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On Feb 7, 2010, at 7:02 AM, Professor Val wrote:

> But Dr. D's vitamins have Magnesium Stearate...

Unless they are powdered, most vitamins have that immune system toxin.

:-(

Nasty...

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hello,

I may be barking up the wrong tree but as far as I know if you don't need vitd3

it can cause calc build up which i would imagine would not be that great for

brain, only saying because end ( I know ) asked if I was taking vitd3

supplements ( told a white lie...) as calcium reading was high- over upper limit

( don't eat a lot of dairy )..also as per the vit c i take it is in tablet form

and soluble as the latter not that great and can have lot of fillers, my problem

there was it gave me bad skin.Somebody more learned like chris or bob may also

add..

xx

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To find out whether either are connected to this symptoms, I

would stop your vitamin D3 and carry on taking only the vitamin C and see if

the brain fog and tiredness persists. If it does, then stop the vitamin C and

wait and see again. If you still have these symptoms, obviously it is related

to neither. If symptoms disappear after stopping vitamin C, then start the

vitamin D once again. The majority of people who suffer with hypothyroidism find

they need high doses of both vitamin C and vitamin D3 (what D vitamin are you

taking Angel?)

I think it most likely it is caused because your thyroid hormone

replacement is being stopped from being properly absorbed into your cells,

which could be because you have one of the associated conditions that goes

along with being hypothyroid. i.e. low adrenal reserve, systemic candidiasis,

low ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper or zinc. Will

your GP check out the last 7 possibilities?

Luv - Sheila

Hi all, decided to try vitamin C and D. after a few days i

seem to feel a bit of brain fog.

a question- could it be the vitamin D that is the problem, I can`t believe

that it is the vitamin C.

vitC 500mg and vitamin D 400IU. Maybe I don`t need the vit D and this is why

i am having this problem. my brain feels a bit vacant and tyred. could it be

the vit C? could it be affecting me?.

thanks for any help with this. Angel.

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Hi Jill

Thanks for the reminder. It is extremely important that members

should not start taking supplements of any kind without first ensuring they

need them. Get the specific blood tests required and if they show low in the

reference range, then supplement. Taking supplements when not required can

cause all sorts of problems and can interact with other medication you are

taking, to take care.

Luv - Sheila

I may be barking up the wrong tree but as far as I know if you don't need vitd3

it can cause calc build up which i would imagine would not be that great for

brain, only saying because end ( I know ) asked if I was taking vitd3 supplements

( told a white lie...) as calcium reading was high- over upper limit ( don't

eat a lot of dairy )..also as per the vit c i take it is in tablet form and

soluble as the latter not that great and can have lot of fillers, my problem

there was it gave me bad skin.Somebody more learned like chris or bob may also

add..

xx

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Hi Jill, thanks for your time on this ,but I have now read the label on the bottle of D3 and it seems to have some sort of iron in them.ummmm. took it in the am with my natural thyroid.oh maybe wrong it is iron oxide what ever that is!! only fillers such as malodextrin,cellulose ,plus coating hypromellose,glycerin,titanium dioxide,silica,stearic acid-of vegetable origin, magnesium stearate-of vegetable origin. all this for a vit D pill, makes you think.!!got them from(healthspan) and the vitamin C.I am not going to take the vit D for now but will try the vit C for one week starting Monday and see what happens. felt so not with it that I have cut my finger and now it has puss in it, went to my local drop-in centre to get it done ,but when i told the nurse that i have a problem with plasters (contact dermatitis) and possible psoriasis, she went white

and talked me out of treatment, so I will have to go to my own doctors treatment room now. grrrr. I wish i had more confidence to speak up for my self. i should have insisted on having it opened up and washed out. regards Angel.

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Sorry was meaning fillers in soluble vit c if not tablet form you are

taking..it's amazing what people do to these supplements, I found out that my

selenium has brewers yeast..yeah!!..NOT..Also re the vit d3 thing taking and the

boosting calcium levels too high therefore can become an indavertant binder..

I have the MOTHER of all blisters on my ankle..was on a mission last week to get

back to fitness regime power walked 6 miles in an hour, 2 days in a row but my

running trainers given up the ghost, and the blister the result. I have had

blisters before due to my previous running but NEVER like this and now

infected..I heard tumeric capsules good for fighting infection so have been

taking them ,don't want my fourth course of antibiotics in 5 months ...wine a

-calling, know I shouldn't but we had to go an a mercy cooker buying dash as

ours died at 6.oo pm. 2day, husband was supposed to be cooking and just put him

in a an even better mood..!!

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Be

glad of the Brewers Yeast Jill. Brewers yeast (nature's wonder food) contains

many different vitamins, minerals and amino acids. The major vitamins

are:-

Vitamin

B1

(thiamin) – releases energy from carbohydrate in the diet, and is

important for the heart and nervous system.

Vitamin

B2

(riboflavin) – releases energy from carbohydrate in the diet, and

maintains healthy skin, eyes and digestive tract.

Niacin (Vitamin B3)

– releases energy from carbohydrate, and helps to maintain healthy skin,

digestive tract and nervous system.

Luv

- Sheila

Sorry was meaning fillers in soluble vit c if not tablet form you are

taking..it's amazing what people do to these supplements, I found out that my

selenium has brewers yeast..yeah!!..NOT..Also re the vit d3 thing taking and

the boosting calcium levels too high therefore can become an indavertant

binder..

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i thought with the regards to the yeast part sheila it would be bad overall as

re candidia..? or is brewers yeast completely different on that front..?

xx

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Get some colloidal silver gel, it will zap that

inflammation quick time.

Bethann

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ignorance...it is the illusion of knowledge "

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Jill wrote:

> Sorry was meaning fillers in soluble vit c if not tablet form you are

> taking..it's amazing what people do to these supplements, I found out

> that my selenium has brewers yeast..yeah! !..NOT..Also re the vit d3

> thing taking and the boosting calcium levels too high therefore can

> become an indavertant binder..

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Hi Jill

Brewers

yeast should not be confused with baker's yeast, which is used to make yeast breads. Uncooked baker's

yeast can rob your body of valuable B vitamins. Beneficial nutritional Brewer's

yeast does not contribute to yeast infections such as Candida albicans. Food

yeasts are not infectious. Nutritional yeasts are not live yeast cells. Have a

look at the information here http://www.diet-and-health.net/Supplements/BrewersYeast.html

Luv -

Sheila

i thought with the regards to the yeast part sheila it would be bad overall as

re candidia..? or is brewers yeast completely different on that front..?

xx

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hi sheila,

between my asking and your reply i had a quick look on the internet and a few

things came up

http://www.healthexcel.com/docs/_cand1.html

http://www.answers.com/topic/brewer-s-yeast

http://www.diagnose-me.com/treat/T372380.html

i know my dad takes it on its own but as I suffer probale candida related

conditions, I think i'll leave my selenium( one with brewers yeast ) supplement

at mo, and i seem to be fairing better afterwards may just be coincidence

though.

x

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Hi Joanne,

Centrum makes an Adult Chewable vitamin that I use all the time. Look for it. I found mine at Walmart and they work great.

Suzanne

In a message dated 4/16/2010 12:15:01 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, joannebodeen@... writes:

Hi There! I see Centrum has discontinued their multivitamin liquid....I still have a problem w/pills, some I HAVE to take as pills (for heart & HRT) so anyone found a good liquid multivitamin? tx. joanne

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Centrum has an awesome orange flavored chewable if that's an option!!

Chrysi

From: joannebodeen@...Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:44:44 -0400Subject: vitamins

Hi There! I see Centrum has discontinued their multivitamin liquid....I still have a problem w/pills, some I HAVE to take as pills (for heart & HRT) so anyone found a good liquid multivitamin? tx. joanne

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Hi Can I ask what vitamins should we be taking. I read on facebook that vitamins with Hep C can be dangerous. I know Iron is bad, but are there any other vitamins that we should avoid?thanks so much!ny

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Me again.

You would probably be ok with some vitamins as long as you dont over-do them.

I would suggest go easy with a simple - Mens Formula multi-vitamin [less iron].

You can buy this at a Walmarts store if you have one near you.

Here are some good articles for you to read. Click these links.

- Vitamin Supplements: Are They for Everyone?

http://Hepatitis Cnewdrugs.blogspot.com/2010/04/vitamin-supplements-are-they-for.html

- DDW: Vitamin A Boosts Response to HCV Treatment

http://Hepatitis Cnewdrugs.blogspot.com/2010/05/ddw-vitamin-boosts-response-to-hcv.html- EASL/Vitamin D to conventional Peg/RBV therapy for naïve, genotype 1 patients with chronic infection significantly improve SVR

http://Hepatitis Cnewdrugs.blogspot.com/2010/04/easlvitamin-d-to-conventional-pegrbv.html

- more:

http://health.dir./group/ /links/010___Vitamins_001253433863/

You should discuss this topic with your doctor, .

Doctors generally dont deal too much with vitamins and suppliments, but you may have one that does.

There also may be special conciderations in your case.

love

don in ks

From: Barrett <barrjohnm@...>Subject: Re: [ ] vitamins Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 7:26 PM

Hi Can I ask what vitamins should we be taking. I read on facebook that vitamins with Hep C can be dangerous. I know Iron is bad, but are there any other vitamins that we should avoid?thanks so much!ny

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Hi Don,thanks so much!I have been taking a multi-vitamin(no iron), and I just stared taking vitamin D today.thanks so much for the links I am reading about this tonight. I did not know about the vitamin A, so going to read about this.yeah I guess as I don't over do them they will be okay, but since having Hep C, I am careful to what I take, as I should be!thanks so much!ny

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Hi Don,

Sorry to bug you again. These links you provide don’t make

sense. I am not questioning you, just the media – which is exactly why

people are so confused about what supplements are ok to take or not to take..so

many mixed messages.

The first link here says not to take vitamin A over the daily dose,

the second says high dose vitamin A helps HCV treatment.

Just like the other day we were saying that metformin is

contraindicated in liver disease, yet is said to be helpful in HCV treatment.

Just doesn’t make sense…….unless Tx depletes

nutrients? Is there any info on that? Might be interesting to know.

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Sent: June 21, 2010 10:47 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] vitamins

Hi

Me again.

You would probably be ok with some vitamins as long as you

dont over-do them.

I would suggest go easy with a simple - Mens Formula

multi-vitamin [less iron].

You can buy this at a Walmarts store if you have one near

you.

Here are some good articles for you to read.

Click these links.

- Vitamin Supplements: Are They for Everyone?

http://Hepatitis Cnewdrugs.blogspot.com/2010/04/vitamin-supplements-are-they-for.html

- DDW: Vitamin A Boosts Response to HCV Treatment

http://Hepatitis Cnewdrugs.blogspot.com/2010/05/ddw-vitamin-boosts-response-to-hcv.html

- EASL/Vitamin D to conventional Peg/RBV therapy for naïve, genotype 1

patients with chronic infection significantly improve SVR

http://Hepatitis Cnewdrugs.blogspot.com/2010/04/easlvitamin-d-to-conventional-pegrbv.html

- more:

http://health.dir./group/ /links/010___Vitamins_001253433863/

You should discuss this topic with your doctor, .

Doctors generally dont deal too much with vitamins and

suppliments, but you may have one that does.

There also may be special conciderations in your case.

love

don in ks

From: Barrett <barrjohnm@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] vitamins

Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 7:26 PM

Hi

Can I ask what vitamins should we be taking. I read on facebook that vitamins

with Hep C can be dangerous. I know Iron is bad, but are there any other

vitamins that we should avoid?

thanks so much!

ny

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Tx does deplete nutrients and everything else too. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: "" <playtime@...>Sender: Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:33:58 -0400< >Reply Subject: RE: [ ] vitamins Hi Don, Sorry to bug you again. These links you provide don’t makesense. I am not questioning you, just the media – which is exactly whypeople are so confused about what supplements are ok to take or not to take..somany mixed messages. The first link here says not to take vitamin A over the daily dose,the second says high dose vitamin A helps HCV treatment. Just like the other day we were saying that metformin iscontraindicated in liver disease, yet is said to be helpful in HCV treatment. Just doesn’t make sense…….unless Tx depletesnutrients? Is there any info on that? Might be interesting to know. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of ChristSent: June 21, 2010 10:47 PM Subject: Re: [ ] vitamins Hi Me again.You would probably be ok with some vitamins as long as youdont over-do them.I would suggest go easy with a simple - Mens Formulamulti-vitamin [less iron].You can buy this at a Walmarts store if you have one nearyou. Here are some good articles for you to read.Click these links. - Vitamin Supplements: Are They for Everyone?http://Hepatitis Cnewdrugs.blogspot.com/2010/04/vitamin-supplements-are-they-for.html - DDW: Vitamin A Boosts Response to HCV Treatmenthttp://Hepatitis Cnewdrugs.blogspot.com/2010/05/ddw-vitamin-boosts-response-to-hcv.html- EASL/Vitamin D to conventional Peg/RBV therapy for naïve, genotype 1patients with chronic infection significantly improve SVRhttp://Hepatitis Cnewdrugs.blogspot.com/2010/04/easlvitamin-d-to-conventional-pegrbv.html - more:http://health.dir./group/ /links/010___Vitamins_001253433863/ You should discuss this topic with your doctor, .Doctors generally dont deal too much with vitamins andsuppliments, but you may have one that does.There also may be special conciderations in your case. lovedon in ksFrom: Barrett <barrjohnm >Subject: Re: [ ] vitamins Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 7:26 PM HiCan I ask what vitamins should we be taking. I read on facebook that vitaminswith Hep C can be dangerous. I know Iron is bad, but are there any othervitamins that we should avoid?thanks so much!ny

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Just have to throw a little bit of humour in here!! You would really think that someone that lives in Hawaii would not have much worry about the sunshine vitamin - wouldn't you???

Hi Don,thanks so much!I have been taking a multi-vitamin( no iron), and I just stared taking vitamin D today.thanks so much for the links I am reading about this tonight. I did not know about the vitamin A, so going to read about this.yeah I guess as I don't over do them they will be okay, but since having Hep C, I am careful to what I take, as I should be!thanks so much!ny

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There was a time, a very very long time, that I highly believed in taking vitamins and they had to be top of the line!! However, I also highly believed in finding out what one's own body needed. It was only the last few years before I was diagnosed that I even took any multi-vitamins.I used to take the Vita B and C because I was a smoker and even when I was drinking. Then, I had to add a Vita E with selenium because I'm not supposed to drink real coffee (I don't have coffee anymore). Later, it was the Calcium/Magnesium for the bones and finally Black Cohosh with something for a woman's change of life.During my first treatment, I got so tired of swallowing pills that I quit with the Vitamins. Besides, so I figured, a whole lot of good

they had ever done for my health anyway. I did not get back into the habit again since.I fully believe today that a person is a whole lot better off, buying all the best veggies and fruits for juicing. Now that Jane has reminded me again - I'm definitely going to bring my juicer out here with me. Since this is the time of year to be able to get so many fresh fruits and veggies, I want to give a try to Jane's suggested and do enough for the freezer. I'm almost drooling just thinking of mixing fresh juicy strawberries with other kinds of fruits or even with the veggies.Gloria

Hi Don, Sorry to bug you again. These links you provide don’t make

sense. I am not questioning you, just the media – which is exactly why

people are so confused about what supplements are ok to take or not to take..so

many mixed messages. The first link here says not to take vitamin A over the daily dose,

the second says high dose vitamin A helps HCV treatment. Just like the other day we were saying that metformin is

contraindicated in liver disease, yet is said to be helpful in HCV treatment. Just doesn’t make sense…….unless Tx depletes

nutrients? Is there any info on that? Might be interesting to know.

From:

[mailto:HepCWebWarr iors@groups .com] On Behalf Of Christ

Sent: June 21, 2010 10:47 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] vitamins

Hi

Me again.

You would probably be ok with some vitamins as long as you

dont over-do them.

I would suggest go easy with a simple - Mens Formula

multi-vitamin [less iron].

You can buy this at a Walmarts store if you have one near

you.

Here are some good articles for you to read.

Click these links.

- Vitamin Supplements: Are They for Everyone?

http://Hepatitis Cne wdrugs.blogspot. com/2010/ 04/vitamin- supplements- are-they- for.html

- DDW: Vitamin A Boosts Response to HCV Treatment

http://Hepatitis Cne wdrugs.blogspot. com/2010/ 05/ddw-vitamin- boosts-response- to-hcv.html

- EASL/Vitamin D to conventional Peg/RBV therapy for naïve, genotype 1

patients with chronic infection significantly improve SVR

http://Hepatitis Cne wdrugs.blogspot. com/2010/ 04/easlvitamin- d-to-conventiona l-pegrbv. html

- more:

http://health. dir.groups. / group/HepCWebWar riors/links/ 010___Vitamins_ 001253433863/

You should discuss this topic with your doctor, .

Doctors generally dont deal too much with vitamins and

suppliments, but you may have one that does.

There also may be special conciderations in your case.

love

don in ks

From: Barrett <barrjohnm (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: [ ] vitamins

Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 7:26 PM

Hi

Can I ask what vitamins should we be taking. I read on facebook that vitamins

with Hep C can be dangerous. I know Iron is bad, but are there any other

vitamins that we should avoid?

thanks so much!

ny

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Gloria,I told ny once before that one of the positives about his tx is that he is doing it in paradise. I would love to get back there again.... one day, after I win the lottery.TeriFrom: Gloria <gadamscan@...> Sent: Tue, June 22, 2010 11:26:34 PMSubject: Re: [ ] vitamins

Just have to throw a little bit of humour in here!! You would really think that someone that lives in Hawaii would not have much worry about the sunshine vitamin - wouldn't you???

Hi Don,thanks so much!I have been taking a multi-vitamin( no iron), and I just stared taking vitamin D today.thanks so much for the links I am reading about this tonight. I did not know about the vitamin A, so going to read about this.yeah I guess as I don't over do them they will be okay, but since having Hep C, I am careful to what I take, as I should be!thanks so much!ny

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Please share your recipes for juicing. I don't really know anything about it, but it has got to be much better than manufactored supplements.http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 " "A well- behaved woman never made history"...Mae Westhttp://oktravels.wordpress.com http://allrecipes.com/cook/TrudyK/profile.aspx On Jun 23, 2010, at 12:09 AM, Gloria <gadamscan@...> wrote:

There was a time, a very very long time, that I highly believed in taking vitamins and they had to be top of the line!! However, I also highly believed in finding out what one's own body needed. It was only the last few years before I was diagnosed that I even took any multi-vitamins.I used to take the Vita B and C because I was a smoker and even when I was drinking. Then, I had to add a Vita E with selenium because I'm not supposed to drink real coffee (I don't have coffee anymore). Later, it was the Calcium/Magnesium for the bones and finally Black Cohosh with something for a woman's change of life.During my first treatment, I got so tired of swallowing pills that I quit with the Vitamins. Besides, so I figured, a whole lot of good

they had ever done for my health anyway. I did not get back into the habit again since.I fully believe today that a person is a whole lot better off, buying all the best veggies and fruits for juicing. Now that Jane has reminded me again - I'm definitely going to bring my juicer out here with me. Since this is the time of year to be able to get so many fresh fruits and veggies, I want to give a try to Jane's suggested and do enough for the freezer. I'm almost drooling just thinking of mixing fresh juicy strawberries with other kinds of fruits or even with the veggies.Gloria

Hi Don, Sorry to bug you again. These links you provide don’t make

sense. I am not questioning you, just the media – which is exactly why

people are so confused about what supplements are ok to take or not to take..so

many mixed messages. The first link here says not to take vitamin A over the daily dose,

the second says high dose vitamin A helps HCV treatment. Just like the other day we were saying that metformin is

contraindicated in liver disease, yet is said to be helpful in HCV treatment. Just doesn’t make sense…….unless Tx depletes

nutrients? Is there any info on that? Might be interesting to know.

From:

[mailto:HepCWebWarr iors@groups .com] On Behalf Of Christ

Sent: June 21, 2010 10:47 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] vitamins

Hi

Me again.

You would probably be ok with some vitamins as long as you

dont over-do them.

I would suggest go easy with a simple - Mens Formula

multi-vitamin [less iron].

You can buy this at a Walmarts store if you have one near

you.

Here are some good articles for you to read.

Click these links.

- Vitamin Supplements: Are They for Everyone?

http://Hepatitis Cne wdrugs.blogspot. com/2010/ 04/vitamin- supplements- are-they- for.html

- DDW: Vitamin A Boosts Response to HCV Treatment

http://Hepatitis Cne wdrugs.blogspot. com/2010/ 05/ddw-vitamin- boosts-response- to-hcv.html

- EASL/Vitamin D to conventional Peg/RBV therapy for naïve, genotype 1

patients with chronic infection significantly improve SVR

http://Hepatitis Cne wdrugs.blogspot. com/2010/ 04/easlvitamin- d-to-conventiona l-pegrbv. html

- more:

http://health. dir.groups. / group/HepCWebWar riors/links/ 010___Vitamins_ 001253433863/

You should discuss this topic with your doctor, .

Doctors generally dont deal too much with vitamins and

suppliments, but you may have one that does.

There also may be special conciderations in your case.

love

don in ks

From: Barrett <barrjohnm (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: [ ] vitamins

Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 7:26 PM

Hi

Can I ask what vitamins should we be taking. I read on facebook that vitamins

with Hep C can be dangerous. I know Iron is bad, but are there any other

vitamins that we should avoid?

thanks so much!

ny

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Go to our FILES (from the Home Page of this forum web site).

Scroll down to the one entitled 'Nutrition' and read the about the recommended

supplements listed by our medical adviser Dr Theodora Mantzourani - and she

tells you the reasons WHY she recommends these.

Luv - Sheila

as you advised, I am going to get the salivary test done,can you tell me the

recommended vitamins and the dosage i should take on a daily basis,i am finding

the more messages i'm reading the more confused i'm getting,do i buy these

vitamins separately or in a multi vitamin? are all brands the same or are there

specific ones that are more popular?,please can you give me the brand name you

use how much a day is needed i am also wondering when i get my salivary test

results if i need medication do i also get that information on the website.

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