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Guest guest Posted November 4, 1999 Report Share Posted November 4, 1999 , Your story about Olivia and " have to pee pee before dance " gave me the giggles! LOL Hahahahahahaha Take care, Krista Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 1999 Report Share Posted November 17, 1999 Tara: Yes, a restless night can have a lot of impact on your temps, but usually make them rise, not drop. Go ahead and record it but pretty much ignore it. Make a note that you had a restless night that night so you will remember in the future. In Taking Charge of Your Fertility she talks about a " Rule of Thumb " . It is basically to cover up odd temps with your thumb when looking at your chart so you can see the pattern without being confused. Do you have this book? I used a website to help me with charting, and I recorded temps like that but could " discard them " from being displayed if I wanted. The site is www.fertilityfriend.com You have to subscribe, but for me it was worth it to have some help figuring out the charts at first. You might take a look and see what you think. There is even a free trial for new subscribers. If you are having a lot of restless sleep, you might want to try the monitor like Krista uses to assess ovulation. Take care and good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 1999 Report Share Posted November 17, 1999 Tara I have to put my 2 cents worth in. I think wait till tomorrow, if you didn't sleep solidly for atleast 3 hours, it may have affected the reading. On Sunday when I took my temp.(first day of AF) it was VERY low compared to a constant 37 deg.Celsius from then on. I had a very restless night Saturday night, woke up constantly etc., so I am sure that must have played a role. The last 3 days my readings have been 37.00, 37.00 and 36.96, so they are very regular. How are you doing? Is everything moving along o.k.? scroll ttc. mentioned o.k. I am getting very impatient. I want AF to finish now so we can get down to the good stuff. I have felt alot more positive lately, and I'm soooo exited about ttc. this month. I am not being overly confident though, I know very well that it probably won't happen this month, but I'm just glad to finally be here, and to for the first time since my e/p feel ready to face the whole thing again. My dh. is now also getting exited, although he said to me last night, that he only realises now how fragile the whole thing is, and to what extent the e/p has effected us. But that is all good though, because he now knows how I am feeling, and why I am so eager for it to work this time, so if I feel down if AF comes again, then he will completely understand where I am coming from. Anyway, it is now only cycle day 4 for me, so it's early days yet. please let me know how you are, I miss you. take care, and I hope that you get some answers about your temps. sonja No Subject , This morning my temp dropped below the 98 coverline. It went to 97.8. I had trouble sleeping and I have a lot on my mind. It is only day 24 so I can't understand why it would drop already. Do you think my insomnia had anything to do w/ it. Should I wait and see what tomorrow's temp is before I draw any conclusions? Tara ------------------------------------------------------------------------ A shopper’s dream come true! Find practically anything on earth at eBay! Come and browse the more than 2 million items up for bid at any time. You never know what you might find at eBay! http://clickhere./click/1140 -- 20 megs of disk space in your group's Document Vault -- /docvault/ectopicpregnancy/?m=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 1999 Report Share Posted November 17, 1999 Sonja, I agree, I will wait for tomorrow. I'm going to discount this day's temps. Other than that my temps have been following a visible pattern. Scroll ttc mentioned Ok - that should be enough. I am definitely way past O this month. While we are not really aiming to get pg until Jan - I have not been taking preventative measures. I should see a drop by Monday or Tuesday and AF should arrive. If not I will test. We are starting to get excited too. Dh wants to try now in December. I should O around the first of December. I'm just wondering what would be my due date. I'm calculating the end of August - do you agree. Of course, I'm being a little presumptuous imagining I could get pg on our first time out. I think I've reentered denial. I feel like everything will be OK and I'll have no problems. I should probably be a bit more realistic. Other than that I'm OK. Work is really sucking. I'm thinking about taking a year off after the baby. We're just not sure if we can swing it on one salary. Let me know how you are doing. Tara No Subject , This morning my temp dropped below the 98 coverline. It went to 97.8. I had trouble sleeping and I have a lot on my mind. It is only day 24 so I can't understand why it would drop already. Do you think my insomnia had anything to do w/ it. Should I wait and see what tomorrow's temp is before I draw any conclusions? Tara ------------------------------------------------------------------------ A shopper's dream come true! Find practically anything on earth at eBay! Come and browse the more than 2 million items up for bid at any time. You never know what you might find at eBay! http://clickhere./click/1140 -- 20 megs of disk space in your group's Document Vault -- /docvault/ectopicpregnancy/?m=1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ A shopper's dream come true! Find practically anything on earth at eBay! Come and browse the more than 2 million items up for bid at any time. You never know what you might find at eBay! http://clickhere./click/1140 eGroups.com Home: /group/ectopicpregnancy/ - Simplifying group communications Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 1999 Report Share Posted November 30, 1999 Amy: For me it was two months after the hsg Hugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 1999 Report Share Posted December 9, 1999 You guys crack me up! What a visual! L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 1999 Report Share Posted December 9, 1999 Dear Stacey, The R.E. sais that the cost was $8000 for EVERYTHING, but when I asked the girl in the office who does the Insurance billing she said that there was a range of $7500 to $9000 for a typical IVF round. So, I can live with that! And, Insurance pays $3000, now that IS lifetime, but some of the procedures (U/S, venipuncture,ofc vst, ect. are not part of the $3000 and are covered like a regular OB visit. I am sending a letter to the Ins Co with the codes and stuff to get an idea of what is taken care of and approx. what we have to plan for. IF we end up going this route!! Take Care, , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 1999 Report Share Posted December 9, 1999 hey does that 8,000 include all those shots and pills that aren't covered by insurance. the 15,000 included everything and they say that you might get re-imbursed 1-2,000 of it at the end. Krista helped me on the whole meds included or not thing. I kinda didn't like the fact that they were included because I could shop around and get the best price for myself. I the end I think it all is probably the same it's just how it's spelled out. I would be interested to know if that 8,000 includes everything. Also the fact that you insurance pays anything is AWESOME!!!!! Mine wouldn't even consider it. I called and checked into it. They would cover a seamen analysis and some initial bloodwork. Both have already been done so it wouldn't be needed. Although now my husband thinks he has super sperm because he came back above average on most the stuff. I think he believes the little buggers are wearing superman capes. he is one of nine children......I would believe it!! Look into that and let me know....thanks Stacey M. Re: No Subject >Dear Stacey M, > >I am going to start after AF this month. That should be on Christmas Day >(oh joy!). >The R.E. wants to have me in on CD12 for the ultrasound. If what he suspects >is true, that my left tube is in worse shape than the right, then this >monitoring will >probably not be advantageous. On the other hand, it could just be fine and i >may have just been really unlucky in that i've conceived so many times from >the right side. Who knows! Again, the old left ovary/right tube and vice >versa was discussed >and he believes that BOTH tubes attempt to retreive eggs after ovulation and >the closer one obviously wins out in most cases. But, in my case, or so he >thinks, the left tube is unable to do anything. So, the right one is where I >am getting pregnant in and it isn't in really good shape either. He wants to >do another HSG (its been 2.5 yrs since the last) to see if there is anything >evident from that, but he says that HSG is a crude assessment of the interior >of the tube. > >Anyway, thanks for listening. > >And, geez, that $15000 was what I had always thought the cost was, so when he >told me $8000 I was a lot more interested in it!!!! > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >GET $100 IN COUPONS FOR TRYING GATOR! >Grab the Gator! Free software does all the typing for you! >Gator fills in forms and remembers passwords with NO TYPING at over >100,000 web sites! http://clickhere./click/2093 > >-- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! >-- /cal?listname=ectopicpregnancy & m=1 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 1999 Report Share Posted December 9, 1999 Superman capes LOL It takes so little to please our men sometimes doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 1999 Report Share Posted December 13, 1999 Pam is right in that you should be limited in the number of consecutive cycles you take clomid without a break. I have read 4-6 cycles are the limit, but then with a break of a few months you can go back on it for another round. I was scheduled to take it myself to help regulate hormone levels, but did not get the chance. I have heard a lot of success stories with clomid, especially monitored treatment, so hopefully it will do the trick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 1999 Report Share Posted December 15, 1999 scroll - ttc Tara - I'm sorry, I felt the same way last month. It is amazing though how fast the time between AFs flies. I am already expecting her again tomorrow. When I was late last month I took the hpt and it was negative but the doctor did a blood test anyway because i had a false negative before. Have you had a false negative? It is so hard especially this month with the holidays. Everyone is so cheery and festive and all I can think about is getting my period. Well, hopefully Santa will bring us all an extra special surprise this year. Take care - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 1999 Report Share Posted December 15, 1999 , scroll ttc No I haven't had a false positive before. But I've never been late either. So if I'm late and still no sign of AF, even with another negative test I'll still go for the blood test. Keep your fingers crossed. Tara Re: No Subject scroll - ttc Tara - I'm sorry, I felt the same way last month. It is amazing though how fast the time between AFs flies. I am already expecting her again tomorrow. When I was late last month I took the hpt and it was negative but the doctor did a blood test anyway because i had a false negative before. Have you had a false negative? It is so hard especially this month with the holidays. Everyone is so cheery and festive and all I can think about is getting my period. Well, hopefully Santa will bring us all an extra special surprise this year. Take care - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ GRAB THE GATOR! FREE SOFTWARE DOES ALL THE TYPING FOR YOU! Gator fills in forms and remembers passwords with NO TYPING at over 100,000 web sites! Get $100 in coupons for trying Gator! http://clickhere./click/2092 -- Check out your group's private Chat room -- /ChatPage?listName=ectopicpregnancy & m=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2000 Report Share Posted February 11, 2000 Sonja: If the PMS thing were merely a state of mind, then we could " psych " ourselves into dealing with it in a different way. It is biological though, not mental. Our reactions and feelings are the result of chemical (hormonal) changes in our body. Some people report being able to deal with it better by changes in diet, but even that suggests a chemical reaction between the sugars/caffeine/etc in foods and our hormone levels in the bloodstream. I try hard to remind myself of the hormones raging, and I remind the dh of them as well, but sometimes all you can do is ride out the storm. Mine make me very emotional - I cry for the stupidest things, sometimes for no reason at all. I am irritable to a degree also, but it is the weepy thing that drives me nuts. take special care sweetie, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2000 Report Share Posted February 11, 2000 , The diet thing does work sometimes though. I was told to stay off dairy from 3 days before AF till she leaves, and the times that I have done this, I did feel much better, but I am a milk addict, so doing that every month is practically impossible for me. As a child I was allergic to dairy, so when I could eventually start drinking proper milk (as opposed to the horrible vegetable stuff I was used to) I went bananas! (I was about 14) LOL. anyways,thanks. sonja Re: No Subject Sonja: If the PMS thing were merely a state of mind, then we could " psych " ourselves into dealing with it in a different way. It is biological though, not mental. Our reactions and feelings are the result of chemical (hormonal) changes in our body. Some people report being able to deal with it better by changes in diet, but even that suggests a chemical reaction between the sugars/caffeine/etc in foods and our hormone levels in the bloodstream. I try hard to remind myself of the hormones raging, and I remind the dh of them as well, but sometimes all you can do is ride out the storm. Mine make me very emotional - I cry for the stupidest things, sometimes for no reason at all. I am irritable to a degree also, but it is the weepy thing that drives me nuts. take special care sweetie, ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Valentine's Day Shopping Made Simple. Click Here! http://click./1/1147/2/_/26068/_/950283482/ -- Check out your group's private Chat room -- /ChatPage?listName=ectopicpregnancy & m=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2000 Report Share Posted February 11, 2000 Tara, so how are you doing? AF still staying away? The pms symptoms are gone this morning,and AF is still not here, so who knows? I am still waiting it out till day 36 though, which would be next Friday. take care sonja No Subject O.k. so I don't know what is going on , but I think that AF will show up within the next day or so, as I have suddenly hit that 'I hate everybody' stage where everything and anyone seems to be against me feeling. You know what I mean? Don't know why, but this always happens to me shortly before she shows.I just get really irritable and frustrated and feel really fat and all that pms stuff. What I find strange about the female body, is how can you feel all these things,know it is only hormonal, but still not be able to change the way you feel.I say to myself " sonja, this is pms, don't take things so seriously " but I still do,and everything still feels 10 times more drastic than what they really are. Anyone else have this, or is it just me? And we call men weird..... have a good evening girls sonja ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If you want to be single again, Don't buy your Valentine a Gift by clicking here. http://click./1/1153/2/_/26068/_/950282894/ -- Check out your group's private Chat room -- /ChatPage?listName=ectopicpregnancy & m=1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Unique Valentine gifts, available now at eGroups. http://click./1/1154/2/_/26068/_/950283473/ -- Create a poll/survey for your group! -- /vote?listname=ectopicpregnancy & m=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 Sonja: I am a milk addict too, so I would have a hard time with that as well. One of the things I heard was to stay away from refined sugar, chocolate, and caffeine during this time as well, but that is when I would get the worst cravings for these very things, so it was so hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2000 Report Share Posted February 23, 2000 Nora, I am sorry that things are still not going good. Please know that you can talk to us at any time, okay? We all go through this with our significant others, and it is not easy to deal with, especially with everything else that we are going through... Take care, Krista Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2000 Report Share Posted February 23, 2000 Hi Ladies, I am having such a terrible day. I am so upset. The dh and I have been having problems for months. It just seems to get worse. I think I am going to leave and never look back. I want you all to know that I love each and everyone of you very much and will miss you all if this comes to pass. Take care Nora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2000 Report Share Posted February 24, 2000 Nora: I really don't know what your situation is, and I hate to oversimplify things, but have you and your dh considered any type of counseling or intervention to help improve your relationship/marriage? Even if he won't go, it might help you feel better just to talk to someone so you can make decisions rationally. Please know that we are ALL here for you, and that I am praying for you and your family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2000 Report Share Posted February 24, 2000 , I am always open to suggestions. There are just so many things that keep us together. Not the things that should keep us together but other things. I have wrote him letters before expressing my feelings and how I feel like a nobody in his life. All he says is " Nora you know I always put you first " . Which is just a lie. He stays on the telephone or visits with his friends. He comes in the house after work long enough to eat dinner and then he is gone. He comes in right at bedtime tired. Then he wants something to do with me long enough to satisfy himself and then he goes to sleep. Sometimes he doesn't even kiss me when we make love. I just feel so rejected and so unwanted. I just wish things were different. I am sorry to be dumping my problems off on you guys. I hope that you all have a great day. Nora Re: No Subject >Nora - I hate to be intrusive but I'd like to help if I can...with , >talking never worked, because he would cut in before i finished, I woudl get >angry....writing things down when I am feeling them and letting him read was >much more effective before we came to realize and accept that we both have >different communication styles...I like to talk about a problem unitl it is >solved. doesn't let things stree him out - he waits for a solution to >come. So, as you can imagine we both had to compromise a lot. > >I don't think anyone in the group knows that I was married before . For >a whole 4 months (too long) and I can honestly say they day I made the >decision to leave a huge weight was lifted from my shoulders. I had to be >selfish and think of myself, my feelings and what I wanted from life and a >relationship. I have never looked back - and I met and fell in love with > 2 weeks later, and we were married 6 months after that. > >I guess I just wanted to give you two opinions from someone whose expereinced >it all! Tell me to shut up if I am over stepping my bounds. > >Thinking of you, > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >-- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! >-- /cal?listname=ectopicpregnancy & m=1 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2000 Report Share Posted February 24, 2000 Nora, Sorry sweetie, it really sounds like you are having a terrible time. I hope you can work things out, but if you can't then we will be here for you to help through the rough spots. take care, and remember that we care about you, and you aren't alone. (((((hug))))) sonja No Subject Hi Ladies, I am having such a terrible day. I am so upset. The dh and I have been having problems for months. It just seems to get worse. I think I am going to leave and never look back. I want you all to know that I love each and everyone of you very much and will miss you all if this comes to pass. Take care Nora ------------------------------------------------------------------------ As easy as A-B-C! Your child's next birthday party will be a cinch with one of 70 new party packages from GreatEntertaining.com. Invitations, paper goods, favors, blowouts, balloons, cakes & more. http://click./1/1472/2/_/26068/_/951344525/ -- Check out your group's private Chat room -- /ChatPage?listName=ectopicpregnancy & m=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2000 Report Share Posted February 25, 2000 Nora, well, good luck sweetie,and please remember that we are all here for you, all of the time, if you need us. I hope things get sorted out. take care' sonja No Subject > > >Hi Ladies, > >I am having such a terrible day. I am so upset. The dh and I have been >having problems for months. It just seems to get worse. I think I am >going >to leave and never look back. I want you all to know that I love each >and >everyone of you very much and will miss you all if this comes to pass. >Take >care > >Nora > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- - >As easy as A-B-C! Your child's next birthday party will be a cinch >with one of 70 new party packages from GreatEntertaining.com. >Invitations, paper goods, favors, blowouts, balloons, cakes & more. >http://click./1/1472/2/_/26068/_/951344525/ > >-- Check out your group's private Chat room >-- /ChatPage?listName=ectopicpregnancy & m=1 > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- - >What Your Home Is Worth? Find Out Instantly! >http://click./1/1584/2/_/26068/_/951463971/ > >-- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! >-- /cal?listname=ectopicpregnancy & m=1 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ One email address - many people! Start a free email group on eGroups! http://click./1/1887/2/_/26068/_/951507863/ -- 20 megs of disk space in your group's Document Vault -- /docvault/ectopicpregnancy/?m=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2000 Report Share Posted February 26, 2000 Sonja, Thank you very much. Everyone has been so helpful. I love you guys!!! Nora No Subject >> >> >>Hi Ladies, >> >>I am having such a terrible day. I am so upset. The dh and I have >been >>having problems for months. It just seems to get worse. I think I am >>going >>to leave and never look back. I want you all to know that I love each >>and >>everyone of you very much and will miss you all if this comes to pass. >>Take >>care >> >>Nora >> >> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------- >- >>As easy as A-B-C! Your child's next birthday party will be a cinch >>with one of 70 new party packages from GreatEntertaining.com. >>Invitations, paper goods, favors, blowouts, balloons, cakes & more. >>http://click./1/1472/2/_/26068/_/951344525/ >> >>-- Check out your group's private Chat room >>-- /ChatPage?listName=ectopicpregnancy & m=1 >> >> >> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------- >- >>What Your Home Is Worth? Find Out Instantly! >>http://click./1/1584/2/_/26068/_/951463971/ >> >>-- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! >>-- /cal?listname=ectopicpregnancy & m=1 >> >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >One email address - many people! >Start a free email group on eGroups! >http://click./1/1887/2/_/26068/_/951507863/ > >-- 20 megs of disk space in your group's Document Vault >-- /docvault/ectopicpregnancy/?m=1 > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Shop the web for great deals. Save on Computers, >electronics, Home furnishings and more. >http://click./1/1559/2/_/26068/_/951551066/ > >-- 20 megs of disk space in your group's Document Vault >-- /docvault/ectopicpregnancy/?m=1 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2000 Report Share Posted February 28, 2000 Nora, I'm lousy at giving advice but wanted to say that said it perfect. I hope you can work out something no matter what it is. Please know that, even though it has been said many times, we are all here for you no matter what you want to talk about. I consider everyone here my extended family and you're a part of that so here's one more shoulder to lean on. Thinking of you, L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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