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> Hi Bee,

> I wanted to thank you for the past two answers you sent me. When I read

that you answer 700 a day or maybe that was a week, I was very impressed and

touched by your dedication to help us. I started your diet May 27th and have

cheated as time goes on with fried food and red wine with no sulfites and some

fruit, and have really been ok, but I have been steadfast on no sweets or

soda's. I am really quite tired of water, but I play a lot of tennis and your

natural electrolyte drink is the bomb!!!!

+++Hi . That's good you are getting started on my program, and that you

really like the electrolyte drink!

>

> If it's not too much trouble I wanted to tell you what vitamins I am

taking and how much, my doctor said too much can be dangerous and I had a nasty

outbreak on my shoulder and didn't know if this was related, the horrible dry,

itching skin is what drove me to this diet, it's been chronic for over 10 years

and nothing has helped, I am starting to see a little relief but feel like it

will be such a slow process---ok here is what I take daily since March:

+++I wouldn't need to review your list of supplements since the only ones you

should be taking are on these lists, and the reasons for not taking others is

also explained:

Candida Supplements Description & Doses:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/supp1.php

Candida Supplements Chart:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/supp7.php

Also, I do not recommend taking any kind of probiotics, like acidophilus, nor

any kind of antifungals, which is explained at the beginning of How to

Successfully Overcome Candida, that is important for you to read:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

> Thanks so much Bee for any input, I realized after typing this out, I may

have too much of the B's (no pun intended)!

+++That's funnee! Also ensure you read Curing Candida, How to Get Started:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

For encouragement and inspiration see these wonderful Success Stories by members

of this group: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php

The best in health, Bee

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> Thanks so much.  Is there a certain way I should stop taking the vitamins I am

currently taking?  Is it harmful to just stop?

+++Hi ,

It is not harmful to suddenly stop taking supplements.

Bee

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> Hi Bee,

>

> It was delightful talking with you this morning. I appreciate your wealth of

knowledge. I'm so looking forward to the benefits of this program. What you

say makes sense to me. I already have a question though. I've been looking at

Iherb and different viatmins on the Net. Because my digestion is so bad, I

would like to take all liquid vitamins. I notice that there are organic liquid

B vitamins that have the required dosages but they are made from raisin

concentrate with no added sweetners. The raisin base contributes 3g of sugar to

each serving. Is this amount of natural sugar on a daily basis acceptable? Or

must we be 100% sugar free.....Thanks again for all you do....

+++Hi Gail,

I enjoyed talking with you too. It was noticeable that you did your homework in

spite of having brain fog and poor concentration.

My digestion was my worst candida symptom, however I was fine taking supplement

in tablet and/or capsule form, so don't be concerned. At one point in time when

I could only eat 9 foods, since everything else came back up, my supplements

stayed down. : )

However, instead of taking Vitamin B Complex & Niacin, you can take Nutritional

Yeast " Flakes " - it is #6 on the iHerb list; take 1 heaping tablespoon two times

per day mixed into liquid. Some people like it in soup or in Bee's Egg Drink.

It has a nice nutty flavor.

All the best, Bee

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Interesting, I never heard of that before. My question on this is, I have been

prescribed minerals in the past by physicians (iron, Potassium) and they did

work and was effective. My body didn't build up a resistance to them. I wonder

in what way was he referring too on the biofilm part. Maybe multivitamins?

Reda Guyness

>

> Someone whose opinion on health issues I value, was talking to me about

vitamin supplements, and that the body will build up a resistance to them. He

used the term " biofilm. " If I heard him correctly, he said that supplements may

be more effective if you take them for three weeks, then don't take any for a

week.

>

> When my energy drags, or I don't feel so great, I may wonder about the

vitamins I'm taking. Maybe resistance does build up. But for me, a good guess

is that I've just been lazy and failing to exercise enough! ;-)

>

> Clicking on the Confused About Vitamin Supplements? link on this website, I

see: " … there are times where I just get tired of taking pills and I take a

rest. I think it might even be healthy to do that. "

>

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I take a multi, B-12, Calcium, Iron and D. MarilouOn Oct 10, 2010, at 8:23 PM, lanac wrote:What vitamins should I be taking???I take a multi-vitamin..should I be taking more? Calcium?/Input please??

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hi drissia,

just wondered if you tried the the low and slow approach with the enzymes and

probiotics?? my lads tolerated diving stright in, but my daughter has to start

on tiny amounts. and don't be ashamed to ask so many questions, we all started

somewhere :-) I remember on enzymes and autism group, dana used to answer

hundreds of questions for me.

emma

mum to 1 DD with DCD, 2 DS with ASD

>

> Dana,

>

> I have asked you so much, I am almost ashamed to keep coming back again.

> He weighs 120lbs.

> AM:

> 10 mg. Abilify

> pear puree(jr. baby food)w/

> taurine-325mg

> Tmg/wfolinic acid and methylb12

> tmg-500,mb12-6mcg,folinic acid-400mcg

> Buffered vit. c-500mg

> Bcomplex/coenzymes pro-support powder-1/8 tsp.

> thiamine-6mg

> riboflavin-6mg

> niacinamide-5mg

> biotin-75mg

> panothenic acid-3mg

> p5p-8mg

> choline citrate-35mg

>

> 2 tsp. liquid vit. from country life

> 1 tsp. liquid l-carnitine-1000mg

> 1 tsp. nordic naturals CLO

>

> Night 20 mg abilify

>

> Takes Bentyl for IBS as needed. Milk of magnesia-2 tsp. 3x week for

constipation. Natural Calm magnesium if possible.

> Thanks a bunch for your help. I have tried HNI enzymes which seem to cause

stomach distress and behaviors, same with probiotics. History of acid reflux.

>

> Drissia

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> Dana,

> AM:

> 10 mg. Abilify

I can't comment on rx medications, sorry.

> pear puree(jr. baby food)w/

> taurine-325mg

> Tmg/wfolinic acid and methylb12

> tmg-500,mb12-6mcg,folinic acid-400mcg

> Buffered vit. c-500mg

> Bcomplex/coenzymes pro-support powder-1/8 tsp.

> thiamine-6mg

> riboflavin-6mg

> niacinamide-5mg

> biotin-75mg

> panothenic acid-3mg

> p5p-8mg

> choline citrate-35mg

That is a huge dose of biotin. Are you sure it isn't 75mcg, which would be a

small dose?

> 2 tsp. liquid vit. from country life

> 1 tsp. liquid l-carnitine-1000mg

> 1 tsp. nordic naturals CLO

>

> Night 20 mg abilify

>

> Takes Bentyl for IBS as needed. Milk of magnesia-2 tsp. 3x week for

constipation. Natural Calm magnesium if possible.

For constipation, you can try increasing the magnesium, or the yeast protocol.

Most of what you are giving will tend to increase yeast, and you really having

nothing to help with that.

I don't see a problem giving all of these items together. Most of them are low

doses.

> Thanks a bunch for your help. I have tried HNI enzymes which seem to cause

stomach distress and behaviors, same with probiotics. History of acid reflux.

Try Kirkman or Klaire enzymes, see if those work better. Or a pancreatic

enzyme.

My son never really did tolerate probiotics. The longest time I was ever able

to use them successfully was a month. I used biotin instead.

Dana

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> Hello there,

> Just wondering if you guys have any suggestions on any paticular brand of

vitamins to consume. I usually buy my vitamins from vita cost.com but usually

have to buy a few bottles. I would like to reduce my amout and try to get them

in one bottle or two.To save some cash.

>>> Hi Irma. I've heard others tell of the good prices at Vita Cost.

I buy most of mine from iHerb, using Bee's link on her website.

<http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/resource/iherb.php>

You'll just have to price compare.

, began 03/09/10

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GMP is a fairly well respected third party certification. " Good

Manufacturing Practices " . They audit companies and check active ingredients

for accuracy.

I sell supplements in my health food store, and for the most part I agree

with you that you don't have to spend a lot to get a good quality

supplement. I'd be wary of those without any third party certifications and

are dirt cheap, but other than that, you're probably OK.

I really like Now Foods brand (www.nowfoods.com).

Buddy

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www.drtouchinsky.com

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Kahl.Matt <matt.kahl@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I've opted over the last few years to buy my vitamins from the brand my

> grocery store and Walgreens both carry. People debate and get pretty

> insistent about which company makes the best supps. The only reason I

> chose this one is because almost all of their choices have a USP stamp.

> To me this is the closest thing to a recognized audit of what's actually

> inside. Now I'm not arguing that they are the highest quality but at

> least I know that they have proven the quanties and ingredients are in

> there. I was considering adding Vitamin D to the list, at least for

> winter. The tablets they have are all stamped USP but the gel caps are

> not. I'd prefer the gelcaps as I've heard doctors debate wether " dry "

> vitamins have any actually value at all. Is anyone else aware of

> another label that has the USP stamps? What other recognized

> verification/audit stamps do you trust?

>

> Matt Kahl

> Kenoshoa, WI

>

>

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Hi Buddy

 

Consumer Labs. com   -NOW formula  Superior Mens Multi Vitamin. not

recommended failed testing.

report say >(above niacin, and at level found for folic acid) also 258.8% of

claimed Folic Acid. 

 I did not look through entire sight-but did come across that product today

when i was looking at mulit vitamins.

 

Joe

Scituate, MA

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I've opted over the last few years to buy my vitamins from the brand my

> grocery store and Walgreens both carry. People debate and get pretty

> insistent about which company makes the best supps. The only reason I

> chose this one is because almost all of their choices have a USP stamp.

> To me this is the closest thing to a recognized audit of what's actually

> inside. Now I'm not arguing that they are the highest quality but at

> least I know that they have proven the quanties and ingredients are in

> there. I was considering adding Vitamin D to the list, at least for

> winter. The tablets they have are all stamped USP but the gel caps are

> not. I'd prefer the gelcaps as I've heard doctors debate wether " dry "

> vitamins have any actually value at all. Is anyone else aware of

> another label that has the USP stamps? What other recognized

> verification/audit stamps do you trust?

>

> Matt Kahl

> Kenoshoa, WI

>

>

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I've seen that before. They also had a small issue with black cohosh which

they corrected.

Have 1 or 2 minor issues does not ruin the entire line for me. I still

think they are good quality and priced reasonably.

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Buddy A. Touchinsky, D.C.

City? Country?

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 7:57 PM, ph <jhayes2133@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hi Buddy

>

> Consumer Labs. com -NOW formula Superior Mens Multi Vitamin. not

> recommended failed testing.

> report say >(above niacin, and at level found for folic acid) also 258.8%

> of claimed Folic Acid.

> I did not look through entire sight-but did come across that product today

> when i was looking at mulit vitamins.

>

> Joe

> Scituate, MA

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I've opted over the last few years to buy my vitamins from the brand my

> > grocery store and Walgreens both carry. People debate and get pretty

> > insistent about which company makes the best supps. The only reason I

> > chose this one is because almost all of their choices have a USP stamp.

> > To me this is the closest thing to a recognized audit of what's actually

> > inside. Now I'm not arguing that they are the highest quality but at

> > least I know that they have proven the quanties and ingredients are in

> > there. I was considering adding Vitamin D to the list, at least for

> > winter. The tablets they have are all stamped USP but the gel caps are

> > not. I'd prefer the gelcaps as I've heard doctors debate wether " dry "

> > vitamins have any actually value at all. Is anyone else aware of

> > another label that has the USP stamps? What other recognized

> > verification/audit stamps do you trust?

> >

> > Matt Kahl

> > Kenoshoa, WI

> >

> >

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The following may be useful:

http://www.purecaps.com/

http://www.lef.org/

Thanks

Carruthers

Wakefield, UK

>

> Hi,

>

> I've opted over the last few years to buy my vitamins from the brand my

> grocery store and Walgreens both carry. People debate and get pretty

> insistent about which company makes the best supps. The only reason I

> chose this one is because almost all of their choices have a USP stamp.

> To me this is the closest thing to a recognized audit of what's actually

> inside. Now I'm not arguing that they are the highest quality but at

> least I know that they have proven the quanties and ingredients are in

> there. I was considering adding Vitamin D to the list, at least for

> winter. The tablets they have are all stamped USP but the gel caps are

> not. I'd prefer the gelcaps as I've heard doctors debate wether " dry "

> vitamins have any actually value at all. Is anyone else aware of

> another label that has the USP stamps? What other recognized

> verification/audit stamps do you trust?

>

> Matt Kahl

> Kenoshoa, WI

>

>

>

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Hi there,

I hope others will jump in here but I did want to mention that some of the

autism protocols restrict copper and iron. Dr. Amy Yasko limits these and I have

had improvement on the Modified Yasko protocol developed by Rich Van Konyenburg

(or Konynenburg -apologies to Rich).

Dr. Yasko has a multi vitamin that she uses but I use a different one that was

recommended to me by an autism mother (I teach 2 autistic kids in my Sunday

school class). It is Klaire Labs Vita Spectrum.

I am doing better on this multi vitamin than any other. In addition to no

copper or iron, it has some bioavailable vitamins/supplements to assist in

methylation or to bypass methylation defects.

For example, MTHFR genetic polymorphism means difficulty or inability to process

folic acid from foods and convert it to the two bioavailabe forms 5 methyl tetra

hydrofolate (5 MTHF) and 5 formyl tetra hydrofolate, so this vitamin has 5 MTHF

instead of regular folic acid so the body can just use it without having to

convert it.

I do not use the normal daily dose of 6 capsules. I am currently taking 3

capsules daily.

I purchase mine at a local compounding pharmacy that specializes in the

supplements for various autistic protocols. It costs $32 for a one months

supply (at 6/day) so it is very cost effective.

HTH,

Marti

>

> Many years ago Cheney, M.D., PhD. recommended that those with ME use take

a multi-vitamin WITHOUT copper and iron. For several years I have been taking

Nutrient 950 by Pure Encapsulations WITHOUT copper and iron. Believe Dr. Cheney

was concerned that including copper/iron would expose us to free radicals.

>

> Would appreciate if someone knowledgeable about this issue would provide me

with some feedback. I am low on my current supply so am attempting gather your

thoughts before I invest in another supply of these vitamins.....In advance

thanks for your assistance....Healing

>

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> Many years ago Cheney, M.D., PhD. recommended that those with ME use take

a multi-vitamin WITHOUT copper and iron. For several years I have been taking

Nutrient 950 by Pure Encapsulations WITHOUT copper and iron. Believe Dr. Cheney

was concerned that including copper/iron would expose us to free radicals.

>

> Would appreciate if someone knowledgeable about this issue would provide me

with some feedback. I am low on my current supply so am attempting gather your

thoughts before I invest in another supply of these vitamins.....In advance

thanks for your assistance....Healing

I would strongly suggest you look into the Pall protocol. It's based on

research and has helped a lot of people.

Jeri <teewinot13@...>

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Normally iron is not needed much unless person has some blood loss. As far as

the cu issue goes I would do some testing inorder to be able to decide that as

you had been supplementing with no Cu (but containing zinc) supplement for some

time..Serum zinc and cupper would be fine o check that.

best wishes

nil

Vitamins

Many years ago Cheney, M.D., PhD. recommended that those with ME use take

a multi-vitamin WITHOUT copper and iron. For several years I have been taking

Nutrient 950 by Pure Encapsulations WITHOUT copper and iron. Believe Dr. Cheney

was concerned that including copper/iron would expose us to free radicals.

Would appreciate if someone knowledgeable about this issue would provide me

with some feedback. I am low on my current supply so am attempting gather your

thoughts before I invest in another supply of these vitamins.....In advance

thanks for your assistance....Healing

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Why not get tested for your levels of Iron and Copper. While at it get tested

for other metals such as lead, mercury, chromium, cadmium etc.

A hair annalysis is a cost effective way. You can get one with our a doctors

order on line or through some pharmacies.

>

> > Many years ago Cheney, M.D., PhD. recommended that those with ME use

take a multi-vitamin WITHOUT copper and iron. For several years I have been

taking Nutrient 950 by Pure Encapsulations WITHOUT copper and iron. Believe Dr.

Cheney was concerned that including copper/iron would expose us to free

radicals.

> >

> > Would appreciate if someone knowledgeable about this issue would provide me

with some feedback. I am low on my current supply so am attempting gather your

thoughts before I invest in another supply of these vitamins.....In advance

thanks for your assistance....Healing

>

> I would strongly suggest you look into the Pall protocol. It's based on

> research and has helped a lot of people.

>

> Jeri <teewinot13@...>

> @>--->---->-------------------<----<---<@

> Dr. Pall's NO/ONOO- Theory/Treatment Discussion Group:

> TenthParadigmSociety

> @>----------<---------->-----------------------<----------<----------<@

> The Tenth Paradigm - Dr. Pall's Website for CFS/MCS/FM/ETC.:

> http://www.thetenthparadigm.org

> @>----------<---------->-----------------------<----------<----------<@

> MCS-Florida - For All Chemically Sensitive Floridians

> MCS-Florida

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Hi Everyone,

What brand of vitamins do you use? Dr. G really wants my girl on

vitamins but I can't find any teen age vitamins that don't have red

coloring. I really hate to go back to Flintstones, she feels like they

are too babyish for her and I hate throwing away so many.

Thanks for any help,

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Can she swallow big pills? I personally get nauseated from any vitamins that

are not vegetarian/vegan (even though I'm not vegetarian/vegan), so I

usually take the ones from Rainbow Light. They make chewable vitamins, too.

They are sold at health food stores.

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and Daron Freedberg

Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 7:54 PM

Subject: Vitamins

Hi Everyone,

What brand of vitamins do you use? Dr. G really wants my girl on

vitamins but I can't find any teen age vitamins that don't have red

coloring. I really hate to go back to Flintstones, she feels like they

are too babyish for her and I hate throwing away so many.

Thanks for any help,

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Pure forms of vitamins that are free of known allergens can be purchased from

places like

http://www.myvillagegreen.com/c-695-pharmacy-compounding.aspx or even

http://www.leesilsby.com/ I am sure that there are others. I did find out

recently that Leesilsby will try to bill insurance and if any of you have

Tricare they cover some of the items as long as you have a doctors script.

Sheri

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Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 8:28:37 AM

Subject: Re: Vitamins

I plan to check GNC and other such stores for a low allergy vitamin - if you

find one, please let us know.

________________________________

From: and Daron Freedberg <mdfreedberg@...>

Sent: Mon, March 21, 2011 9:53:36 PM

Subject: Vitamins

Hi Everyone,

What brand of vitamins do you use? Dr. G really wants my girl on

vitamins but I can't find any teen age vitamins that don't have red

coloring. I really hate to go back to Flintstones, she feels like they

are too babyish for her and I hate throwing away so many.

Thanks for any help,

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You can try the " oukidsasd " website. They sell lee silsby, Kirkman etc...

Everything is all in one place, lots of powdered formulations, and they are

organized and responsive.

Sylvia

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On Mar 22, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Sheri Brown <eszbibb@...> wrote:

> Pure forms of vitamins that are free of known allergens can be purchased from

> places like

>

> http://www.myvillagegreen.com/c-695-pharmacy-compounding.aspx or even

> http://www.leesilsby.com/ I am sure that there are others. I did find out

> recently that Leesilsby will try to bill insurance and if any of you have

> Tricare they cover some of the items as long as you have a doctors script.

> Sheri

>

> ________________________________

> From: <thecolemans4@...>

>

> Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 8:28:37 AM

> Subject: Re: Vitamins

>

> I plan to check GNC and other such stores for a low allergy vitamin - if you

> find one, please let us know.

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: and Daron Freedberg <mdfreedberg@...>

>

> Sent: Mon, March 21, 2011 9:53:36 PM

> Subject: Vitamins

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> What brand of vitamins do you use? Dr. G really wants my girl on

> vitamins but I can't find any teen age vitamins that don't have red

> coloring. I really hate to go back to Flintstones, she feels like they

> are too babyish for her and I hate throwing away so many.

>

> Thanks for any help,

>

>

>

>

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