Guest guest Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Beth . . . Get in touch with Fuchs-sey <fuchsmorrissey@...> too . . . She's had genetic testing done on her family. She and her husband both have two bad HLA types. . . . Her three daughters are all affected by her implants. has been pushing for HLA typing long before Dr. Kolb, or most of the scientists ever dreamed of the connection with autoimmune diseases. Rogene kenda: mold genes Kenda,Would you mind sharing your HLA genes if you have the numbers available? I'd like to compare and see if we have the same mold genes.Thanks,Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Hi, Beth, Sure! What would like to know? I'd love to know yours too. Genes fascinate me. I'm going to a new MD today who has a reputation for working well with ND's. I don't care for my PCD and am hoping to replace him. I'm going to ask him his take on my numbers. I have a stack of labs for him to review. Kenda > Kenda, > Would you mind sharing your HLA genes if you have the numbers > available? I'd like to compare and see if we have the same mold genes. > > Thanks, > Beth > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Rogene, Do you know what the two HLA types are? I'm wondering if medical care should be tailed in anyway to genetic types. Dr. Leu has me on supplements because of my inflammatory genes. I also test positive for the double mold gene. Even though I was never implanted, genes would still affect my overall health. I'm seeing a new MD this afternoon and am going to ask him about my theory. Kenda > Beth . . . > > Get in touch with Fuchs-sey <fuchsmorrissey@...> too . . . > > She's had genetic testing done on her family. She and her husband both have > two bad HLA types. . . . Her three daughters are all affected by her implants. > > has been pushing for HLA typing long before Dr. Kolb, or most of the > scientists ever dreamed of the connection with autoimmune diseases. > > Rogene > > > kenda: mold genes > > Kenda, > Would you mind sharing your HLA genes if you have the numbers > available? I'd like to compare and see if we have the same mold genes. > > Thanks, > Beth > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 I'd love to compare. I'm not even sure I calculated mine right with the Rosetta Stone. I'll double check with the doc I'm seeing today -- if he even knows! As far as the purifiers go, I use them mainly because I have six cats inside and I don't want my house smelling like a litter box. When we had our mold problem, I used them throughout the house. They worked great for the mold and paint fumes. I'm very sensitive and thought I'd have to move out of the house for all of the work. The purifiers kept me home. Kenda > I thought I had my numbers at work, will email you back. I think > offhand I am DQ5 and DQ6, there are some other numbers that go along > with that, DRB1 numbers and something else. In the Mold Warriors > book, Dr. Shoemaker gives the numbers for mold, multisensitivity and > Lyme. > > I will check out those air purifiers, thanks!!!! > > hugs, > Beth > > > >> >> Hi, Beth, >> >> Sure! What would like to know? I'd love to know yours too. Genes >> fascinate me. >> >> I'm going to a new MD today who has a reputation for working well > with ND's. >> I don't care for my PCD and am hoping to replace him. I'm going > to ask him >> his take on my numbers. I have a stack of labs for him to > review. >> >> Kenda >> >> >>> Kenda, >>> Would you mind sharing your HLA genes if you have the numbers >>> available? I'd like to compare and see if we have the same mold > genes. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Beth >>> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Kenda, I looked through the messages I've saved of 's, but haven't found where she says which HLA types they have. She would probably be happy to discuss it with you. . . It's a major interest of hers. fuchsmorrissey@ hotmail.com Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Thank you, Rogene. I had my appointment with my new MD this afternoon. It was pretty interesting and SO comprehensive -- I was there for 5 hours. He ran all kinds of tests, blood tests, EKG, bone density, female hormones, etc. I mentioned candidiasis to him and he suggested xylitol and gave me an article he authored. I'll have to read it and if it's interesting, I'll scan it and post it. I am overwhelmed with everything we discussed. My female hormones are very low, as is my testosterone. He is formulating a cream for me to pick up tomorrow. I'm probably most excited about this. He also agrees with using iodine. I mentioned my work with this group and that I never chose to be implanted myself because of possible health risks. He agreed! He said that not only is the silicone problematic but the saline as well because of the potential for contaminated saline but the silicone shell as well. There is an ND who does applied kinesiology who practices in his office. He drug me down the hall for grins to see what he would say about implants. My muscle strength disappeared with the word implants! I wasn't surprised. I didn't get to discuss HLA types with him but I intend to in the future. Kenda > Kenda, > > I looked through the messages I've saved of 's, but haven't found where > she says which HLA types they have. > > She would probably be happy to discuss it with you. . . It's a major interest > of hers. fuchsmorrissey@ hotmail.com > > Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Wow Kenda! . . . Very interesting. Where did this doctor come from? . . . Overseas? I'm anxious to hear how it goes! We need more doctor's like him. Any comments on our group? . . . Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Beth, Can you tell me how to read the numbers on mine? Do I need a double gene to count or do the single genes count? Kenda > Kenda, I have my numbers. They are: > > (multisuspectible)DRB1 14, DQ5 and DRB3 52B. > > (mold) DRB1 13, DQ6, DRB3 52A,B,C > > > > -- In , Kenda Skaggs <lovesgoldens@...> > wrote: >> >> Thank you, Rogene. >> >> I had my appointment with my new MD this afternoon. It was pretty >> interesting and SO comprehensive -- I was there for 5 hours. He > ran all >> kinds of tests, blood tests, EKG, bone density, female hormones, > etc. I >> mentioned candidiasis to him and he suggested xylitol and gave me > an article >> he authored. I'll have to read it and if it's interesting, I'll > scan it and >> post it. I am overwhelmed with everything we discussed. My female > hormones >> are very low, as is my testosterone. He is formulating a cream for > me to >> pick up tomorrow. I'm probably most excited about this. He also > agrees >> with using iodine. I mentioned my work with this group and that I > never >> chose to be implanted myself because of possible health risks. He > agreed! >> He said that not only is the silicone problematic but the saline as > well >> because of the potential for contaminated saline but the silicone > shell as >> well. There is an ND who does applied kinesiology who practices in > his >> office. He drug me down the hall for grins to see what he would > say about >> implants. My muscle strength disappeared with the word implants! > I wasn't >> surprised. I didn't get to discuss HLA types with him but I intend > to in >> the future. >> >> Kenda >> >> >>> Kenda, >>> >>> I looked through the messages I've saved of 's, but haven't > found where >>> she says which HLA types they have. >>> >>> She would probably be happy to discuss it with you. . . It's a > major interest >>> of hers. fuchsmorrissey@ hotmail.com >>> >>> Rogene >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Rogene, He came from Kansas! He has opened an " integrative " office in Tulsa. I was in my sauna reading the articles he gave me, as well as browsing through the book he wrote. He is very interesting! I'll try to scan some of the articles tomorrow. He has written extensively on HRT as well. I'm excited about my cream. If it works well, he's going to consider implanting " pellets " of hormones into my abdomen. They are bioidentical and last 6 months. The neat thing about them is that your body takes only what it needs so it doesn't get overloaded like oral supplements or patches. Plus the pellets don't circulate through your liver because there is no excess. I'm reading that article now so I don't know much about it. I actually resorted to using the Vivelle Dot estrogen patch a few weeks ago because Dr. Leu hasn't been able to balance my hormones. They are crashing very quickly. Dr. Leu would treat me and retest and by the time he retested, I was already low again. Talk about a quick onset of menopause! To my surprise, and will be to Dr. Leu, I am not overloaded with the patch. It was his great fear that I would be overloaded with estrogen and increase my risk of female cancers. I am actually low and need more estrogen in addition to progesterone and testosterone. I'm really excited about this because I should feel the benefits through my entire body. He also found a heart abnormality I didn't know I have so I'll need additional testing for it. I have a systolic click. He spoke of apple cider vinegar, gluten intolerance, memory fog, C-Reactive Protein and ways to get it down, adrenal fatigue, HRT controversy and breast cancer, Vitamin D, iodine, D-Ribose for the heart and fibro, healthy fish and more that I can't even remember. It was fascinating! A quick test the ND in his office told me about to test for gluten sensitivity is to look at your fingers when your hand is flat with your fingers pointing upward, your wrist downward. Look at your pinky and ring finger. If your pinky is below the top digit line of your ring finger, you likely are gluten intolerant. There is a syndrome name associated with this. My (celiac) daughter and I both have this, my son does not. Can't wait for my husband to get home. I am wondering if my celiac tests and biopsy were all negative because I rarely eat gluten! Duh, I had never thought about that! I stopped eating when my daughter was diagnosed three years ago. I very rarely eat anything with gluten in it. I'll try to get the articles scanned tomorrow afternoon. Kenda > Wow Kenda! . . . Very interesting. > > Where did this doctor come from? . . . Overseas? > > I'm anxious to hear how it goes! > > We need more doctor's like him. > > Any comments on our group? . . . > > Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Kenda, I am so happy for you. YOu sound so excited and I can' twait to see what you have to tell us. ! > > Rogene, > > He came from Kansas! He has opened an " integrative " office in Tulsa. I was > in my sauna reading the articles he gave me, as well as browsing through the > book he wrote. He is very interesting! I'll try to scan some of the > articles tomorrow. He has written extensively on HRT as well. I'm excited > about my cream. If it works well, he's going to consider implanting > " pellets " of hormones into my abdomen. They are bioidentical and last 6 > months. The neat thing about them is that your body takes only what it > needs so it doesn't get overloaded like oral supplements or patches. Plus > the pellets don't circulate through your liver because there is no excess. > I'm reading that article now so I don't know much about it. I actually > resorted to using the Vivelle Dot estrogen patch a few weeks ago because Dr. > Leu hasn't been able to balance my hormones. They are crashing very > quickly. Dr. Leu would treat me and retest and by the time he retested, I > was already low again. Talk about a quick onset of menopause! To my > surprise, and will be to Dr. Leu, I am not overloaded with the patch. It > was his great fear that I would be overloaded with estrogen and increase my > risk of female cancers. I am actually low and need more estrogen in > addition to progesterone and testosterone. I'm really excited about this > because I should feel the benefits through my entire body. He also found a > heart abnormality I didn't know I have so I'll need additional testing for > it. I have a systolic click. He spoke of apple cider vinegar, gluten > intolerance, memory fog, C-Reactive Protein and ways to get it down, > adrenal fatigue, HRT controversy and breast cancer, Vitamin D, iodine, > D-Ribose for the heart and fibro, healthy fish and more that I can't even > remember. It was fascinating! A quick test the ND in his office told me > about to test for gluten sensitivity is to look at your fingers when your > hand is flat with your fingers pointing upward, your wrist downward. Look > at your pinky and ring finger. If your pinky is below the top digit line of > your ring finger, you likely are gluten intolerant. There is a syndrome > name associated with this. My (celiac) daughter and I both have this, my > son does not. Can't wait for my husband to get home. I am wondering if > my celiac tests and biopsy were all negative because I rarely eat gluten! > Duh, I had never thought about that! I stopped eating when my daughter was > diagnosed three years ago. I very rarely eat anything with gluten in it. > > I'll try to get the articles scanned tomorrow afternoon. > > Kenda > > > > > Wow Kenda! . . . Very interesting. > > > > Where did this doctor come from? . . . Overseas? > > > > I'm anxious to hear how it goes! > > > > We need more doctor's like him. > > > > Any comments on our group? . . . > > > > Rogene > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Hi Kenda, If you give me all your numbers, I'll place them on the " rosetta stone " as he calls it. LabCorp gives you five categories, DRB1, DQ, DRB3, DRB5. The numbers will be translated into B1, DQ, 52(a,b,c), 53 and 51. The numbers in each of the 5 categories on the report are excessive. He says to write down the first two numbers in each line, very important. When you see 03 as one of the genes for DRB1, rewrite it as 17. For B3 conversion, convert 01 to A, 02 to B, and 03 to C; this will give you 52A, 52B, 52C. B4 is 53. B5 is 51. hugs, Beth > >> > >> Thank you, Rogene. > >> > >> I had my appointment with my new MD this afternoon. It was pretty > >> interesting and SO comprehensive -- I was there for 5 hours. He > > ran all > >> kinds of tests, blood tests, EKG, bone density, female hormones, > > etc. I > >> mentioned candidiasis to him and he suggested xylitol and gave me > > an article > >> he authored. I'll have to read it and if it's interesting, I'll > > scan it and > >> post it. I am overwhelmed with everything we discussed. My female > > hormones > >> are very low, as is my testosterone. He is formulating a cream for > > me to > >> pick up tomorrow. I'm probably most excited about this. He also > > agrees > >> with using iodine. I mentioned my work with this group and that I > > never > >> chose to be implanted myself because of possible health risks. He > > agreed! > >> He said that not only is the silicone problematic but the saline as > > well > >> because of the potential for contaminated saline but the silicone > > shell as > >> well. There is an ND who does applied kinesiology who practices in > > his > >> office. He drug me down the hall for grins to see what he would > > say about > >> implants. My muscle strength disappeared with the word implants! > > I wasn't > >> surprised. I didn't get to discuss HLA types with him but I intend > > to in > >> the future. > >> > >> Kenda > >> > >> > >>> Kenda, > >>> > >>> I looked through the messages I've saved of 's, but haven't > > found where > >>> she says which HLA types they have. > >>> > >>> She would probably be happy to discuss it with you. . . It's a > > major interest > >>> of hers. fuchsmorrissey@ hotmail.com > >>> > >>> Rogene > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Thank you, . I am very excited. I love my ND but felt I should have an MD as well. This doc seems like he'll be a great asset to my health care. Kenda > Kenda, > I am so happy for you. YOu sound so excited and I can' twait to see > what you have to tell us. ! > > > >> >> Rogene, >> >> He came from Kansas! He has opened an " integrative " office in > Tulsa. I was >> in my sauna reading the articles he gave me, as well as browsing > through the >> book he wrote. He is very interesting! I'll try to scan some of > the >> articles tomorrow. He has written extensively on HRT as well. > I'm excited >> about my cream. If it works well, he's going to consider > implanting >> " pellets " of hormones into my abdomen. They are bioidentical and > last 6 >> months. The neat thing about them is that your body takes only > what it >> needs so it doesn't get overloaded like oral supplements or > patches. Plus >> the pellets don't circulate through your liver because there is no > excess. >> I'm reading that article now so I don't know much about it. I > actually >> resorted to using the Vivelle Dot estrogen patch a few weeks ago > because Dr. >> Leu hasn't been able to balance my hormones. They are crashing > very >> quickly. Dr. Leu would treat me and retest and by the time he > retested, I >> was already low again. Talk about a quick onset of menopause! To > my >> surprise, and will be to Dr. Leu, I am not overloaded with the > patch. It >> was his great fear that I would be overloaded with estrogen and > increase my >> risk of female cancers. I am actually low and need more estrogen > in >> addition to progesterone and testosterone. I'm really excited > about this >> because I should feel the benefits through my entire body. He > also found a >> heart abnormality I didn't know I have so I'll need additional > testing for >> it. I have a systolic click. He spoke of apple cider vinegar, > gluten >> intolerance, memory fog, C-Reactive Protein and ways to get it > down, >> adrenal fatigue, HRT controversy and breast cancer, Vitamin D, > iodine, >> D-Ribose for the heart and fibro, healthy fish and more that I > can't even >> remember. It was fascinating! A quick test the ND in his office > told me >> about to test for gluten sensitivity is to look at your fingers > when your >> hand is flat with your fingers pointing upward, your wrist > downward. Look >> at your pinky and ring finger. If your pinky is below the top > digit line of >> your ring finger, you likely are gluten intolerant. There is a > syndrome >> name associated with this. My (celiac) daughter and I both have > this, my >> son does not. Can't wait for my husband to get home. I am > wondering if >> my celiac tests and biopsy were all negative because I rarely eat > gluten! >> Duh, I had never thought about that! I stopped eating when my > daughter was >> diagnosed three years ago. I very rarely eat anything with gluten > in it. >> >> I'll try to get the articles scanned tomorrow afternoon. >> >> Kenda >> >> >> >>> Wow Kenda! . . . Very interesting. >>> >>> Where did this doctor come from? . . . Overseas? >>> >>> I'm anxious to hear how it goes! >>> >>> We need more doctor's like him. >>> >>> Any comments on our group? . . . >>> >>> Rogene >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Kenda, I was tested 9 years ago at 35 and had 0 testosterone.Nobody seems concerned about this but me, No wonder I am so bitchy. anyway my recent thyroid was 2.96 can you remind me I forget is that high or low? and also DHEA was 242. I guess this one looks normal? chollesterol was 246 just keeps climbing no clue why, and I looked up those blue rings around the irises that are all of a sudden there, two possibles, skin sloughing and toxins or high cholesterol ever heard of that one, this isn't just addressed to you but I was interested in the testosterone. I am starting back to work for the first time in three years starting tommorrow morning, I am so nervous and afraid with my fatigue and possible adrenal problems I wont be able to sustain myself, I sure could use some positive energy. Thanks girls, Aloha, Terri P --- In , Kenda Skaggs <lovesgoldens@...> wrote: > > Thank you, Rogene. > > I had my appointment with my new MD this afternoon. It was pretty > interesting and SO comprehensive -- I was there for 5 hours. He ran all > kinds of tests, blood tests, EKG, bone density, female hormones, etc. I > mentioned candidiasis to him and he suggested xylitol and gave me an article > he authored. I'll have to read it and if it's interesting, I'll scan it and > post it. I am overwhelmed with everything we discussed. My female hormones > are very low, as is my testosterone. He is formulating a cream for me to > pick up tomorrow. I'm probably most excited about this. He also agrees > with using iodine. I mentioned my work with this group and that I never > chose to be implanted myself because of possible health risks. He agreed! > He said that not only is the silicone problematic but the saline as well > because of the potential for contaminated saline but the silicone shell as > well. There is an ND who does applied kinesiology who practices in his > office. He drug me down the hall for grins to see what he would say about > implants. My muscle strength disappeared with the word implants! I wasn't > surprised. I didn't get to discuss HLA types with him but I intend to in > the future. > > Kenda > > > > Kenda, > > > > I looked through the messages I've saved of 's, but haven't found where > > she says which HLA types they have. > > > > She would probably be happy to discuss it with you. . . It's a major interest > > of hers. fuchsmorrissey@ hotmail.com > > > > Rogene > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Terri P, I can't remember....are you on anything for your thryoid/adrenal issues? What are your reference ranges for your test? I am going to guess and say your TSH and your DHEA both look high to me...but I would like to know the ranges before saying anything definitive. So is your cholesterol but you already know that. My DHEA was 6 (range 3 to 10). All the hormones are made from cholesterol. With a high cholesterol and low or 0 testosterone with possibly high TSH and DHEA....I'd venture to say you may be struggling with the same issue I was/am struggling with. DHEA increases....in the later stages of adrenal fatigue. Skin sloughing..??? You are the first person to mention this here. I had/have this too. The skin sloughing I have is " I can take my nails gently over my skin, and the dead skin comes right off and rolls up under my nails....daily. Is this what you are speaking of? How recent were you test TErri P.? > > > > Thank you, Rogene. > > > > I had my appointment with my new MD this afternoon. It was pretty > > interesting and SO comprehensive -- I was there for 5 hours. He > ran all > > kinds of tests, blood tests, EKG, bone density, female hormones, > etc. I > > mentioned candidiasis to him and he suggested xylitol and gave me > an article > > he authored. I'll have to read it and if it's interesting, I'll > scan it and > > post it. I am overwhelmed with everything we discussed. My female > hormones > > are very low, as is my testosterone. He is formulating a cream for > me to > > pick up tomorrow. I'm probably most excited about this. He also > agrees > > with using iodine. I mentioned my work with this group and that I > never > > chose to be implanted myself because of possible health risks. He > agreed! > > He said that not only is the silicone problematic but the saline as > well > > because of the potential for contaminated saline but the silicone > shell as > > well. There is an ND who does applied kinesiology who practices in > his > > office. He drug me down the hall for grins to see what he would > say about > > implants. My muscle strength disappeared with the word implants! > I wasn't > > surprised. I didn't get to discuss HLA types with him but I intend > to in > > the future. > > > > Kenda > > > > > > > Kenda, > > > > > > I looked through the messages I've saved of 's, but haven't > found where > > > she says which HLA types they have. > > > > > > She would probably be happy to discuss it with you. . . It's a > major interest > > > of hers. fuchsmorrissey@ hotmail.com > > > > > > Rogene > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Terri ~ Sending lots and lots of positive energy and prayers to you. I read up on cholestrol, and here in the US we use 200 as a marker, other places they use 300. We need cholestrol to help fight against strokes ! ! So, I guess we need to do some research on this. I will do it and make some posts reguarding this. BTW...you are suposed to have testosterone in your body........I dont know how much so I will look that up too......... Sending more positive energy to you and will go do some research ....Love and Hugs ~ DSee what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Hi Terri! Good luck with your new job, I'm sure you'll do great!! If you exhaust yourself, I'd buy some Isocort and see if it helps you. You can find it online and it is pretty cheap, around $24.00 for a bottle that will last quite a while. If you do have adrenal exhaustion, Isocort could really help you. It has been a lifesaver for me. Since you can buy Isocort online, you don't need to visit a doctor. If you do buy it, let me know and I'll help you with the directions. Zero testosterone is really strange. For DHEA, the normal range for my lab is 3-10, so 242 would be extremely high and a definite reason for being bitchy -- really, really bitchy! DHEA should convert into testosterone, sounds like it didn't in your case. Were you taking DHEA? If your Free T3 reading was 2.96, that's really pretty good. Normal range is 2.0 to 4.9 on the lab my new doctor uses. My ND likes to see the readings towards the upper end of normal. Kenda > Kenda, > I was tested 9 years ago at 35 and had 0 testosterone.Nobody seems > concerned about this but me, No wonder I am so bitchy. anyway my > recent thyroid was 2.96 can you remind me I forget is that high or > low? and also DHEA was 242. I guess this one looks normal? > chollesterol was 246 just keeps climbing no clue why, and I looked up > those blue rings around the irises that are all of a sudden there, > two possibles, skin sloughing and toxins or high cholesterol ever > heard of that one, this isn't just addressed to you but I was > interested in the testosterone. > I am starting back to work for the first time in three years starting > tommorrow morning, I am so nervous and afraid with my fatigue and > possible adrenal problems I wont be able to sustain myself, I sure > could use some positive energy. > Thanks girls, > Aloha, > Terri P > > > >> >> Thank you, Rogene. >> >> I had my appointment with my new MD this afternoon. It was pretty >> interesting and SO comprehensive -- I was there for 5 hours. He > ran all >> kinds of tests, blood tests, EKG, bone density, female hormones, > etc. I >> mentioned candidiasis to him and he suggested xylitol and gave me > an article >> he authored. I'll have to read it and if it's interesting, I'll > scan it and >> post it. I am overwhelmed with everything we discussed. My female > hormones >> are very low, as is my testosterone. He is formulating a cream for > me to >> pick up tomorrow. I'm probably most excited about this. He also > agrees >> with using iodine. I mentioned my work with this group and that I > never >> chose to be implanted myself because of possible health risks. He > agreed! >> He said that not only is the silicone problematic but the saline as > well >> because of the potential for contaminated saline but the silicone > shell as >> well. There is an ND who does applied kinesiology who practices in > his >> office. He drug me down the hall for grins to see what he would > say about >> implants. My muscle strength disappeared with the word implants! > I wasn't >> surprised. I didn't get to discuss HLA types with him but I intend > to in >> the future. >> >> Kenda >> >> >>> Kenda, >>> >>> I looked through the messages I've saved of 's, but haven't > found where >>> she says which HLA types they have. >>> >>> She would probably be happy to discuss it with you. . . It's a > major interest >>> of hers. fuchsmorrissey@ hotmail.com >>> >>> Rogene >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 , Is a high DHEA not converting into testosterone related to adrenal issues or could it be a hormonal problem instead? Terri's DHEA is extremely high! Kenda > Terri P, > I can't remember....are you on anything for your thryoid/adrenal > issues? > > What are your reference ranges for your test? I am going to guess > and say your TSH and your DHEA both look high to me...but I would > like to know the ranges before saying anything definitive. So is > your cholesterol but you already know that. > My DHEA was 6 (range 3 to 10). > > All the hormones are made from cholesterol. With a high cholesterol > and low or 0 testosterone with possibly high TSH and DHEA....I'd > venture to say you may be struggling with the same issue I was/am > struggling with. > DHEA increases....in the later stages of adrenal fatigue. > Skin sloughing..??? You are the first person to mention this here. > I had/have this too. The skin sloughing I have is " I can take my > nails gently over my skin, and the dead skin comes right off and > rolls up under my nails....daily. Is this what you are speaking of? > How recent were you test TErri P.? > > > > > >>> >>> Thank you, Rogene. >>> >>> I had my appointment with my new MD this afternoon. It was > pretty >>> interesting and SO comprehensive -- I was there for 5 hours. He >> ran all >>> kinds of tests, blood tests, EKG, bone density, female hormones, >> etc. I >>> mentioned candidiasis to him and he suggested xylitol and gave > me >> an article >>> he authored. I'll have to read it and if it's interesting, I'll >> scan it and >>> post it. I am overwhelmed with everything we discussed. My > female >> hormones >>> are very low, as is my testosterone. He is formulating a cream > for >> me to >>> pick up tomorrow. I'm probably most excited about this. He > also >> agrees >>> with using iodine. I mentioned my work with this group and that > I >> never >>> chose to be implanted myself because of possible health risks. > He >> agreed! >>> He said that not only is the silicone problematic but the saline > as >> well >>> because of the potential for contaminated saline but the > silicone >> shell as >>> well. There is an ND who does applied kinesiology who practices > in >> his >>> office. He drug me down the hall for grins to see what he would >> say about >>> implants. My muscle strength disappeared with the word > implants! >> I wasn't >>> surprised. I didn't get to discuss HLA types with him but I > intend >> to in >>> the future. >>> >>> Kenda >>> >>> >>>> Kenda, >>>> >>>> I looked through the messages I've saved of 's, but > haven't >> found where >>>> she says which HLA types they have. >>>> >>>> She would probably be happy to discuss it with you. . . It's a >> major interest >>>> of hers. fuchsmorrissey@ hotmail.com >>>> >>>> Rogene >>> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Hi , I knew implants would be bad for me but it was still interesting to see the kinesiologist tell me so. Kenda > Kenda, > > That sounds like a doctor to keep there.... I know Dr. Kolb has me on Iodine > and the progesterone cream, works wonders for me... NO More bad PMS.... That > was the worst at times I thought I was going to die each month... So great > they > did the resistance test for implants and the body said, " NO " My > Girlfriend and I test ourselves all the time, we have figured this out.... So > weird > how a few months you need this and then blam you don't need that any > longer.... > I did this on one of my friends for beer.... It said " NO " So guess same > thing, my friend and I have a wonderful kinesiologist we love him and he test > our > natural remedies all the time..... We usually are correct when we test one > another we just let him retest us to make sure.... Funny how from month to > month > or even day to day our bodies change and we need this one day we don't the > next.... I am a firm believer we can take to much and stuff we simply don't > need.... Some we need desperately..... Implants and Beer we do not need.... > LOL > > God Bless, > > ~ > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Kenda, Testosterone is made in the adrenal from cholesterol. If there is minimal conversion of cholesterol to testosterone....I suspect adrenals. Again, I am not a doctor...and this is a simplistic answer ..as there could be other answers as well. Some of the hormones are made in other parts of the body...like the ovaries, until they peeter out. So when I say testosterone is made in the adrenal...it is also the precursor horomones...that help make testosterone that I am talking about. I think I posted a link to Patty that showed all the hormonal regulations of the adrenal. When I get a chance I'll try to find it and send it to you. > >>> > >>> Thank you, Rogene. > >>> > >>> I had my appointment with my new MD this afternoon. It was > > pretty > >>> interesting and SO comprehensive -- I was there for 5 hours. He > >> ran all > >>> kinds of tests, blood tests, EKG, bone density, female hormones, > >> etc. I > >>> mentioned candidiasis to him and he suggested xylitol and gave > > me > >> an article > >>> he authored. I'll have to read it and if it's interesting, I'll > >> scan it and > >>> post it. I am overwhelmed with everything we discussed. My > > female > >> hormones > >>> are very low, as is my testosterone. He is formulating a cream > > for > >> me to > >>> pick up tomorrow. I'm probably most excited about this. He > > also > >> agrees > >>> with using iodine. I mentioned my work with this group and that > > I > >> never > >>> chose to be implanted myself because of possible health risks. > > He > >> agreed! > >>> He said that not only is the silicone problematic but the saline > > as > >> well > >>> because of the potential for contaminated saline but the > > silicone > >> shell as > >>> well. There is an ND who does applied kinesiology who practices > > in > >> his > >>> office. He drug me down the hall for grins to see what he would > >> say about > >>> implants. My muscle strength disappeared with the word > > implants! > >> I wasn't > >>> surprised. I didn't get to discuss HLA types with him but I > > intend > >> to in > >>> the future. > >>> > >>> Kenda > >>> > >>> > >>>> Kenda, > >>>> > >>>> I looked through the messages I've saved of 's, but > > haven't > >> found where > >>>> she says which HLA types they have. > >>>> > >>>> She would probably be happy to discuss it with you. . . It's a > >> major interest > >>>> of hers. fuchsmorrissey@ hotmail.com > >>>> > >>>> Rogene > >>> > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 -, My tests were two weeks ago. I just got the results and fired the Dr. He just kept saying all the numbers were fine even though they were marked with an H in the abnormal column. He just wanted to ignore ignore ignore , I am going back to work and have wasted ten years already on this stuff I don't have another ten to waste. All he he answered was have you seen a psychiatrist? I wanted to slap him instead I told him he was a waste of time and grabbed up my results and told him I was going to a Naturopath that would get to the bottom of things, and with that I walked out,That was on Monday Terri P -- In , " sedwards41255 " <sedwards41255@...> wrote: > > Terri P, > I can't remember....are you on anything for your thryoid/adrenal > issues? > > What are your reference ranges for your test? I am going to guess > and say your TSH and your DHEA both look high to me...but I would > like to know the ranges before saying anything definitive. So is > your cholesterol but you already know that. > My DHEA was 6 (range 3 to 10). > > All the hormones are made from cholesterol. With a high cholesterol > and low or 0 testosterone with possibly high TSH and DHEA....I'd > venture to say you may be struggling with the same issue I was/am > struggling with. > DHEA increases....in the later stages of adrenal fatigue. > Skin sloughing..??? You are the first person to mention this here. > I had/have this too. The skin sloughing I have is " I can take my > nails gently over my skin, and the dead skin comes right off and > rolls up under my nails....daily. Is this what you are speaking of? > How recent were you test TErri P.? > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, Rogene. > > > > > > I had my appointment with my new MD this afternoon. It was > pretty > > > interesting and SO comprehensive -- I was there for 5 hours. He > > ran all > > > kinds of tests, blood tests, EKG, bone density, female hormones, > > etc. I > > > mentioned candidiasis to him and he suggested xylitol and gave > me > > an article > > > he authored. I'll have to read it and if it's interesting, I'll > > scan it and > > > post it. I am overwhelmed with everything we discussed. My > female > > hormones > > > are very low, as is my testosterone. He is formulating a cream > for > > me to > > > pick up tomorrow. I'm probably most excited about this. He > also > > agrees > > > with using iodine. I mentioned my work with this group and that > I > > never > > > chose to be implanted myself because of possible health risks. > He > > agreed! > > > He said that not only is the silicone problematic but the saline > as > > well > > > because of the potential for contaminated saline but the > silicone > > shell as > > > well. There is an ND who does applied kinesiology who practices > in > > his > > > office. He drug me down the hall for grins to see what he would > > say about > > > implants. My muscle strength disappeared with the word > implants! > > I wasn't > > > surprised. I didn't get to discuss HLA types with him but I > intend > > to in > > > the future. > > > > > > Kenda > > > > > > > > > > Kenda, > > > > > > > > I looked through the messages I've saved of 's, but > haven't > > found where > > > > she says which HLA types they have. > > > > > > > > She would probably be happy to discuss it with you. . . It's a > > major interest > > > > of hers. fuchsmorrissey@ hotmail.com > > > > > > > > Rogene > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 , I am on thyroid, 50 mg Terri P > > > > > > Thank you, Rogene. > > > > > > I had my appointment with my new MD this afternoon. It was > pretty > > > interesting and SO comprehensive -- I was there for 5 hours. He > > ran all > > > kinds of tests, blood tests, EKG, bone density, female hormones, > > etc. I > > > mentioned candidiasis to him and he suggested xylitol and gave > me > > an article > > > he authored. I'll have to read it and if it's interesting, I'll > > scan it and > > > post it. I am overwhelmed with everything we discussed. My > female > > hormones > > > are very low, as is my testosterone. He is formulating a cream > for > > me to > > > pick up tomorrow. I'm probably most excited about this. He > also > > agrees > > > with using iodine. I mentioned my work with this group and that > I > > never > > > chose to be implanted myself because of possible health risks. > He > > agreed! > > > He said that not only is the silicone problematic but the saline > as > > well > > > because of the potential for contaminated saline but the > silicone > > shell as > > > well. There is an ND who does applied kinesiology who practices > in > > his > > > office. He drug me down the hall for grins to see what he would > > say about > > > implants. My muscle strength disappeared with the word > implants! > > I wasn't > > > surprised. I didn't get to discuss HLA types with him but I > intend > > to in > > > the future. > > > > > > Kenda > > > > > > > > > > Kenda, > > > > > > > > I looked through the messages I've saved of 's, but > haven't > > found where > > > > she says which HLA types they have. > > > > > > > > She would probably be happy to discuss it with you. . . It's a > > major interest > > > > of hers. fuchsmorrissey@ hotmail.com > > > > > > > > Rogene > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Kenda, I pretty much bite everyone ones head off, I keep telling everyone and even my gyno's office knows I have had run ins with them, I just don't have patience for any of these people any more, I am just spinning my wheels,The Isocort sounds like a really good idea to me, I will let you know when I am ready to purchase it.Thank you Terri P > >> > >> Thank you, Rogene. > >> > >> I had my appointment with my new MD this afternoon. It was pretty > >> interesting and SO comprehensive -- I was there for 5 hours. He > > ran all > >> kinds of tests, blood tests, EKG, bone density, female hormones, > > etc. I > >> mentioned candidiasis to him and he suggested xylitol and gave me > > an article > >> he authored. I'll have to read it and if it's interesting, I'll > > scan it and > >> post it. I am overwhelmed with everything we discussed. My female > > hormones > >> are very low, as is my testosterone. He is formulating a cream for > > me to > >> pick up tomorrow. I'm probably most excited about this. He also > > agrees > >> with using iodine. I mentioned my work with this group and that I > > never > >> chose to be implanted myself because of possible health risks. He > > agreed! > >> He said that not only is the silicone problematic but the saline as > > well > >> because of the potential for contaminated saline but the silicone > > shell as > >> well. There is an ND who does applied kinesiology who practices in > > his > >> office. He drug me down the hall for grins to see what he would > > say about > >> implants. My muscle strength disappeared with the word implants! > > I wasn't > >> surprised. I didn't get to discuss HLA types with him but I intend > > to in > >> the future. > >> > >> Kenda > >> > >> > >>> Kenda, > >>> > >>> I looked through the messages I've saved of 's, but haven't > > found where > >>> she says which HLA types they have. > >>> > >>> She would probably be happy to discuss it with you. . . It's a > > major interest > >>> of hers. fuchsmorrissey@ hotmail.com > >>> > >>> Rogene > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Congratulations Terri for taking your life back. You are a wonderful example for many of the women on this network who are addicted to allopathic medicine. Lynda At 10:18 AM 4/13/2007, you wrote: >-, >My tests were two weeks ago. I just got the results and fired the Dr. >He just kept saying all the numbers were fine even though they were >marked with an H in the abnormal column. He just wanted to ignore >ignore ignore , I am going back to work and have wasted ten years >already on this stuff I don't have another ten to waste. All he he >answered was have you seen a psychiatrist? I wanted to slap him >instead I told him he was a waste of time and grabbed up my results >and told him I was going to a Naturopath that would get to the bottom >of things, and with that I walked out,That was on Monday >Terri P > >-- In ><mailto: %40> , > " sedwards41255 " ><sedwards41255@...> wrote: > > > > Terri P, > > I can't remember....are you on anything for your thryoid/adrenal > > issues? > > > > What are your reference ranges for your test? I am going to guess > > and say your TSH and your DHEA both look high to me...but I would > > like to know the ranges before saying anything definitive. So is > > your cholesterol but you already know that. > > My DHEA was 6 (range 3 to 10). > > > > All the hormones are made from cholesterol. With a high >cholesterol > > and low or 0 testosterone with possibly high TSH and DHEA....I'd > > venture to say you may be struggling with the same issue I was/am > > struggling with. > > DHEA increases....in the later stages of adrenal fatigue. > > Skin sloughing..??? You are the first person to mention this >here. > > I had/have this too. The skin sloughing I have is " I can take my > > nails gently over my skin, and the dead skin comes right off and > > rolls up under my nails....daily. Is this what you are speaking >of? > > How recent were you test TErri P.? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, Rogene. > > > > > > > > I had my appointment with my new MD this afternoon. It was > > pretty > > > > interesting and SO comprehensive -- I was there for 5 hours. >He > > > ran all > > > > kinds of tests, blood tests, EKG, bone density, female >hormones, > > > etc. I > > > > mentioned candidiasis to him and he suggested xylitol and gave > > me > > > an article > > > > he authored. I'll have to read it and if it's interesting, >I'll > > > scan it and > > > > post it. I am overwhelmed with everything we discussed. My > > female > > > hormones > > > > are very low, as is my testosterone. He is formulating a cream > > for > > > me to > > > > pick up tomorrow. I'm probably most excited about this. He > > also > > > agrees > > > > with using iodine. I mentioned my work with this group and >that > > I > > > never > > > > chose to be implanted myself because of possible health risks. > > He > > > agreed! > > > > He said that not only is the silicone problematic but the >saline > > as > > > well > > > > because of the potential for contaminated saline but the > > silicone > > > shell as > > > > well. There is an ND who does applied kinesiology who practices > > in > > > his > > > > office. He drug me down the hall for grins to see what he >would > > > say about > > > > implants. My muscle strength disappeared with the word > > implants! > > > I wasn't > > > > surprised. I didn't get to discuss HLA types with him but I > > intend > > > to in > > > > the future. > > > > > > > > Kenda > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kenda, > > > > > > > > > > I looked through the messages I've saved of 's, but > > haven't > > > found where > > > > > she says which HLA types they have. > > > > > > > > > > She would probably be happy to discuss it with you. . . It's >a > > > major interest > > > > > of hers. fuchsmorrissey@ hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > Rogene > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Kewl, I want it too..........thank you ! ! ! ! ! ! See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 TerriP Is that " thyroid " as in the generic for Armour? > > > > > > > > Thank you, Rogene. > > > > > > > > I had my appointment with my new MD this afternoon. It was > > pretty > > > > interesting and SO comprehensive -- I was there for 5 hours. > He > > > ran all > > > > kinds of tests, blood tests, EKG, bone density, female > hormones, > > > etc. I > > > > mentioned candidiasis to him and he suggested xylitol and gave > > me > > > an article > > > > he authored. I'll have to read it and if it's interesting, > I'll > > > scan it and > > > > post it. I am overwhelmed with everything we discussed. My > > female > > > hormones > > > > are very low, as is my testosterone. He is formulating a cream > > for > > > me to > > > > pick up tomorrow. I'm probably most excited about this. He > > also > > > agrees > > > > with using iodine. I mentioned my work with this group and > that > > I > > > never > > > > chose to be implanted myself because of possible health risks. > > He > > > agreed! > > > > He said that not only is the silicone problematic but the > saline > > as > > > well > > > > because of the potential for contaminated saline but the > > silicone > > > shell as > > > > well. There is an ND who does applied kinesiology who practices > > in > > > his > > > > office. He drug me down the hall for grins to see what he > would > > > say about > > > > implants. My muscle strength disappeared with the word > > implants! > > > I wasn't > > > > surprised. I didn't get to discuss HLA types with him but I > > intend > > > to in > > > > the future. > > > > > > > > Kenda > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kenda, > > > > > > > > > > I looked through the messages I've saved of 's, but > > haven't > > > found where > > > > > she says which HLA types they have. > > > > > > > > > > She would probably be happy to discuss it with you. . . It's > a > > > major interest > > > > > of hers. fuchsmorrissey@ hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > Rogene > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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