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HUMOR CHALLENGE

Here is the challenge: Post some good Spectrum humor! I know

plenty

of blonde jokes, and crazy person jokes, and even faceblind jokes!

Hay, we are allowed to tell them on ourselves, too!

I will start, with one I can tell:

An ASpie was standing on a river bank, and an NT was on the opposite

bank. The NT hollared, " Can you tell me how to get to the other side? "

The ASpie started laughing! The NT asked what was so funny. The

reply? " You ARE on the other side! "

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My son made one up last week:

How many Aspies does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

One. But a committee is needed to stand underneath and remind him that

when he stretches up, his pants are falling down.

That one kept us giggling for a while. Hope it does it for you to!

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Is that why my pants are always falling down? Hmm.. I thought that was a male

thing? :)

jo

Re: HUMOR CHALLENGE

My son made one up last week:

How many Aspies does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

One. But a committee is needed to stand underneath and remind him that

when he stretches up, his pants are falling down.

That one kept us giggling for a while. Hope it does it for you to!

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Here's one my Dad thought up.

Q: What does an autistic eat for lunch?

A: What do you mean - is it lunchtime already?

At first I thought you were referring to humor created by & for

autistics - my father and I, both on the spectrum, will often joke with

each other and my mother doesn't get the joke at all.

Once, I was reading a psychology textbook (obsessive interest) and

exclaimed: " Dad, do you know which is the poorest understood sense? "

(smell)

He replied: " ESP. "

" Dad, ESP doesn't exist! "

" That's what they all say. But someday, I'll show them all. Then they

won't call me a crazy aardvark any more. "

Without really thinking, I replied: " Well, if you wouldn't eat ants... "

He burst out laughing.

Ettina

>

> Here is the challenge: Post some good Spectrum humor! I know plenty

> of blonde jokes, and crazy person jokes, and even faceblind jokes!

> Hay, we are allowed to tell them on ourselves, too!

>

> I will start, with one I can tell:

>

> An ASpie was standing on a river bank, and an NT was on the opposite

> bank. The NT hollared, " Can you tell me how to get to the other

side? "

> The ASpie started laughing! The NT asked what was so funny. The

> reply? " You ARE on the other side! "

>

>

>

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Ettina,

These are funny! FOMCLOL

(Falling off my chair, LOL)

abnormaldiversity wrote:

Here's one my Dad thought up.

Q: What does an autistic eat for lunch?

A: What do you mean - is it lunchtime already?

At first I thought you were referring to humor created by & for

autistics - my father and I, both on the spectrum, will often joke with

each other and my mother doesn't get the joke at all.

Once, I was reading a psychology textbook (obsessive interest) and

exclaimed: " Dad, do you know which is the poorest understood sense? "

(smell)

He replied: " ESP. "

" Dad, ESP doesn't exist! "

" That's what they all say. But someday, I'll show them all. Then they

won't call me a crazy aardvark any more. "

Without really thinking, I replied: " Well, if you wouldn't eat ants... "

He burst out laughing.

Ettina

>

> Here is the challenge: Post some good Spectrum humor! I know plenty

> of blonde jokes, and crazy person jokes, and even faceblind jokes!

> Hay, we are allowed to tell them on ourselves, too!

>

> I will start, with one I can tell:

>

> An ASpie was standing on a river bank, and an NT was on the opposite

> bank. The NT hollared, " Can you tell me how to get to the other

side? "

> The ASpie started laughing! The NT asked what was so funny. The

> reply? " You ARE on the other side! "

>

>

>

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Jane,

I like that firm! At least they are straight up! Another is the firm of

Dewwey, Cheetham, and Howe....

Jane Meyerding wrote:

wrote:

>When we were children, my little bother, also named , wrote

>the first three questions of an " IQ " test (his answers are in

>parentheses):

>

>(1) What do you do with your eyes? (Blink)

>

>(2) What do you do with your ears? (Plug 'm)

>

>(3) What do you do with your nose? (Pick it)

Sounds like a legal firm: Blink, Plugum, and Pickit. :-)

Jane

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Jane,

What is your little brother doing now? I'm intensely curious.

jo

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wrote:

>When we were children, my little bother, also named , wrote

>the first three questions of an " IQ " test (his answers are in

>parentheses) :

>

>(1) What do you do with your eyes? (Blink)

>

>(2) What do you do with your ears? (Plug 'm)

>

>(3) What do you do with your nose? (Pick it)

Sounds like a legal firm: Blink, Plugum, and Pickit. :-)

Jane

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Or was it your little brother, Princess?

Jo

Re: Re: HUMOR CHALLENGE

How many Aspies does it take to change a lightbulb?

>> *An electric current passes through a thin tungsten filament, heating the

filament to 2000-3300K, and causing the release of thermally-equilibra ted

photons. The filament is preserved in a glass bulb filled with low-pressure

inert gas, which keeps the filament from being destroyed by oxidation.

Edison, in his October 14, 1878 patent, " Improvement in Electric

Lights " ... sorry, what was the question again?*

>

> My son made one up last week:

>

> How many Aspies does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

>

> One. But a committee is needed to stand underneath and remind him that

> when he stretches up, his pants are falling down.

>

> That one kept us giggling for a while. Hope it does it for you to!

>

>

>

>

>

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Joanne,

This is my little brother! He is now six feet tall, and I am only five foot

three! He lives in a group home, tests out as mentally retarded- but graduated

high school with a regular diploma, I think. I have taught him plenty of cool

things over the years, and have never believed that he is retarded at all! I

think he is really one of us!

joanne ford wrote:

Jane,

What is your little brother doing now? I'm intensely curious.

jo

Re: Re: HUMOR CHALLENGE

wrote:

>When we were children, my little bother, also named , wrote

>the first three questions of an " IQ " test (his answers are in

>parentheses) :

>

>(1) What do you do with your eyes? (Blink)

>

>(2) What do you do with your ears? (Plug 'm)

>

>(3) What do you do with your nose? (Pick it)

Sounds like a legal firm: Blink, Plugum, and Pickit. :-)

Jane

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Yes, Joanne- he is mine! I am praying for the opportunity to share with my

family about being AS, and seeing if he can get a new DX. I have not told any

of them yet- I am breaking it too them gently (if there is any way to do that!).

But then, it is not as if they don't know me!

Princess

joanne ford wrote:

Or was it your little brother, Princess?

Jo

Re: Re: HUMOR CHALLENGE

How many Aspies does it take to change a lightbulb?

>> *An electric current passes through a thin tungsten filament, heating the

filament to 2000-3300K, and causing the release of thermally-equilibra ted

photons. The filament is preserved in a glass bulb filled with low-pressure

inert gas, which keeps the filament from being destroyed by oxidation.

Edison, in his October 14, 1878 patent, " Improvement in Electric

Lights " ... sorry, what was the question again?*

>

> My son made one up last week:

>

> How many Aspies does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

>

> One. But a committee is needed to stand underneath and remind him that

> when he stretches up, his pants are falling down.

>

> That one kept us giggling for a while. Hope it does it for you to!

>

>

>

>

>

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They thought my brother was retarded too. My dad almost put him away, but my

mother refused to sign. Instead he went for short times to institutions. The

first time, they said it was to teach him not to be a perfectionist.

my mom denies to this day that he isn't autistic. he needed speech therapy when

he was seven. he walked at three and talked even later. he threw temper

tantrums when he wasnt understood. he first walked on his tiptoes..hmm what

does that sound like?

now, he has opened and put one company on the stock market. now it's franchises,

so he left. he's ready to 'go public' with his next company - its up to ten

million in sales now.

and? he's six foot 4 and i'm five foot 2 :)

jo

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wrote:

>When we were children, my little bother, also named , wrote

>the first three questions of an " IQ " test (his answers are in

>parentheses) :

>

>(1) What do you do with your eyes? (Blink)

>

>(2) What do you do with your ears? (Plug 'm)

>

>(3) What do you do with your nose? (Pick it)

Sounds like a legal firm: Blink, Plugum, and Pickit. :-)

Jane

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>They thought my brother was retarded too.

My best RL friend was considered retarded when she was young. She

turned out to be the first one in her family to graduate from college.

Jane

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Nice...

>

> Here's one about echolalia:

> literal person: What's your name?

> echolalic person: What's your name?

> literal person: That's a strange name. Oh well, pleased to meet you,

> what's-your-name.

> Ettina

>

> >

> > Here is the challenge: Post some good Spectrum humor! I know plenty

> > of blonde jokes, and crazy person jokes, and even faceblind jokes!

> > Hay, we are allowed to tell them on ourselves, too!

> >

> > I will start, with one I can tell:

> >

> > An ASpie was standing on a river bank, and an NT was on the opposite

> > bank. The NT hollared, " Can you tell me how to get to the other

> side? "

> > The ASpie started laughing! The NT asked what was so funny. The

> > reply? " You ARE on the other side! "

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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I've told a few people the joke about the river bank. I am crap at telling

jokes, but this one seems to be working. The AS bloke I told it to was well

impressed and asked if you have any more - me too?

De Carlo wrote: Nice...

>

> Here's one about echolalia:

> literal person: What's your name?

> echolalic person: What's your name?

> literal person: That's a strange name. Oh well, pleased to meet you,

> what's-your-name.

> Ettina

>

> >

> > Here is the challenge: Post some good Spectrum humor! I know plenty

> > of blonde jokes, and crazy person jokes, and even faceblind jokes!

> > Hay, we are allowed to tell them on ourselves, too!

> >

> > I will start, with one I can tell:

> >

> > An ASpie was standing on a river bank, and an NT was on the opposite

> > bank. The NT hollared, " Can you tell me how to get to the other

> side? "

> > The ASpie started laughing! The NT asked what was so funny. The

> > reply? " You ARE on the other side! "

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Here are a few more:

Q. Why do women rock so much when they are in their last month of pregnancy?

A. Because you never know if your baby is on the Spectrum!

Q. What's an autistic person's favorite drink?

A. Harvey Wall-Banger ( and knock-offs, too!)

Q. How can you convince an ASpie to change a lightbulb?

A. You can't. When it's lit, it will not make sense to replace it. Replace

a darkbulb!

Q. How does an autistic savant take a head head count?

A. Count legs, and divide by 2!

Q. How does an autistic person rearrange the furniture?

A. Very carefully!

, who resembles these remarks.

frank oldroyd wrote:

I've told a few people the joke about the river bank. I am crap at

telling jokes, but this one seems to be working. The AS bloke I told it to was

well impressed and asked if you have any more - me too?

De Carlo wrote: Nice...

>

> Here's one about echolalia:

> literal person: What's your name?

> echolalic person: What's your name?

> literal person: That's a strange name. Oh well, pleased to meet you,

> what's-your-name.

> Ettina

>

> >

> > Here is the challenge: Post some good Spectrum humor! I know plenty

> > of blonde jokes, and crazy person jokes, and even faceblind jokes!

> > Hay, we are allowed to tell them on ourselves, too!

> >

> > I will start, with one I can tell:

> >

> > An ASpie was standing on a river bank, and an NT was on the opposite

> > bank. The NT hollared, " Can you tell me how to get to the other

> side? "

> > The ASpie started laughing! The NT asked what was so funny. The

> > reply? " You ARE on the other side! "

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Ettina,

This is good. I lke it!

Princess wrote:

>

> Here's one about echolalia:

> literal person: What's your name?

> echolalic person: What's your name?

> literal person: That's a strange name. Oh well, pleased to meet you,

> what's-your-name.

> Ettina

>

> >

> > Here is the challenge: Post some good Spectrum humor! I know plenty

> > of blonde jokes, and crazy person jokes, and even faceblind jokes!

> > Hay, we are allowed to tell them on ourselves, too!

> >

> > I will start, with one I can tell:

> >

> > An ASpie was standing on a river bank, and an NT was on the opposite

> > bank. The NT hollared, " Can you tell me how to get to the other

> side? "

> > The ASpie started laughing! The NT asked what was so funny. The

> > reply? " You ARE on the other side! "

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Brava, !

> > >

> > > Here is the challenge: Post some good Spectrum humor! I know

plenty

> > > of blonde jokes, and crazy person jokes, and even faceblind

jokes!

> > > Hay, we are allowed to tell them on ourselves, too!

> > >

> > > I will start, with one I can tell:

> > >

> > > An ASpie was standing on a river bank, and an NT was on the

opposite

> > > bank. The NT hollared, " Can you tell me how to get to the other

> > side? "

> > > The ASpie started laughing! The NT asked what was so funny. The

> > > reply? " You ARE on the other side! "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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I got told off for telling these jokes at work, even after I clearley stated you

have ASD / AS. Well I'm not going to stop but just be more selective to whom I

tell. I have found that I have to explain the term Aspie and NT, but no worries.

Just wondering is Aspie a common term. I tend not to use it myself as I dont

like saying shortened words which end in 'e'. Bazzare, but everybody at work and

home seem to tolerate it.

Princess wrote:

,

Here are a few more:

Q. Why do women rock so much when they are in their last month of pregnancy?

A. Because you never know if your baby is on the Spectrum!

Q. What's an autistic person's favorite drink?

A. Harvey Wall-Banger ( and knock-offs, too!)

Q. How can you convince an ASpie to change a lightbulb?

A. You can't. When it's lit, it will not make sense to replace it. Replace a

darkbulb!

Q. How does an autistic savant take a head head count?

A. Count legs, and divide by 2!

Q. How does an autistic person rearrange the furniture?

A. Very carefully!

, who resembles these remarks.

frank oldroyd wrote:

I've told a few people the joke about the river bank. I am crap at telling

jokes, but this one seems to be working. The AS bloke I told it to was well

impressed and asked if you have any more - me too?

De Carlo wrote: Nice...

>

> Here's one about echolalia:

> literal person: What's your name?

> echolalic person: What's your name?

> literal person: That's a strange name. Oh well, pleased to meet you,

> what's-your-name.

> Ettina

>

> >

> > Here is the challenge: Post some good Spectrum humor! I know plenty

> > of blonde jokes, and crazy person jokes, and even faceblind jokes!

> > Hay, we are allowed to tell them on ourselves, too!

> >

> > I will start, with one I can tell:

> >

> > An ASpie was standing on a river bank, and an NT was on the opposite

> > bank. The NT hollared, " Can you tell me how to get to the other

> side? "

> > The ASpie started laughing! The NT asked what was so funny. The

> > reply? " You ARE on the other side! "

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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I believe " ASpie " is what we call ourselves- I have no idea if I would feel

comfortable in using that term around an NT- I might not. I guess, you could

just say, " AS " .

You will definitely have to explain the term NT- few people seem to have any

idea what it means- will we get in trouble for being politically incorrect,

somehow? LOL My pastor thought it was New Testament, and my mathematical

friends take it for Number Thoery.

On the other hand, where you work, nobody should be offended- unless there are

a few people who do not have enough theory of mind to laugh about these things

yet- my mother first observed my laughing at myself at the age of 13, so I guess

there may be someone where you work who cannot do it yet.

AS, & trying to learn NTSL (Neurotypical-ese as a second language)

frank oldroyd wrote:

I got told off for telling these jokes at work, even after I clearley

stated you have ASD / AS. Well I'm not going to stop but just be more selective

to whom I tell. I have found that I have to explain the term Aspie and NT, but

no worries. Just wondering is Aspie a common term. I tend not to use it myself

as I dont like saying shortened words which end in 'e'. Bazzare, but everybody

at work and home seem to tolerate it.

Princess wrote:

,

Here are a few more:

Q. Why do women rock so much when they are in their last month of pregnancy?

A. Because you never know if your baby is on the Spectrum!

Q. What's an autistic person's favorite drink?

A. Harvey Wall-Banger ( and knock-offs, too!)

Q. How can you convince an ASpie to change a lightbulb?

A. You can't. When it's lit, it will not make sense to replace it. Replace a

darkbulb!

Q. How does an autistic savant take a head head count?

A. Count legs, and divide by 2!

Q. How does an autistic person rearrange the furniture?

A. Very carefully!

, who resembles these remarks.

frank oldroyd wrote:

I've told a few people the joke about the river bank. I am crap at telling

jokes, but this one seems to be working. The AS bloke I told it to was well

impressed and asked if you have any more - me too?

De Carlo wrote: Nice...

>

> Here's one about echolalia:

> literal person: What's your name?

> echolalic person: What's your name?

> literal person: That's a strange name. Oh well, pleased to meet you,

> what's-your-name.

> Ettina

>

> >

> > Here is the challenge: Post some good Spectrum humor! I know plenty

> > of blonde jokes, and crazy person jokes, and even faceblind jokes!

> > Hay, we are allowed to tell them on ourselves, too!

> >

> > I will start, with one I can tell:

> >

> > An ASpie was standing on a river bank, and an NT was on the opposite

> > bank. The NT hollared, " Can you tell me how to get to the other

> side? "

> > The ASpie started laughing! The NT asked what was so funny. The

> > reply? " You ARE on the other side! "

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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>

> I believe " ASpie " is what we call ourselves- I have no idea if I would

> feel comfortable in using that term around an NT- I might not. I guess,

> you could just say, " AS " .

In my experience, the vast majority of people don't know what Asperger's is.

>

> You will definitely have to explain the term NT- few people seem to have

> any idea what it means- will we get in trouble for being politically

> incorrect, somehow?

Get in trouble for being unPC? So? I'm getting more and more tired of PCness

myself.

D.

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Calling ourselves " Aspie " is a personal choice, and is no big deal if

you prefer using another term. It is an emerging label that many of

us use for ourselves, that taps into NT use of the -ie ending in

English to show dominant affection. It is less threatening and is

casual, and by calling ourselves that implies we accept and have

humor about ourselves, as well as taking the dominant position in

defining our differences with others... we are dominant affectionate

to ourselves by using it.

NT ways are often mysterious and illogical, but I think I may know

why your colleagues at work don't appreciate the humor. It is most

likely not the content of the words.

You may be perceived as choosing inappropriate times for humor in the

NT culture, repeating or reciting " too many " at once, not using

the " appropriate " voice and body language while sharing the joke

content, etc.

If you want to share jokes at work, study movies and NT people around

you, and watch people who are " ethnic " (minority race/religion

cultures) for if, how, and when they tell a *single* joke about

themselves, in what place, and what other people are doing at the

time. This takes time.

After two years of observing, trying to be careful, and frequently

failing, I have learned at my work that a single joke (rarely, two),

told every couple of months, in passing in the hallways or while

relaxing before a meeting (not during or after), is something that is

welcome. A single email every few days to couple of weeks, with one

or two jokes, is also welcome. Sometimes I still slip up and do it

wrong, and people act irritated.

This also goes for regular conversation without jokes. I have learned

that when I do catch (and I know I don't always catch this when

I'm " relaxed " and thinking things are going smoothly) a visible wince

around the eyes, a small sway or step back, and eyes looking away, or

glancing to others with a small flash of teeth, or a look at me with

a breath-snort and that flash of teeth (may be called a " smile; " it

really is a snarl response but with a small hint of " putting up with

it " and continued for-the-moment acceptance of the other people in

the area), means " oops " for me.

Actually, at this point, other words are implied, but they cannot be

repeated in polite company. When I see those " tells " I fall into a

panic ... with all those words running in my head. I have to hold the

fear tears at bay, although I can't control the physical trembling,

and focus on staying as still as possible, or if possible, physically

retreat to reduce the NTs' stress. The hardest thing when I'm in a

panic is not to talk... my natural instinct is to try to use my

highest strength - structured non-social vocabulary - to seek to

repair damage. This is viewed as " babbling " by NTs. I have to keep

the image in my mind that " babble " is like picking at a wound and not

letting it scab over. This is a newer perception and awareness for

me, and it is hard to implement.

The panic is: making colleagues irritated = less cooperation in work

tasks later = deterioration of existing environmental structure =

failure of supports for students which is why I'm there in the first

place = I've hurt my students

However, a " silver lining " is that it generally reveals who my true

friends are ... the ones who later on are perfectly relaxed and

conversational about non-work stuff with me. However, that test is

about 20% inaccurate for me ... some who show this relaxation and

conversation with me are ones who enjoy acting friendly to someone's

face and then take comments to others, out of context and with

exaggeration of especially social meaning, to undermine. I was

recently told I might face a lawsuit because I " vented " to some

people I thought were friends, who have " vented " similarly with me

about others, and for whom I then respected their privacy and need to

reduce stress ... I've already identified one that is probably

a " tattler " (see next paragraph). Since people like us miss cuing

that warns others, the partial-awareness of some cues can be

extremely harmful. Also, because repair of such damage in NT society

involves very complicated cuing behaviors, we only dig ourselves in

deeper when trying to " fix " the damage.

On the other hand, when someone falls in that 20%, after I've

discovered it the hard way, I've developed certain phrase patterns

(grammar and tone) that NTs can't mask their responses for, to

determine who's the one I have to watch for. When I say those phrases

(situationally derived), eye pupils expand and face expression

changes slightly ... the same " lie detector " police use, and good

poker players observe for. I can't share the phrases here, because it

is situational, and based on my own physical presentation and

voice/body control, as well as what I know about the other person

already. Words won't teach it. Nor can I " invent " it hypothetically

to make a " demonstration. " I need all the components to derive it,

including the situation being real. I don't want such negative

situations to be created, so I can't really explain it beyond this.

It is a hard choice; risk and do maintain the 80% of those contacts

that do, in the long run, turn out to be good friends, sharing both

happy moments and difficult ones, or be completely isolated and

lonely. In the end, I irritate the NT friends I have, usually after a

couple of years they can't deal with those moments of irritation any

more and avoid me, but I now do have a few people who have stayed my

friends for longer than that, and are very positive with me. Of

course, it's taken me until my mid to late 30's to be able to have

long-term best friends like that...

Getting back to humor, since I like jokes that play on words or

environmental experience, and have responsive word play running in my

head for almost every positive conversation I'm in, and could go on

all day with them, I have to constantly mask and guard against saying

silly stuff at the wrong time, in the wrong place, to the wrong

people, in the wrong way, just like trying to deal with the negatives

like the one example I gave above.

That is in my work environment. Make a study of yours. Save the jokes

you'd like to share, and when you feel like testing an hypothesis

about when a joke is appropriate, chose a single joke, do NOT rush,

count your timing carefully, and wait for a pause in others around

you at the right time. If you miss your slot, wait until the same

situation occurs again. Not doing it is better than doing it wrong.

--- wrote:

>

> I got told off for telling these jokes at work, even after I

clearley stated you have ASD / AS. Well I'm not going to stop but

just be more selective to whom I tell. I have found that I have to

explain the term Aspie and NT, but no worries. Just wondering is

Aspie a common term. I tend not to use it myself as I dont like

saying shortened words which end in 'e'. Bazzare, but everybody at

work and home seem to tolerate it.

>

>

> Princess wrote:

> ,

>

> Here are a few more:

>

>

> Q. Why do women rock so much when they are in their last month of

pregnancy?

>

> A. Because you never know if your baby is on the Spectrum!

>

>

> Q. What's an autistic person's favorite drink?

>

> A. Harvey Wall-Banger ( and knock-offs, too!)

>

>

> Q. How can you convince an ASpie to change a lightbulb?

>

> A. You can't. When it's lit, it will not make sense to replace it.

Replace a darkbulb!

>

>

> Q. How does an autistic savant take a head head count?

>

> A. Count legs, and divide by 2!

>

>

> Q. How does an autistic person rearrange the furniture?

>

> A. Very carefully!

>

>

> , who resembles these remarks.

>

>

>

>

>

wrote:

> I've told a few people the joke about the river bank. I am crap at

telling jokes, but this one seems to be working. The AS bloke I told

it to was well impressed and asked if you have any more - me too?

>

> De Carlo wrote: Nice...

>

>

> >

> > Here's one about echolalia:

> > literal person: What's your name?

> > echolalic person: What's your name?

> > literal person: That's a strange name. Oh well, pleased to meet

you,

> > what's-your-name.

> > Ettina

> >

> > >

> > > Here is the challenge: Post some good Spectrum humor! I know

plenty

> > > of blonde jokes, and crazy person jokes, and even faceblind

jokes!

> > > Hay, we are allowed to tell them on ourselves, too!

> > >

> > > I will start, with one I can tell:

> > >

> > > An ASpie was standing on a river bank, and an NT was on the

opposite

> > > bank. The NT hollared, " Can you tell me how to get to the other

> > side? "

> > > The ASpie started laughing! The NT asked what was so funny. The

> > > reply? " You ARE on the other side! "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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, you have such a great way with words. You express what I go

through every day at work in retail. I just more or less wing it; some days

I seem to de better, some days worse.

D.

Re: HUMOR CHALLENGE

> --

>

> Calling ourselves " Aspie " is a personal choice, and is no big deal if

> you prefer using another term. It is an emerging label that many of

> us use for ourselves, that taps into NT use of the -ie ending in

> English to show dominant affection. It is less threatening and is

> casual, and by calling ourselves that implies we accept and have

> humor about ourselves, as well as taking the dominant position in

> defining our differences with others... we are dominant affectionate

> to ourselves by using it.

>

> NT ways are often mysterious and illogical, but I think I may know

> why your colleagues at work don't appreciate the humor. It is most

> likely not the content of the words.

>

> You may be perceived as choosing inappropriate times for humor in the

> NT culture, repeating or reciting " too many " at once, not using

> the " appropriate " voice and body language while sharing the joke

> content, etc.

>

> If you want to share jokes at work, study movies and NT people around

> you, and watch people who are " ethnic " (minority race/religion

> cultures) for if, how, and when they tell a *single* joke about

> themselves, in what place, and what other people are doing at the

> time. This takes time.

>

> After two years of observing, trying to be careful, and frequently

> failing, I have learned at my work that a single joke (rarely, two),

> told every couple of months, in passing in the hallways or while

> relaxing before a meeting (not during or after), is something that is

> welcome. A single email every few days to couple of weeks, with one

> or two jokes, is also welcome. Sometimes I still slip up and do it

> wrong, and people act irritated.

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I speculated that me admitting to saying " I have _____ " rather than " I am _____ "

would cause a difference of opinion. AS is a big part of my identity, but so is

epelepsy and dyslexia. I accept and embrace I am all three, but it is not my

whole. Now, as much as you may know this, I have found NTs base their judgements

of me on my AS and/or epelespy, this has caused no end of problems. Also I have

found my staff team (I work in a college for AS and ASD people) not looking

beyond the AS or ASD. They feel sorry for us!!!! WE DONT NEED PEOPLE FEELING

SORRY FOR US! By using " have " rather than " am " allows them to get over their

prejudices. It works the other way - some AS/ASD students I know use it as an

excuse: " I'm Autistic - I cant do that " to get staff to do things for them which

they can easily do for themselves. I try to get across that AS/ASD brings gifts

with it and its really not as bad as the majority of NTs make it out. So far it

is working well.

I have also told people, that I know a bunch AS folk (including myself) who are

proud/thankful of being AS. From this you may gather, I would like to say 'I

am', but I am at this stage unwilling to be a martor for the cause. Am I being

selfish?

No, I dont want a cure for my AS. But do I want a cure for my epelepsy? Well I'm

still undecided on that. Upto a year ago, I would unaquivically have said yes.

But then I experienced a few weeks without it (I have absence seizures every day

- and have had several whilst writting this e-mail), it was VERY disturbing. It

felt I was in someone eles body, all the procausions I take to keep myself safe

went out of the window. All the routeens were no longer necessary. I knew I

should be happy but I was not. Everyone eles was pleased for me. The seizures

came back and I slipped back into my normal life. I think the difficulty came

from the amount of change I was experiencing.

As for the dyslexia, that many people have it, it is verging on typical. And as

I had a specilised teaching as a child, I dont think it impacts greatly.

The other day my husband called my AS - 'your condition - thats why you did it'.

We were having an argument and he was compleatly in the right, all the same, I

told him to 'fuck-off'!! He knows that AS is who I am and that refureing to it

as a 'condition' would be hurtful - which was his aim - one point to him! Also,

I had just called him a c***, quite unnesserally. He also supports people with

AS/ASD/EBD (emotional behavioral disorder) and knows it is an offensive term

which most NTs use without relising.

I should really say 'I am AS' within this group but at the moment I hold fast to

saying 'I have AS' to most people. Am I one of the people who make it more

difficult for us or am I just a going a different way around trying to make us

accepted?

This e-mail does relay on some of my assumptions about this group i.e. being

proud/thankful of being AS, so it is possible I've got it wrong. Also, this

message is IMHO.

Franque

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I know I said I would put your advice into action - how and when to tell jokes.

Well it has not happened yet. I thought I could completley do it. No such luck!!

Will keep trying though.

Got to go, my husband has come in and told me to get off-line, as I am having

lots of seizures,

Bye,

Franque

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