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Hi there

My son who is nearly three has COX deficiency (mito complex IV). He often

has episodes of shaking, shivering like he is cold - but obviously he is

not! Has anyone else with mito experienced this? What is going on?

All help/suggestions gratefully received.

Yours - .

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My daughter, Savannah, is 3 and has Complex I, Encephalomyopathy. Up until

Savannah was approximately 2 years old, she also had the shiver-like thing.

It was a quick shiver, as if she was cold, and she would usually do it

several times a day. Also, she would have short staring spells

occasionally. Then from 2 years old until just a couple of months ago, we

didn't see her do the shiver thing or the staring spells as much.

Well, a couple of months ago, I started to notice when I would rock her to

sleep that she would do a jerking/twitching-like thing. About this same

time, it would appear the shiver and staring spells had resumed. Last

weekend she did all three several times and she was shaky, lethargic and not

eating well, so I called her neurologist. The doctor feels she is having

seizures and has ordered an EEG, but wants us to consider trying a seizure

medicine - even if the EEG comes back normal, as they often can from what I

understand. The doctor had told us a while back, that she felt the staring

spells were absence (sp?) seizures and the jerky thing was myoclonic jerks.

I have only heard a few people describe what appears to be the same

shiver-like episode. The motion is quite fast and I noticed it the most

when she was sitting up. Savannah was very ataxic and hypotonic, the

physical therapist thought that maybe because of the involuntary movements,

that the shiver was a result of her trying to " center herself " . Since

Savannah is now 3, she has better control and is walking. Her movements

aren't as dyskinetic, so I don't feel this reasoning by the PT is as

appropriate now. The neurologist does not go along with the theory either.

These are the only 2 explanations I've had so far (seizures and " centering

herself " ). I hope it helps. Have you asked your son's doctors about this?

If so, what do they say?

Lipps

Mom to 10, Mackenzie 6 and Savannah 3 (Complex I)

> Hi there

> My son who is nearly three has COX deficiency (mito complex IV). He often

> has episodes of shaking, shivering like he is cold - but obviously he is

> not! Has anyone else with mito experienced this? What is going on?

> All help/suggestions gratefully received.

> Yours - .

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My son also does this. However, he doesn't shake his whole body,

only his arms. He is undiagnosed (suspected mito), and had a normal EEG

and MRI. We have no idea what is going on with him, sorry I couldn't be

of more help!

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, I am not diagnosed with mito, just suspect that is our problem, but I

also do the shivering thing. It is when I get very nervous I do it. One time

on this list there was a big discussion and quite a few people said their

kids did it too if I remember right. S.

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>

>

>

>Hi there

>My son who is nearly three has COX deficiency (mito complex IV). He often

>has episodes of shaking, shivering like he is cold - but obviously he is

>not! Has anyone else with mito experienced this? What is going on?

>All help/suggestions gratefully received.

>Yours - .

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Hi

I mentioned the shaking to 's doctor and he did not make any comment

about it as if he seemed not to think it was relevant. I didn't know if it

was something to do with the mito or not. Now from what you and others in

the group have said I think I'll get back in touch with him and see what he

says now I have more info.

Thanks - R.

Mum to (Complex IV) nearly three, and Chloe age four.

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In a message dated 99-06-17 21:53:03 EDT, you write:

<< Well, a couple of months ago, I started to notice when I would rock her to

sleep that she would do a jerking/twitching-like thing. About this same

time, it would appear the shiver and staring spells had resumed. Last

weekend she did all three several times and she was shaky, lethargic and not

eating well, so I called her neurologist. The doctor feels she is having

seizures and has ordered an EEG, but wants us to consider trying a seizure

medicine - even if the EEG comes back normal, as they often can from what I

understand. The doctor had told us a while back, that she felt the staring

spells were absence (sp?) seizures and the jerky thing was myoclonic jerks.

>>

Dear :

Our daughter, Amy is nearly 22 years old. You just discribed her infantcy!

These seizures changed when she became about 5 years old, then again at 14

years old and at 16. Now, at 22, she has typical Grand Mall seizures,

absence (sp?) seizures, and Drop seizures. The myoclonic jurking has

disapeared except durring the grand Mall.

Our son, Shea had absence seizures from birth and myoclonic episodes

starting when he was 9 years old. They were particularly bad when he had any

cold or flu.

He turned 20 last month and took himself off the seizure meds and Carnitor

when he was 18, with no ill affects. He does experence lethergy and flu-like

symptoms when he doesnt get approprite sleep, and he has a learning

disability, auditory discrimination, but that's about it.

Hope this helps,

Lynnie

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In a message dated 99-06-17 21:53:03 EDT, you write:

<< Well, a couple of months ago, I started to notice when I would rock her to

sleep that she would do a jerking/twitching-like thing. About this same

time, it would appear the shiver and staring spells had resumed. Last

weekend she did all three several times and she was shaky, lethargic and not

eating well, so I called her neurologist. The doctor feels she is having

seizures and has ordered an EEG, but wants us to consider trying a seizure

medicine - even if the EEG comes back normal, as they often can from what I

understand. The doctor had told us a while back, that she felt the staring

spells were absence (sp?) seizures and the jerky thing was myoclonic jerks.

>>

Dear :

Our daughter, Amy is nearly 22 years old. You just discribed her infantcy!

These seizures changed when she became about 5 years old, then again at 14

years old and at 16. Now, at 22, she has typical Grand Mall seizures,

absence (sp?) seizures, and Drop seizures. The myoclonic jurking has

disapeared except durring the grand Mall.

Our son, Shea had absence seizures from birth and myoclonic episodes

starting when he was 9 years old. They were particularly bad when he had any

cold or flu.

He turned 20 last month and took himself off the seizure meds and Carnitor

when he was 18, with no ill affects. He does experence lethergy and flu-like

symptoms when he doesnt get approprite sleep, and he has a learning

disability, auditory discrimination, but that's about it.

Hope this helps,

Lynnie

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In a message dated 99-06-17 21:53:03 EDT, you write:

<< Well, a couple of months ago, I started to notice when I would rock her to

sleep that she would do a jerking/twitching-like thing. About this same

time, it would appear the shiver and staring spells had resumed. Last

weekend she did all three several times and she was shaky, lethargic and not

eating well, so I called her neurologist. The doctor feels she is having

seizures and has ordered an EEG, but wants us to consider trying a seizure

medicine - even if the EEG comes back normal, as they often can from what I

understand. The doctor had told us a while back, that she felt the staring

spells were absence (sp?) seizures and the jerky thing was myoclonic jerks.

>>

Dear :

Our daughter, Amy is nearly 22 years old. You just discribed her infantcy!

These seizures changed when she became about 5 years old, then again at 14

years old and at 16. Now, at 22, she has typical Grand Mall seizures,

absence (sp?) seizures, and Drop seizures. The myoclonic jurking has

disapeared except durring the grand Mall.

Our son, Shea had absence seizures from birth and myoclonic episodes

starting when he was 9 years old. They were particularly bad when he had any

cold or flu.

He turned 20 last month and took himself off the seizure meds and Carnitor

when he was 18, with no ill affects. He does experence lethergy and flu-like

symptoms when he doesnt get approprite sleep, and he has a learning

disability, auditory discrimination, but that's about it.

Hope this helps,

Lynnie

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CLayton also has staring spells and shivering spells and Dr. Kelley does

think they are seizures although the only thing his 2 eeg's have shown is

some abnormal vertex waves but NO seizure activity. He does believe that

although they are seizures he doesn nto want to put him on seizure meds yet -

as they could actually trigger in his case other type of seizures - BUT is

giving us some med to tkae home (cant remember the name) because he believes

that he is a very high risk to develop seizures and that his first seizure

could be a statis seizure.

Love,

Sharon

mommy to Jake (6)(ADHD and too smart for his own good) and fraternal twins

(3/30/97) - Cole -(nda and cute as a button) and Clayton (mitochondrial

disorder (presumed to be complex I), eosinophilic gastroenteritis, food

allergies (milk, soy, eggs, wheat), g-tube, Nissen, latex allergy, DD,

sensory integration disorder, tremors, etc........., and the world's best

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Sharon, how do you fix your computer to be able to make an " ending signature

thing " and just put it on each time without retyping the whole thing (that

is what some of you do, isn't it?) S.

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>From: SDidinsky@...

>

>CLayton also has staring spells and shivering spells and Dr. Kelley does

>think they are seizures although the only thing his 2 eeg's have shown is

>some abnormal vertex waves but NO seizure activity. He does believe that

>although they are seizures he doesn nto want to put him on seizure meds

yet -

>as they could actually trigger in his case other type of seizures - BUT is

>giving us some med to tkae home (cant remember the name) because he

believes

>that he is a very high risk to develop seizures and that his first seizure

>could be a statis seizure.

>

>Love,

>Sharon

>mommy to Jake (6)(ADHD and too smart for his own good) and fraternal twins

>(3/30/97) - Cole -(nda and cute as a button) and Clayton (mitochondrial

>disorder (presumed to be complex I), eosinophilic gastroenteritis, food

>allergies (milk, soy, eggs, wheat), g-tube, Nissen, latex allergy, DD,

>sensory integration disorder, tremors, etc........., and the world's best

>smile)

>

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Sharon, how do you fix your computer to be able to make an " ending signature

thing " and just put it on each time without retyping the whole thing (that

is what some of you do, isn't it?) S.

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>From: SDidinsky@...

>

>CLayton also has staring spells and shivering spells and Dr. Kelley does

>think they are seizures although the only thing his 2 eeg's have shown is

>some abnormal vertex waves but NO seizure activity. He does believe that

>although they are seizures he doesn nto want to put him on seizure meds

yet -

>as they could actually trigger in his case other type of seizures - BUT is

>giving us some med to tkae home (cant remember the name) because he

believes

>that he is a very high risk to develop seizures and that his first seizure

>could be a statis seizure.

>

>Love,

>Sharon

>mommy to Jake (6)(ADHD and too smart for his own good) and fraternal twins

>(3/30/97) - Cole -(nda and cute as a button) and Clayton (mitochondrial

>disorder (presumed to be complex I), eosinophilic gastroenteritis, food

>allergies (milk, soy, eggs, wheat), g-tube, Nissen, latex allergy, DD,

>sensory integration disorder, tremors, etc........., and the world's best

>smile)

>

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affected by mitochondrial disease.

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Sharon, how do you fix your computer to be able to make an " ending signature

thing " and just put it on each time without retyping the whole thing (that

is what some of you do, isn't it?) S.

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>From: SDidinsky@...

>

>CLayton also has staring spells and shivering spells and Dr. Kelley does

>think they are seizures although the only thing his 2 eeg's have shown is

>some abnormal vertex waves but NO seizure activity. He does believe that

>although they are seizures he doesn nto want to put him on seizure meds

yet -

>as they could actually trigger in his case other type of seizures - BUT is

>giving us some med to tkae home (cant remember the name) because he

believes

>that he is a very high risk to develop seizures and that his first seizure

>could be a statis seizure.

>

>Love,

>Sharon

>mommy to Jake (6)(ADHD and too smart for his own good) and fraternal twins

>(3/30/97) - Cole -(nda and cute as a button) and Clayton (mitochondrial

>disorder (presumed to be complex I), eosinophilic gastroenteritis, food

>allergies (milk, soy, eggs, wheat), g-tube, Nissen, latex allergy, DD,

>sensory integration disorder, tremors, etc........., and the world's best

>smile)

>

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>At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the Internet.

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affected by mitochondrial disease.

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Hi ,

I know you didn't ask me, but if you are using Internet Explorer for

your mail program I can help you. If you are using Netscape, I'm sure it's

similar. In Outlook Express 5 go to Tools/Options/Signature. There you can

put in your signature line. Just type what you want to say in the edit box.

You also have a choice of attaching your sig line to all messages or just

new ones. If you are using version 4 for your mail it's in a bit different

place. I think it's still under Tools/options. No, I take that back, it's

under Stationary which I think is on the Tools menu. Under Stationary there

should be something about a sig line. You would do the same thing. Hope

that helps. :))

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Chris-8: Leigh's Disease, MR (mild), hypotonia, non-walker/talker

-7: Leigh's Disease, MR (mild), hypotonia, non-walker/talker, trach

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> Sharon, how do you fix your computer to be able to make an " ending

signature

> thing " and just put it on each time without retyping the whole thing (that

> is what some of you do, isn't it?) S.

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OK Sue let's try this. I'll try signing that way and see if I did it right.

S. mother to 4 and genetic grandmother to 8 with a variety of

symptoms: AD(H)D, depression,suspected mito

AHA!! It worked! Thank you.

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>

>

>Hi ,

> I know you didn't ask me, but if you are using Internet Explorer for

>your mail program I can help you. If you are using Netscape, I'm sure it's

>similar. In Outlook Express 5 go to Tools/Options/Signature. There you

can

>put in your signature line. Just type what you want to say in the edit

box.

>You also have a choice of attaching your sig line to all messages or just

>new ones. If you are using version 4 for your mail it's in a bit different

>place. I think it's still under Tools/options. No, I take that back, it's

>under Stationary which I think is on the Tools menu. Under Stationary

there

>should be something about a sig line. You would do the same thing. Hope

>that helps. :))

>

>Sue ( & Jack)-worn out parents to the greatest kids on earth--

>Chris-8: Leigh's Disease, MR (mild), hypotonia, non-walker/talker

>-7: Leigh's Disease, MR (mild), hypotonia, non-walker/talker, trach

>tube (tracheomalasia), g-tube/fundo Visit us! http://u2.lvcm.com/jscb

>

>

>> Sharon, how do you fix your computer to be able to make an " ending

>signature

>> thing " and just put it on each time without retyping the whole thing

(that

>> is what some of you do, isn't it?) S.

>

>

>

>

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Sharon, Sue helped, thanks! S.

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>From: SDidinsky@...

>

>In a message dated 6/19/99 1:38:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

>joelinda@... writes:

>

><< Sharon, how do you fix your computer to be able to make an " ending

>signature

> thing " and just put it on each time without retyping the whole thing (that

> is what some of you do, isn't it?) S. >>

>

>I just hit a button - the computer guy helped me set it up and I do know

how

>to change it - BUT how is it done - I DO NOT KNOW.

>

>Love,

>Sharon

>mommy to Jake (6)(ADHD and too smart for his own good) and fraternal twins

>(3/30/97) - Cole -(nda and cute as a button) and Clayton (mitochondrial

>disorder (presumed to be complex I), eosinophilic gastroenteritis, food

>allergies (milk, soy, eggs, wheat), g-tube, Nissen, latex allergy, DD,

>sensory integration disorder, tremors, etc........., and the world's best

>smile)

>

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I have Microsoft Outlook Express and created the following signature to add

to my messages. " Tools: Stationery: Signature " and then added the text.

After composing message " Insert: Signature " and you're done. I'm sure that

other e-mail software is similar.

Amy (mom to the younger, possible mito, developmental delay,

microcepaly, bladder reflux to kidney, GI reflux and GI delay in emptying,

CVI, and the best smile and giggle)

Re: HELP

>From: SDidinsky@...

>

>In a message dated 6/19/99 1:38:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

>joelinda@... writes:

>

><< Sharon, how do you fix your computer to be able to make an " ending

>signature

> thing " and just put it on each time without retyping the whole thing (that

> is what some of you do, isn't it?) S. >>

>

>I just hit a button - the computer guy helped me set it up and I do know

how

>to change it - BUT how is it done - I DO NOT KNOW.

>

>Love,

>Sharon

>mommy to Jake (6)(ADHD and too smart for his own good) and fraternal twins

>(3/30/97) - Cole -(nda and cute as a button) and Clayton (mitochondrial

>disorder (presumed to be complex I), eosinophilic gastroenteritis, food

>allergies (milk, soy, eggs, wheat), g-tube, Nissen, latex allergy, DD,

>sensory integration disorder, tremors, etc........., and the world's best

>smile)

>

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Thank you Amy and I got it worked out. Everyone is so helpful. I wish I

could help everyone else as much as you all help me with everything. I

mostly wish I had more answers like for and the weight. I hate it

when scary things are happening and we feel so helpless. S.

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>

>

>>From: SDidinsky@...

>>

>>In a message dated 6/19/99 1:38:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

>>joelinda@... writes:

>>

>><< Sharon, how do you fix your computer to be able to make an " ending

>>signature

>> thing " and just put it on each time without retyping the whole thing

(that

>> is what some of you do, isn't it?) S. >>

>>

>>I just hit a button - the computer guy helped me set it up and I do know

>how

>>to change it - BUT how is it done - I DO NOT KNOW.

>>

>>Love,

>>Sharon

>>mommy to Jake (6)(ADHD and too smart for his own good) and fraternal twins

>>(3/30/97) - Cole -(nda and cute as a button) and Clayton (mitochondrial

>>disorder (presumed to be complex I), eosinophilic gastroenteritis, food

>>allergies (milk, soy, eggs, wheat), g-tube, Nissen, latex allergy, DD,

>>sensory integration disorder, tremors, etc........., and the world's best

>>smile)

>>

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>affected by mitochondrial disease.

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is still undiagnosoed with a mito dx but she too has the staring and

shiver spells, her neurologist has recommended that she take seizure meds.

Said they would help her sleep better (which did happen...9-12 hours

staright every day-she doesn't take any big naps during the day) and if she

slept better she might develop better - which she is making progress but no

milestones. She continues to twitch for 30 mins while she falls asleep.

Keep us up to date on his eegs and if he does get a seizure. BTW: 's

eeg showed no spikes that would be a seizure but she had waves. Her

neurologist said he thought she was having them and we didn't recognise

them, I don't agree. She still twitches, as I said.

Amy (mom to the younger, possible mito, developmental delay,

microcepaly, bladder reflux to kidney, GI reflux and GI delay in emptying,

CVI, and the best smile and giggle)

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>From: SDidinsky@...

>

>CLayton also has staring spells and shivering spells and Dr. Kelley does

>think they are seizures although the only thing his 2 eeg's have shown is

>some abnormal vertex waves but NO seizure activity. He does believe that

>although they are seizures he doesn nto want to put him on seizure meds

yet -

>as they could actually trigger in his case other type of seizures - BUT is

>giving us some med to tkae home (cant remember the name) because he

believes

>that he is a very high risk to develop seizures and that his first seizure

>could be a statis seizure.

>

>Love,

>Sharon

>mommy to Jake (6)(ADHD and too smart for his own good) and fraternal twins

>(3/30/97) - Cole -(nda and cute as a button) and Clayton (mitochondrial

>disorder (presumed to be complex I), eosinophilic gastroenteritis, food

>allergies (milk, soy, eggs, wheat), g-tube, Nissen, latex allergy, DD,

>sensory integration disorder, tremors, etc........., and the world's best

>smile)

>

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Hi Amy,

You can check a box that will automatically insert your sig file to all

message or to just new ones. That way you don't have to do it manually.

Just trying to be helpful. :))

Sue ( & Jack)-worn out parents to the greatest kids on earth--

Chris-8: Leigh's Disease, MR (mild), hypotonia, non-walker/talker

-7: Leigh's Disease, MR (mild), hypotonia, non-walker/talker, trach

tube (tracheomalasia), g-tube/fundo Visit us! http://u2.lvcm.com/jscb

> I have Microsoft Outlook Express and created the following signature to

add

> to my messages. " Tools: Stationery: Signature " and then added the text.

> After composing message " Insert: Signature " and you're done. I'm sure

that

> other e-mail software is similar.

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You are quite welcome! :) I do hope you get to feeling better.

Sue ( & Jack)-worn out parents to the greatest kids on earth--

Chris-8: Leigh's Disease, MR (mild), hypotonia, non-walker/talker

-7: Leigh's Disease, MR (mild), hypotonia, non-walker/talker, trach

tube (tracheomalasia), g-tube/fundo Visit us! http://u2.lvcm.com/jscb

> OK Sue let's try this. I'll try signing that way and see if I did it

right.

>

> S. mother to 4 and genetic grandmother to 8 with a variety of

> symptoms: AD(H)D, depression,suspected mito

>

> AHA!! It worked! Thank you.

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You are quite welcome! :) I do hope you get to feeling better.

Sue ( & Jack)-worn out parents to the greatest kids on earth--

Chris-8: Leigh's Disease, MR (mild), hypotonia, non-walker/talker

-7: Leigh's Disease, MR (mild), hypotonia, non-walker/talker, trach

tube (tracheomalasia), g-tube/fundo Visit us! http://u2.lvcm.com/jscb

> OK Sue let's try this. I'll try signing that way and see if I did it

right.

>

> S. mother to 4 and genetic grandmother to 8 with a variety of

> symptoms: AD(H)D, depression,suspected mito

>

> AHA!! It worked! Thank you.

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Jeanie

DON " T go near the baby food, its vile!! I tried that & thought nothing was

better than eating that. The first few weeks while your tummy is healing

get liquids in .. protein shakes, soups, if you can tolerate it cottage

cheese, scrambled eggs (soft) things like that you don't need to be eating

that blechy stuff.

Hang in there!

Lyssa

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SORRY TO BOTHER YOU ALL BUT AS THE DAY APPROACHES RAPIDLY I MUST SAY IM

GOING NUTS OOPS OR WAS I ALLREADY THERE ANYWAY I WENT AND GOT SOME REALLY

CUTE SIPPY CUPS AND SPOONS ETC. AND THE DIET THE NUT. GAVE ME SAID TRY BABY

FOOD AT FIRST I KNOW PROTEIN IS A MUST SO I WENT AND BOUGHT EVERY KIND OF

MEAN BABY FOOD THEY HAD AND I OPENED UP A COUPLE AND PUKED THERE IS NO WAY I

CAN EAT THAT PLEASE HELP....also is cream of wheat and wheatena good

jeanie(desperate)

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Protein shakes are a great way to boost your daily protein intake. They mix

up with milk or water ..

You can buy them at most health food stores .. and places like GNC .. I

like Designer Protein brand and Pro Score 100 both in chocolate flavors.

They have about 20-24g of protein per shake (you have to read the labels to

see which has how much).

I know my surgeon recommended the sugar free Instant Carnation breakfast

shakes but those have very low protein .. although they do in a pinch.

Lyssa

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i dont want to sound stupid but never heard of protein shakes and what kind

of soups like tomatoe or chicken broth

HELP

>

>

> SORRY TO BOTHER YOU ALL BUT AS THE DAY APPROACHES RAPIDLY I MUST SAY IM

> GOING NUTS OOPS OR WAS I ALLREADY THERE ANYWAY I WENT AND GOT SOME REALLY

> CUTE SIPPY CUPS AND SPOONS ETC. AND THE DIET THE NUT. GAVE ME SAID TRY

BABY

> FOOD AT FIRST I KNOW PROTEIN IS A MUST SO I WENT AND BOUGHT EVERY KIND OF

> MEAN BABY FOOD THEY HAD AND I OPENED UP A COUPLE AND PUKED THERE IS NO WAY

I

> CAN EAT THAT PLEASE HELP....also is cream of wheat and wheatena good

> jeanie(desperate)

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Enter to WIN one of 10 NEW Kenmore Ranges!

> Only at sears.com

> http://click./1/2677/7/_/675032/_/956449749/

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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is the protein shales in place of the 3 ounces of protein i need at a meal

so sorry to bother you

HELP

>

>

> SORRY TO BOTHER YOU ALL BUT AS THE DAY APPROACHES RAPIDLY I MUST SAY IM

> GOING NUTS OOPS OR WAS I ALLREADY THERE ANYWAY I WENT AND GOT SOME REALLY

> CUTE SIPPY CUPS AND SPOONS ETC. AND THE DIET THE NUT. GAVE ME SAID TRY

BABY

> FOOD AT FIRST I KNOW PROTEIN IS A MUST SO I WENT AND BOUGHT EVERY KIND OF

> MEAN BABY FOOD THEY HAD AND I OPENED UP A COUPLE AND PUKED THERE IS NO WAY

I

> CAN EAT THAT PLEASE HELP....also is cream of wheat and wheatena good

> jeanie(desperate)

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Enter to WIN one of 10 NEW Kenmore Ranges!

> Only at sears.com

> http://click./1/2677/7/_/675032/_/956449749/

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

>

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