Re: Re: help t3 cytomel tummy ache

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okay, on not everyother. I was just looking for a way to squeeze in a little t3 (life that my brain and nail,hair) need so bad..without adding too much stress on the adrenals. now, I was taking the 5 just once a day, so why would I need the 2.5 2 x a day? I doubt Id be able to sleep if I took it later. Im pretty hyped now, and I took it 5 hrs ago.

Subject: Re: Re: help t3 cytomel tummy acheTo: RT3_T3 Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 5:00 PM

You can go to 2.5mcg but I would take ti twice a day as that is nothign but a teaser to your body and definitlye DO NOT go to eveyr other day dosing. tghsi woudl throw your body into total confusion. T3 is gone mostly in 6-8 hours. Thus twice a day dosing is the preferred method of taking it.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/------------------------------------

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Then it is not T3 you are feelign but adrenal stress. You need HC. I

firmly believe anytone that cannto take T3 later in the day si low in

cortils anyway as it is SO needed at night to trepair the cell damage

done in the previous day. T3 always needs to be taken twice a day.

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leisa you need to increase your isocort.you need to take t3 at least twice a day as val says.if you don't do it that way your hormone levels will flactuate greatly which will bother you. feeling hyper measn you need extra cortsiol. just add half pallet of isocort and see if it helps with hyper feeling.

nil

Re: Re: help t3 cytomel tummy ache

okay, on not everyother. I was just looking for a way to squeeze in a little t3 (life that my brain and nail,hair) need so bad..without adding too much stress on the adrenals. now, I was taking the 5 just once a day, so why would I need the 2.5 2 x a day? I doubt Id be able to sleep if I took it later. Im pretty hyped now, and I took it 5 hrs ago.---

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Leisa

you need to make some trial and error yourself. everyone is different. As i told you at one of my previous posts some needs to go up to 12 pallets of isocort. if you wish to stay on isocort than make all of your trials on isocort. take your t3,watch your body,if you feel hyper increase your isocort.if you still feel hyper increase it more.if you feel okay keep the next days dose of isocort as same.than check again.You can not know what will happen until you try. If that does not work than you can switch to HC. This way you will at least know for sure that isocort did not work for you.

nil

Re: Re: help t3 cytomel tummy acheTo: RT3_T3 Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 5:08 PM

Then it is not T3 you are feelign but adrenal stress. You need HC. I firmly believe anytone that cannto take T3 later in the day si low in cortils anyway as it is SO needed at night to trepair the cell damage done in the previous day. T3 always needs to be taken twice a day.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/------------------------------------

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Waking at night si defini9tely adrenal. You need to get the adrenals

better supported before increasing thyroid wiht either Armoru or T3.

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Fast or slow metbolizer shoudl nto matter. Good T3 levels ayt night

shoild NOT keep you awake. In healthy prople T3 peaks around midnight.

The reason for this si it does cellular repair at night. While you

sleep. There is no physiological reason for t3 to keep you awake at

night, it si not a stimulant. It si a hormone that needs to do it's

worl. I really thing when T3 feels liek a stimulant,. it si LOW cortilos

you are feeling. There is a huge differnce in feeling good healthy

energy and feeling stimulated. I do nto ever feel stimulated ofrm T3. Or

Armoru.

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Okay that made sense...but whats the answer?

I took the 3 isocort with it. I will try splitting the 5mcg today.

Subject: Re: Re: help t3 cytomel tummy acheTo: RT3_T3 Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 2:51 AM

Fast or slow metbolizer shoudl nto matter. Good T3 levels ayt night shoild NOT keep you awake. In healthy prople T3 peaks around midnight. The reason for this si it does cellular repair at night. While you sleep. There is no physiological reason for t3 to keep you awake at night, it si not a stimulant. It si a hormone that needs to do it's worl. I really thing when T3 feels liek a stimulant,. it si LOW cortilos you are feeling. There is a huge differnce in feeling good healthy energy and feeling stimulated. I do nto ever feel stimulated ofrm T3. Or Armoru.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/------------------------------------

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Oh Val. I just ordered titre online...should I try to cancel it?

Subject: Re: Re: help t3 cytomel tummy acheTo: RT3_T3 Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 6:10 PM

Waking at night si defini9tely adrenal. You need to get the adrenals better supported before increasing thyroid wiht either Armoru or T3.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/------------------------------------

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Okay, thank you. Ill try today to take extra isocort..and split it in half. Question....how late is too late to take Isocort? Ive been doing my last dose always before 4 and sometimes 2;30 0r 3. But since waking is an adrenal problem..should I take one later?

Subject: Re: Re: help t3 cytomel tummy acheTo: RT3_T3 Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 5:58 PM

leisa you need to increase your isocort.you need to take t3 at least twice a day as val says.if you don't do it that way your hormone levels will flactuate greatly which will bother you. feeling hyper measn you need extra cortsiol. just add half pallet of isocort and see if it helps with hyper feeling.

nil

Re: Re: help t3 cytomel tummy ache

okay, on not everyother. I was just looking for a way to squeeze in a little t3 (life that my brain and nail,hair) need so bad..without adding too much stress on the adrenals. now, I was taking the 5 just once a day, so why would I need the 2.5 2 x a day? I doubt Id be able to sleep if I took it later. Im pretty hyped now, and I took it 5 hrs ago.---

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You need ot stay oon the same dose of thyroid until your temps are VERY level graphing them three times a day per www.drrind.com

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Hopefully oyu will eb able to take it in under a month'

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Yes you might try some at bedtime.

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i have morning energy(and I drink coffee...I know, but Im addicted to am 2 cups) so Ive been taking 2 at( 9 to 10:30) depending onhow I feel and whats happening..then 3 at (12-1) then 2 or 3 at ( 2;30- 4;00). I dont think I could handle taking 4 doses..is 3 okay?

Subject: Re: Re: help t3 cytomel tummy acheTo: RT3_T3 Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 4:21 PM

I was on HC for about 3.5 years. Yes HC for skin rashes has been used for a LONG time and yes ti can contribute to weakening the adrenals.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/------------------------------------

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no, can I do saliva cortisol...even if im already on isocort or do I need to stop? I dont think I could funtion if I stopped.

If so, which test or lab would I use? my dr uses zrt..but shes 1hr and 1/2 away.

This is confusing because at the time it was happening, I was on 6 isocort a day..now Im on 8 and not having the bruising But keep in mind that it ay have had something to do with the fact that I went from 2 gr armour to 2 1/4 on sept 1st(felt great for 5 0r 6 weeks until bad again) around then had bruising..then I went from 2 1/4 to 2 1/2 grains and felt good then bad again. Better when I upped the isocort to 8, and sorta good with the week of t3 except neck crunching pain and tummy.

Subject: Re: Re: help t3 cytomel tummy acheTo: RT3_T3 Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 6:12 PM

Bruisiong is a symptoms of HIGH cortisl. Have you done recent saliva labs?-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/------------------------------------

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So Ive also ove rthe last yr had lots of stretch marks. If I had or have high cortisol, then why have I been exhausted to the point of fighting too stay awake at work and stand and pain in legs and unable to work and sleeping at 8;30 pm.

I just asked for hc from mu doctor, but maybe shell do a saliva test first. round and round I go.

Subject: Re: Re: help t3 cytomel tummy acheTo: RT3_T3 Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 6:12 PM

Bruisiong is a symptoms of HIGH cortisl. Have you done recent saliva labs?-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/------------------------------------

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leisa

I am sorry. I don't know..I am telling you the optimum way it should be done. But if you prefer to do it your way than you can do it your way.

bw

nil

Re: Re: help t3 cytomel tummy acheTo: RT3_T3 Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 4:21 PM

I was on HC for about 3.5 years. Yes HC for skin rashes has been used for a LONG time and yes ti can contribute to weakening the adrenals.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/------------------------------------

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Thanks Nil,

I understand. Its all soo confusing now Im concerned that I have some symptoms of high cortisol. Hard to belive since Im exhausted.

leisa

Subject: Re: Re: help t3 cytomel tummy acheTo: RT3_T3 Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 4:21 PM

I was on HC for about 3.5 years. Yes HC for skin rashes has been used for a LONG time and yes ti can contribute to weakening the adrenals.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/------------------------------------

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trying to read on line..looks like i cant do cortisol saliva test since i already take isocort

Subject: Re: Re: help t3 cytomel tummy acheTo: RT3_T3 Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 6:12 PM

Bruisiong is a symptoms of HIGH cortisl. Have you done recent saliva labs?-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/------------------------------------

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Leisa with yuor symoptkims I think it is iomportant you wean off the

Isocort for testing. You do NOT want to take HC if you have high cortils

and believe me high cortislol cna cause fatigue too. You really need to

knwo WHAT you are treating before yuo can proceed to treating ti and the

symptioms can be very smilar for high and low cortils but the treatment

is certainly NOT the same.

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leisa

You may wish to contact Dr. neville from clymer healing research.

www.chronicfatigue.org

Ask him if he would be able to interpret saliva test while you are on isocort.

i think they are doing it.

bw

nil

Re: Re: help t3 cytomel tummy acheTo: RT3_T3 Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 6:12 PM

Bruisiong is a symptoms of HIGH cortisl. Have you done recent saliva labs?-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/------------------------------------

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stretch marks are sign of extra high cortsiol. if you had these while on isocort it might mean that isocort was not needed for you and you developed cushingoid symptoms.

nil

Re: Re: help t3 cytomel tummy acheTo: RT3_T3 Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 6:12 PM

Bruisiong is a symptoms of HIGH cortisl. Have you done recent saliva labs?-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/------------------------------------

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im so confused. Actually i developed the strtch marks a yr or 2 ago. so maybe it was high then. But oddly enough I dont ever remember a time when I wasnt so tired I could barely go to work...I mean since Ive been sick, that it. last 5 yrs.

can I do the cortisol saliva test now that im on isocort before going to hc?

Subject: Re: Re: help t3 cytomel tummy acheTo: RT3_T3 Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 6:12 PM

Bruisiong is a symptoms of HIGH cortisl. Have you done recent saliva labs?-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/------------------------------------

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yikes sounds pricy..Ill look at it though. I heard that val did a test thats why I asked

Subject: Re: Re: help t3 cytomel tummy acheTo: RT3_T3 Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 6:12 PM

Bruisiong is a symptoms of HIGH cortisl. Have you done recent saliva labs?-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/------------------------------------

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Isocort contains cortiosl and it owuld skew the test results so

dependingon whne you took or didn;t take Isocort would affct your

results usually too low or too high but never accurate for how your

cortils is NOW. I feel ti si a waste of money totest while on HC. Or

Isocort.

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There is a huge difference between the amounts I used to slather on for

skin reactions, and the 25-30 mg I've been taking for over a year. With

a small stress dose added today I will total 32 mg HC.

This equals about 2/3 of a teaspoon of cream. Total. These are TINY

doses. When I was using it for eczema I'd bet I was using at least 2

whole teaspoons a day. If not more. Huge doses.

sol

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

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