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How about a little light sedation like valium?

>

> Ok, how do you deal with dental procedures?

>

> Last year I had my first " Crown " done. I was told it was not big deal

> at the beginning of the procedure. Well, maybe for someone with out

> RA it is not a big deal but about 1/2 way through the procedure I was

> in tears.

>

> How can a person with RA stay still for an almost 3 hours procedure?

> I can't even sleep in one position for a couple of hours (ask my

> husband).

>

> My last visit the Dentist told me I may need another crown if he can

> not fix another tooth. I just said " NO!, I can't do it " . I felt bad

> when I left the office but I just don't think I can deal with sitting

> in the chair again for that amount of time.

>

> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to manage to take care of my

> teeth with out the problems of sitting still? Has anyone else had to

> deal with this? How did you do it?

>

> I am desperate to find a way to cope.

>

> Thank you in advance.

>

> Skip

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If I may chime in.....I have a major fear of dentists due to some " bad " dentists

in the past that really, really hurt me. I finally found a wonderful one that

understood my fears and my pain. Vallium does calm your fears help but mine

gives me nitro gas and you could take my leg off and I would never know. It's

not something he likes to do for everyone, but he has RA too and after he heard

my horror stories, he was nothing but wonderful!! It does give you a headache

afterwards and after several visits of having the gas, I have found that I trust

him now and don't even need a vallium!

D :)

savannahhipchick <lfriedman5@...> wrote:

How about a little light sedation like valium?

>

> Ok, how do you deal with dental procedures?

>

> Last year I had my first " Crown " done. I was told it was not big deal

> at the beginning of the procedure. Well, maybe for someone with out

> RA it is not a big deal but about 1/2 way through the procedure I was

> in tears.

>

> How can a person with RA stay still for an almost 3 hours procedure?

> I can't even sleep in one position for a couple of hours (ask my

> husband).

>

> My last visit the Dentist told me I may need another crown if he can

> not fix another tooth. I just said " NO!, I can't do it " . I felt bad

> when I left the office but I just don't think I can deal with sitting

> in the chair again for that amount of time.

>

> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to manage to take care of my

> teeth with out the problems of sitting still? Has anyone else had to

> deal with this? How did you do it?

>

> I am desperate to find a way to cope.

>

> Thank you in advance.

>

> Skip

>

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If your only problem is the sitting still prearrange with the dentist a

" wiggle " or a " I need to get up " signal. You may have to wait a couple of

minutes until he gets to a good pausing point but if he has any understanding he

will work with you. linda

skiplw284 <skiplw284@...> wrote:

Ok, how do you deal with dental procedures?

Last year I had my first " Crown " done. I was told it was not big deal

at the beginning of the procedure. Well, maybe for someone with out

RA it is not a big deal but about 1/2 way through the procedure I was

in tears.

How can a person with RA stay still for an almost 3 hours procedure?

I can't even sleep in one position for a couple of hours (ask my

husband).

My last visit the Dentist told me I may need another crown if he can

not fix another tooth. I just said " NO!, I can't do it " . I felt bad

when I left the office but I just don't think I can deal with sitting

in the chair again for that amount of time.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to manage to take care of my

teeth with out the problems of sitting still? Has anyone else had to

deal with this? How did you do it?

I am desperate to find a way to cope.

Thank you in advance.

Skip

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I had such major problems with my teeth . My dental bills were approaching 20k

plus...!!!!!

I could not handle the pain nor the finances.

I went to Hungary where I paid 400 dollars for anesthesia for the entire

process. Every tooth was capped, bridges made for under 5k. The lab came to

the dentist office which was in a wellness hotel. Body massages were part of

the treatment. I went off season, the dentists daughter met my plane. I could

not be more pleased. The process was complete in 5 days with minimal pain.

If you would like more info please request....I went off season and my travel

costs were under 1 thousand., including air and hotel

savannahhipchick <lfriedman5@...> wrote:

How about a little light sedation like valium?

>

> Ok, how do you deal with dental procedures?

>

> Last year I had my first " Crown " done. I was told it was not big deal

> at the beginning of the procedure. Well, maybe for someone with out

> RA it is not a big deal but about 1/2 way through the procedure I was

> in tears.

>

> How can a person with RA stay still for an almost 3 hours procedure?

> I can't even sleep in one position for a couple of hours (ask my

> husband).

>

> My last visit the Dentist told me I may need another crown if he can

> not fix another tooth. I just said " NO!, I can't do it " . I felt bad

> when I left the office but I just don't think I can deal with sitting

> in the chair again for that amount of time.

>

> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to manage to take care of my

> teeth with out the problems of sitting still? Has anyone else had to

> deal with this? How did you do it?

>

> I am desperate to find a way to cope.

>

> Thank you in advance.

>

> Skip

>

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Hi Donna,

I premedicate with clindamycin 300mg 2 pills one hour prior to the

appointment which is what my surgeon recommended. I never premedicated

with my previous harrington rod but I do now. Maybe, you want to check

with your surgeons office? VC ( C)

>

> Does anyone take antibiotics prior to having any dental work? I'm

> going to a new dentist and he suggested this. I never took anything

> during my 30+ years with Harrington rods and can't imagine what I

have

> now is any different. Thought I'd get some opinions.

>

> Donna T.

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Hi Donna,

I take antibiotics prior to dental work that involves bleeding because

I have a heart murmur, not because of my Harrington Rods. It's 4

amoxicillin one hour before the work. My dentist did tell me to ask

the surgeon if it will be necessary because of the revision surgery.

The surgery is next Tuesday and I'm a nervous wreck. I listen to the

posters here, though, and they've become my heroes.

Caren

>

> Does anyone take antibiotics prior to having any dental work? I'm

> going to a new dentist and he suggested this. I never took anything

> during my 30+ years with Harrington rods and can't imagine what I

have

> now is any different. Thought I'd get some opinions.

>

> Donna T.

>

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Hi Donna,

Actually, I didn't premedicate for my first cleaning after

revision...I think I was about 8 weeks out. Then, ooops, I read about

others premedicating and I asked DrRand and realized that I should

have. He said it was advisable for the first post op year. I am

guessing that for some reason bacteria are more likely to settle on

the implants early on....but I honestly don't know. I don't do premeds

now.

I would put the question directly to you surgeon. Better safe than

sorry! Let us know what you find out.

Take Care, Cam

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After my original fusion in 1989, I was told that I needed to pre-

medicate for life before getting dental work done. After this surgery,

both the surgeon and my PCP both said that you likely don't need any

antibiotics, but they will prescribe them for the first two years post-

op just to be safe. After that, they (in theory, which we all know is

subject to change at any time!!!) are unnecessary to prescribe.

>

> Does anyone take antibiotics prior to having any dental work? I'm

> going to a new dentist and he suggested this. I never took anything

> during my 30+ years with Harrington rods and can't imagine what I

have

> now is any different. Thought I'd get some opinions.

>

> Donna T.

>

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I was never advised to premedicate after my two origional fusions in

1974. However, back in 1989, I was diagnosed with Mitral Valve

Prolapse. I was then advised to always premedicate before any dental

work, including a basic cleaning. I did so until last year when I

changed to a new dentist. The staff and the dentist both told me that

the ADA had changed their guidelines and it was no longer suggested

or advised in regards to MVP. So I went online and checked myself and

they were correct. So about 4 months after that, I also changed my

PCP. She gave me a complete workup and sent me to a cardiologist

because I was suffering from heart palpatations. Hhe sent me for EKG,

stress test and the infamous holter moniter - the whole sha-bang!

Well, wouldn't you know, the tests came back fine and the

cardiologist told me that I do NOT even have Mitral Valve Prolapse!

So I asked, " How can that be? I was told I did 28 years ago? " His

reply? " Twenty-eight years ago, EVERYONE seems to have been diagnosed

with MVP! " I also have now spoken with 5 other women who had this

same scenario play out recently! So, to think I took all that

antibiotic all of those times (including for a D & C, a C-sect and all

dental work!) unnecessarily!! Especially in our current times, when

the school of thought is to NOT take antibiotics unnecessarily! Ugh!

Sometimes, I'm not so sure the medical field knows what is the right

thing to do or not. But we are at their mercy, so to speak - so all

we can do is take their advice. Until it inevitably changes! ;)

> >

> > Does anyone take antibiotics prior to having any dental work?

I'm

> > going to a new dentist and he suggested this. I never took

anything

> > during my 30+ years with Harrington rods and can't imagine what I

> have

> > now is any different. Thought I'd get some opinions.

> >

> > Donna T.

> >

>

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, The exact same thing happened to me!!! I went to a cardiologist prior to my revision surgery and she told me I did NOT have MVP. Go figure! I spoke to Dr. LaGrone about premedicating prior to dental work. He told me I didn't have to for routine dental cleanings; only for bigger procedures (ie crowns, root canals etc...). Just FYI. Melinda

From: valerie_delaney <vadrjd82@...>Subject: [ ] Re: Dental Work Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 8:39 AM

I was never advised to premedicate after my two origional fusions in 1974. However, back in 1989, I was diagnosed with Mitral Valve Prolapse. I was then advised to always premedicate before any dental work, including a basic cleaning. I did so until last year when I changed to a new dentist. The staff and the dentist both told me that the ADA had changed their guidelines and it was no longer suggested or advised in regards to MVP. So I went online and checked myself and they were correct. So about 4 months after that, I also changed my PCP. She gave me a complete workup and sent me to a cardiologist because I was suffering from heart palpatations. Hhe sent me for EKG, stress test and the infamous holter moniter - the whole sha-bang! Well, wouldn't you know, the tests came back fine and the cardiologist told me that I do NOT even have Mitral Valve Prolapse! So I asked, "How can that be? I was told I

did 28 years ago?" His reply? "Twenty-eight years ago, EVERYONE seems to have been diagnosed with MVP!" I also have now spoken with 5 other women who had this same scenario play out recently! So, to think I took all that antibiotic all of those times (including for a D & C, a C-sect and all dental work!) unnecessarily! ! Especially in our current times, when the school of thought is to NOT take antibiotics unnecessarily! Ugh! Sometimes, I'm not so sure the medical field knows what is the right thing to do or not. But we are at their mercy, so to speak - so all we can do is take their advice. Until it inevitably changes! ;)> >> > Does anyone take antibiotics prior to having any dental work? I'm > > going to a new dentist and he suggested this. I never took anything > > during my 30+ years with Harrington rods and can't imagine what I > have > > now is any different. Thought I'd get some opinions.> > > > Donna T.>

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That's why they call it the PRACTICE of medicine....

Peggy

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I was never advised to premedicate after my two origional fusions in 1974. However, back in 1989, I was diagnosed with Mitral Valve Prolapse. I was then advised to always premedicate before any dental work, including a basic cleaning. I did so until last year when I changed to a new dentist. The staff and the dentist both told me that the ADA had changed their guidelines and it was no longer suggested or advised in regards to MVP. So I went online and checked myself and they were correct. So about 4 months after that, I also changed my PCP. She gave me a complete workup and sent me to a cardiologist because I was suffering from heart palpatations. Hhe sent me for EKG, stress test and the infamous holter moniter - the whole sha-bang! Well, wouldn't you know, the tests came back fine and the cardiologist told me that I do NOT even have Mitral Valve Prolapse! So I asked, "How can that be? I was told I did 28 years ago?" His reply? "Twenty-eight years ago, EVERYONE seems to have been diagnosed with MVP!" I also have now spoken with 5 other women who had this same scenario play out recently! So, to think I took all that antibiotic all of those times (including for a D & C, a C-sect and all dental work!) unnecessarily!! Especially in our current times, when the school of thought is to NOT take antibiotics unnecessarily! Ugh! Sometimes, I'm not so sure the medical field knows what is the right thing to do or not. But we are at their mercy, so to speak - so all we can do is take their advice. Until it inevitably changes! ;)> >> > Does anyone take antibiotics prior to having any dental work? I'm > > going to a new dentist and he suggested this. I never took anything > > during my 30+ years with Harrington rods and can't imagine what I > have > > now is any different. Thought I'd get some opinions.> > > > Donna T.> >>

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Touché!

> > >

> > > Does anyone take antibiotics prior to having any dental work?

> I'm

> > > going to a new dentist and he suggested this. I never took

> anything

> > > during my 30+ years with Harrington rods and can't imagine

what I

> > have

> > > now is any different. Thought I'd get some opinions.

> > >

> > > Donna T.

> > >

> >

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I'll jump in here on this one since I just asked Dr. Bridwell about this less

than 2 weeks

ago. I'm 41/2 months post revision, and I saw Dr. Bridwell for my check-up on

Aug. 18th.

I was having my teeth cleaned one week later. He said to take antibiotics until

at least the

7 month mark for cleaning, root canals, etc. He said we will talk about it

again at my next

check-up.

> > >

> > > Does anyone take antibiotics prior to having any dental work?

> I'm

> > > going to a new dentist and he suggested this. I never took

> anything

> > > during my 30+ years with Harrington rods and can't imagine what I

> > have

> > > now is any different. Thought I'd get some opinions.

> > >

> > > Donna T.

> > >

> >

>

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Janet

I have had exstensive dental work done recently and had no problems with Novacaine--worked fine. And I am with you on the lack of love of needles!!

[low dose naltrexone] Dental Work

Hi All, Please excuse me if this has come up, but reading the posts about cataracts and local anesthesia, I'm wondering if anyone here has had dental work done and needed novacaine (sp) while using LDN?? I'm having some cavities fixed next week and need a shot or two . I HATE needles. Any info would be greatly appreciated !!JanetRRMS 1994LDN May '07

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SUGARBLOO - so long as the pain pills are NOT opiods, i think they're acceptable with LDN!! there is a list of meds that should not be taken with LDN!! if you request it, i'm sure someone on this forum will send it to you!!

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I understand that local novacaine is ok but what about pain pills after dental work? marshiris@... wrote: HI JANET - have had some extensive dental work done, myself - NO PROBLEMS AT ALL!! needles & all!! didn't stop the LDN CREAM, during that time. marshiris@... Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles

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I agree with marshiris, have done the same, no problems having dental work done.

Ingrid

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Dental Work

I understand that local novacaine is ok but what about pain pills after dental work? marshiris@... wrote:

HI JANET - have had some extensive dental work done, myself - NO PROBLEMS AT ALL!! needles & all!! didn't stop the LDN CREAM, during that time.

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I have to take 4 amoxicillian pills 2 hours before any dental work (cleaning ,

other)  forever, your surgeon will get you a script for it.

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From: Peg Nichols <emilye@...>

Joint Replacement

Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 10:04:02 PM

Subject: Dental work

I'm trying to remember what I need to do before having dental work done. I

remember reading the instructions that when I had dental work done, I should

inform the dentist in advance, and should take some medication. Don't remember

exact details.

An acquaintance who had a TKR about 18 months ago went to her dentist, who told

her that she could provide no dental care, not even a cleaning, unless my friend

had taken the medication.

Has anyone had the experience of taking the medication? Is it available

over-the-counter or by prescription?

I'm two years post-surgery, doing fairly well, but can postpone the dentist no

longer.

Peg N.

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My dentist prescribes it - just tell them when you make the appointment and

they will call in a script to your pharmacy.

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From: " Carol " <cmdavis2002@...>

Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 5:59 AM

<Joint Replacement >

Subject: Re: Dental work

> I have to take 4 amoxicillian pills 2 hours before any dental work

> (cleaning , other) forever, your surgeon will get you a script for it.

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Peg Nichols <emilye@...>

> Joint Replacement

> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 10:04:02 PM

> Subject: Dental work

>

>

>

>

>

> I'm trying to remember what I need to do before having dental work done. I

> remember reading the instructions that when I had dental work done, I

> should inform the dentist in advance, and should take some medication.

> Don't remember exact details.

>

> An acquaintance who had a TKR about 18 months ago went to her dentist, who

> told her that she could provide no dental care, not even a cleaning,

> unless my friend had taken the medication.

>

> Has anyone had the experience of taking the medication? Is it available

> over-the-counter or by prescription?

>

> I'm two years post-surgery, doing fairly well, but can postpone the

> dentist no longer.

>

> Peg N.

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Peg,

Good to hear you are doing well after two years. Yeah!

I had a dental emergency RIGHT AFTER my surgery. My surgeon prescribed

Omoxycillin. Dentist said (and this makes sense to me) that she couldn¹t

prescribe because she didn¹t have the info the surgeon had. I take 4 pills

an hour before dental work. That¹s all. It¹s not a big deal.

This is to head off infections, which could go to the knee. So it is

important to take find out if you still need it.

I would call the surgeons¹ office to find out.

Best,

Jackie

On 6/20/09 7:04 PM, " Peg Nichols " <emilye@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> I'm trying to remember what I need to do before having dental work done. I

> remember reading the instructions that when I had dental work done, I should

> inform the dentist in advance, and should take some medication. Don't remember

> exact details.

>

> An acquaintance who had a TKR about 18 months ago went to her dentist, who

> told her that she could provide no dental care, not even a cleaning, unless my

> friend had taken the medication.

>

> Has anyone had the experience of taking the medication? Is it available

> over-the-counter or by prescription?

>

> I'm two years post-surgery, doing fairly well, but can postpone the dentist no

> longer.

>

> Peg N.

>

>

>

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it is an antibiotic the dentist perscribed it on my 1st visit to him i had to

take it 1 hour before having my tooth taken out. anytime you have any dental

work done you need to take the pre-meds. i wont have my surgery until tuesday

but my dentist didnt want to take any chances that any infection would be there

because of my tooth and that was 2 weeks ago.

>

> I'm trying to remember what I need to do before having dental work done. I

remember reading the instructions that when I had dental work done, I should

inform the dentist in advance, and should take some medication. Don't remember

exact details.

>

> An acquaintance who had a TKR about 18 months ago went to her dentist, who

told her that she could provide no dental care, not even a cleaning, unless my

friend had taken the medication.

>

> Has anyone had the experience of taking the medication? Is it available

over-the-counter or by prescription?

>

> I'm two years post-surgery, doing fairly well, but can postpone the dentist no

longer.

>

> Peg N.

>

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Being a dental assistant for 25+ yrs yes if you have had any kind of joint

replacement or heart problems you need to have a pre-med before any dental

work.  I myself have full metal joint replacements of the R and L TMJ (joints of

the jaw) areas.   My pre-med is taken day before appt, day of appt and day after

appt.

 

Always call your MD and DDS to make sure you need any kind of pre-meds.  In the

office I worked any kind of RCT (root canal work) we had the patient on

antibiotics for 3-7 days as well and any oral surgery too (which I loved doing

oral surgery).  If you have cancer and undergoing any kind of cemo or radiation

check with your DR and DDS.  In the office I worked in we would not work on

anyone under treatment for cancer (when my husband was under treatment for his

cancer, he did pass away from it, his dentist would not touch him),

 

I hope this does help you in anyway, I hope your joint replacements are helping

you.  My joint replacements in my jaw were the worst thing I could have done.  I

did get a letter from the FDA about 3 yrs ago, they are investagating the oral

surgeon that did my surgery.  He did not disclose all the information to me or

his other pts either.  I am at this time in a suit againts him and 12 others

have followed me.  My surgery cost me over $125,000.  That does not include the

hosptial stay of 4 days and 5 days of heavy radiation (to kill off any bone

cells that tried to form on the joint) and the cost of the trip out west and

back and the stay at the hotel for 2 wks.  I guess it cost about

$175,000-200,000 in total.  I just remembered we took a trip out west twice

before the surgery to meet the DR and to have the x-rays and test ran and to

have a 3D of my skull made.  My joints are custom made just to fit me and me

only.  I had around14 surgeries

before having joint replacements done   Has anyone in this site had any tmj

surgery done?  If so I would love to talk to you more.  Must run I have to

get this colts quilt done.

 

EK  

 

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Subject: Re: Dental work

Joint Replacement

Date: Sunday, June 21, 2009, 2:22 PM

it is an antibiotic the dentist perscribed it on my 1st visit to him i had to

take it 1 hour before having my tooth taken out. anytime you have any dental

work done you need to take the pre-meds. i wont have my surgery until tuesday

but my dentist didnt want to take any chances that any infection would be there

because of my tooth and that was 2 weeks ago.

>

> I'm trying to remember what I need to do before having dental work done. I

remember reading the instructions that when I had dental work done, I should

inform the dentist in advance, and should take some medication. Don't remember

exact details.

>

> An acquaintance who had a TKR about 18 months ago went to her dentist, who

told her that she could provide no dental care, not even a cleaning, unless my

friend had taken the medication.

>

> Has anyone had the experience of taking the medication? Is it available

over-the-counter or by prescription?

>

> I'm two years post-surgery, doing fairly well, but can postpone the dentist no

longer.

>

> Peg N.

>

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After my THR four years ago, I was told that the ADA no longer recommends

pre-medication for routine dental work. Has anyone else heard this? I have never

premedicated for my metal hip.

Re: Dental work

Joint Replacement

Date: Sunday, June 21, 2009, 2:22 PM

it is an antibiotic the dentist perscribed it on my 1st visit to him i had to

take it 1 hour before having my tooth taken out. anytime you have any dental

work done you need to take the pre-meds. i wont have my surgery until tuesday

but my dentist didnt want to take any chances that any infection would be there

because of my tooth and that was 2 weeks ago.

>

> I'm trying to remember what I need to do before having dental work done. I

remember reading the instructions that when I had dental work done, I should

inform the dentist in advance, and should take some medication. Don't remember

exact details.

>

> An acquaintance who had a TKR about 18 months ago went to her dentist, who

told her that she could provide no dental care, not even a cleaning, unless my

friend had taken the medication.

>

> Has anyone had the experience of taking the medication? Is it available

over-the-counter or by prescription?

>

> I'm two years post-surgery, doing fairly well, but can postpone the dentist no

longer.

>

> Peg N.

>

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