Dental work

January 15, 2006

--- fgourd <fgourd@...> wrote:

> Hi,

>

> The short of it is that it's not a good idea to get

> root

> canals/crowns.

Thanks Fran for the info. So I already had a crown

put on (porcelian) on the top half of the broken tooth

18 years ago. The tooth died and there is a low grade

infection in the root. So now what do I do?

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

January 15, 2006

Hi Debby,

I understand your hesitation at having a tooth removed, and wanting

to know and do what is best for your health. I went through the same

thing when I decided to have teeth removed instead of having root

canals. I am lucky to have a wonderful, excellent environmental MD

who explained to me why root canals/crowns were not a good thing (as

per my previous posting). I accepted to have these teeth removed

after much stress and anxiety. But in the final analysis, that's

what made sense, in view of the information my MD provided and of the

so many testimonies out there, a's being one of them and

illustrating very well why not have root canals/crowns.

As well, the other on-line group I participate in (multiple chemical

sensitivities (MCS) support group) had many postings of members

reporting not feeling well at all, and after getting an offending

tooth and/or a root canal removed, feeling much better.

If I were you, I would definitely have the tooth removed. But I also

understand that in the end, you decide with the information

provided. For my part, this health problem I had led me to do

a fair amount of research over the last few years, on the link

between the environment, foods, bucal/dental health, etc., and my

overall health; so I have had the time to process the information.

As well, a wonderful lady who also had MCS gave me a vital advice,

which I use a lot. She said to me: " You have to be like a detective;

whenever you have an allergic reaction, you have too find the source

and remove it or remove yourself from it. " I use that advice for

that purpose, but also to check how I feel about things inside, and

check what pushes me to do or not do things. For example, in the

issue of root canals, of course I did not want to loose teeth, but I

did an inward check to find the pros and cons, and finally, felt it

was the right decision (after much anxiety, as I said... :- ). I

find that writing down the pros and cons in two columns on a sheet

of paper has greatly helped me at times. Ultimately, I ask myself:

What do I really feel about this? Does this feel right? And I wait

until I feel the answer before going ahead (can be quick or take a

few days or sometimes, weeks). Of course, often I don't do that

(much to my shame... :- ) , but I try... :- )

Anyways, I know it's a long answer, but all done in wanting to help.

Take good care,

Fran

January 16, 2006

Hi,

So if I get the tooth removed will I have a big gap in

the front of my teeth?

Luv,

Debby

San , cA

--- fgourd <fgourd@...> wrote:

> Hi Debby,

>

> I understand your hesitation at having a tooth

> removed, and wanting

> to know and do what is best for your health. I went

> through the same

> thing when I decided to have teeth removed instead

> of having root

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

January 17, 2006

Hey Debby,

Well, getting an implant as you mentioned in another post would

certainly address that problem. If you can afford it, I would really

try to get it done in non-toxic, biocompatible material by a holistic

dentist. The regular stuff is soooo toxic. To find a holistic dentist

in your area, you could do a search on-line at large, using various

key words ( " holistic dentists " , " alternative dentists " + the name of

your State or area, etc.). You could also phone health food stores

and NDs offices and ask them, as well as checking in local

health/alternative newspapers and magazines, and in the phone book

(who knows...).

Take good care,

Fran

>

> > Hi Debby,

> >

> > I understand your hesitation at having a tooth

> > removed, and wanting

> > to know and do what is best for your health. I went

> > through the same

> > thing when I decided to have teeth removed instead

> > of having root

>

> Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

> http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

>

January 18, 2006

Thanks Fran.. although I'm kind of limited as to what

my dental insurance covers. My dentist now is trying

to convince me to do the root canal and he says he

uses a plastic filling so that it shouldn't be toxic.

I sure hope so.

I chickened out on the root canal tonight and instead

got half my mouth deep cleaned - have to go in two

weeks to get the other side. OMG, they numbed my face

up good, felt like my face was asleep.

He said it would wear off in 1.5 hours but it's now

four hours later and I still feel a bit of a tingle.

That numbing agent is yucky!

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- fgourd <fgourd@...> wrote:

> Hey Debby,

> Well, getting an implant as you mentioned in another

> post would

> certainly address that problem. If you can afford

> it, I would really

> try to get it done in non-toxic, biocompatible

> material by a holistic

> dentist. The regular stuff is soooo toxic. To find a

> holistic dentist

> in your area, you could do a search on-line at

> large, using various

> key words ( " holistic dentists " , " alternative

> dentists " + the name of

> your State or area, etc.). You could also phone

> health food stores

> and NDs offices and ask them, as well as checking in

> local

> health/alternative newspapers and magazines, and in

> the phone book

> (who knows...).

> Take good care,

> Fran

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

January 19, 2006

Hi Debby,

Plastic is toxic by nature.

Fran :- )

>

> Thanks Fran.. although I'm kind of limited as to what

> my dental insurance covers. My dentist now is trying

> to convince me to do the root canal and he says he

> uses a plastic filling so that it shouldn't be toxic.

> I sure hope so.

January 19, 2006

I'm really lost, because I was told by someone else

the plastic they use is safe.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- fgourd <fgourd@...> wrote:

> Hi Debby,

> Plastic is toxic by nature.

> Fran :- )

>

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

January 19, 2006

Hot plastic is toxic with continuous use like in cooking/microwaving. But the

plastic in a filling should be safe.

Ora

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:31:14 -0800 (PST), Debby Padilla-Hudson

<debbypadilla@...> wrote:

>I'm really lost, because I was told by someone else

>the plastic they use is safe.

>

>Luv,

>Debby

>San , CA

January 19, 2006

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Debby Padilla-Hudson wrote:

> I'm really lost, because I was told by someone else

> the plastic they use is safe.

>

> Luv,

> Debby

> San , CA

>

I store all foodstuffs in either glass or stainless steel containers. I

still use plastic for photo chemicals and other chemicals that are not

plastic solvents. But they are not in contact with foods.

Zack

January 20, 2006

I am considering a brige made of plastic over gold as gold and I dont

get along.

Any coment on this

January 21, 2006

wrote: " I am considering a brige made of plastic over gold as

gold and I dont get along. Any coment on this "

Hi ,

Dental plastic is toxic (pls refer to previous postings on the

subject). The so-called " gold " they put in your mouth is also toxic;

it really is an amalgam of a bunch of metals (some of which are

highly toxic). (For e.g.: I have an old " gold " crown that has to go,

doctor's orders.) Even in people who are in good health, these

materials are not a good idea; more so with people with health

concerns. Plastic and metal in your mouth will continuously off gass

small amounts of toxins and metal vapours in your body,causing

various health problems (seemingly unrelated to the mouth); most of

the time, the link is not made between the two (especially by

mainstream MDs). People can go their entire life seemingly ok.

Others, like myself, end up having an immune system break down and

have to stop to eliminate the causes. Others develop mild to severe

problems.

Of course, a fairly healthy person can always choose the gold or

plastic and see what happens. I personnaly have no choice because I

react so much to these offending compounds... it's either tooth out

or non-toxic dental material.

Hope this help.

Fran :- )

March 2, 2006

I don't know how long you have to wait after surgery, but I asked my dentist how they do the antibiotic for THR people. They said you take 4 antibiotic pills one hour before going to the dentist for any dental work--even a cleaning. The dentist or the surgeon can prescribe them. I was surprised to learn that you don't have to take them for several days.

Does this information agree with what you 'others' (more experienced) know about it?

Shirley

March 2, 2006

On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, cshos wrote:

> I don't know how long you have to wait after surgery, but I asked my dentist

how they do the antibiotic for THR people.

> They said you take 4 antibiotic pills one hour before going to the

> dentist for any dental work--even a cleaning. The dentist or the surgeon

> can prescribe them. I was surprised to learn that you don't have to

> take them for several days.

I'm almost 3 years PO, and that's what I do every time I go. (I've gone a

lot unfortunately)

From what my dentist said if you do not, and there is a problem, it could

become very serious. Not worth the risk of not pre-medicating.

Two visits ago - I totally forgot. I hadn't gone to her in a couple

months, and I just wasn't thinking about it. She's like 45 min from where

I live.. and I took the wrong road so I was mega late... I pull into the

parking lot and it hit me that I forgot to take my pills. I was like...

I'm already late and I took the afternoon off... I was THIS close to not

saying anything. But I went it and talked to the office manager, and I

told her so we had to reschedule.

It's just not worth the risk not to take them.

STEve

March 3, 2006

Hi Shirley

I have read the same thing for the hip resurfacing people. I think some say they took a dose before the dental work and 1 dose after. I imagine even your family doctor could fill you in on it. Mine told me he will watch me carefully after my hip replacment. It is something that I understand needs to be done as long as you have a hip replacement. There is always a lot of discussion about making sure you don't let any infections get going in your body. For some reason infections like to travel to the hip becasue of the metal in them. Anyways that what I understand in laymans terms.

Pat in Ohio

soon 3/15/06 LBHR De SMet

March 5, 2006

They said you take 4 antibiotic pills one hour before going to the dentist for any dental work--even a cleaning. The dentist or the surgeon can prescribe them. Does this information agree with what you 'others' (more experienced) know about it? >>> Not for me~ I only have to take one 500 mg. of KayFlex (? spelling) before the procedure and one after. That was ordered by my ortho specialist but my dentist is the one that actually issues the prescription to obtain it. I think this issue is like any other with doctors.... they do what they feel is the best for that patients needs but all will differ in terms of choice on the matter. I think the most important thing is knowing you have to have something and asking your specialist not your dentist what's best. This is a good site with what the AAOS~ American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons advises....

AAOS On-Line Service Antibiotic Prophylaxis for Dental Patients with Total Joint Replacements

http://www.aaos.org/wordhtml/papers/advistmt/1014.htm

March 5, 2006

I think I can go awhile before going to the dentist but eventually I will have to go. I am not fond of the dentist but it is a necessary evil... right? >>> My dentist actually changed my maintenance schedule from yearly check ups & cleaning to bi~annual after my THR. She does it for all her patients who have any type of implant... pace makers, stints etc. included... she believes in "preventive care". And don't even charge me for the second visit... which is amazing to me. I figured she was merely adding to the bill because I had an issue that meant she could but that wasn't the case at all. I used to say "let me get the kids taken care of and if I can afford it then I'll be in to get my stuff done". She point blank told me that's NO longer an option! My teeth being taken care of THE RIGHT WAY now means my legs life too.... which was about an hour long conversation on WHY... and ended it with saying whether it was her I dealt with or someone else.... I needed checked twice a year regardless. Because I don't have dential insurance she writes off alot of the cost and even lets me make payments on my bill if I need to. My last visit I had oral exam, cleaning with silent , 2 x~rays and a filling repaired (*3 times because it didn't want to stay in place). My actual bill was like $419.00 for services rendered of which she only charged me $78.00 even then she told me if for some reason I couldn't afford that to call her personally and she would take care of it. She's a RARE FIND to say the VERY LEAST!

I hate dentists too Contessa... but my point in telling you that period is.... don't let your dental care be "eventually". Make certain it's something you keep as a regularly scheduled thing in your life. I never knew how important it was... but I doubt seriously that my dentist would take such a loss at seeing after my teeth if it wasn't a "big issue". Just be safe & take care of yourself~ goes to the old saying "better safe then sorry".

March 5, 2006

Dear Steve,

Thanks for the input. I knew it was important to take the antibiotic, I didn't know it was a permanent deal but like you said not worth the not taking them. I think I can go awhile before going to the dentist but eventually I will have to go. I am not fond of the dentist but it is a necessary evil... right?

Again thanks for the information and advice.

Contessa

-- Re: Dental Work

On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, cshos wrote:

> I don't know how long you have to wait after surgery, but I asked my dentist how they do the antibiotic for THR people.