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which shampoo do you wash their hair with to keep them bugs away?i m so worried that my boys will get them bugs....thank you.Christie~Troy and

From: beachbodytan2002@...Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 11:49:01 -0700Subject: Re: ( ) vitamins

LOL, I do the same thing, I get extra vitamin C and multi sports vitamins from the health food store. Also, I wash their hair with a shampoo to protect them from lice. hate those little bugs !. then I tie their hair up for the first month ...

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What vitamins do you give your aspie? My son is 10 and he takes ritalin and depakote, hardly eats anything, especially fruits and veggies. I had read something about B6 and magnesium, but didn't know if this was in addition to a mulit vitamin or not and does it work for you? I have tried chewable, gummies, etc and he doesn't like those. I haven't seen any children's that are NOT chewable or gummies and didn't know if in the adults there were too much of one, not enough of another, etc. I want to get him started with something before school starts. thanks.

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tonya, I believe that is your name,

I am replying about the vitamins. I give my son omega 3 which is

great for their brain and many other things and I give him vita

balls. they are a multi vitamin and they come in a gum ball. My son

hates chewable anything but he loves gum and they dont taste bad

because I have chewed them before. I buy them at wallmart.gina

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ritalin and depakote, hardly eats anything, especially fruits and

veggies. I had read something about B6 and magnesium, but didn't know

if this was in addition to a mulit vitamin or not and does it work

for you? I have tried chewable, gummies, etc and he doesn't like

those. I haven't seen any children's that are NOT chewable or gummies

and didn't know if in the adults there were too much of one, not

enough of another, etc. I want to get him started with something

before school starts. thanks.

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You are very fortunate to have such a good psychiatrist! Ours never ran

a single blood or medical test. He offers a different med every time we

go in and when I go home and research the drug they are new and his

prescribing them is " off label " usage. Not one single doctor we have

seen during the full year we tried to get a diagnosis checked for

vitamin deficiencies, not even when I asked. What state do you live in?

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> > What vitamins do you give your aspie?

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> Your family physician can very easily test for any vitamin

> deficiencies. It is a standard blood test that they do all the time.

> As a matter of fact, I doubt your psychiatrist started medication

> without checking this first. If you haven't already, you could see if

> they haven't already checked and if it is time for another check. I

> don't see the point in guessing about vitamins when you can find out

> for sure. There are also autism doctors who specialize in this sort

> of thing, along with the immune system problems many autistics have.

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I use RID lice Shampoo, then I put gel or anything that you leave in the hair. I've been told by many different people that lice love clean hair. So hair spray, gel, leave in conditioners, oils, etc...they I tie their hair up. I always see those warning notes the first month of school. " lice outbreak ". And I have gotten too lazy to deal with those bugs !!! if you cruise the net, you can find organic lice shampoo too.christie speckel <packerpenguin@...> wrote: which shampoo do

you wash their hair with to keep them bugs away?i m so worried that my boys will get them bugs....thank you.Christie~Troy and From: beachbodytan2002 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 11:49:01 -0700Subject: Re: ( ) vitamins LOL, I do the same thing, I get extra vitamin C and multi sports vitamins from the health food store. Also, I wash their hair with a shampoo to protect them from lice. hate those little bugs !. then I tie their hair up for the first month ... Rosetcstallard

<tonya.stallarddjj (DOT) virginia.gov> wrote: What vitamins do you give your aspie? My son is 10 and he takes ritalin and depakote, hardly eats anything, especially fruits and veggies. I had read something about B6 and magnesium, but didn't know if this was in addition to a mulit vitamin or not and does it work for you? I have tried chewable, gummies, etc and he doesn't like those. I haven't seen any children's that are NOT chewable or gummies and didn't know if in the adults there were too much of one, not enough of another, etc. I want to get him started with something before school starts. thanks. Got Game? Win Prizes in the Windows Live Hotmail Mobile Summer Games Trivia Contest Find out how.

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> You are very fortunate to have such a good psychiatrist! Ours never ran

> a single blood or medical test. He offers a different med every time we

> go in and when I go home and research the drug they are new and his

> prescribing them is " off label " usage. Not one single doctor we have

> seen during the full year we tried to get a diagnosis checked for

> vitamin deficiencies, not even when I asked. What state do you live in?

Wow, that's odd. Actually, the very first psychiatrist I ever took

either one of our kids to was like that, i.e., not very medical other

than giving out psych drugs. I never went back! Maybe you just need

to find a better doc. I live in Texas. --Ruth

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You're using lice shampoo to prevent lice? I've read that it isn't really the safest stuff to use.My kids have never had them so I don't have experience, but a friend treated her daughter with cetaphil after she had lice and nothing was working. You leave the cetaphil in for a few days. Seems safer to me.> What vitamins do you give your aspie? My son is 10 and he takes > ritalin and depakote, hardly eats anything, especially fruits and > veggies. I had read something about B6 and magnesium, but didn't > know if this was in addition to a mulit vitamin or not and does it > work for you? I have tried chewable, gummies, etc and he doesn't > like those. I haven't seen any children's that are NOT chewable or > gummies and didn't know if in the adults there were too much of one, > not enough of another, etc. I want to get him started with > something before school starts. thanks.> > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Got Game? Win Prizes in the Windows Live Hotmail Mobile Summer Games Trivia Contest Find out how.>

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I give my kids a multi as insurance. My son gets gummy bears since he

shouldn't have the iron (constipation) and my daughter needs the iron so

she takes Flintstones. Generics taste horrible to her.

Fish oil won't hurt, but the evidence is still a little weak for

attention problems. My kids wouldn't take them and we returned them to

costco. I bet my dog would've loved them though. He has skin problems

and they are supposed to help with the inflammation. Maybe I'll get

some again for him.

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them

> the best over other brands. I have tried the " bargain " ones and they

don't

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> to tolerate and he likes the taste of them so that is what I have been

using

> He could probably take a One a day or something like that now that

he can

> swallow pills but the Flintstone Complete seems to be pretty

nutritionally

> adequate except for Calcium and one other vitamin I can't think of.

But he

> does drink plenty of chocolate milk so the calcium is not a concern.

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thanks, I didn't know that wasn't safe to use. I do know the first month of school, after summer break is lice month. we always get a note sent home to check heads - there was an outbreak. the rest of the year was much better.kellypywtorak <kellypywtorak@...> wrote: You're using lice shampoo to prevent lice? I've read that it isn't really the safest stuff to use.My kids have never had them so I don't have experience, but a friend treated her daughter with cetaphil after she had lice and

nothing was working. You leave the cetaphil in for a few days. Seems safer to me.> What vitamins do you give your aspie? My son is 10 and he takes > ritalin and depakote, hardly eats anything, especially fruits and > veggies. I had read something about B6 and magnesium, but didn't > know if this was in addition to a mulit vitamin or not and does it > work for you? I have tried chewable, gummies, etc and he doesn't > like those. I haven't seen any children's that are NOT chewable or > gummies and didn't

know if in the adults there were too much of one, > not enough of another, etc. I want to get him started with > something before school starts. thanks.> > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Got Game? Win Prizes in the Windows Live Hotmail Mobile Summer Games Trivia Contest Find out how.>

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Hi, Jen - flintstones ar junk, I'm afraid . they don't even have the

basic things adults need (since they are kid's vits), let alone the

special things WLS patients need. i'm seeing more and more people

getting anemic, deficient in calcium iron, B1 and more.

I know some docs still sugggest Flintstones, but i can't for the life

of me understand why, wih the current info out now.

I use and highly recommend the Bariatric Advantage vits. they have

specific formulas made for each type of WLS, and the Vita-Band vits

are formualted for bandsters. See the files for the " Vitamin "

information. I listed the contact info for the wholesale person I get

mine from, if you want to save about 10%.

The document explains why we need much better vits than we thought -

I've done pretty extensive research on this in the last several

months, and have also gone to several seminars on bandster vity

needs.

Sandy r

band educator

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> Hi All,

>  

> Just curious what kind of vitamins everyone takes.  I am currently

taking flintstones vitamins but if there is a better choice out there

I would like to be making it.

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> Thanks, Jen

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Is there a file somewhere that says specifically how much of each vitamin,

etc is needed? When I compared the children's chewable that I am taking (2

each day) the amounts were the same or higher than the Centrum chewable.

I'd really like to compare apples to apples and see what, if anything, I am

missing.

I was banded May 12, 2008, have had two fills (total of 4.5) and have lost

48 pounds.

Jen

" 'For I know the plans I have for you' declares the Lord, 'plans to prosper

you and not to harm you. Plans to give you hope and a future.' "

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Subject: Re: vitamins

Hi, Jen - flintstones ar junk, I'm afraid . they don't even have the

basic things adults need (since they are kid's vits), let alone the

special things WLS patients need. i'm seeing more and more people

getting anemic, deficient in calcium iron, B1 and more.

I know some docs still sugggest Flintstones, but i can't for the life

of me understand why, wih the current info out now.

I use and highly recommend the Bariatric Advantage vits. they have

specific formulas made for each type of WLS, and the Vita-Band vits

are formualted for bandsters. See the files for the " Vitamin "

information. I listed the contact info for the wholesale person I get

mine from, if you want to save about 10%.

The document explains why we need much better vits than we thought -

I've done pretty extensive research on this in the last several

months, and have also gone to several seminars on bandster vity

needs.

Sandy r

band educator

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> Hi All,

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> Just curious what kind of vitamins everyone takes. I am currently

taking flintstones vitamins but if there is a better choice out there

I would like to be making it.

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Flintstones contain none of the micro-nutrients needed by adults for

eye health and more.

even the centrums, which dio have some of these, are not USP

approved, certifying they are the pharmaceutical grade ingredients

needed. they do not carry the USP certification on the label, and few

otc vits/supplements do.

Each vit has ingredients available online for comparison, and i'm

working on a comparison chart now.

the Bariatric Advantage vits are the ones researched and proven to

contain what bandsters need, per new research. Many docs are now

recommending them, and they are what I take and recommend.

see the vitamin document here in the files for my research and

recommendations, from the international seminars i have recently

attended with the top band researcher in the world.

Sandy r

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currently

> taking flintstones vitamins but if there is a better choice out

there

> I would like to be making it.

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> > Thanks, Jen

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Hoku ~~

Those sound like herbs to me. My hepatologist advised me not to take herbs as they are unregulated and their strength and purity can't be known. Since many of them are in combination with others there are not any studies that can tell us whether they are safe or not. I have decided to err on the side of caution and not take them. She did advise that multiple vitamins (such as Centrum) were fine. It is better to find one that doesn't have iron as taking iron is hard on the liver. There are some cases when their is little liver damage that iron can be okay WITH DOCTOR APPROVAL ONLY. It must be reviewed in light of the condition of your liver and your overall health.

I hope your tx is coming along okay and that you are not having too much trouble with sides.

Blessings,

Subject: vitaminsTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 12:56 PM

These ingredients are in my vitamins. Are any of these toxic to the liver? spirulina, bee pollen, lemon bioflavonoid complex, black currant seed, korean ginseng root, choline, inisitol, quercetin dihyrate, rutin, rna (ribonucleic acid from yeast) paba, dna (deoxyribonucleic acid from yeast), amylase, lipase, betatene, floraglo lutein, octacosanol, zeaxanthin( from marigold)

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Chasity,

My grandmother has been taking vitamins since 1960, and she smells

like them due to the amounts that she consumes. During our

infestation she was never bothered by the mites. So I believe there

to be alot of truth in what the Medicine man from India said....

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> > I think you may be referring to B2.  As for B12, during the peak

of

> my remediation, I was taking 4-6, B-12 a day or 3000umg/day.  The

> complexes I was told, did not supply what I needed.  All in all, I

> took seperately for three months, B-1, B-2, B-5, B-6, B-12, and B-

> 15.  I have now switched to a high potency B complex since my

> remediation....Frito

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> > ALSO READ SOMEWHERE THAT UPPING UR INTAKE OF B-12 TO THE POINT

> WHERE U

> > SMELL IT(?) KEEPS BUGS FROM BITING YOU. I'VE BEEN TAKING AN EXTRA

> ONE

> > A DAY AND IT SEEMS TO HELP. JUST A SUGGESTION. MIGHT BE WORTH

> > GOOGLING. CHASITY

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We go by the "Integrated Health Nutritional Guidelines for the Surgical Weight Loss Patient" (see www.asbs.org )

Amy Long Carrera MS, RD Clinical Dietitian Northridge Hospital Medical Center & Center for Weight Loss Surgery Northridge, CA Amy.Long@... 818-885-8500 x4034

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of jbach11Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 8:40 AM Subject: vitamins

What vitamins are everyone suggesting to their patients? Do you suggest the same for bands and bypass patients? Is it beneficial for bands to take 2 MVI or only bypass? Any feedback would be much appreciated. Thanks!

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Thanks, Amy. We have 3

different offices and everyone is doing something different!

Bach, RD, LD, HFS

Barix

Clinics of Ohio

3964

Hamilton Square Blvd.

Groveport,

OH 43125

(614)

834-6819

vitamins

What vitamins are

everyone suggesting to their patients? Do you

suggest the same for bands and bypass patients? Is it beneficial for

bands to take 2 MVI or only bypass? Any feedback would be much

appreciated. Thanks!

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We use Celebrate Vitamins. They meet the ASMBS recommendations and our patients love them. Very cost effective as well!

Lovisa, RD, CD

Bariatric Dietitian

Memorial Weight Loss & Bariatric Surgery Center

office: 574-647-2953

pager: 574-472-2644

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Just noticed this email. Our office uses Vita 4 Life and we have guidelines as the number taken daily depending on the surgery. Bands and VBG with Sleeve get 2, PRNY get 4, and DS get 12.

Vienna, VA

From: Lovisa <jlovisa@...>Subject: Re: vitamins Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 11:36 AM

We use Celebrate Vitamins. They meet the ASMBS recommendations and our patients love them. Very cost effective as well!

Lovisa, RD, CD

Bariatric Dietitian

Memorial Weight Loss & Bariatric Surgery Center

office: 574-647-2953

pager: 574-472-2644

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Yes, they are fine

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> Can these be taken together?

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> 1-Biotin

> 1-Capsule lithium (not the prescription drug)

> 1/8 Capsule Taurine

> 1/8 Capsule ACE (adrenal cortex extract)

> 1/16 Capsule Chromium Picolate

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thanks again jan.

On Feb 17, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Jan wrote:

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> > 1/8 Capsule ACE (adrenal cortex extract)

> > 1/16 Capsule Chromium Picolate

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> Bee,

> Sorry for the extra post, i forgot to ask a couple things in my

first one.

> I wanted to make sure I'm taking the right amount of magnesium.

> Mine does not have the true elements listed,

> so 2 tablets=400mg/200each.

+++Hi Kim. Ensure calcium and magnesium are the " citrate " form, and

also that you buy calcium and magnesium in separate tablets.

+++Yours contains an imbalance of cal to mag, so depending upon

the " kind " it is (citrate or another type), you need to buy magnesium

separate, so you can take equal amount of cal/mag.

> So should i be taking 6 tablets for 1200mg?

+++Yes, that is correct. But you also need more magnesium than is in

your supplement - iHerb has Natural Factors brand calcium and

magnesium citrate - write down my Rewards No., which is EWI284 so I

get credit.

> Also,I thought I read somewhere in the posts that cultured butter

was the best thing to use. I found organic cultured butter (not sure

if the cows are grass fed) and I can also get grass-fed not cultured.

> Which is best?

+++What is the source of the grass-fed butter, since it seems strange

it isn't organic?

Bee

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> > Also,I thought I read somewhere in the posts that cultured butter

> was the best thing to use. I found organic cultured butter (not sure

> if the cows are grass fed) and I can also get grass-fed not cultured.

> > Which is best?

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> +++What is the source of the grass-fed butter, since it seems strange

> it isn't organic?

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> Bee

>Both butters are organic, I'm just not sure if the cultured one is

from grass fed cows, it didn't say on the box.

thanks,

Kim

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> > > Also,I thought I read somewhere in the posts that cultured

butter

> > was the best thing to use. I found organic cultured butter (not

sure

> > if the cows are grass fed) and I can also get grass-fed not

cultured.

> > > Which is best?

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> > +++What is the source of the grass-fed butter, since it seems

strange

> > it isn't organic?

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> > Bee

> >Both butters are organic, I'm just not sure if the cultured one is

> from grass fed cows, it didn't say on the box.

+++Kim, organic grass-fed is going to be better.

Bee

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Yes, my son is on Vita-Spectrum. I switched him from brainchild to the

klaire's a few months ago and he's doing great. He drinks this with no

problem over the brainchild which was a huge plus for us since getting him

to drink the other was becoming quite the battle. And for about $20 a

month, I could not be happier!

They are actually coming out with a new flavor in 6 weeks or so - and

Christy from Klaire said it tastes better than the original and is really

quite good. So I don't know if you want to wait to try the new flavor, if

you're mixing it with something. If your kiddo takes capsules, then no need

to think about it.

Some reported that it was chalky, so I tested both the powder and capsule

forms - I mixed the doses with about 2 ounces of water and it dissolved with

no problem and I add our other supplements and some pear juice to top it

off. He drinks it with no problem.

Best place is probably directly from Klaire - call them to place the order,

they will ask who referred you - tell them Dr McCandless - it will also get

you 20% off all of your purchases there.

Hope this helps,

http://www.recoveringnicholas.com

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Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 2:13 PM

Subject: [ ] vitamins

Does anyone use Klaire Labs Vita Spectrum ? What do you think of it

and do you know the best place to order?

Thanks,

Kathy

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Doesn't disolve in juice, kinda chalky. We give our supplements in juice, so it

didn't work for us.

TJ

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Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2009 11:13:07 AM

Subject: [ ] vitamins

Does anyone use Klaire Labs Vita Spectrum ? What do you think of it

and do you know the best place to order?

Thanks,

Kathy

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> Hello

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> Just as a quick intro. My name is Terri and I have been reading here for about

1 month now. I have been following a sugar free, gluten free, casein free diet

for about 2 years now trying to help eliminate my seizures. I also have cut out

all caffeine as well as MSG, additives, food colorings etc. This has greatly

reduced my seizures but not totally eliminated them. The Dr. also put me on a

yeast free diet. All that to say that since I found Bee's site it has been a

simple matter of eliminating some brown rice and potatoes plus adding in some

coconut oil to be on the program. I have never been on any seizure medication

but have taken numerous supplements on and off and would like to get on board

with Bees recommendations.

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> So on to my question. What A, D and Omega 3's do you take? It's a bit

confusing and since I can't drive because of the seizures I would be glad to

order on line under your # if you will guide me to the exact ones you use. I'm

good on everything except the A, D and Omega 3's (I live in Texas so don't feel

like I need cod liver oil.

+++Hi Terri. Welcome to our group. This article explains how much sun exposure

you need, with 85% of your skin exposed during optimum times of the day, and the

amount of minutes required.

+++Also it explains that you take fish oil (not fish liver oil), which contains

only Omega 3, plus a separate vitamin A when you get enough sun exposure which

makes vitamin D on your skin:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/cod2.php

+++Once you decide whether you need to take cod liver oil or fish oil plus

vitamin A, this group can help you find the correct ones if you put your City

and State in the Subject line above.

>

> Thanks for your help! Your site has so much information on it and I'm still

working through some of it but enjoying what I read.

+++You are welcome for sure!

The best in health, Bee

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