Re: Extra Beats or are they Skipped Beats

[Guest guest]

>

> > There are some names who are quoting notably higher success

rates than others, and

> > other quite eminent names who just can't seem to get their

success rates

> > up.

>

> Are there sources for these success rates other than just asking

each EP you're interested in?

On our website, database -> ablations has some personal results for

people. Fairly discouraging if you look at them, but the success

rate has been increasing a lot recently, I think, for some docs.

It would certainly be interesting to see a disinterested report of

success rates with a common definition of success - totally getting

rid of afib vs. substantial improvement, etc.

[Guest guest]

An Electrophysiologist is a Cardiologist who specializes in the

electrical activity of the heart and in the diagnosis and treatment of

heart rhythm disorders.

Usually my skipped beats occurred after an episode of A-Fib. My

A-Fib felt like I had mice in my heart. My heart would start beating

crazy, then start racing.

Check out Focal Point Ablation to cure your A-Fib. I had A-Fib and

was completely cured four years ago. I put together a Web site with a

list of Doctors and Medical Facilities that perform this procedure

http://www.a-fib.com.

Focal Point catheter Ablation is a procedure that takes about two to

four hours under local anesthetic. Most A-Fib comes from the left atrium

pulmonary veins. The doctors simply zap those areas so they don't

produce A-Fib signals.

isell_discoverytoys wrote:

> I have been lurking for a while and often hear about ectopic beats.

> When you get that feeling of something not being right for a moment

> are we talking about skipped beats or extra beats. Or are the two

> uniquely different.

> Second Q.. in the U.S. what is the difference betweem an EP and

> Cardio.

>

> Thanks, Ken

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

EPs are MDs. They can be found on the Web site http://www.naspe.org.

This is the Web site of the North American Society of pacing and

Electrophysiology which is a very useful Web site for information on

A-Fib. Also, check out my Web site http://www.a-fib.com for EPs who

specialize in Focal Point Catheter Ablation.

ken schwartz wrote:

> thanks for the response.. Where would you find an EP.. Would they be

> listed under physicians.. Are the actually MD's?

>

> Re: Extra Beats or are they Skipped Beats

>

>

>

> Ken,

> The heart does not actually " skip. " However, it does feel like it.

> What you are feeling is an ectopic beat (premature contraction). It

> will either originate in the atria or ventricles thus: PAC=Premature

> Atrial Contraction and PVC=Premature Ventricular Contraction. Many

> people refer to these as " skipped beats. "

> Cardiologist: He or she deals with the aspects of the heart minus

> the electrical system. An EP (Electrophysiologist) specializes in the

> electrical system of the heart.

> Dwight

>

> isell_discoverytoys wrote:I have been lurking for a while and often

> hear about ectopic beats.

> When you get that feeling of something not being right for a moment

> are we talking about skipped beats or extra beats. Or are the two

> uniquely different.

> Second Q.. in the U.S. what is the difference betweem an EP and

> Cardio.

>

> Thanks, Ken

>

> Dwight Broeman

> dbroeman@...

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

EPs are MDs. They can be found on the Web site http://www.naspe.org.

This is the Web site of the North American Society of pacing and

Electrophysiology which is a very useful Web site for information on

A-Fib. Also, check out my Web site http://www.a-fib.com for EPs who

specialize in Focal Point Catheter Ablation.

ken schwartz wrote:

> thanks for the response.. Where would you find an EP.. Would they be

> listed under physicians.. Are the actually MD's?

>

> Re: Extra Beats or are they Skipped Beats

>

>

>

> Ken,

> The heart does not actually " skip. " However, it does feel like it.

> What you are feeling is an ectopic beat (premature contraction). It

> will either originate in the atria or ventricles thus: PAC=Premature

> Atrial Contraction and PVC=Premature Ventricular Contraction. Many

> people refer to these as " skipped beats. "

> Cardiologist: He or she deals with the aspects of the heart minus

> the electrical system. An EP (Electrophysiologist) specializes in the

> electrical system of the heart.

> Dwight

>

> isell_discoverytoys wrote:I have been lurking for a while and often

> hear about ectopic beats.

> When you get that feeling of something not being right for a moment

> are we talking about skipped beats or extra beats. Or are the two

> uniquely different.

> Second Q.. in the U.S. what is the difference betweem an EP and

> Cardio.

>

> Thanks, Ken

>

> Dwight Broeman

> dbroeman@...

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

Fran,

Give us your GP's email address. We'll send him a few notes of encouragement.

Rich O

[Guest guest]

Fran,

Give us your GP's email address. We'll send him a few notes of encouragement.

Rich O

[Guest guest]

Fran,

Give us your GP's email address. We'll send him a few notes of encouragement.

Rich O

[Guest guest]

Steve

Thanks. Here in this country I cannot get to see an EP, or any other type of

specialist, without a refferral from my GP. So if my GP or cardio won't

refer me I am up against a brick wall. Until I can afford to see an EP I

will just have to hope that they will discover what is going on by other

means. I don't think health has the same implications in this country as it

does in the rest of the world. And no I can't change GP as there is no one

to change to.

Fran

Re: Extra Beats or are they Skipped Beats

> I think you have to get to an EP. Perhaps the people at the NASPE Web

> site can help you find someone in England. the site is

> http://www.naspe.org. It is a society of Electrophysiologists that helps

> you find an EP.

>

> Frances Ross wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Fran,

> > > In my opinion, if you are on the verge of passing out and having near

> > death experiences, you should be treated more aggressively. An EP

> > study may

> > be in order depending on the origination of these arrhythmias.

> > >

> > > Dwight

> >

> > Exactly. I have passed out on more than 5 occasions with seizures and

near

> > death experiences, but not like epileptic grand mal. Told that my

> > whole body

> > shudders and trembles, but although I am not aware of my body or whats

> > going

> > on around me I am aware in my head that I am fighting for my life. I

> > go into

> > a dark tunnel and the rest.

> >

> > When I asked my GP about being reffered to an EP she said whats one of

> > those! I explained. She said there is not one. When I asked my cardio to

> > refer me to one he dismissed them and said that they are the experts in

> > arrhythmia's. So I am up against the powers that be. So I have been

> > put down

> > the road of sleep tests etc. They wanted my turns to be a form of

> > hypnogogic

> > hallucination. So I had the whole narcolepsy testing, but this has

proved

> > negative, despite the gene testing they did (which proved positive on

two

> > accounts).

> >

> > So next it is the neuro in Glasgow. He can do full ECG and EEG at the

same

> > time, as well as a variety of autonomic tests. I think the problem

> > they are

> > having is determining the cause between epilepsy or cardiac syncope (the

> > problem is that I was misdiagnosed with E twenty years ago, but I

> > never had

> > the conciousness or near death experiences then, but did have AF). Of

> > course

> > it does not happen to order, just when it wants too. And I live in fear

of

> > them ever happening again.

> >

> > Of course my diet has helped tremendously and I have not had one since a

> > year ago last march. I just don't want to go back to them, but I need to

> > really know what causes them. They are few and far between and in away I

> > want to eat all that I know I shouldn't before the testing to bring

> > one on,

> > but I am too scared.

> >

> > Sorry to go on, but .....

> >

> > that is our NHS system for you.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Fran

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

If they have email they don't advertise it. Its a phone to the receptionist,

and if you're lucky they will phone back, or else you turn up at surgery and

wait your turn.

I shouldn't put them down so much, its not really their fault. It is the way

that the health service is run. Their hands are tied too. And these Dr's

cover a huge area which makes it difficult when the one on duty goes out on

call if there is another emergency. They also have limited budgets to work

with, which includes even extra when specialist refferals out of the health

area.

Thanks though

Fran

Re: Extra Beats or are they Skipped Beats

> Fran,

> Give us your GP's email address. We'll send him a few notes of

encouragement.

> Rich O

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

If they have email they don't advertise it. Its a phone to the receptionist,

and if you're lucky they will phone back, or else you turn up at surgery and

wait your turn.

I shouldn't put them down so much, its not really their fault. It is the way

that the health service is run. Their hands are tied too. And these Dr's

cover a huge area which makes it difficult when the one on duty goes out on

call if there is another emergency. They also have limited budgets to work

with, which includes even extra when specialist refferals out of the health

area.

Thanks though

Fran

Re: Extra Beats or are they Skipped Beats

> Fran,

> Give us your GP's email address. We'll send him a few notes of

encouragement.

> Rich O

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

on Thu, 25 Jul 2002 at 20:48:50, Frances Ross

wrote :

>I shouldn't put them down so much, its not really their fault. It is the way

>that the health service is run. Their hands are tied too. And these Dr's

>cover a huge area which makes it difficult when the one on duty goes out on

>call if there is another emergency. They also have limited budgets to work

>with, which includes even extra when specialist refferals out of the health

>area.

It's also true, I think, that even many Cardios etc aren't up on what

EPs and ablations can do.

Best of health to all,

Vicky

[Guest guest]

on Thu, 25 Jul 2002 at 20:48:50, Frances Ross

wrote :

>I shouldn't put them down so much, its not really their fault. It is the way

>that the health service is run. Their hands are tied too. And these Dr's

>cover a huge area which makes it difficult when the one on duty goes out on

>call if there is another emergency. They also have limited budgets to work

>with, which includes even extra when specialist refferals out of the health

>area.

It's also true, I think, that even many Cardios etc aren't up on what

EPs and ablations can do.

Best of health to all,

Vicky

[Guest guest]

> It's also true, I think, that even many Cardios etc aren't up on what

> EPs and ablations can do.

>

> Best of health to all,

> Vicky

>

Yes Vicky, this is so true.

Fran