Re: Hi again

[Guest guest]

For you I'd just recommend vitamins, with emphasis on C (at least 2g a

day) and Bs, to keep them working that great and not let the

hypothyroidism overwork them.

Jan

LestatL382@... wrote:

>I scored a 7. So not going to take any adrenal meds.

>

>Louise

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I found a multivitamin that has no soy or gluten or animal products

etc. But when I had an iron test my iron (not ferretin) was slightly

elevated so I'm not taking the full dose. My endo agreed to test my

ferritin the next time I go in for a blood test (and tell him that

I'm not going to take meds only 6 days a week contrary to what he

asked me too.)

>

> >I scored a 7. So not going to take any adrenal meds.

> >

> >Louise

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Ok, Pard! I did take 1/4 tab adrenal this morning.......

And the squirrels get everything else!

Feisty

Re: Hi again

.... Not gonna buy that one...

*smile*

Topper ()

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:43:18 -0500 "Feisty\(ThyroFeisty\)" writes:

SSShhhhhhhhhh!

I think the squirrel ate them

[Guest guest]

Take extra C and a B complex then. It is so hard to find a multi without

iron. My ferritin is high-normal too, and I'd rather take one without

but can never find it.

Jan

LestatL382@... wrote:

>I found a multivitamin that has no soy or gluten or animal products

>etc. But when I had an iron test my iron (not ferretin) was slightly

>elevated so I'm not taking the full dose. My endo agreed to test my

>ferritin the next time I go in for a blood test (and tell him that

>I'm not going to take meds only 6 days a week contrary to what he

>asked me too.)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

All I know is I sure feel it.

Toni List Owner of:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GDHWS/This is for guide dog handlers with residual vision.And http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ToniAtGDB/This mailing list is to share my experiences in getting my next dog.

Re: Hi again

I think they'd change the "likely" to "definitely". LOLJanToni wrote:> I just took a test online for adrenal fatigue at > http://www.hotzehealth-wellness.com/8-PointTreatment/Tests/TestLowAdrenal.htm> and scored THIRTY. It says if your score is 12 or above you likely > have it. Hmm, wonder how they would interpret 30?> > Toni> List Owner of:> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GDHWS/> This is for guide dog handlers with residual vision.> And> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ToniAtGDB/> This mailing list is to share my experiences in getting my next dog.

[Guest guest]

,

All he has done that we have the results back from right now is the T4. I don't know the results. Yes, when my levels reach a normal range after being put on meds they take me off. I had the full panel done yesterday. Won't know the results on that for a few days.

Toni List Owner of:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GDHWS/This is for guide dog handlers with residual vision.And http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ToniAtGDB/This mailing list is to share my experiences in getting my next dog.

Re: Hi again

,

I had the antibody testing for hashi 20 years ago, and it was positive. I have been on and off thyroid meds all this time. My thyroid goes from low to normal, to low to normal. I have had Doctor's who don't believe you need the medication if your thyroid is normal, even with hashi. So once again a few years ago they took me off of it. Now they see I need it again, so I have to go back on it. I read an article on about.com about this the other day, and it does say that there are doctor's who hold the belief that if your thyroid is normal you don't need the medication. This has been my experience.

Toni List Owner of:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GDHWS/

[Guest guest]

,

At least I have something to contribute!

Toni List Owner of:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GDHWS/This is for guide dog handlers with residual vision.And http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ToniAtGDB/This mailing list is to share my experiences in getting my next dog.

Re: Hi again

And online text test.. hmmm.. I should take that and see how I'm doing... I've been self treating my adrenals for a little over a year....

hehehehe you just contributed to the group!!!

Topper ()

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:12:28 -0500 "Toni" writes:

I just took a test online for adrenal fatigue at http://www.hotzehealth-wellness.com/8-PointTreatment/Tests/TestLowAdrenal.htm

and scored THIRTY. It says if your score is 12 or above you likely have it. Hmm, wonder how they would interpret 30?

Toni

[Guest guest]

Join the party!!

Re: Hi again

SSShhhhhhhhhh!

I think the squirrel ate them

[Guest guest]

OMG, again I'll say, get rid of this doctor or group of doctors. The levels aren't going to STAY normal without thyroid hormone. They're just going to go right back down. Your life is at risk with these doctors. Do they think that the gland is EVER going to make hormone again normally? No way. It may fluctuate some, but that's on it's own. That has nothing to do with replacing what it ISN'T making ever again. AHHHHHHGGGGGHHH!!!

Re: Hi again

,

All he has done that we have the results back from right now is the T4. I don't know the results. Yes, when my levels reach a normal range after being put on meds they take me off. I had the full panel done yesterday. Won't know the results on that for a few days.

Toni

[Guest guest]

Bwhahahahahahahahahha

we all loony here so what,s normal, or maybe we all normal and everybody is loonytunes

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Re: Hi again

SSShhhhhhhhhh!

I think the squirrel ate them

[Guest guest]

So that is the real proof.

Jan

Toni wrote:

> All I know is I sure feel it.

>

> Toni

> List Owner of:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GDHWS/

> This is for guide dog handlers with residual vision.

> And

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ToniAtGDB/

> This mailing list is to share my experiences in getting my next dog.

[Guest guest]

Your doctors are dangerous - they are not being the usual stupid, they

are violating AEA guidelines, even the info on the Synthroid package.

New doctor, any doctor is better than the ones you've seen so far.

Jan

Toni wrote:

> ,

> All he has done that we have the results back from right now is the

> T4. I don't know the results. Yes, when my levels reach a normal

> range after being put on meds they take me off. I had the full panel

> done yesterday. Won't know the results on that for a few days.

>

> Toni

> List Owner of:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GDHWS/

> This is for guide dog handlers with residual vision.

> And

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ToniAtGDB/

> This mailing list is to share my experiences in getting my next dog.

[Guest guest]

It wasn't this doctor who did that, but several of them have so far. When the level has been normal for awhile they don't think I need the synthroid anymore, hashi's or no.

Toni List Owner of:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GDHWS/This is for guide dog handlers with residual vision.And http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ToniAtGDB/This mailing list is to share my experiences in getting my next dog.

Re: Hi again

Your doctors are dangerous - they are not being the usual stupid, they are violating AEA guidelines, even the info on the Synthroid package.New doctor, any doctor is better than the ones you've seen so far.JanToni wrote:> ,> All he has done that we have the results back from right now is the > T4. I don't know the results. Yes, when my levels reach a normal > range after being put on meds they take me off. I had the full panel > done yesterday. Won't know the results on that for a few days.> > Toni> List Owner of:> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GDHWS/> This is for guide dog handlers with residual vision.> And> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ToniAtGDB/> This mailing list is to share my experiences in getting my next dog.

[Guest guest]

This Dr. doesn't seem to care how I feel. He's just looking at the T4 that we have in so far, which incidently was abnormal.

Toni List Owner of:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GDHWS/This is for guide dog handlers with residual vision.And http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ToniAtGDB/This mailing list is to share my experiences in getting my next dog.

Re: Hi again

So that is the real proof.JanToni wrote:> All I know is I sure feel it.> > Toni> List Owner of:> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GDHWS/> This is for guide dog handlers with residual vision.> And> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ToniAtGDB/> This mailing list is to share my experiences in getting my next dog.

[Guest guest]

,

When it was checked almost two years ago it was normal (so they said). It hasn't been checked since then until now. It was only checked now because I asked them to check it since it hasn't been checked, and since I am again losing my hair. Once I found out it was low again, then all the other stuff made sense, the muscle and joint aches, the stiffness, the fatigue, the weight gain, the hair loss, the depression, the dry skin, the anxiety attacks, the frequent infections that I normally don't get, et cetera.

Toni List Owner of:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GDHWS/This is for guide dog handlers with residual vision.And http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ToniAtGDB/This mailing list is to share my experiences in getting my next dog.

Re: Hi again

,

All he has done that we have the results back from right now is the T4. I don't know the results. Yes, when my levels reach a normal range after being put on meds they take me off. I had the full panel done yesterday. Won't know the results on that for a few days.

Toni

[Guest guest]

do I understand this right? They put you on thyroid meds till they get a

test result they think is ok. BY THE WAY< what number is that? Then they

take you off meds till you get really sick again? I would file a complaint

with the medical review and license board. What state are you in? Why these

Dr's?

>

>Reply-To: The_Thyroid_Support_Group

>To: <The_Thyroid_Support_Group >

>Subject: Re: Hi again

>Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:05:25 -0500

>

>,

>When it was checked almost two years ago it was normal (so they said). It

>hasn't been checked since then until now. It was only checked now because

>I

>asked them to check it since it hasn't been checked, and since I am again

>losing my hair. Once I found out it was low again, then all the other

>stuff

>made sense, the muscle and joint aches, the stiffness, the fatigue, the

>weight gain, the hair loss, the depression, the dry skin, the anxiety

>attacks, the frequent infections that I normally don't get, et cetera.

>

>Toni

>List Owner of:

>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GDHWS/

>This is for guide dog handlers with residual vision.

>And

>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ToniAtGDB/

>This mailing list is to share my experiences in getting my next dog.

> Re: Hi again

>

>

> ,

> All he has done that we have the results back from right now is the T4.

>I

>don't know the results. Yes, when my levels reach a normal range after

>being put on meds they take me off. I had the full panel done yesterday.

>Won't know the results on that for a few days.

>

> Toni

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

They don't do it right away. It might be a year or two, and then they decide that since the levels are what they consider normal they take me back off. I have never believed this was right, but didn't know what to do about it.

Toni List Owner of:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GDHWS/This is for guide dog handlers with residual vision.And http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ToniAtGDB/This mailing list is to share my experiences in getting my next dog.

Re: Hi again>>> ,> All he has done that we have the results back from right now is the T4. >I>don't know the results. Yes, when my levels reach a normal range after>being put on meds they take me off. I had the full panel done yesterday.>Won't know the results on that for a few days.>> Toni>>>

[Guest guest]

They don't do it right away. It might be a year or two, and then they decide that since the levels are what they consider normal they take me back off. I have never believed this was right, but didn't know what to do about it.

Toni List Owner of:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GDHWS/This is for guide dog handlers with residual vision.And http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ToniAtGDB/This mailing list is to share my experiences in getting my next dog.

Re: Hi again>>> ,> All he has done that we have the results back from right now is the T4. >I>don't know the results. Yes, when my levels reach a normal range after>being put on meds they take me off. I had the full panel done yesterday.>Won't know the results on that for a few days.>> Toni>>>

[Guest guest]

request copies of all your lab results. By law they have to provide them.

I'll bet the so called normal is way to high. BDo you not know anything

about your ranges? Why do you see these Dr's? What state are you in?

>

>Reply-To: The_Thyroid_Support_Group

>To: <The_Thyroid_Support_Group >

>Subject: Re: Hi again

>Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:32:26 -0500

>

>They don't do it right away. It might be a year or two, and then they

>decide that since the levels are what they consider normal they take me

>back

>off. I have never believed this was right, but didn't know what to do

>about

>it.

>

>Toni

>List Owner of:

>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GDHWS/

>This is for guide dog handlers with residual vision.

>And

>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ToniAtGDB/

>This mailing list is to share my experiences in getting my next dog.

> Re: Hi again

> >

> >

> > ,

> > All he has done that we have the results back from right now is the

>T4.

> >I

> >don't know the results. Yes, when my levels reach a normal range after

> >being put on meds they take me off. I had the full panel done yesterday.

> >Won't know the results on that for a few days.

> >

> > Toni

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hehe, you're so funny , a lift to my day!

Re: Hi again

SSShhhhhhhhhh!

I think the squirrel ate them

[Guest guest]

Member's Mark, the store brand sold at SAM's club, has a Mature formula

that is iron free. It's supposed to be an equivalent to Centrum Silver,

so I would assume their formula is also iron-free.

Topper ()

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:17:56 -0300 Janaina Viggiano

writes:

> Take extra C and a B complex then. It is so hard to find a multi

> without

> iron. My ferritin is high-normal too, and I'd rather take one

> without but can never find it.

>

>

> Jan

[Guest guest]

Guess what this vitamin company has vitamins with NO IRON!!!!

Their website is www.naturesplus.com

I found them at a vitamin store.

Louise

>

> >I found a multivitamin that has no soy or gluten or animal

products

> >etc. But when I had an iron test my iron (not ferretin) was

slightly

> >elevated so I'm not taking the full dose. My endo agreed to test

my

> >ferritin the next time I go in for a blood test (and tell him that

> >I'm not going to take meds only 6 days a week contrary to what he

> >asked me too.)

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Louise.. that will help out a few folks....

Topper ()

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 02:33:33 -0000 LestatL382@... writes:> Guess what this vitamin company has vitamins with NO IRON!!!!> Their website is www.naturesplus.com> I found them at a vitamin store. > > Louise

[Guest guest]

So the first question you have to ask when you interview a new doctor

(that is right, don't forget they are our employees) is: " Do you believe

thyroid medication is a therapy the patient will have to be on for

life? " If the answer is no, don't bother and get a new one.

Jan

Toni wrote:

> It wasn't this doctor who did that, but several of them have so far.

> When the level has been normal for awhile they don't think I need the

> synthroid anymore, hashi's or no.

>

> Toni

> List Owner of:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GDHWS/

> This is for guide dog handlers with residual vision.

> And

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ToniAtGDB/

> This mailing list is to share my experiences in getting my next dog.

[Guest guest]

So I'd look for another doctor - stick with him now if you need a

prescription, but start looking. The very least a doctor can do is care

how you feel.

Jan

Toni wrote:

> This Dr. doesn't seem to care how I feel. He's just looking at the T4

> that we have in so far, which incidently was abnormal.

>

> Toni

> List Owner of:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GDHWS/

> This is for guide dog handlers with residual vision.

> And

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ToniAtGDB/

> This mailing list is to share my experiences in getting my next dog.