Re: Got another question :)

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In a message dated 03-15-01 5:19:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, CCouttsRMT

writes:

<< Are you an employee at home or in a hospital setting? >>

I am an employee of a service now at home.. Prior to that I was an employee

of a hospital at home until we were outsourced to the service. About 5 years

ago or so I was an inhouse employee of the hospital, and yes it was their job

to provide books, but they didn't do a very good job of it. As I said, their

idea of references were a current PDR (if we were lucky), an old Dorland's,

and that's it.

Jan " Typing is my life "

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In a message dated 03-15-01 5:12:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, cweb@...

writes:

<< But the biggest thing I miss now that I am working

at home, is being able to lean over

to my neighbor and say, " Could you listen to this please? " >>

I miss that too. We've been known to call each other on the phone

Jan " Typing is my life "

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In a message dated 3/15/2001 2:19:28 PM Pacific Standard Time,

CCouttsRMT@... writes:

> " I've done so-and-so but just want to

> make sure this is right. " That is most certainly respected and very

>

Why don't you just presume that posting to the list IS a last resort option

and conclude that the mentors have our respect already and that we ARE

conscientious mature adults trying to learn a profession.

Personally, I don't have time to beg for " your highness " to answer my

questions by starting every sentence with what you believe is correct

sentence structure so I don't wind up offending you in some fashion. I, LIKE

EVERYONE ELSE ON THIS LIST, AM BUSY.

And, with that I bid you all adieu....I have way too much work left to spend

anymore time on this. But, alas, I will be back I'm sure later tonight with

many " basic " questions. . . .

Bev

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In a message dated 03/15/01 5:24:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, cweb@...

writes:

<< You know, you also make a good point that I really hadn't considered

before.

I don't often have a lot of

time to look up answers and mostly reply with those I know readily off the

top of my head but looking

up answers to help someone else is a wonderful way to learn yourself!!

>>

Well thank you for making my point <G> You have to take the time to look up

the answers in order to learn. It takes less time to look up answers rather

than post to group and check back for the answers; and as you stated

yourself, you learn and remember. Being a good MT is taking that time to look

up the answers and when you don't, then yep, that's where the laziness factor

comes in and that doesn't help anybody, the poor unsuspecting patient's note

that you are transcribing, nor yourself.

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In a message dated 3/15/01 5:22:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, CCouttsRMT

writes:

<< Really, Holly? And what was that? There's a huge insecurity issue going on

here. Maybe insecure is not the right word but defensiveness sure is.

>>

Since you won't let this subject die, I guess I'll answer you once again.

Maybe you think I am insecure or others here are insecure, but frankly I

don't give a rat's behind what you think. I was simply sticking up for

myself as well as others on this list. I am not going to be a doormat

" infamous words of a member from another list. " You asked what reference

books I had and I told you. If you do not feel that my list of reference

books is sufficient, I really don't care. I get the job done and the docs I

work for like my work and have never complained. Trisha--sorry it went this

far. I remember what you said before about what this list and what it stands

for. I am simply trying to prove a point.

Holly

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In a message dated 03/15/01 5:28:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, AKIK926 writes:

<< Why don't you just presume that posting to the list IS a last resort

option and conclude that the mentors have our respect already and that we ARE

conscientious mature adults trying to learn a profession.

Why should I ASSume anything with regards to your above comment?

Personally, I don't have time to beg for " your highness " to answer my

questions by starting every sentence with what you believe is correct

sentence structure so I don't wind up offending you in some fashion. I, LIKE

EVERYONE ELSE ON THIS LIST, AM BUSY.

I never said that I was " high " but thanks for the pedestal treatment,

although I'm very undeserving of it.

And, with that I bid you all adieu....I have way too much work left to spend

anymore time on this. But, alas, I will be back I'm sure later tonight with

many " basic " questions. >>

I'm sure that you will be too.

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In a message dated 03/15/01 5:32:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,

dlvernon@... writes:

<< I'd rather save my money for more important

things, such as keeping my kids clothed and fed. Oh wait, I guess those

aren't nearly as much of a priority to some people, silly me.

>>

And this is what I mean by the victim mentality.

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In a message dated 03/15/01 5:33:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, HollyBerry1295

writes:

<< " infamous words of a member from another list. >>

For the record, Diane Heath is a very well know MT who has written numerous

reference books for MT, is an instructor of MT, has been an MT for at least

35 years, and sits with Health Professions Institute. You let it die Holly

and get over it. I just hope that you don't ever transcribe a family member's

note of mine.

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In a message dated 03/15/01 6:46:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, JesusLuvMe

writes:

<< You go, !!!!! I know exactly what you mean. >>

I was starting to wonder where you were <G>

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In a message dated 3/15/01 3:03:21 PM Mountain Standard Time,

CCouttsRMT@... writes:

<< ust for future reference, if somebody opts to purchase the entire

Stedman's

line, the total will come to less than $400. >>

They will also allow you to make payments on it, too.

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, They may have references, but not all of them have them on the computer

where they can do wild card searches. Also, the Drake & Drake does not have a

diagnosis section. I am sure that everyone is working with the best that they

can get at the time, but not all of us have the same references and newbies

sometimes have to pick and choose which references they get and then get more as

they go along. I have been doing transcription for about 15 or more years now

and I now have quite a library of references, but I still don't have any on

CD-ROM, I don't have the QLDB, and I mostly stick with the Drake & Drake. Not

trying to come down on you, but this is a list where we try to be helpful to

each other and don't try to put others down or question their abilities for this

job. Margaret

>>> 03/15/01 04:23PM >>>

In a message dated 03/15/01 4:17:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, HollyBerry1295

writes:

<< Yes, why do you ask? >>

Due to some of the extremely basic questions, such as the colchicine matter.

In the QLDB, the back section has diagnoses with the commonly used drugs

underneath them. Also, a look-up or wild card search of that particular drug

would have been very easy to find.

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You make an excellent point, Margaret. This is my first year

transcribing at home. I spent in excess of $800 on reference

books, software, and equipment. I still do not have all the

books I need!

> , They may have references, but not all of them have them on the

computer where they can do wild card searches.

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, I just went back through my trash to see who it was that sent out the

original message that got this all started in the first place. I have been on

this list long enough that I have gotten to know the people who send out

questions on a regular basis. This question was sent out by one of those people

who does send out questions quite frequently; however, she has always checked

her references and done what she could to find the answer for herself first.

She does not just send a message to the list whenver she has a question, she

tries on her own first. Have you ever had one of those days where you just

needed an extra pair of ears because nothing seemed to be making sense to you.

I have and I have sure been glad when someone was willing to listen and help me

out, not by putting me down and making me feel stupid for asking the question,

but by helping me to learn that when he says what sounds like this, he really

means this. The questions may seem basic to you, but we were all new at one

time and they aren't basic to newbies. I don't know where I would be if my

first mentor had just laughed at me and told me to just go look it up. Now, if

you enjoy flame wars, just go on back to KAMT and enjoy it there. We don't

flame each other here. Margaret

>>> 03/15/01 04:43PM >>>

In a message dated 03/15/01 4:37:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

mgrant@... writes:

<< Not trying to come down on you, but this is a list where we try to be

helpful to each other and don't try to put others down or question their

abilities for this job. Margaret >>

Margaret -I've been an MT for 20 years and some of these questions are flat

out scary and the most basic that any reputable school would teach. It makes

you question the true knowledge of these MTs. If you don't have references

and I don't care how new you are, you shouldn't be transcribing. There's a

big difference between helping compared to what NMTC does, which is give out

answers. True helping is teaching how to be resourceful.

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>>> 03/15/01 04:55PM >>>

" The excuse of no cash doesn't cut it with me "

as it most likely shows that the MT education was also skimped on too thereby

not really preparing the new MTs for this wonderful world of MT. Sometimes it

costs money to make money. If so much time wasn't spent on the boards asking

questions, that would = more $$ in the cash dept.

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, I know when I started out we didn't have to come up with a bunch of money

for reference books, of course back then there weren't many reference books, but

where I started out all of the reference books were supplied. Just think if you

were having to start out now. The computer and software alone is very expensive

and then having to get lots of reference books on top of that means a big cash

outlay just to get started. I sure wouldn't want to have to put out all that

money, but these people do. They are willing to put the money into getting

started, but sometimes fall just a bit short. Besides, all the reference books

in the world don't do a lot of good when you think you are hearing a word that

starts with the wrong letter or just can't seem to figure out which direction to

go to get started. I am very proud to be a part of this list, to help out the

people who are trying to get started in a profession where it sure helps to have

others around but where they are starting out alone, with no one else to

" listen " to what they are hearing. I just can't imagine what some of these

newer people are having to put up with just to get started in a profession

where, according to the ads, " anyone can work at home. " I think we need to have

a " newbie appreciation day " for them to have the courage to take on this job.

My hats off to all of you. Keep up the good work gals. Margaret

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OK, I will act as mediator here. Will you all knock it off already! This

is such a waste of all of our time. Don't stoop to CCoutts' level. jc

Re: Got another question

In a message dated 03-15-01 5:03:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

CCouttsRMT@... writes:

<< Just for future reference, if somebody opts to purchase the entire

Stedman's

line, the total will come to less than $400. You have to really beat up the

customer reps on the 800 line but they will do it for you. Same with the

other MT reference vendors such as QLDB, etc., to get the book and CD. >>

I don't know about anyone else, but I've never had $400 at one time to buy

all the books at once. Monday I ordered $200 worth of books from Stedmans

that were on sale, and that's the most I've spent at one time. Prior to

that

I had ordered about $100 worth and promised myself I wouldn't order more

until those were paid for.. which I did. I've been buying more each payday.

I think I pretty well have all the ones I want. The only exception is since

I've already bought a new drug reference this year (Quick Look Electronic

2001), I'll wait till next year and buy the new Drake and Drake. Oh, and

Vera Pyle, which is on back order right now.

I suppose it might be a little different if one were an IC.. One could

possibly take out a business loan and perhaps buy things all at once, but

I'm

an employee and pretty much always have been, so I've been buying as I go

each payday. That's part of the reason why most of the time when I answer

questions on this list I give my source..That way the other MTs on here get

an idea of what books are good references. Just my 2 cents.

Jan " Typing is my life "

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This is getting so stupid in this group. I received more than 40 e-mails

over the past 30 minutes. Please someone tell me how to get off of this

list. How do I unsubscribe? I didn't join this list to read stuff like this.

Angelika

Re: Got another question

Just for future reference, if somebody opts to purchase the entire Stedman's

line, the total will come to less than $400. You have to really beat up the

customer reps on the 800 line but they will do it for you. Same with the

other MT reference vendors such as QLDB, etc., to get the book and CD.

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> I am still learning mt and I joined the list to learn more. I read the

questions and try to look up the answers. I am learning a lot this way and

I for one am very thankful for this list. I have learned a lot since

joining.

> tj

You know, you also make a good point that I really hadn't considered before.

I don't often have a lot of

time to look up answers and mostly reply with those I know readily off the

top of my head but looking

up answers to help someone else is a wonderful way to learn yourself!!

[Guest guest]

Well said Holly. I have been an MT going on six years and you will never

know everything or have every reference out there. I have quite a

collection of Stedman's word books and it never fails there may be something

that you have that's not in there or you just here it incorrectly. Ask

away!!

Re: Got another question

> I probably shouldn't go here because I'll probably get in trouble, but I

am

> going to anyway. I know of a good MT list you can join. You'll fit in

> really well! If you would like to know e-mail me privately (By the

way

> there are not supposed to be any oldie vs. newbie wars on this list, that

is

> for other lists.)

>

> Holly

>

> In a message dated 3/15/01 4:36:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> CCouttsRMT@... writes:

>

> << I never said I had a problem with it. I asked if anybody had reference

> books.

> Those who are too lazy to look up a word should not be transcribing. I

can

> understand the help factor but not the " no matter what " part of it. How

do

> you expect the newbies to learn if every stump is being handed to them?

They

> can't. Diane Heath quoted " Don't give new MTs the fish, teach them how to

> fish. " >>

>

>

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I remember when I started out on this list (don't remember how long ago). I

was never able to help anyone out because I did not know any of the answers

to the questions everyone was asking. Now, as I have come quite a long way,

THANKS TO THIS GROUP and a little more experience, I am starting to be able

to answer some of them. I feel it is a good test to see how far I have

really come! I just love this group and it has been also a learning

experience into specialties I don't even know. I am thankful for this

group. I don't have to get too stressed out about getting my questions in

to the people I work for before a certain time. Not that all the questions

I have will get answered but it has rarely failed me (I think maybe I can

count a couple where I just had to flag it for accuracy).

Just my two cents....since in the weeee morning hours I would die sometimes

without this group!

LOVE THIS BOARD.

THANKS EVERYONE.....

I just had to say something about this subject going on!

LORI : )

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> This is getting so stupid in this group. I received more than 40 e-mails

> over the past 30 minutes. Please someone tell me how to get off of this

> list. How do I unsubscribe? I didn't join this list to read stuff like

this.

> Angelika

Angelika,

How sad that you have to see any of this. This group NEVER was like this at

all until recently when a certain person started things. Hang in there. It

really is a good group. For those of us who have been here a while, we are

just hoping she will go away, so that things can get back to normal and

anyone can ask any kind of question, dumb or not w/o fear of getting any

kind of flames or any kind of questioning about it.

Val (MT for 7 years and boy let me tell you the DUMB questions I've asked in

my time)

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I joined this list when I was a newbie, still am a newbie compared to a lot

of you out there. What I did when given an answer, your terms, was research

it anyway, so I would know how to find it the next time I would need to do

so. I don't know about the rest of you out there, but it is always a good

idea to verify any spelling regardless of where it comes from. If you don't

like to give answers, give helpful links, or give the term with the book you

found it in so that newbies are made aware of these references available.

Kellie

Re: Got another question

> In a message dated 03/15/01 4:37:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> mgrant@... writes:

>

> << Not trying to come down on you, but this is a list where we try to be

> helpful to each other and don't try to put others down or question their

> abilities for this job. Margaret >>

> Margaret -I've been an MT for 20 years and some of these questions are

flat

> out scary and the most basic that any reputable school would teach. It

makes

> you question the true knowledge of these MTs. If you don't have references

> and I don't care how new you are, you shouldn't be transcribing. There's a

> big difference between helping compared to what NMTC does, which is give

out

> answers. True helping is teaching how to be resourceful.

>

>

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Speaking only for myself, there are days when I just can not find a term,

even though it may be one I have used before due to simple tiredness or

maybe getting a certain spelling stuck in my mind. Sometimes these can be

very basic terms. Kind of like having someone asking your phone number and

you have to think a minute before you can give it to them. A little help

once in awhile never hurts anyone.

Kellie

Re: Got another question

> In a message dated 03-15-01 4:36:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> CCouttsRMT@... writes:

>

> << I never said I had a problem with it. I asked if anybody had reference

> books.

> Those who are too lazy to look up a word should not be transcribing. I

can

> understand the help factor but not the " no matter what " part of it. How

do

> you expect the newbies to learn if every stump is being handed to them?

They

> can't. Diane Heath quoted " Don't give new MTs the fish, teach them how to

> fish. " >>

>

> I don't think it's fair to assume that people who ask questions on here

are

> lazy. In the time I've been on this list, (which isn't very long) I have

yet

> to see someone who I think is not even trying to find an answer. We were

all

> new once. I was mentored and helped along in the beginning, and IMHO if

you

> get an answer from a more experienced MT you tend to never have to ask

that

> same question again. No one comes out of MT school knowing everything...

> heck, even us oldtimers are still learning. I've learned a few things on

> here as well.

>

> Jan " Typing is my life "

>

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[Guest guest]

Please all newbies, ask your questions. By the way can anyone help me spell

s/l *penicilin* I'm pretty sure it's an antibiotic, but I'm just toooooo

lazy to look it up...lol

Val

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, I think Judy and Trisha must be away from the computer for awhile.

Everybody needs a break sometime. Margaret

>>> " tessbear " 03/15/01 05:58PM >>>

This is getting to be ridiculous. Where's Judy when we need her?

Re: Got another question

In a message dated 03/15/01 5:28:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, AKIK926

writes:

<< Why don't you just presume that posting to the list IS a last resort

option and conclude that the mentors have our respect already and that we

ARE

conscientious mature adults trying to learn a profession.

Why should I ASSume anything with regards to your above comment?

Personally, I don't have time to beg for " your highness " to answer my

questions by starting every sentence with what you believe is correct

sentence structure so I don't wind up offending you in some fashion. I,

LIKE

EVERYONE ELSE ON THIS LIST, AM BUSY.

I never said that I was " high " but thanks for the pedestal treatment,

although I'm very undeserving of it.

And, with that I bid you all adieu....I have way too much work left to

spend

anymore time on this. But, alas, I will be back I'm sure later tonight with

many " basic " questions. >>

I'm sure that you will be too.

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This is getting to be ridiculous. Where's Judy when we need her?

Re: Got another question

In a message dated 03/15/01 5:28:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, AKIK926

writes:

<< Why don't you just presume that posting to the list IS a last resort

option and conclude that the mentors have our respect already and that we

ARE

conscientious mature adults trying to learn a profession.

Why should I ASSume anything with regards to your above comment?

Personally, I don't have time to beg for " your highness " to answer my

questions by starting every sentence with what you believe is correct

sentence structure so I don't wind up offending you in some fashion. I,

LIKE

EVERYONE ELSE ON THIS LIST, AM BUSY.

I never said that I was " high " but thanks for the pedestal treatment,

although I'm very undeserving of it.

And, with that I bid you all adieu....I have way too much work left to

spend

anymore time on this. But, alas, I will be back I'm sure later tonight with

many " basic " questions. >>

I'm sure that you will be too.

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