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Hi All ... back when I was on a site for breast cancer, they talked about Bison. The place they referred me to is:

Northstar Bison Phone: 715 234 1496

1936 28th Ave Fax : 715 234 9085

Rice Lake, WI 54868 Website: www.northstarbison.com

They say, "largest distributors of 100% grassfed bison mead in the Midwest." It is a little expensive. They'll ship it frozen to your door. I ordered it for awhile. I was a little expensive. I liked it.

I'll probably check into again.

LCL in polis, MD

-------------- Original message -------------- From: Rogene S <saxony01@...>

Kenda,

If you were served ground Bison, it's unlikely you'd know there was any difference.

I saw some Bison "steak" . . . but I hesitated to buy that because it's so lean, and being grass fed, it's likely to be pretty tough. . .

When I was a kid, we ate grass fed, free range beef (Dad ranched for a while). . . Compared with the beef we eat now, it was really tough. . . The only way to get us kids to eat it was to grind it up into hamburger.

I think the flavor is a little stronger because of the different balance of fat to lean. . . The ground meat is very good.

One local resturant offers Bison, in place of Beef hamburgers, for a $2.00 premium.

Rogene

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Lynn, I was telling my mom about your story with the hormone injections etc... She went through a very similar ordeal to you and she told me that those injections were just awful and made her feel horrible!! She said they were worse than the multiple surgeries she had for her endometriosis. I suspect that they are really doing a number on your body right now. The good news is that she recovered from all of it and now she feels great! I hope that you feel better soon:) Your explant is coming up so soon! The weeks will pass quickly and very soon you will be posting about how well your surgery went and how you feel relieved and better each day!!! Katy:)spinkscl <spinkscl@...> wrote: Thank you for the encouraging words. I am trying very hard to stay positive but my body feels as though it is failing and quickly! I am trying to do everything possible to be healthy and still, I am getting worse. I agree, I feel it is the implants. I don't know what the trigger was that started the downhill progress but it seems to be getting worse by the day. Two weeks seems like years. Hopefully the "flare" or whatever is happening settles down and I feel better soon.I am sorry to here you fibromyalgia is back. I am glad to see you have such a positive attitude. You take care, I know you have been through so much

with your health and your daughters.Love,Lynn> Hi all,> > Just having a really bad day. I found out

yesterday that my ANA > Profile is now 1:320, it was 1:160 in December when my health first > started failing. > > I went to my finally physcial therapist appoinment today. He said > there was nothing more that he could do for my hip pain, that he > believes it is all related to the auto-immune stuff. I just started > bawling on the way home. I am crying now as well. > > I feel like I am going to die. I drink water all day, yet I am still > thirsty. The top hard pallet of my mouth is yellow in color and I > have a rough spot up there. I have a hard, sore like growth on the > cuticle of my thumb nail. I have noticed that my head feels really > heavy, like my neck muscles are weakening. > > I am so very sad. I don't want to have a serious disease. I want to > get well and have a baby. Please, please tell me there is light at > the end of this dark

tunnel. You all are my only hope. You are the > only one who believes my implants are causing my health issues. I > really feel like I have something fatal that they haven't found. > > I am so sorry that I am such a downer. I just feel so horrible > physically. > > God Bless you all for being here for me,> Lynn> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Bored stiff? Loosen up...> Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games.>

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- Sorry to hear that you are hurting and your fibro is acting up. From what I have read here since last summer, it seems that many women experience a flare up of symptoms 2 weeks after explant. I'm sure this is a combination of biotoxins, recovering from surgery, the painkillers, the anesthetic, etc etc... I hope it will pass for you quickly and you will be back on the road to feeling great!! Hugs! Katy:) <waltjenking@...> wrote: Lynn, I honestly am not sure how to answer this but I will try. I developed Fibromyalgia and many other things which some may have been due to many tramatic events in my life, but I also think the implants either caused it or made it worse, hindering me from getting better. I had my implants removed over two weeks ago and my Fibro is back full force...I too am feeling horribly am going through crying moments because I had really hope that the debilitating muscle pain and burning would go away. I feel, deep in my heart, that my implants were going to be the death of me...that they were making my symptoms worse. I have to believe that I have biotoxins that have been stirred up and it will take time for me to get better. Look how long it took for us to be sick...there is a lot of reversing that needs to be done. You've seen all of the stuff on implants and I know that you

know they have to come out. You are being explanted soon and it's very important for you to try to stay positive while you are heading toward this. It's okay to break down, but just remind yourself that you are taking the first step necessary and the rest will follow. Concentrate on explant...you are going to an awesome doctor...I am so glad I went to Huang. We are all here for you....just know that you can get better, but that unfortunately it won't be overnight like we all wish. You will get there...as we all will. We are all here for you....you are in a good place. Love, spinkscl <spinkscl > wrote: Hi all,Just having a really bad day. I found out yesterday that my ANA Profile is now 1:320, it was 1:160 in December when my

health first started failing. I went to my finally physcial therapist appoinment today. He said there was nothing more that he could do for my hip pain, that he believes it is all related to the auto-immune stuff. I just started bawling on the way home. I am crying now as well. I feel like I am going to die. I drink water all day, yet I am still thirsty. The top hard pallet of my mouth is yellow in color and I have a rough spot up there. I have a hard, sore like growth on the cuticle of my thumb nail. I have noticed that my head feels really heavy, like my neck muscles are weakening. I am so very sad. I don't want to have a serious disease. I want to get well and have a baby. Please, please tell me there is light at the end of this dark tunnel. You all are my only hope. You are the only one who believes my implants are causing my health issues. I really feel like I have something fatal that they

haven't found. I am so sorry that I am such a downer. I just feel so horrible physically. God Bless you all for being here for me,Lynn Bored stiff? Loosen up...Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games.

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Dear Lynn, Please don't let your imagination go wild thinking of all the terrible things that could be wrong. It is so frustrating being sick and feeling rotten ALL THE TIME!! I really relate... I'm sure everyone here has felt this way at one time or another... I was so frustrated this week with this chest infection not going away, feeling horrible and achey, missing so much work, worrying about my implants and how I would manage to find a Dr. and get the money to get them out, worrying about the lump in my breast...I just broke down and cried repeatedly. I fought with my boyfriend because he didn't know how to comfort me... We all have these moments... But there is HOPE! You are doing the right things... You are on the right track and you WILL find the key to regaining your health!! Please be as determined

as you can about this!! We are here to help each other when we need a little boost. Katy:) spinkscl <spinkscl@...> wrote: Hi all,Just having a really bad day. I found out yesterday that my ANA Profile is now 1:320, it was 1:160 in December when my health first started failing. I went to my finally physcial therapist appoinment today. He said there was nothing more that he could do for my hip pain, that he believes it is all related to the

auto-immune stuff. I just started bawling on the way home. I am crying now as well. I feel like I am going to die. I drink water all day, yet I am still thirsty. The top hard pallet of my mouth is yellow in color and I have a rough spot up there. I have a hard, sore like growth on the cuticle of my thumb nail. I have noticed that my head feels really heavy, like my neck muscles are weakening. I am so very sad. I don't want to have a serious disease. I want to get well and have a baby. Please, please tell me there is light at the end of this dark tunnel. You all are my only hope. You are the only one who believes my implants are causing my health issues. I really feel like I have something fatal that they haven't found. I am so sorry that I am such a downer. I just feel so horrible physically. God Bless you all for being here for me,Lynn

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Hi and Lynn,

Keep the faith, because for most of us it takes time before we're

feeling better. My symptoms were really bad for a few months after

explant and then gradually they improved.

Sis

> Hi all,

>

> Just having a really bad day. I found out yesterday that my ANA

> Profile is now 1:320, it was 1:160 in December when my health

first

> started failing.

>

> I went to my finally physcial therapist appoinment today. He said

> there was nothing more that he could do for my hip pain, that he

> believes it is all related to the auto-immune stuff. I just

started

> bawling on the way home. I am crying now as well.

>

> I feel like I am going to die. I drink water all day, yet I am

still

> thirsty. The top hard pallet of my mouth is yellow in color and I

> have a rough spot up there. I have a hard, sore like growth on the

> cuticle of my thumb nail. I have noticed that my head feels really

> heavy, like my neck muscles are weakening.

>

> I am so very sad. I don't want to have a serious disease. I want

to

> get well and have a baby. Please, please tell me there is light at

> the end of this dark tunnel. You all are my only hope. You are the

> only one who believes my implants are causing my health issues. I

> really feel like I have something fatal that they haven't found.

>

> I am so sorry that I am such a downer. I just feel so horrible

> physically.

>

> God Bless you all for being here for me,

> Lynn

>

>

>

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Dear Lynn ( & and Katy),

Lynn, I can so relate to your sadness and feeling of despair about

your health. I remember how I felt when I got sick from my

implants, and it was a horrible feeling. I felt so lost.

I just want you to know that even though things seem so bleak and

that physically you are at your lowest point, you can have hope for

your future because you have options. You know that you need to get

your implants out, and you are working toward that point. That will

be huge. Once those toxic bombs are removed, then you can work on

the healing that needs to be done. And there are many things you

can do to begin healing. It will be a process for sure, but you can

get better!

YOu can have hope because so many of us have been where you are now,

and we have a life again...and not only our life back, but for alot

of us, it's life BETTER. I believe that my experience made me a

much better person..... we have to find the silver lining. We have

to grow from this experience.

I believe you can get better, that you can have a baby someday (We

have had members have babies after explant and healing!) and that

you will be stronger for what you have experienced. It's not an

easy road, but you will learn so much as you travel this path of

renewal.

We're here for you! We may not always have all the answers, or all

the right answers, but we have had enough experience in recovery and

seeing others recover that I think we can say we know we are headed

in the right direction. You can grab this bull by the horns and

tame it, and make your life wonderful again. Have faith!

God bless,

Patty

> Hi all,

>

> Just having a really bad day. I found out yesterday that my ANA

> Profile is now 1:320, it was 1:160 in December when my health

first

> started failing.

>

> I went to my finally physcial therapist appoinment today. He said

> there was nothing more that he could do for my hip pain, that he

> believes it is all related to the auto-immune stuff. I just

started

> bawling on the way home. I am crying now as well.

>

> I feel like I am going to die. I drink water all day, yet I am

still

> thirsty. The top hard pallet of my mouth is yellow in color and I

> have a rough spot up there. I have a hard, sore like growth on the

> cuticle of my thumb nail. I have noticed that my head feels really

> heavy, like my neck muscles are weakening.

>

> I am so very sad. I don't want to have a serious disease. I want

to

> get well and have a baby. Please, please tell me there is light at

> the end of this dark tunnel. You all are my only hope. You are the

> only one who believes my implants are causing my health issues. I

> really feel like I have something fatal that they haven't found.

>

> I am so sorry that I am such a downer. I just feel so horrible

> physically.

>

> God Bless you all for being here for me,

> Lynn

>

>

>

>

>

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Rogene,

I may have to give it a try. I remember the first time I ate ground turkey

a few years ago, it gave me the creeps because it looked kind of like

hamburger but didn't taste like it. I eat it often now. I like nearly all

fruits and vegetables but I have a hard time with meats I never ate as a

child. I still won't touch lamb!

Kenda

> Kenda,

>

> If you were served ground Bison, it's unlikely you'd know there was any

> difference.

>

> I saw some Bison " steak " . . . but I hesitated to buy that because it's so

> lean, and being grass fed, it's likely to be pretty tough. . .

>

> When I was a kid, we ate grass fed, free range beef (Dad ranched for a while).

> . . Compared with the beef we eat now, it was really tough. . . The only way

> to get us kids to eat it was to grind it up into hamburger.

>

> I think the flavor is a little stronger because of the different balance of

> fat to lean. . . The ground meat is very good.

>

> One local resturant offers Bison, in place of Beef hamburgers, for a $2.00

> premium.

>

> Rogene

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Thanks, LCL. I'll keep the order info on hand in case I get brave.

Kenda

> Hi All ... back when I was on a site for breast cancer, they talked

> about Bison. The place they referred me to is:

>

> Northstar Bison Phone: 715 234 1496

> 1936 28th Ave Fax : 715 234 9085

> Rice Lake, WI 54868 Website: www.northstarbison.com

>

> They say, " largest distributors of 100% grassfed bison mead in the Midwest. "

> It is a little expensive. They'll ship it frozen to your door. I ordered it

> for awhile. I was a little expensive. I liked it.

>

> I'll probably check into again.

>

> LCL in polis, MD

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> From: Rogene S <saxony01@...>

> Kenda,

>

> If you were served ground Bison, it's unlikely you'd know there was any

> difference.

>

> I saw some Bison " steak " . . . but I hesitated to buy that because it's so

> lean, and being grass fed, it's likely to be pretty tough. . .

>

> When I was a kid, we ate grass fed, free range beef (Dad ranched for a while).

> . . Compared with the beef we eat now, it was really tough. . . The only way

> to get us kids to eat it was to grind it up into hamburger.

>

> I think the flavor is a little stronger because of the different balance of

> fat to lean. . . The ground meat is very good.

>

> One local resturant offers Bison, in place of Beef hamburgers, for a $2.00

> premium.

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

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Kenda,

I grew up on a farm, and we ate lamb, pork,

woodchuck, venison, beef, chicken, rabbit, trout,

and more. Pheasant, turkey, anything we could

get. We did not get any seafood, as trout was the only fish around.

Lamb is pretty good served with mint jelly. Not

my favorite, but Bob likes it, so I cook it sometimes.

I use ground chicken and turkey, and I mix them

with spices to season them. A lot more healthy

than some meats. I think you just have to know

how to season a lot of these things to enjoy

them. Lemon pepper really zips up ground turkey

and chicken. Garlic pepper, Salt free 17, lots of good spices out there.

Lynda

At 08:42 AM 4/1/2007, you wrote:

>Rogene,

>

>I may have to give it a try. I remember the first time I ate ground turkey

>a few years ago, it gave me the creeps because it looked kind of like

>hamburger but didn't taste like it. I eat it often now. I like nearly all

>fruits and vegetables but I have a hard time with meats I never ate as a

>child. I still won't touch lamb!

>

>Kenda

>

> > Kenda,

> >

> > If you were served ground Bison, it's unlikely you'd know there was any

> > difference.

> >

> > I saw some Bison " steak " . . . but I hesitated to buy that because it's so

> > lean, and being grass fed, it's likely to be pretty tough. . .

> >

> > When I was a kid, we ate grass fed, free

> range beef (Dad ranched for a while).

> > . . Compared with the beef we eat now, it was

> really tough. . . The only way

> > to get us kids to eat it was to grind it up into hamburger.

> >

> > I think the flavor is a little stronger because of the different balance of

> > fat to lean. . . The ground meat is very good.

> >

> > One local resturant offers Bison, in place of Beef hamburgers, for a $2.00

> > premium.

> >

> > Rogene

>

>

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You can buy buffalo (bison) in many stores these days.

Lynda

At 08:43 AM 4/1/2007, you wrote:

>Thanks, LCL. I'll keep the order info on hand in case I get brave.

>

>Kenda

>

> > Hi All ... back when I was on a site for breast cancer, they talked

> > about Bison. The place they referred me to is:

> >

> > Northstar Bison Phone: 715 234 1496

> > 1936 28th Ave Fax : 715 234 9085

> > Rice Lake, WI 54868 Website: www.northstarbison.com

> >

> > They say, " largest distributors of 100% grassfed bison mead in

> the Midwest. "

> > It is a little expensive. They'll ship it frozen to your door. I ordered it

> > for awhile. I was a little expensive. I liked it.

> >

> > I'll probably check into again.

> >

> > LCL in polis, MD

> >

> > -------------- Original message --------------

> > From: Rogene S <<mailto:saxony01%40>saxony01@...>

> > Kenda,

> >

> > If you were served ground Bison, it's unlikely you'd know there was any

> > difference.

> >

> > I saw some Bison " steak " . . . but I hesitated to buy that because it's so

> > lean, and being grass fed, it's likely to be pretty tough. . .

> >

> > When I was a kid, we ate grass fed, free range beef (Dad ranched

> for a while).

> > . . Compared with the beef we eat now, it was really tough. . .

> The only way

> > to get us kids to eat it was to grind it up into hamburger.

> >

> > I think the flavor is a little stronger because of the different balance of

> > fat to lean. . . The ground meat is very good.

> >

> > One local resturant offers Bison, in place of Beef hamburgers, for a $2.00

> > premium.

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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Isnt it odd how pre-conceived thoughts and ideas and judgements can put a wall between you and something wonderful? It is sort of like ...guilty until proven innocent. Living life confined like that, you miss out on many great things, and even, people.

Living life where anything at all is possible, and with eyes wide open, you can enjoy the true beauty of a much bigger and fuller life with no limitations on options, and oppertunity.

I have to say, God has carried me over many hurdles, leaving no question at all he exists, even to some friends that were not sure of his existance, til they saw me and my many miracles in life. I am truly blessed.........and I am thankful.

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Interesting Kenda . ..

I read an article about how children inately tend to avoid new foods. . The writer hypothized that this was natures way of protecting children from eating the wrong things. . . He said that children usually have to be offered a food several times before accepting it . . . The parents example plays a big role too.

My hubby has alot of food phobias without ever having tried them . . . The "idea" is enough to deter him from a lot of good foods.

He was chomping down on calamari one time, really enjoying himself . . Then he thought to ask what he was eating . . . When he learned it was squid, he quickly decided he didn't like it.

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Rogene,

My brother-in-law was eating what he thought were

crisp potatoes that came out of the crock

pot. He was remarking on how those crisper

potatoes had a great flavor. When told they were

turnips, he decided he did not like them.

Lynda

At 12:58 PM 4/1/2007, you wrote:

>Interesting Kenda . ..

>

>I read an article about how children inately

>tend to avoid new foods. . The writer hypothized

>that this was natures way of protecting children

>from eating the wrong things. . . He said that

>children usually have to be offered a food

>several times before accepting it . . . The

>parents example plays a big role too.

>

>My hubby has alot of food phobias without ever

>having tried them . . . The " idea " is enough to

>deter him from a lot of good foods.

>

>He was chomping down on calamari one time,

>really enjoying himself . . Then he thought to

>ask what he was eating . . . When he learned it

>was squid, he quickly decided he didn't like it.

>

>Rogene

>

>

[Guest guest]

Lynda,

Thanks for the seasoning ideas. I do like ground turkey and chicken a lot,

as well as traditional meats like chicken, turkey, some beef and fish. The

things my mom didn't cook when I was little like rabbit, pheasant, etc., I

just can't do.

Kenda

> Kenda,

>

> I grew up on a farm, and we ate lamb, pork,

> woodchuck, venison, beef, chicken, rabbit, trout,

> and more. Pheasant, turkey, anything we could

> get. We did not get any seafood, as trout was the only fish around.

>

> Lamb is pretty good served with mint jelly. Not

> my favorite, but Bob likes it, so I cook it sometimes.

>

> I use ground chicken and turkey, and I mix them

> with spices to season them. A lot more healthy

> than some meats. I think you just have to know

> how to season a lot of these things to enjoy

> them. Lemon pepper really zips up ground turkey

> and chicken. Garlic pepper, Salt free 17, lots of good spices out there.

>

> Lynda

>

>

>

> At 08:42 AM 4/1/2007, you wrote:

>

>> Rogene,

>>

>> I may have to give it a try. I remember the first time I ate ground turkey

>> a few years ago, it gave me the creeps because it looked kind of like

>> hamburger but didn't taste like it. I eat it often now. I like nearly all

>> fruits and vegetables but I have a hard time with meats I never ate as a

>> child. I still won't touch lamb!

>>

>> Kenda

>>

>>> Kenda,

>>>

>>> If you were served ground Bison, it's unlikely you'd know there was any

>>> difference.

>>>

>>> I saw some Bison " steak " . . . but I hesitated to buy that because it's so

>>> lean, and being grass fed, it's likely to be pretty tough. . .

>>>

>>> When I was a kid, we ate grass fed, free

>> range beef (Dad ranched for a while).

>>> . . Compared with the beef we eat now, it was

>> really tough. . . The only way

>>> to get us kids to eat it was to grind it up into hamburger.

>>>

>>> I think the flavor is a little stronger because of the different balance of

>>> fat to lean. . . The ground meat is very good.

>>>

>>> One local resturant offers Bison, in place of Beef hamburgers, for a $2.00

>>> premium.

>>>

>>> Rogene

>>

>>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Chili seasoning is great in turkey meatloaf. Onion soup mix (if you

can get the real thing, not artificial stuff) is good.

I always loved sage hens. Nice flavor.

I am not a big lover of some seafood, and cannot eat shellfish. I

seem to have a problem even with too much salmon. I cannot take

iodine. I cannot have kelp or vitamins with iodine. I wonder about

doing the iodine on the skin. I could not do an iodine douche when I

had an infection. I almost died from the iodine in an IV years ago.

Fish is great if you cover with lemon juice or lime juice, then

sprinkle well with dill and garlic pepper. Sounds good, I think I

will have that for dinner.

Lynda

At 03:33 PM 4/1/2007, you wrote:

>Lynda,

>

>Thanks for the seasoning ideas. I do like ground turkey and chicken a lot,

>as well as traditional meats like chicken, turkey, some beef and fish. The

>things my mom didn't cook when I was little like rabbit, pheasant, etc., I

>just can't do.

>

>Kenda

>

> > Kenda,

> >

> > I grew up on a farm, and we ate lamb, pork,

> > woodchuck, venison, beef, chicken, rabbit, trout,

> > and more. Pheasant, turkey, anything we could

> > get. We did not get any seafood, as trout was the only fish around.

> >

> > Lamb is pretty good served with mint jelly. Not

> > my favorite, but Bob likes it, so I cook it sometimes.

> >

> > I use ground chicken and turkey, and I mix them

> > with spices to season them. A lot more healthy

> > than some meats. I think you just have to know

> > how to season a lot of these things to enjoy

> > them. Lemon pepper really zips up ground turkey

> > and chicken. Garlic pepper, Salt free 17, lots of good spices out there.

> >

> > Lynda

> >

> >

> >

> > At 08:42 AM 4/1/2007, you wrote:

> >

> >> Rogene,

> >>

> >> I may have to give it a try. I remember the first time I ate ground turkey

> >> a few years ago, it gave me the creeps because it looked kind of like

> >> hamburger but didn't taste like it. I eat it often now. I like nearly all

> >> fruits and vegetables but I have a hard time with meats I never ate as a

> >> child. I still won't touch lamb!

> >>

> >> Kenda

> >>

> >>> Kenda,

> >>>

> >>> If you were served ground Bison, it's unlikely you'd know there was any

> >>> difference.

> >>>

> >>> I saw some Bison " steak " . . . but I hesitated to buy that

> because it's so

> >>> lean, and being grass fed, it's likely to be pretty tough. . .

> >>>

> >>> When I was a kid, we ate grass fed, free

> >> range beef (Dad ranched for a while).

> >>> . . Compared with the beef we eat now, it was

> >> really tough. . . The only way

> >>> to get us kids to eat it was to grind it up into hamburger.

> >>>

> >>> I think the flavor is a little stronger because of the

> different balance of

> >>> fat to lean. . . The ground meat is very good.

> >>>

> >>> One local resturant offers Bison, in place of Beef hamburgers,

> for a $2.00

> >>> premium.

> >>>

> >>> Rogene

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

>

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Hi Lynn, I spoke to my mom today and found out that she had those hormone injections (forget what they are called now) twice, each time before a surgery to remove the lining of her uterus. She said that the injections were the worst part and made her feel completely "out of whack" physically and emotionally. She said that she felt them to be out of her system and she felt mostly back to normal after a few months each time. She has always been a health nut. She said that her vitamins and supplements helped her, as well as excercise. Have you tried any hormone supplements such as Black Cohosh? She swears by it! I suspect that the other things going on with your body and the implants may add to your stress, but hopefully you will notice a big improvement as soon as your body can get the hormones balanced again!! Katy:) spinkscl <spinkscl@...> wrote: Thank you Katy.> > > Hi all,> > > > > > Just having a really bad day. I found out yesterday that my ANA > > > Profile is

now 1:320, it was 1:160 in December when my health > first > > > started failing. > > > > > > I went to my finally physcial therapist appoinment today. He said > > > there was nothing more that he could do for my hip pain, that he > > > believes it is all related to the auto-immune stuff. I just > started > > > bawling on the way home. I am crying now as well. > > > > > > I feel like I am going to die. I drink water all day, yet I am > > still > > > thirsty. The top hard pallet of my mouth is yellow in color and I > > > have a rough spot up there. I have a hard, sore like growth on > the > > > cuticle of my thumb nail. I have noticed that my head feels > really > > > heavy, like my neck muscles are weakening. > > > > > > I am so very sad. I

don't want to have a serious disease. I want > to > > > get well and have a baby. Please, please tell me there is light > at > > > the end of this dark tunnel. You all are my only hope. You are > the > > > only one who believes my implants are causing my health issues. I > > > really feel like I have something fatal that they haven't found. > > > > > > I am so sorry that I am such a downer. I just feel so horrible > > > physically. > > > > > > God Bless you all for being here for me,> > > Lynn> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > > Bored stiff? Loosen up...> > > Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games.> >

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Dear Lynn, Its a shame that financial woes and surgery costs add to our stress when we are sick, but you cannot put a price on health. Where there's a will, there's a way and I will find one!! Amazing how you can come up with $10,000 when you need to!! Finding the money to do my explant is teaching me that anything is possible and after this is paid off I plan to start working towards buying an apartment or condo... before I thought that was an impossible idea:) Katy:)spinkscl <spinkscl@...> wrote: Katy,You have such a positive energy. Especially with how sick you have been. I am so sorry to hear you have come down with a bug. I try to stay away from anybody who is sick at work because I know if I get sick it will only multiply my anxiety.I am trying my hardest to stay positive here. I know my surgery is in sight (only 12 days away). Right now God, this board and my sugery are my saving grace.I can relate to stress of coming up with the money for surgery. We spliting it out of three credit cards. Two w/ no interest until December 07. It was the best we could do. You take care of yourself and I hope you feel better soon. I pray that you find a doctor who will agree to do the explant w/ en bloc. Hugs,Lynn> Hi all,> > Just having a really bad day. I found out yesterday that my ANA > Profile is now 1:320, it was 1:160 in December when my health first > started failing. > > I went to my finally physcial therapist appoinment today. He said > there was nothing more that he could do for my hip pain, that he > believes it is all related to the auto-immune stuff. I just started > bawling on the way home. I am crying now as well. > > I feel like I am going to die. I drink water all day, yet I am still > thirsty. The top hard pallet of my mouth is yellow in color and I > have a rough spot up there. I have a hard, sore like growth on the > cuticle of my thumb nail. I have noticed

that my head feels really > heavy, like my neck muscles are weakening. > > I am so very sad. I don't want to have a serious disease. I want to > get well and have a baby. Please, please tell me there is light at > the end of this dark tunnel. You all are my only hope. You are the > only one who believes my implants are causing my health issues. I > really feel like I have something fatal that they haven't found. > > I am so sorry that I am such a downer. I just feel so horrible > physically. > > God Bless you all for being here for me,> Lynn> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> All new > ---------------------------------> Get news delivered. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page.>

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Black Cohosh really messed me up.

Lynda

At 07:19 PM 4/1/2007, you wrote:

>Hi Lynn,

>

>I spoke to my mom today and found out that she had those hormone

>injections (forget what they are called now) twice, each time before

>a surgery to remove the lining of her uterus. She said that the

>injections were the worst part and made her feel completely " out of

>whack " physically and emotionally. She said that she felt them to be

>out of her system and she felt mostly back to normal after a few

>months each time.

>

>She has always been a health nut. She said that her vitamins and

>supplements helped her, as well as excercise. Have you tried any

>hormone supplements such as Black Cohosh? She swears by it!

>

>I suspect that the other things going on with your body and the

>implants may add to your stress, but hopefully you will notice a big

>improvement as soon as your body can get the hormones balanced again!!

>

>Katy:)

>

>

>spinkscl <spinkscl@...> wrote:

>Thank you Katy.

>

>

> > > > Hi all,

> > > >

> > > > Just having a really bad day. I found out yesterday that my ANA

> > > > Profile is now 1:320, it was 1:160 in December when my health

> > first

> > > > started failing.

> > > >

> > > > I went to my finally physcial therapist appoinment today. He

>said

> > > > there was nothing more that he could do for my hip pain, that

>he

> > > > believes it is all related to the auto-immune stuff. I just

> > started

> > > > bawling on the way home. I am crying now as well.

> > > >

> > > > I feel like I am going to die. I drink water all day, yet I am

> > > still

> > > > thirsty. The top hard pallet of my mouth is yellow in color and

>I

> > > > have a rough spot up there. I have a hard, sore like growth on

> > the

> > > > cuticle of my thumb nail. I have noticed that my head feels

> > really

> > > > heavy, like my neck muscles are weakening.

> > > >

> > > > I am so very sad. I don't want to have a serious disease. I

>want

> > to

> > > > get well and have a baby. Please, please tell me there is light

> > at

> > > > the end of this dark tunnel. You all are my only hope. You are

> > the

> > > > only one who believes my implants are causing my health issues.

>I

> > > > really feel like I have something fatal that they haven't

>found.

> > > >

> > > > I am so sorry that I am such a downer. I just feel so horrible

> > > > physically.

> > > >

> > > > God Bless you all for being here for me,

> > > > Lynn

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Lynn, Oh no, well maybe after everything its just good to let the body return to homeostasis on its own. I bet the explant will help! The extra toxic load certainly doesn't help does it?!! Katy:)Lynda <coss@...> wrote: Black Cohosh really messed me up.LyndaAt 07:19 PM 4/1/2007, you wrote:>Hi Lynn,>>I spoke to my mom today and found out that she had those hormone >injections (forget what they are

called now) twice, each time before >a surgery to remove the lining of her uterus. She said that the >injections were the worst part and made her feel completely "out of >whack" physically and emotionally. She said that she felt them to be >out of her system and she felt mostly back to normal after a few >months each time.>>She has always been a health nut. She said that her vitamins and >supplements helped her, as well as excercise. Have you tried any >hormone supplements such as Black Cohosh? She swears by it!>>I suspect that the other things going on with your body and the >implants may add to your stress, but hopefully you will notice a big >improvement as soon as your body can get the hormones balanced again!!>>Katy:)>>>spinkscl <spinkscl > wrote:>Thank you

Katy.>>> > > > Hi all,> > > >> > > > Just having a really bad day. I found out yesterday that my ANA> > > > Profile is now 1:320, it was 1:160 in December when my health> > first> > > > started failing.> > > >> > > > I went to my finally physcial therapist appoinment today. He>said> > > > there was nothing more that he could do for my hip pain, that>he> > > > believes it is all related to the auto-immune stuff. I just> > started> > > > bawling on the way home. I am crying now as well.> > > >> > > > I feel like I am going to die. I drink water all day, yet I am> > > still> > > > thirsty. The top hard pallet of my mouth is yellow in color and>I> > > > have a rough spot up there. I have

a hard, sore like growth on> > the> > > > cuticle of my thumb nail. I have noticed that my head feels> > really> > > > heavy, like my neck muscles are weakening.> > > >> > > > I am so very sad. I don't want to have a serious disease. I>want> > to> > > > get well and have a baby. Please, please tell me there is light> > at> > > > the end of this dark tunnel. You all are my only hope. You are> > the> > > > only one who believes my implants are causing my health issues.>I> > > > really feel like I have something fatal that they haven't>found.> > > >> > > > I am so sorry that I am such a downer. I just feel so horrible> > > > physically.> > > >> > > > God Bless you all for being here for me,>

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I hope u r feeling better soon Kim. I hate being sick, as if the regular pain

isn't enough....we gotta get sick too? What the heck is up with that! I think we

all deserve a free pass from sickness...especially in the cold winter!

Deanna

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On Dec 12, 2008, at 2:36 PM, " kimleach " <kimleach@...> wrote:

Well I do not know why today decided to be different but I woke up very crappy

feeling. I have a cruddy cough and feel yucky so that may be contributing to my

feelings. I feel like I just want to crawl back in bed and not get up today. I

have work to do that I am behind on and I do not even want to start on it today

sigh.

My pain levels were up today I had to take more meds and up my stim levels quite

a bit today to even start to cover it.

Hopefully it will settle down soon

Kim

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Yeah it sucks for sure

Re: Rough Day

I hope u r feeling better soon Kim. I hate being sick, as if the regular pain

isn't enough....we gotta get sick too? What the heck is up with that! I think we

all deserve a free pass from sickness...especially in the cold winter!

Deanna

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On Dec 12, 2008, at 2:36 PM, " kimleach " <kimleach@...> wrote:

Well I do not know why today decided to be different but I woke up very crappy

feeling. I have a cruddy cough and feel yucky so that may be contributing to my

feelings. I feel like I just want to crawl back in bed and not get up today. I

have work to do that I am behind on and I do not even want to start on it today

sigh.

My pain levels were up today I had to take more meds and up my stim levels

quite a bit today to even start to cover it.

Hopefully it will settle down soon

Kim

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I just asked for my medical records and apparently the capsules were stuck to my

ribs and couldn't be removed. Now it all makes sense.

Our governments did this do us by approving them as safe. We should all go to

FDA headquarters on Breast Implant Survivor day and sit infront of the front

entrance to remind them we exist.

> >

> >

> > I hope chimes in here....she told me her ideas...

> > and they are good ones, but she will have to explain them.....

> >

> >

> >

> > When the power of love

> > overcomes the love of power

> > the world will know peace.

> > ~ Jimi Hendrix

> >

> >

> >

> > BI education pt 2

> >

> >   

> > Silicone gel filled breast implants and connective...[J Rheumatol. 1994] -

> >PubMed Result

> >

> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8182631

> > J Rheumatol. 1994 Feb;21(2):239-45.Links

> >

> > Comment in: J Rheumatol. 1994 Oct;21(10):1979-80.

> >

> > Silicone gel filled breast implants and connective tissue disease: an

> overview.

> >

> > Spiera RFSpiera RF, Gibofsky A, Spiera H.

> > Hospital for Special Surgery,

> > Cornell University Medical College, New York, NY 10021.

> > OBJECTIVE.

> > To review the literature examining the association of silicone gel filled

> >implants and connective tissue disease.

> > METHODS. Computerized literature searches and manual review of

bibliographies.

>

> > RESULTS.

> > Numerous concerns have arisen regarding the safety of silicone gel filled

> >breast implants. The structure of these prostheses is reviewed. Silicones are

> >not biologically inert. Injectable as well as implantable silicones have

proven

> >capable of eliciting inflammatory and fibroproliferative responses. Silicone

> >leakage from silicone gel filled implants is well documented as is distant

> >migration of silicone in the host. In the past decade, over 60 cases of

> >connective tissue disease following mammoplasty with silicone gel filled

> >implants have been reported. About half of these patients developed

scleroderma

> >or scleroderma-like illnesses. This reported overrepresentation of

scleroderma

> >compared to other rheumatic diseases mimics the Japanese experience with

> >injectable silicones. Possible biological rationale for the association is

> >presented.

> >

> >

> > CONCLUSION.

> > The physical and biological properties of silicone gel filled implants and

> >their behavior in vivo is compatible with the hypothesis that they may

> >contribute to the development of connective tissue disease. The association

> >seems most likely with scleroderma; however, there is as yet inadequate

> >epidemiological data to definitively establish causality.

> > PMID: 8182631 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > When the power of love

> > overcomes the love of power

> > the world will know peace.

> > ~ Jimi Hendrix

> >

>

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Okay now I'm curious

>

>

> , actually, it has been thought that some of the

> mysterious ways some people involved in the issue have

> passed, may be exactly that....

>

>

>

> When the power of love

> overcomes the love of power

> the world will know peace.

> ~ Jimi Hendrix

>

>

>

> Re: rough day

>

>

> I just asked for my medical records and apparently the capsules were stuck to

my ribs and couldn't be removed. Now it all makes sense.

>

> Our governments did this do us by approving them as safe. We should all go to

FDA headquarters on Breast Implant Survivor day and sit infront of the front

entrance to remind them we exist.

>