you that changing your way of eating means being

open to trying new foods and changing the mindset of "I hate ____."

Because, unfortunately, unless you try new foods and put variety into

your meals, you will not succeed, and will backslide to the foods you

"think" you love.

One thing I noticed is that my tastes changed a bit once I got the

sugars out of my system. Things that had tasted bitter before didn't

taste that way any longer.

I tricked myself into learning to like things like broccoli and

cauliflower and green beans by adding lots of cheese and/or butter/

margarine and herbs to them. Yes, I know SBD doesn't allow unlimited

cheese (full fat), and I haven't completely read the book yet, but

there must be something you CAN do that will help you transition into

eating different foods. As far as the broccoli/cauliflower gas

problem, you can buy Beano, or you can just keep eating, knowing your

system will get more used to the fiber eventually. LOL!

Maybe if you post what kind of veggies you think you don't like,

and others will have specific suggestions to make it easier. Just

a thought...

As for ricotta, it's not horribly expensive here, or at least

doesn't seem that way to me. The exception is when you buy the

organic type. Of course, expensive is kind of subjective, so who

knows. :-)

I'm not a fan of fish either. I like salmon and tuna, and grouper.

I don't think you have to learn to like all types, but just be

open to it. Some recipes will probably help. Something simple to

prepare but with a good flavor.

Good luck.

Cheryl

[Guest guest]

---OMG I feel dooomed already! Readiing this(and thanks I know you are trying to help)and having another look a phase one in the book, all I can say is HELP! I hate beans, most veggies & not an onion or pepper lover at all. My veggies of choice seem to be the ones off

As someone who has been eating low to moderate carb for about 1 1/2

years, I can tell you that changing your way of eating means being

open to trying new foods and changing the mindset of "I hate ____."

Because, unfortunately, unless you try new foods and put variety into

your meals, you will not succeed, and will backslide to the foods you

"think" you love.

One thing I noticed is that my tastes changed a bit once I got the

sugars out of my system. Things that had tasted bitter before didn't

taste that way any longer.

I tricked myself into learning to like things like broccoli and

cauliflower and green beans by adding lots of cheese and/or butter/

margarine and herbs to them. Yes, I know SBD doesn't allow unlimited

cheese (full fat), and I haven't completely read the book yet, but

there must be something you CAN do that will help you transition into

eating different foods. As far as the broccoli/cauliflower gas

problem, you can buy Beano, or you can just keep eating, knowing your

system will get more used to the fiber eventually. LOL!

Maybe if you post what kind of veggies you think you don't like,

and others will have specific suggestions to make it easier. Just

a thought...

As for ricotta, it's not horribly expensive here, or at least

doesn't seem that way to me. The exception is when you buy the

organic type. Of course, expensive is kind of subjective, so who

knows. :-)

I'm not a fan of fish either. I like salmon and tuna, and grouper.

I don't think you have to learn to like all types, but just be

open to it. Some recipes will probably help. Something simple to

prepare but with a good flavor.

Good luck.

Cheryl

[Guest guest]

--- Oh I know Cheryl, that mindset is a huge problem for me. I guess

it comes from a lifetime eating pattern of just not liking certain

foods. I don't think I am alone here. There must be many people who

just won't eat certain foods no matter how much doctors diet books

people etc try to convince us we should. I realize I have to work

around that and eat the ones I do enjoy but as for trying to acquire

a taste for foods I have hated my entire life, I don't think that is

going to change...I know I run the risk of being bored quicker

eating foods I do like but lordy I don't think I can teach this old

dog that new trick of liking devilled eggs beans hummus etc LOL As

for the Ricotta, I am still looking around for a less expensive

Brand but it runs around 5.89 for a small 6-8 oz tub of it here.

There are numerous brands but they all seem comparable. How does

that price compare with USA??

> As someone who has been eating low to moderate carb for about 1 1/2

> years, I can tell you that changing your way of eating means being

> open to trying new foods and changing the mindset of " I hate ____. "

> Because, unfortunately, unless you try new foods and put variety

into

> your meals, you will not succeed, and will backslide to the foods

you

> " think " you love.

>

> One thing I noticed is that my tastes changed a bit once I got the

> sugars out of my system. Things that had tasted bitter before

didn't

> taste that way any longer.

>

> I tricked myself into learning to like things like broccoli and

> cauliflower and green beans by adding lots of cheese and/or butter/

> margarine and herbs to them. Yes, I know SBD doesn't allow

unlimited

> cheese (full fat), and I haven't completely read the book yet, but

> there must be something you CAN do that will help you transition

into

> eating different foods. As far as the broccoli/cauliflower gas

> problem, you can buy Beano, or you can just keep eating, knowing

your

> system will get more used to the fiber eventually. LOL!

>

> Maybe if you post what kind of veggies you think you don't like,

> and others will have specific suggestions to make it easier. Just

> a thought...

>

> As for ricotta, it's not horribly expensive here, or at least

> doesn't seem that way to me. The exception is when you buy the

> organic type. Of course, expensive is kind of subjective, so who

> knows. :-)

>

> I'm not a fan of fish either. I like salmon and tuna, and grouper.

> I don't think you have to learn to like all types, but just be

> open to it. Some recipes will probably help. Something simple to

> prepare but with a good flavor.

>

> Good luck.

> Cheryl

[Guest guest]

--- Oh I know Cheryl, that mindset is a huge problem for me. I guess

it comes from a lifetime eating pattern of just not liking certain

foods. I don't think I am alone here. There must be many people who

just won't eat certain foods no matter how much doctors diet books

people etc try to convince us we should. I realize I have to work

around that and eat the ones I do enjoy but as for trying to acquire

a taste for foods I have hated my entire life, I don't think that is

going to change...I know I run the risk of being bored quicker

eating foods I do like but lordy I don't think I can teach this old

dog that new trick of liking devilled eggs beans hummus etc LOL As

for the Ricotta, I am still looking around for a less expensive

Brand but it runs around 5.89 for a small 6-8 oz tub of it here.

There are numerous brands but they all seem comparable. How does

that price compare with USA??

> As someone who has been eating low to moderate carb for about 1 1/2

> years, I can tell you that changing your way of eating means being

> open to trying new foods and changing the mindset of " I hate ____. "

> Because, unfortunately, unless you try new foods and put variety

into

> your meals, you will not succeed, and will backslide to the foods

you

> " think " you love.

>

> One thing I noticed is that my tastes changed a bit once I got the

> sugars out of my system. Things that had tasted bitter before

didn't

> taste that way any longer.

>

> I tricked myself into learning to like things like broccoli and

> cauliflower and green beans by adding lots of cheese and/or butter/

> margarine and herbs to them. Yes, I know SBD doesn't allow

unlimited

> cheese (full fat), and I haven't completely read the book yet, but

> there must be something you CAN do that will help you transition

into

> eating different foods. As far as the broccoli/cauliflower gas

> problem, you can buy Beano, or you can just keep eating, knowing

your

> system will get more used to the fiber eventually. LOL!

>

> Maybe if you post what kind of veggies you think you don't like,

> and others will have specific suggestions to make it easier. Just

> a thought...

>

> As for ricotta, it's not horribly expensive here, or at least

> doesn't seem that way to me. The exception is when you buy the

> organic type. Of course, expensive is kind of subjective, so who

> knows. :-)

>

> I'm not a fan of fish either. I like salmon and tuna, and grouper.

> I don't think you have to learn to like all types, but just be

> open to it. Some recipes will probably help. Something simple to

> prepare but with a good flavor.

>

> Good luck.

> Cheryl

[Guest guest]

--- foods. I don't think I am alone here. There must be many people who just won't eat certain foods no matter how much doctors diet books people etc try to convince us we should. I realize I have to work

No one can convince you but yourself. Not a doctor or a book or me.

It IS your mindset that will stop you. There's no physical reason to

"hate" a food unless you're allergic to it. It's also the mindset that

will get you back up to your former weight (or above) if you allow

it to rule you.

As far as not liking a food, figure out why. Then find a way around it.

I hated deviled eggs, but figured out that it was because they were

bland. Spice them up, and yummy! I add lots of Tabasco to the yolks.

That seems expensive for ricotta. I usually pay about $4 for that size.

Have you checked other stores? Or maybe you're in an expensive area of

the US?

Cheryl

[Guest guest]

Deanne wrote:

> ---OMG I feel dooomed already! Readiing this(and thanks I know you

> are trying to help)and having another look a phase one in the book,

> all I can say is HELP! I hate beans, most veggies & not an onion or

> pepper lover at all. My veggies of choice seem to be the ones off

> the Phase I list(carrots beets corn)I am making a whole hearted

> attempt to consume the brocculi & cauliflower but holy cow, it sure

> wreaks havoc on the " system " (GAS)

> (but I am forcing myself to eat lots of salad)devilled eggs(I will

> die first) chick peas/ hummus (ditto)so then we get to lunch not

> really a fan of fish but I am trying to " acquire " more taste for it

> (like salmon tuna cod fish that is about it)This is day 3 of Phase

> One and I am already sick of eggs. 2 a day for 3 days...more than

> I'd normally eat all year so you can see I am in a pickle!(pun

> intended here!)How does one get to the point of liking this. I guess

> I am more of a carb addict than I ever thought cuz right now I'd

> kill for fruit anda bowl of cereal this a.m.!!And how much sugar

> free jello is allowed to be consumed in one day??(ricotta cheese I

> have never tasted but when I priced it in the store yesterday I

> amost died from shock!It's so expensive but I am willing to give it

> a try!

>

Sorry for breaking this down but it's the only way I can do it this

morning. LOL

As for Veggies, do you like cucumbers, tomatoes, mushrooms and

spinach? These are all acceptable veggies on Phase 1. V8 juice is also

good for your veggies.

I don't eat fish, never have, never will. I'm HIGHLY allergic to it.

I know that Dr. A said that it's good for you, but I'm taking the

approach of, if you can't stomach it, don't eat it. It'll just drive you

crazy and you'll fall off the beach. Try different meats such as lean

pork, chicken and turkey.

Eggs? You don't have to eat eggs for breakfast. You don't have to

eat breakfast foods for breakfast, try leftovers from the night before.

A good lean pork chop with some steamed veggies is very tasty for a

breakfast meal. LOL Me for one, I like eggs. I'll have a serving of

cereal or old fashioned oats maybe 2 times since I've been on the beach.

((49 days)) But I make mine different every day. Or should I say that

my husband and I make them different every day. This morning my hubby

made them for me. He used asparagus and goat cheese and made a very

tasty omelet for me. It was WONDERFUL.

Ricotta, I hate it. I find I don't like the texture of it at all. I

don't care HOW I blend it, mash it, puree it, it still feels gritty in

my mouth. So I just stay away from it. LOL As for Sugar Free Jello, you

can have up to 75 calories of it a day for snacks. I can't remember the

exact wording, but the book says somewhere that ((Paraphrasing here))

For evening snack you can have sugar free popsicle, sugar free jello

etc. as long as it doesn't exceed 75 calories. I'm sure someone else

could explain it better than me.

I hope this helps.

Terri B.

Creative Memories Consultant

Mom to Kali (7/24/03) and wife to Chris

[Guest guest]

--- I don't eat fish, never have, never will. I'm HIGHLY allergic to it. I know that Dr. A said that it's good for you, but I'm taking the

Wow! I doubt any doctor, Dr. A. included, would ever tell someone

to eat a food they are truly allergic to. That would be nuts!

--- approach of, if you can't stomach it, don't eat it. It'll just drive you crazy and you'll fall off the beach. Try different meats such as lean pork, chicken and turkey.

Boy, do we disagree. As someone who has tried many different diets

and weight loss schemes over the last forty years (I'll be 50 in--oh,

god--a week!), the one constant I've found is that unless I try new

foods, I do get bored and eventually fall back into my old ways. That

doesn't mean trying every food you detest. For example, I detest

okra to this day. I haven't tried it since I was in my 30s. Back then

I had it a couple of different ways, in something and breaded/fried.

Yuck! I don't need okra to keep the boredom away. But if all I had

eaten was salad after salad to get my veggies, I definitely would

have gotten bored. Particularly if I was like some friends of mine

and hated all the "extras" that are good on a salad: peppers, onions,

tomatoes, broccoli, cauliflower, beans,radishes, etc.

There are always going to be some foods that you'll never learn to

like, but trying new foods can open up a whole new world for you.

I still haven't found a love of asparagus, but periodically

I try it in a different way to see if it tastes better. As I said, often

it is the way something is cooked. Asparagus was always boiled at

my childhood home. Yuck! It's better steamed, but still mushy to

me. A friend said to bake it, but I haven't tried it yet.

--- Eggs? You don't have to eat eggs for breakfast. You don't have to eat breakfast foods for breakfast, try leftovers from the night before. A good lean pork chop with some steamed veggies is very tasty for a

That is something I've never been able to eat for breakfast. Meat is one

of the things I don't enjoy when I first get up. Eggs are okay, still not

appetizing to me. But most of the time I just plug them in and get on

with it. I'm really working on the food as fuel thing instead of just

the "what do I want/what will I enjoy the taste of"... in the a.m., at

least. LOL!

One thing I've noticed, and I don't know how old most of the listmembers

are, is that younger people always want to diet and lose weight for

something or someone or to look "better."

Older people often want to regain or keep their health, not that looking better

would be turned down. LOL!

The point is that dieting doesn't work, no matter what kind it is, unless

a person truly commits to changing the way he or she eats. And that means

changing the mindset. You said you've tried ricotta a lot of ways. That's

exactly the point. Trying. If you fail to like something or tolerate it,

don't eat it, but never rule out foods just because you used to hate them

or hated them when you ate them once/as a child/whatever.

Sorry. Don't mean to get on a soapbox here, but I'm really tired of people

telling me they hate veggies except for corn, potatoes and peas. LOL!

I've been told that at least twenty times in the last year, and I keep telling

them that I once felt the same way. Literally. Now I eat a whole range of

veggies including broccoli, cauliflower, peppers of all types, squashes,

beans (legumes, not technically veggie?), carrots (small amounts), onions,

radishes, lettuces (except I'm still not hot on raddichio unless it's a small

amount), corn (rarely and undercooked), peas (raw), tomatoes (plum

usually since I prefer them)... heck, I can't think of much I won't try

any more. LOL! Shows how much you can change if you want to.

Let's face it. If the diet is moderate carbs, those carbs should, for good

health, come from more than one "family." That means veggies AND whole

grains.

Okay, I'm done. And back to my real work of writing. Agree or disagree... it's

your loss... or gain.

Cheryl

[Guest guest]

But of course there are things some people eat that I personally will never eat!! No matter how they're fixed!!! Pickled pigs feet come to mind, brains and blood sausage. Just a few of the things that my parents use to eat and I will eat!!!

-:¦:- God's Blessings-:¦:-((¸..·´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:--:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

PS, Sorry Bob for the signature, some of us just like to be different! LOL if we were all the same wouldn't life be boring!!

--- foods. I don't think I am alone here. There must be many people who just won't eat certain foods no matter how much doctors diet books people etc try to convince us we should. I realize I have to work

No one can convince you but yourself. Not a doctor or a book or me.

It IS your mindset that will stop you. There's no physical reason to

"hate" a food unless you're allergic to it. It's also the mindset that

will get you back up to your former weight (or above) if you allow

it to rule you.

As far as not liking a food, figure out why. Then find a way around it.

I hated deviled eggs, but figured out that it was because they were

bland. Spice them up, and yummy! I add lots of Tabasco to the yolks.

[Guest guest]

But of course there are things some people eat that I personally will never eat!! No matter how they're fixed!!! Pickled pigs feet come to mind, brains and blood sausage. Just a few of the things that my parents use to eat and I will eat!!!

-:¦:- God's Blessings-:¦:-((¸..·´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:--:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

PS, Sorry Bob for the signature, some of us just like to be different! LOL if we were all the same wouldn't life be boring!!

--- foods. I don't think I am alone here. There must be many people who just won't eat certain foods no matter how much doctors diet books people etc try to convince us we should. I realize I have to work

No one can convince you but yourself. Not a doctor or a book or me.

It IS your mindset that will stop you. There's no physical reason to

"hate" a food unless you're allergic to it. It's also the mindset that

will get you back up to your former weight (or above) if you allow

it to rule you.

As far as not liking a food, figure out why. Then find a way around it.

I hated deviled eggs, but figured out that it was because they were

bland. Spice them up, and yummy! I add lots of Tabasco to the yolks.

[Guest guest]

But of course there are things some people eat that I personally will never eat!! No matter how they're fixed!!! Pickled pigs feet come to mind, brains and blood sausage. Just a few of the things that my parents use to eat and I will eat!!!

-:¦:- God's Blessings-:¦:-((¸..·´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:--:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

PS, Sorry Bob for the signature, some of us just like to be different! LOL if we were all the same wouldn't life be boring!!

--- foods. I don't think I am alone here. There must be many people who just won't eat certain foods no matter how much doctors diet books people etc try to convince us we should. I realize I have to work

No one can convince you but yourself. Not a doctor or a book or me.

It IS your mindset that will stop you. There's no physical reason to

"hate" a food unless you're allergic to it. It's also the mindset that

will get you back up to your former weight (or above) if you allow

it to rule you.

As far as not liking a food, figure out why. Then find a way around it.

I hated deviled eggs, but figured out that it was because they were

bland. Spice them up, and yummy! I add lots of Tabasco to the yolks.

[Guest guest]

>>> But of course there are things some people eat that I personally will never eat!! No matter how they're fixed!!! Pickled pigs feet come to mind, brains and blood sausage. Just a few of the things that my parents use to eat and I will eat!!!

Sure. Some things are so disgusting and "out of the norm" that I'd never encourage anyone to eat them. But I doubt most people would equate a normal veggie with any of those. LOL! My parents love pickled pigs feet. Yuck! If someone is truly disgusted and would vomit, then pass it by. I just don't find many people are truly disgusted by veggies... more that they "think" they don't like them, or they tried them as a child and didn't like them (not many children love veggies, although my nephew did). It's about being open to trying something new, the mindset, not about disgusting yourself.

Cheryl

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>>> But of course there are things some people eat that I personally will never eat!! No matter how they're fixed!!! Pickled pigs feet come to mind, brains and blood sausage. Just a few of the things that my parents use to eat and I will eat!!!

Sure. Some things are so disgusting and "out of the norm" that I'd never encourage anyone to eat them. But I doubt most people would equate a normal veggie with any of those. LOL! My parents love pickled pigs feet. Yuck! If someone is truly disgusted and would vomit, then pass it by. I just don't find many people are truly disgusted by veggies... more that they "think" they don't like them, or they tried them as a child and didn't like them (not many children love veggies, although my nephew did). It's about being open to trying something new, the mindset, not about disgusting yourself.

Cheryl

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>>> But of course there are things some people eat that I personally will never eat!! No matter how they're fixed!!! Pickled pigs feet come to mind, brains and blood sausage. Just a few of the things that my parents use to eat and I will eat!!!

Sure. Some things are so disgusting and "out of the norm" that I'd never encourage anyone to eat them. But I doubt most people would equate a normal veggie with any of those. LOL! My parents love pickled pigs feet. Yuck! If someone is truly disgusted and would vomit, then pass it by. I just don't find many people are truly disgusted by veggies... more that they "think" they don't like them, or they tried them as a child and didn't like them (not many children love veggies, although my nephew did). It's about being open to trying something new, the mindset, not about disgusting yourself.

Cheryl

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AAARRRGGGGHHHHH! Not to worry. I have a script that deletes your

messages automagically (grin)

> But of course there are things some people eat that I personally

will never eat!! No matter how they're fixed!!! Pickled pigs feet

come to mind, brains and blood sausage. Just a few of the things

that my parents use to eat and I will eat!!!

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different! LOL if we were all the same wouldn't life be boring!!

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>

>

> --- foods. I don't think I am alone here. There must be many

people who

> just won't eat certain foods no matter how much doctors diet books

> people etc try to convince us we should. I realize I have to work

>

> No one can convince you but yourself. Not a doctor or a book or

me.

> It IS your mindset that will stop you. There's no physical reason

to

> " hate " a food unless you're allergic to it. It's also the mindset

that

> will get you back up to your former weight (or above) if you allow

> it to rule you.

>

> As far as not liking a food, figure out why. Then find a way

around it.

> I hated deviled eggs, but figured out that it was because they were

> bland. Spice them up, and yummy! I add lots of Tabasco to the

yolks.

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>>>> You're right Cheryl, I was just being flippant. About the only veggie I don't care for is turnips and I don't think we can have them can we??

Sorry. Didn't mean to imply you meant we should. I'm in a serious mood today because I've been working on several committees and there are always people who don't get the rules, etc. I actually like turnips, baked like fries, but I imagine they are too starchy for SB. I haven't checked though, so they might be okay at some point, in moderation. I always have trouble imagining veggies are bad for me, but I know some do spike my BG, including too much zucchini. It's amazing how a veggie can act like a candy bar.

Cheryl

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Aldridge wrote:

> You're right Cheryl, I was just being flippant. About the only veggie I

> don't care for is turnips and I don't think we can have them can we??

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they " think " they don't like them, or they tried them as a child and

> didn't like them (not many children love veggies, although my nephew

> did). It's about being open to trying something new, the mindset, not

> about disgusting yourself.

>

> Cheryl

>

Nope, We can't have turnips. I think pretty much alot of the so called

" root " veggies are out.

Cheryl,

I agree with you about the Veggies. My Hubby, when I first met

him, refused to eat ANYTHING with onions in it, on it, around it. I

would make a a meat sauce for pasta, sauté the onions and mushrooms

while browning the hamburger meat then add the sauce to it. He would

STILL find the onions and pick them out before he would eat.

**Grumbles** Now he doesn't do that. Thank goodness. It was mighty

frustrating. He was very picky about veggies. Luckily now, he'll eat

just about anything I will.

--

Terri B.

Creative Memories Consultant

Mom to Kali (7/24/03) and wife to Chris

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Creative Memories Consultant

Mom to Kali (7/24/03) and wife to Chris

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Turnips are OK on Phase 1 according to the book. Enjoy!

I actually like turnips, baked like fries, but

> I imagine they are too starchy for SB. I haven't checked though, so

they might be okay at some point, in moderation.

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Turnips are OK on Phase 1 according to the book. Enjoy!

I actually like turnips, baked like fries, but

> I imagine they are too starchy for SB. I haven't checked though, so

they might be okay at some point, in moderation.

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--

In Canada and that in itself poses a problem for me sometimes

because I can't find the Canadian equivalent to the US product so

here I sit waiting for fellow Canadian from Eastern Canada to write

that SBD book for Canadians! LOL. Even in Eastern Canada there are

many products that we would not find here in Western Canada. I have

to disagree with you. If you hate a food you hate it plain as that.

Aint nothing gonna change my mind about that at my age but having

said that I am making an attempt to try new things. I am just saying

that devilled eggs, hummus, onions cooked or raw and peppers are not

ever going to be part of my consumption. Can't stand them so why not

try to work around it was my point!!! If that is not possible then

you are right: I run the risk of being bored with my food for the

next 2 weeks til I get into Phase 2. I can't be alone with these

thoughts!!

- In South-Beach-Diet-Getting-It-Right , " Cheryl "

<cherylw13@e...> wrote:

> --- foods. I don't think I am alone here. There must be many

people who

> just won't eat certain foods no matter how much doctors diet books

> people etc try to convince us we should. I realize I have to work

>

> No one can convince you but yourself. Not a doctor or a book or

me.

> It IS your mindset that will stop you. There's no physical reason

to

> " hate " a food unless you're allergic to it. It's also the mindset

that

> will get you back up to your former weight (or above) if you allow

> it to rule you.

>

> As far as not liking a food, figure out why. Then find a way

around it.

> I hated deviled eggs, but figured out that it was because they were

> bland. Spice them up, and yummy! I add lots of Tabasco to the

yolks.

>

> That seems expensive for ricotta. I usually pay about $4 for that

size.

> Have you checked other stores? Or maybe you're in an expensive

area of

> the US?

>

> Cheryl

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75 calories worth...that's a bunch!

And how much sugar

free jello is allowed to be consumed in one day??

[Guest guest]

You could try using lowfat cottage cheese in place of the ricotta.

Many don't like the texture of ricotta and make the substitution so

I don't see why you couldn't do it due to cost.

Carol

> --- Oh I know Cheryl, that mindset is a huge problem for me. I

guess

> it comes from a lifetime eating pattern of just not liking certain

> foods. I don't think I am alone here. There must be many people

who

> just won't eat certain foods no matter how much doctors diet books

> people etc try to convince us we should. I realize I have to work

> around that and eat the ones I do enjoy but as for trying to

acquire

> a taste for foods I have hated my entire life, I don't think that

is

> going to change...I know I run the risk of being bored quicker

> eating foods I do like but lordy I don't think I can teach this

old

> dog that new trick of liking devilled eggs beans hummus etc LOL As

> for the Ricotta, I am still looking around for a less expensive

> Brand but it runs around 5.89 for a small 6-8 oz tub of it here.

> There are numerous brands but they all seem comparable. How does

> that price compare with USA??

>

> > As someone who has been eating low to moderate carb for about 1

1/2

> > years, I can tell you that changing your way of eating means

being

> > open to trying new foods and changing the mindset of " I hate

____. "

> > Because, unfortunately, unless you try new foods and put variety

> into

> > your meals, you will not succeed, and will backslide to the

foods

> you

> > " think " you love.

> >

> > One thing I noticed is that my tastes changed a bit once I got

the

> > sugars out of my system. Things that had tasted bitter before

> didn't

> > taste that way any longer.

> >

> > I tricked myself into learning to like things like broccoli and

> > cauliflower and green beans by adding lots of cheese and/or

butter/

> > margarine and herbs to them. Yes, I know SBD doesn't allow

> unlimited

> > cheese (full fat), and I haven't completely read the book yet,

but

> > there must be something you CAN do that will help you transition

> into

> > eating different foods. As far as the broccoli/cauliflower gas

> > problem, you can buy Beano, or you can just keep eating, knowing

> your

> > system will get more used to the fiber eventually. LOL!

> >

> > Maybe if you post what kind of veggies you think you don't like,

> > and others will have specific suggestions to make it easier. Just

> > a thought...

> >

> > As for ricotta, it's not horribly expensive here, or at least

> > doesn't seem that way to me. The exception is when you buy the

> > organic type. Of course, expensive is kind of subjective, so who

> > knows. :-)

> >

> > I'm not a fan of fish either. I like salmon and tuna, and

grouper.

> > I don't think you have to learn to like all types, but just be

> > open to it. Some recipes will probably help. Something simple to

> > prepare but with a good flavor.

> >

> > Good luck.

> > Cheryl