Re: Does Clancy have a sponsor?

July 11, 1999

Clancy's sponsor is God himself.

Jan

Does Clancy have a sponsor?

>That's my entire question... does Clancy have a sponsor? He has to if

>he's " working the program " right. It's one of the must-have

>suggestions, dontchaknow...

>

>I've seen people in meetings thank higher ups for dishing out their

> " tough love " . I dunno... it always looked like abuse to me. Every

>sponsor I had tried to violate one or more of my constitutional rights.

>I saw a wonderful buch of quotes on a conspiracy website. That's where

>I'm getting my quote of the month for the deprogramming site...

>

>This wonderful conspiracy site is directed mostly at governments, but

>the quotes are valid for AA as well, since it's just another

>totalitarian regime. Here's one to think about.

>

> " You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a

>reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating

>the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the great struggle

>for independence "

> Austin Beard

>

>Apple

>>

>> I also veiw Clancy I. as one of the most arrogant and disturbed

>(downright

>> mean and nasty) individuals I have ever heard. When I see that so

>many from

>> AA just idolize him, it makes me shake my head in complete confusion.

>The

>> way he brags about treating anyone(newcomers) with such cruelty and

>> disrespect just floors me. Rebekah

>>

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July 11, 1999

Hi Jan;

You sure it shouldn't be the other way around?

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July 12, 1999

Rio wrote:

>

> Clancy's sponsor is God himself.

>

> Jan

*************NEWS FLASH**************

CLANCY DECLARES HIMSELF THE ONE AND ONLY GOD!

************************************

In an unprecedented move, Clancy Imusland, self-proclaimed leader of the

ultra Orthodox AA Sect called the Pacific Group, declared that he is the

God of all creation, thus extending his dominion to all of humanity,

alcoholic and non-alcoholic alike. This startling revelation came to

him in the early sixties, shortly after having his front teeth kicked

out in a drunk tank for vomiting on a cellmate's bunk.

He is purported to have kept this epiphany to himself for the past

thirty-five years, planning to reveal his gift to the world on the

threshold of the Millennium, so that the general public would have time

to prepare for the coming Sober Millennium when sobriety and serenity

will reign supreme.

The Pacific Group's primary religious ritual occurs in their Lord and

Savior's back yard. Presently only Clancy's personal disciples have

bestowed upon them the great honor and privilege of scooping up his

hallowed canines' leavings.

Throngs of new devotees are filling the streets around Mr. Imusland's

Venice,CA home, brandishing 40oz. malt liquors and other assorted

intoxicants hoping to inflict themselves with the holy disease of

alcoholism that they too might have a chance at handling the consecrated

feces that fill his back yard. People around the world are reported to

be guzzling their way through enormous amounts of alcoholic beverages

in order that they might become one of the " chosen " ones.

Clancy has instructed the remaining non-alcoholic segment of humanity to

party like it's 1999, with hopes that everyone will hit bottom and start

working the 12 Steps by the year 2000.

Such a strain is being put on the world alcohol supply, that there is

concern that shortages could postpone the celebration of New Years Eve

2000. Of course, concern over alcohol shortages would become moot should

Mr. Imusland's predictions prove accurate.

Shock waves are being felt everywhere. World religions are panicking as

millions convert to Alcoholism.

Pope has issued a statement that Holy Communion in the

Catholic Church would now afford a full bottle of red wine for each

member of the congregation to wash down the traditionally dry host. It

is rumored that the newly ordained God's dogs' excrement may be used in

this holiest of sacraments to anoint the foreheads of the faithful.

There is only so much of the venerable waste to go around, so generic

dung will be blessed by a priest and used in very much the same way wine

is substituted for the blood of Christ. Parishioners needn't concern

themselves with issues of smell and hygiene, since the manure will be

completely sanitized and will retain little of its repugnant odor.

Holy books are being rewritten or usurped by the Big Book of Alcoholics

Anonymous. Rituals are being altered in all the major religions of the world.

Muslim leaders have overturned sacred edicts prohibiting the consumption

of alcoholic beverages.

The Jewish faith long known for its low incidence of alcoholism as well

as the rule for not driving after sundown on the Sabbath, has now

offered the option to drive only if intoxicated as an incentive to their

less alcoholically inclined following, with hopes of getting the Jewish

faith back in the running as the " chosen people " . Although still unsure

about Clancy's son, Jesus, they have fully embraced Clancy as their

foretold Messiah.

International drug cartels are scrambling as demand for non-alcoholic

intoxicants plummets. Cocaine once wielding an enormous price tag can

now be bought on the street for as little as $8.00 a gram. Local addicts

joke that soon you'll be able to pick up a dime bag for 10 cents.

No sooner had liquor manufacturers started basking in the glory of

exploding profits, that they became aware of Clancy's plan for a Sober

Millennium thus ending all demand for alcohol on New Years Eve 2000. On

Wall Street, alcohol related stocks are reeling and many people heavily

vested in alcoholic beverage securities are leaping to their deaths,

reminiscent of the '39 crash.

Doctors and scientists are analyzing samples of Clancy's dogs' stool,

following numerous reports of spontaneous remission from terminal

illness after the afflicted had merely trodden in the Hounds of Heaven's

effluent. There have also been hundreds of reports of people being

struck sober by the Big Book wielding Deity. Witnesses say that Clancy

merely raises the text heavenward, and swiftly brings it down upon the

head of the diseased individual. The person loses all desire to drink

followed by an insatiable compulsion to bring the teachings of 12 Steps

to the ignorant masses.

Mr. Imusland, having been reached for further comment, said that it

would not be necessary to call him by the name " GOD " since over the

years Clancy had come to mean pretty much the same thing.

When asked why he was establishing the " Sober Millennium " in the

beginning of the year 2000 as opposed to 2001 when new Millennium really

begins, he added, " Look I'm God around here, I'll start the Millennium

whenever I Clancydamn well please! "

I'll keep you posted on further developments, or feel free to post your

own installment.

> Does Clancy have a sponsor?

>

> >That's my entire question... does Clancy have a sponsor? He has to if

> >he's " working the program " right. It's one of the must-have

> >suggestions, dontchaknow...

> >

> >I've seen people in meetings thank higher ups for dishing out their

> > " tough love " . I dunno... it always looked like abuse to me. Every

> >sponsor I had tried to violate one or more of my constitutional rights.

> >I saw a wonderful buch of quotes on a conspiracy website. That's where

> >I'm getting my quote of the month for the deprogramming site...

> >

> >This wonderful conspiracy site is directed mostly at governments, but

> >the quotes are valid for AA as well, since it's just another

> >totalitarian regime. Here's one to think about.

> >

> > " You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a

> >reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating

> >the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the great struggle

> >for independence "

> > Austin Beard

> >

> >Apple

> >>

> >> I also veiw Clancy I. as one of the most arrogant and disturbed

> >(downright

> >> mean and nasty) individuals I have ever heard. When I see that so

> >many from

> >> AA just idolize him, it makes me shake my head in complete confusion.

> >The

> >> way he brags about treating anyone(newcomers) with such cruelty and

> >> disrespect just floors me. Rebekah

> >>

> >

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July 12, 1999

Clancy considered Chuck C., author of " A New Pair of Glasses, " to be his

sponsor.

AppleDTP@... wrote:

>

> That's my entire question... does Clancy have a sponsor? He has to if

> he's " working the program " right. It's one of the must-have

> suggestions, dontchaknow...

>

> I've seen people in meetings thank higher ups for dishing out their

> " tough love " . I dunno... it always looked like abuse to me. Every

> sponsor I had tried to violate one or more of my constitutional rights.

> I saw a wonderful buch of quotes on a conspiracy website. That's where

> I'm getting my quote of the month for the deprogramming site...

>

> This wonderful conspiracy site is directed mostly at governments, but

> the quotes are valid for AA as well, since it's just another

> totalitarian regime. Here's one to think about.

>

> " You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a

> reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating

> the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the great struggle

> for independence "

> Austin Beard

>

> Apple

> >

> > I also veiw Clancy I. as one of the most arrogant and disturbed

> (downright

> > mean and nasty) individuals I have ever heard. When I see that so

> many from

> > AA just idolize him, it makes me shake my head in complete confusion.

> The

> > way he brags about treating anyone(newcomers) with such cruelty and

> > disrespect just floors me. Rebekah

> >

>

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Hunt wrote:

>

> Clancy considered Chuck C., author of " A New Pair of Glasses, " to be his

> sponsor.

Hi Guys,

True.

Unfortunately, the venerable Chuck C. is presently taking the proverbial

" dirt nap " . Although I'm no supporter of sponsorship, I think Chuck C.

was the only thing that was holding Clancy's megalomaniacal aspirations

in check.

> AppleDTP@... wrote:

> >

> > That's my entire question... does Clancy have a sponsor? He has to if

> > he's " working the program " right. It's one of the must-have

> > suggestions, dontchaknow...

> >

> > I've seen people in meetings thank higher ups for dishing out their

> > " tough love " . I dunno... it always looked like abuse to me. Every

> > sponsor I had tried to violate one or more of my constitutional rights.

> > I saw a wonderful buch of quotes on a conspiracy website. That's where

> > I'm getting my quote of the month for the deprogramming site...

> >

> > This wonderful conspiracy site is directed mostly at governments, but

> > the quotes are valid for AA as well, since it's just another

> > totalitarian regime. Here's one to think about.

> >

> > " You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a

> > reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating

> > the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the great struggle

> > for independence "

> > Austin Beard

> >

> > Apple

> > >

> > > I also veiw Clancy I. as one of the most arrogant and disturbed

> > (downright

> > > mean and nasty) individuals I have ever heard. When I see that so

> > many from

> > > AA just idolize him, it makes me shake my head in complete confusion.

> > The

> > > way he brags about treating anyone(newcomers) with such cruelty and

> > > disrespect just floors me. Rebekah

> > >

> >

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July 13, 1999

Yes, I read " A New Pair of Glasses, " towards the end of my AA days, and

I found at least one of the references to Clancy's views of Sponsorship

to be, well, skeptical.

And I agree that when Chuck C. died Clancy went nutso.

The only reason I'm interested in " Clancy News " is my ex-sponsor wanted

emulate Clancy. The back yard, the whole bit.

My view of AA not as black & white as some on this list (as I have met

many great people in AA who I still keep in touch with although my

meeting attendance has long since stopped), but I think Clancy and his

often Powerful Followers are a genuinely dangerous segment of AA that

should be exposed.

By the way, whoever started this page, thank you for what I believe is

an extremely rare forum of sanity in this pseudo-new age-recovery soaked

world. I think the majority of people who attend AA eventually come to

the conclusion that its " not for them. "

Hard core AAers only SEEM like they're the majority. But have heart,

Sanity will prevail.

Thank you!

Joe Berenbaum wrote:

>

> At 16:05 12/07/99 -0400, you wrote:

> >Clancy considered Chuck C., author of " A New Pair of Glasses, " to be his

> >sponsor.

>

> Well I'm working through my AA tape collection, that's two of my one-time

> inspirations better researched. Does anyone know or has heard of Ray

> O'Keefe? Another humourous AA judge. I actually had his verions of all 12

> steps once.

>

> Joe Berenbaum

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At 16:54 12/07/99 -0700, you wrote:

>

> Hunt wrote:

>>

>> Clancy considered Chuck C., author of " A New Pair of Glasses, " to be his

>> sponsor.

>

>Hi Guys,

>True.

>Unfortunately, the venerable Chuck C. is presently taking the proverbial

> " dirt nap " . Although I'm no supporter of sponsorship, I think Chuck C.

>was the only thing that was holding Clancy's megalomaniacal aspirations

>in check.

>

I think Chuck himself never had a sponsor.

On one of his tapes, in between prattling on about him and God, he said so.

You can't trust anybody these days. I hereby revoke my AA membership!

Joe Berenbaum

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At 16:05 12/07/99 -0400, you wrote:

>Clancy considered Chuck C., author of " A New Pair of Glasses, " to be his

>sponsor.

Well I'm working through my AA tape collection, that's two of my one-time

inspirations better researched. Does anyone know or has heard of Ray

O'Keefe? Another humourous AA judge. I actually had his verions of all 12

steps once.

Joe Berenbaum

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At 16:05 12/07/99 -0400, you wrote:

>Clancy considered Chuck C., author of " A New Pair of Glasses, " to be his

>sponsor.

Well I'm working through my AA tape collection, that's two of my one-time

inspirations better researched. Does anyone know or has heard of Ray

O'Keefe? Another humourous AA judge. I actually had his verions of all 12

steps once.

Joe Berenbaum

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At 16:05 12/07/99 -0400, you wrote:

>Clancy considered Chuck C., author of " A New Pair of Glasses, " to be his

>sponsor.

Well I'm working through my AA tape collection, that's two of my one-time

inspirations better researched. Does anyone know or has heard of Ray

O'Keefe? Another humourous AA judge. I actually had his verions of all 12

steps once.

Joe Berenbaum

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At 16:54 12/07/99 -0700, you wrote:

>

> Hunt wrote:

>>

>> Clancy considered Chuck C., author of " A New Pair of Glasses, " to be his

>> sponsor.

>

>Hi Guys,

>True.

>Unfortunately, the venerable Chuck C. is presently taking the proverbial

> " dirt nap " . Although I'm no supporter of sponsorship, I think Chuck C.

>was the only thing that was holding Clancy's megalomaniacal aspirations

>in check.

>

I think Chuck himself never had a sponsor.

On one of his tapes, in between prattling on about him and God, he said so.

You can't trust anybody these days. I hereby revoke my AA membership!

Joe Berenbaum

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Wot's a dirt nap? a relapse?

P.

On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:11:22 Joe Berenbaum

wrote:

> At 16:54 12/07/99 -0700, you wrote:

> >

> > Hunt wrote:

> >>

> >> Clancy considered Chuck C., author of " A New Pair of Glasses, " to be his

> >> sponsor.

> >

> >Hi Guys,

> >True.

> >Unfortunately, the venerable Chuck C. is presently taking the proverbial

> > " dirt nap " . Although I'm no supporter of sponsorship, I think Chuck C.

> >was the only thing that was holding Clancy's megalomaniacal aspirations

> >in check.

> >

>

> I think Chuck himself never had a sponsor.

>

> On one of his tapes, in between prattling on about him and God, he said so.

>

> You can't trust anybody these days. I hereby revoke my AA membership!

>

> Joe Berenbaum

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