Die Off

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi all,

==>Hi there. Welcome to our group. What is your name please?

>

> I have been suffering from candida for about 8 years trying various

> candida diets with little success but this year I am determined to

get rid of it properly. I was prescribed strong anti-fungals a few

weeks ago and am following the diet however soon after taking the

tablets I noticed hemhorroids which got worse and had terrible heart

> palpitations, am I doing too much too soon? Should I cut back on the

anti-fungals? I have read liver congestion can cause hemhorroids I

thought maybe the candida die off is causing all these horrible side

effects?

==>The only way to get rid of candida is:

1) by building up your immune system with nutrients (diet plus

supplements),

2) by eliminating foods and drinks that feed candida (mainly sugars and

high carbs), and

3) by eliminating toxins.

Candida cannot be cured by " killing it off " - it doesn't work that way,

so taking antifungals too soon will cause more die-off symptoms and

reactions that can be avoided by doing the candida program one step at

a time:

Step 1: Diet plus supplements, including coconut oil, which is

antifungal and a very beneficial nutrient-rich fat - when you are able

to gradually increase it to 5-6 tbls per day without getting severe die-

off symptoms you go to Step 2.

Step 2: Add one of the antifungals listed. When your die-off symptoms

are lessened on this step you can add Step 3 to your program.

Step 3: Take probiotics.

When your immune system is strong it will " make " candida change back

into the nice friendly organism it is supposed to be in the body.

After that the immune system must be maintained at normal so candida

will not change again into an overgrowing monster.

Please familiarize yourself with my articles on candida which are found

in our Group's Files (left menu) in the 2nd Folder, along with the

article " How To Get Started. " Also see the many Folders in our Files

with Candida Diet Lists, Shopping Lists, Recipes, etc. - there are over

700 articles.

You can't go wrong giving your body the nutrients it needs so it can

heal itself naturally.

The best in health, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

Hi KerryAnn,

I have heard that epsom salt baths can help.

Marla

On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 5:41 PM, KerryAnn at CookingTF.com <kerryann@...> wrote:

I started another round of heavy probiotic supplementation Friday night andnow I'm having die-off symptoms. In the past I just suffered through, but

this time I'd rather not. What can I do to help ease the die-off? It's notsevere enough to warrant backing off of the dosage, but it's just enough tomake me feel bad. I'm taking one Ultimate Flora and one S. Boulardii every

night, on an empty stomach, right before bed.KerryAnn www.TFrecipes.com/forum/- Traditional Foods Menu Mailer, recipes and cookinghelps, home-style TF meals your kids will LOVE

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[Guest guest]

A couple things that I've heard can help are taking clay or activated

charcoal.

Jane

On Sun, 20 Apr 2008, KerryAnn at CookingTF.com wrote:

> I started another round of heavy probiotic supplementation Friday night and

> now I'm having die-off symptoms. In the past I just suffered through, but

> this time I'd rather not. What can I do to help ease the die-off? It's not

> severe enough to warrant backing off of the dosage, but it's just enough to

> make me feel bad. I'm taking one Ultimate Flora and one S. Boulardii every

> night, on an empty stomach, right before bed.

>

> KerryAnn

> www.TFrecipes.com/forum/- Traditional Foods Menu Mailer, recipes and cooking

> helps, home-style TF meals your kids will LOVE

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

KerryAnn,

My daughter has had some serious die-off and has been more reactive to foods then she ever had before, so I asked Dr. Natasha what we could do to help her. This was her response.

Alyssa is going through a die-off stage, hence all these symptoms. She just has to go through it. To control die-off increase the dose of Bio-kult slowly, give her baths every night with sea salt, epsom salt and cider vinegar alternatively (1/2 cup per bath), let her drink plenty of water. Re-introduce foods gradually as well. It is a temporary stage and will not last.

The baths: one night with Epsom salt, next night with sea salt, next with cider vinegar - not all together.

Foods that she reacts to: do a sensitivity test (see attachment), then if there is no reaction start from 1 teaspoon a day for a few days, then 2 teaspoons for a few days and so on. Be guided by her reaction to the food, if when you increase the amount, she reacts, then reduce again and wait for a week or two, then try to increase again.

(her attachment below)

With food allergies and intolerances, if you are not sure about any particular food, before introducing it do a sensitivity test. Take a drop of the food (if the food is solid, mash and mix with a bit of water) and place it on the inside of the wrist of the child. Do it at nighttime before bed. Let the drop dry on the skin, then let your child go to sleep. In the morning check the spot: if there is an angry red reaction, then avoid that food for a few weeks, and then try again. If there is no reaction, then go ahead and introduce it starting from 1 teaspoon. After the first teaspoon, wait for 2-3 days, if there are no reactions, which you can definitely assign to that food, then introduce more. Gradually increase the amount.

Kerry Ann, I hope this helps.

Best wishes,

[ ] Die Off

I started another round of heavy probiotic supplementation Friday night andnow I'm having die-off symptoms. In the past I just suffered through, butthis time I'd rather not. What can I do to help ease the die-off? It's notsevere enough to warrant backing off of the dosage, but it's just enough tomake me feel bad. I'm taking one Ultimate Flora and one S. Boulardii everynight, on an empty stomach, right before bed.KerryAnn www.TFrecipes.com/forum/- Traditional Foods Menu Mailer, recipes and cookinghelps, home-style TF meals your kids will LOVE

[Guest guest]

> Alyssa is going through a die-off stage, hence all these

symptoms. She just has to go through it. To control die-off increase

the dose of Bio-kult slowly, give her baths every night with sea salt,

epsom salt and cider vinegar alternatively (1/2 cup per bath), let her

drink plenty of water. Re-introduce foods gradually as well. It is a

temporary stage and will not last.

This is comforting to know. My son reacts to a lot of vegetables, a

lot of which are associated with detoxification, like garlic, onion,

ginger, apples, and celery. He also reacts to coconut, which is

incredibly disappointing. I'll have to try out that test with some of

these and see what the verdict is.

Alison

[Guest guest]

,

Thanks for sharing the Dr. N tips, much appreciated!

Millie

[Guest guest]

KerryAnne,

You probably know already, but Activated Charcoal has helped my son

through die off. I think that Amy Yasko (works with autistic kids)

even has a charcoal flush that she recommends just using Mg and

activ. charcoal to try and bind up toxins that are trying to exit the

body and move the bowels for the same reason.

Millie

[Guest guest]

Hi Vida,

I have compared chelation against usage of Kinotakara footpads and I can say first of all that the SCIO tested the Kinotakara very favourably.

The Kinotakara (Japanese for Treasure of the Tree) footpads can and will extract any toxins from the body that is tiny enough to be held in the lymphatic fluid and exit thru the pores of the skin.

I was amazed at the overnight effect of extracting the bulk of the Mercury in a friend's body. Overnight, all her pains and agonies disappeared but of course she needed to keep on using for a few more weeks to clear the rest of the toxins off.

Kinotakara is the original product and since then there are hundreds of copy cat footpads on the market. The price difference is huge. Of course the copycats are a few times cheaper. Best thing to do is to experiment with copy cat footpads with high content of Tourmaline which is a semi precious stone which emits Far Infra Red energies and Negative Ions indefinitely, even when the footpads have been used and soiled. Most copycat footpads do not have Tourmaline or do not have enough Tourmaline. Let the SCIO tell you which is better.

I only use Kinotakara because 26 years of medical research has gone into it and I found it to be better than the copycats. Btw, all the copycat brands also claim the 26 years research for their own products.

God bless.

Francis Yuen

2008/6/7 <Vidaboyd@...>:

Hello Dear PeopleStill dealing with parasites (evidently multiple) and suffocating die-off symptoms. Does anyone have suggestion for external removal of toxins (reaction severe at internal measures, so I have to limit them - am doing probiotics).

Thank you Vida

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[Guest guest]

>

> I'm having very severe die off for the last two weeks. I cut out all

carbohydrates and sugars and fruit. I started supplements and then probiotics.

Raw garlic three times a day, pau d'arco and introduced coconut oil. I really

feel much worse than before I began. Have severe vaginal thrush and in my

nipples but most of all I'm completely depleted of energy. I've been on the diet

three weeks and had hoped I'd be starting to improve. I'm also gaining weight

and have dreadful fluid retention. I would be so grateful of any help or even if

you can confirm that this is normal. I have found your website so helpful as

there is litle or no support in Ireland. Happy Christmas.

>

Hello !Merry Christmas to you too. What is your name??

The reason why you are feeling so bad is because you are not doing things the

way you were supposed to!! It took me months to introduce a second antifungal

and you did that in just 3 weeks?? no!!!!

First you start with small doses of coconut oil and then you gradually increase

it, meaning you start with 1 tsp and then when you see that you are ok with

that, you make that 2 tsp etc.

Bee has changed her program so you must NOT take a second antifungal.Garlic and

pau d'arco both are antifungals so STOP THEM!!!Even when there were 2

antifungals on her program, we were supposed to start them months after

following the diet, not in 3 weeks. First we should be able to consume 6 tbs of

coconut oil without severe die off and then slowly and gradually introduce a

second antifungal.

you will harm your self if you keep doing that. pls trust Bee, more is no

better. Die off is not supposed to last too long or to send you to hospital. You

are not going to get rid of candida by killing it off. YOu are overloading your

body, and you are not making any progress.

so to sum up, just take coconut oil and start it slowly. small doses and

gradually increase them. stop garlic and pau d' arco. hope you are taking the

right supplements.

Marisa

[Guest guest]

Hi there!

Welcome to Bee's group! Can you give us a name so we know who we are talking

to?

My goodness! I'm sorry to hear that you are suffering so much. I think, as

Marisa said, that you started the diet a bit too quickly which is causing you

suffer more than is necessary. Bee's program is extremely powerful, so you need

to go easy with it. Don't try to do too much as 'more is not better'.

For many people it takes some time for them just to cut out all of the no-no

foods along with the addition of a teaspoon or so of coconut oil. By doing so

much this quickly you are causing yourself more die-off and it is possible that

you are overwhelming your body.

I suggest you take a few steps back. For now, you should stop taking the garlic

and probiotics. How much coconut oil are you taking? I would suggest cutting

back on that as well until you are feeling better.

I would also suggest that you reread these articles as they will help to make

things more clear for you. Many people print them off so that they can reread

these articles on a regular basis:

How to Successfully Overcome Candida

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

Curing Candida, How to Get Started

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

For encouragement and inspiration see these wonderful Success Stories by members

of this group: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php

Take care,

(Moderator)

>

> I'm having very severe die off for the last two weeks. I cut out all

carbohydrates and sugars and fruit. I started supplements and then probiotics.

Raw garlic three times a day, pau d'arco and introduced coconut oil. I really

feel much worse than before I began. Have severe vaginal thrush and in my

nipples but most of all I'm completely depleted of energy. I've been on the diet

three weeks and had hoped I'd be starting to improve. I'm also gaining weight

and have dreadful fluid retention. I would be so grateful of any help or even if

you can confirm that this is normal. I have found your website so helpful as

there is litle or no support in Ireland. Happy Christmas.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much for that.My name is Gráinne

From: mameedle <oxhahxo@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Die off

Date: Saturday, 26 December, 2009, 10:59

 

Hi there!

Welcome to Bee's group! Can you give us a name so we know who we are talking to?

My goodness! I'm sorry to hear that you are suffering so much. I think, as

Marisa said, that you started the diet a bit too quickly which is causing you

suffer more than is necessary. Bee's program is extremely powerful, so you need

to go easy with it. Don't try to do too much as 'more is not better'.

For many people it takes some time for them just to cut out all of the no-no

foods along with the addition of a teaspoon or so of coconut oil. By doing so

much this quickly you are causing yourself more die-off and it is possible that

you are overwhelming your body.

I suggest you take a few steps back. For now, you should stop taking the garlic

and probiotics. How much coconut oil are you taking? I would suggest cutting

back on that as well until you are feeling better.

I would also suggest that you reread these articles as they will help to make

things more clear for you. Many people print them off so that they can reread

these articles on a regular basis:

How to Successfully Overcome Candida

http://www.healingn aturallybybee. com/articles/ intro2.php

Curing Candida, How to Get Started

http://www.healingn aturallybybee. com/articles/ intro1.php

For encouragement and inspiration see these wonderful Success Stories by members

of this group: http://www.healingn aturallybybee. com/success/ index.php

Take care,

(Moderator)

>

> I'm having very severe die off for the last two weeks. I cut out all

carbohydrates and sugars and fruit. I started supplements and then probiotics.

Raw garlic three times a day, pau d'arco and introduced coconut oil. I really

feel much worse than before I began. Have severe vaginal thrush and in my

nipples but most of all I'm completely depleted of energy. I've been on the diet

three weeks and had hoped I'd be starting to improve. I'm also gaining weight

and have dreadful fluid retention. I would be so grateful of any help or even if

you can confirm that this is normal. I have found your website so helpful as

there is litle or no support in Ireland. Happy Christmas..

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Gráinne,

Nice to meet you! I hope you're feeling better today.

>

> Thanks so much for that.My name is Gráinne

>

[Guest guest]

skane,

i'm new here, too.

if there's anything that i heard in your suffering, it's that i just want " this

stuff " away from me, and i want it as far away and as fast as i can rid myself

of it.

apparently, no one told this yeast crap that while it's in the process of

" dying-off " that it wasn't supposed to take us with it.  i've barely been able

to move or eat for days now.

what i find probably most unbelievable is that these " anti-fungals " are

ALL-NATURAL, and that taken even in such small amounts can have such an enormous

and reverberating effect.

i've had problems with fatigue and brainfog for years, and it's still way

outside my field of thought and vision to discover that it could truly be this

simple to explain.  man, i've never had cancer, but this sure as hell feels like

what a " radiation treatment " might be like.  it's the most excruciating

experience of my life, and i've suffered some, i can assure you.

 

i'll tell ya, shane, i'm not in much of a mood to moderate anything in terms of

eradicating this crap.  but if it means that i can at least function again even

somewhat, i guess that i'd better hand this one over to someone who's been

there.

 

anyway, good luck coping with what's already been done.  bits and pieces of info

keep filtering in, and i'm hopeful that things will start to make some sense.  i

believe in this coconut oil thing, and shane, i swear that i was ready to run

out for some raw garlic for " good measure " .  so, already, you've taught me

something thru these people.  i doubt that i'd have much enjoyed the holidays

anyway the way that things had been going.  now, i just eat alittle, and then

laydown alittle.  it's an incredibly fulfilling life, but somebody has to do

it.  thanks for your post.

 

russ

I'm having very severe die off for the last two weeks. I cut out all

carbohydrates and sugars and fruit. I started supplements and then probiotics.

Raw garlic three times a day, pau d'arco and introduced coconut oil. I really

feel much worse than before I began. Have severe vaginal thrush and in my

nipples but most of all I'm completely depleted of energy. I've been on the diet

three weeks and had hoped I'd be starting to improve. I'm also gaining weight

and have dreadful fluid retention. I would be so grateful of any help or even if

you can confirm that this is normal. I have found your website so helpful as

there is litle or no support in Ireland. Happy Christmas.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

There are many possible symptoms of die-off but I don't think anyone has all

of them at once.

For me, it was mostly a general all-over " sick " feeling, lightheadedness and

brain fog, sometimes nausea.

Zack

Moderator

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:23 AM, B <mbagardendesign@...> wrote:

>

>

> Bee. and Group members

> Just to be clear, will people in the group please give me their experience

> with die off. How did it feel to you personally?

> Where can i get an accurate definition of candida die off?

>

> THANKS

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi :

> Where can i get an accurate definition of candida die off?

>

*** I went to Bee's site and typed " die-off " into the search box and got several

articles. This one is very descriptive, you will probably get maybe two or

three reactions on the list, not all of them!!! LOL!

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/help1.php

Best, Marissa ( a group moderator)

[Guest guest]

Hi , I had all the symptoms, or nearly all of them. I was really ill. I

was nauseated, bloated, dizzy, weak, blurred speech, cold, back pain, tired,

drained, physically uncoordinated, mucousy, couldn't concentrate, light headed,

and had mental fog.

Basically I felt wipped out. I just slept alot. That lasted for about 5 days.

I think the description of having a " hangover " is pretty accurate too.

>

> Bee. and Group members

> Just to be clear, will people in the group please give me their experience

with die off. How did it feel to you personally?

> Where can i get an accurate definition of candida die off?

>

> THANKS

>

>

[Guest guest]

hei ,

in my case my neurodermitis got worse when I went too fast on higher doses of

coconut oil and now as I started to eat egg. I also had light flue symptoms

(nose running, and aches like when having fever), and I detox a bit over the

lungs too which gives me a cough sometimes and the feeling of having stuff in

there. I think those die offs depend heavily on what your disease symptoms are,

but dont be afraid, it not that bad. some of the reactions are funny, e.g. I do

have little " smell halluzinations " , and some are not like when my skin gets

worse, but all together you know that its a sign of healing and a step forward

to become a person free of health issues...something I dream about since I can

think

so dont be afraid and just start slowly and when the die offs start to be

annoying lower the antifungal dose (coconut oil) and do try the things Bee

reccomends like dry skin brushing and more vitamin C

Good luck!

>

> Bee. and Group members

> Just to be clear, will people in the group please give me their experience

with die off. How did it feel to you personally?

> Where can i get an accurate definition of candida die off?

>

> THANKS

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

It sounds like die off. When your kid is going through die off it seems

like forever but usually only lasts a week or two. The die-off reaction to

the anifungal switch usually occurs two days to two weeks after starting

Nizoral or Diflucan. A die-off reaction is when the yeast is being killed

off. It usually kicks up some severe reactions before exiting the body.

Something similar can happen with the antivirals also.

I know it is hard to believe because your child is acting so much more

autistic, but die-off is really is great news. It means your child will be

helped tremendously by the antifungal. You probably feel like you are going

backwards at this time, and it is hard to know that you are doing the right

thing. However, when die-off is over, you will see a new kid. More focused

and alert. You will be amazed by the change in your child. So hang on.

After die-off it will be wonderful! The hyper, silly, and drunken behavior

start to go away. Now they can learn to stop pinching or biting. (Or

whatever the behavior is that your child does. Behaviors that make you crazy

now, will be possible to get rid of with teaching.)

To help with die-off, you can give your child some activated charcoal (can

get at the pharmacy without a prescription) to absorb the yeast that is

being killed off. But be careful when you give it, because in addition to

absorbing the yeast that is existing the body, it will absorb medicines. So

don't give it shortly after giving meds. Die-off doesn't usually last more

than a week but can be as long as ten days. If it is really bad, call Dr.

G. He may tell you to either increase or decrease the dosage of the

anti-fungal.

Once I tried the pills myself just to see what die-off felt like. You feel

like PMS times twenty. During that time we didn't do anything complicated.

They feel like they have the flue but worse. They feel very sick but don't

have the communication skills to tell you that. We hung out and did things

he found relaxing like watching his favorite videos. It wasn't a time I

would try to teach my son anything new. Tylenol every three and a half

hours helps. Hang in there. This terrible time will bring great things,

Marcia

[Guest guest]

Is anyone using the charcoal for the die off. it is suppose to help soak up

stuff  for excretion, and decrease die off symptoms.

 

When we were on a DAN protocol w the anti fungals, we were told to give the milk

thistle as it helps w protecting the liver. 

From: ljc_dac <ljc_dac@...>

Subject: Re: New member introduction with questions - second post

Date: Monday, March 21, 2011, 1:57 PM

 

Hello,

Do die-off reactions include non-behavioral issues skin rash? A couple of years

ago I took my son off of an anti-fungal due to the rash that developed ...

Thanks!

>

> Min,

>

> All kids can improve no matter what their age. It is more difficult when

> they are older because you have more to teach them after their immune

> systems start working. I sent a mom who has a kid who is 24, not knowing if

> Dr. G could help her son because he was so much older and had been sick for

> such a long time.. But this mom reports that this is the best thing she

> ever did for her son and she has done a lot. He feels healthier and can now

> focus and learn.

>

>

>

> The fact that you did see a severe reaction with antivirals and antifungals

> is a very positive sign that your kiddo will be helped with . You

> just need to stick with it long enough to get past the die-off reaction to

> these meds. The die-off reaction happens to both the antifungal and

> antiviral. It usually occurs two days to two weeks after starting the

> antifungal or antiviral. A die-off reaction is when the yeast or virus is

> being killed off. It usually kicks up some severe reactions before exiting

> the body. That is why you don't want to start these meds at the same time

> or you will get an even more severe reaction.

>

>

>

> I know it is hard to believe because your child is acting so much more

> autistic, but die-off is really is great news. It means your child will be

> helped tremendously by the antifungal or the antiviral. You probably feel

> like you are going backwards at this time, and it is hard to know that you

> are doing the right thing. However, when die-off is over, you will see a

> new kid. More focused and alert. You will be amazed by the change in your

> child. So hang on. After die-off it will be wonderful! The hyper, silly,

> and drunken behavior start to go away. Now they can learn to stop pinching

> or biting. (Or whatever the behavior is that your child does. Behaviors

> that make you crazy now, will be possible to get rid of with teaching.)

>

>

>

> When your child is going through die off they feel very ill. Die-off

> doesn't usually last more than a week but can be as long as 21 days. If it

> is really bad, call your doctor. He may tell you to either increase or

> decrease the dosage of the anti-fungal. Once I tried the pills myself just

> to see what die-off felt like. You feel like PMS times twenty. During that

> time we didn't do anything complicated. They feel like they have the flue

> but worse. They feel very sick but don't have the communication skills to

> tell you that. We hung out and did things he found relaxing like watching

> his favorite videos. It wasn't a time I would try to teach my son anything

> new. Tylenol every three and a half hours helps. That terrible time will

> bring great things, but you have to stay with it.

>

> Marcia

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What is Dr. G’s opinion of milk thistle?

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Tooher

Sent: March-22-11 8:59 AM

Subject: Re: Re: die off

Is anyone using the charcoal for the die off. it is suppose to help soak up

stuff for excretion, and decrease die off symptoms.

When we were on a DAN protocol w the anti fungals, we were told to give the milk

thistle as it helps w protecting the liver.

From: Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...

<mailto:rngcoggs%40sbcglobal.net> >

Subject: Re: Re: New member introduction with questions - second post

<mailto:%40>

Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 3:09 AM

Sometimes you get a negative reaction when putting kids on antifungals and

antivirals. The key is seeing if the reaction is temporary and the child comes

through it brighter, more attentive and focused, etc.

Die-off can be difficult.

All the best,

Robyn

--- On Mon, 3/21/11, ljc_dac <ljc_dac@... <mailto:ljc_dac%40> >

wrote:

From: ljc_dac <ljc_dac@... <mailto:ljc_dac%40> >

Subject: Re: New member introduction with questions - second post

<mailto:%40>

Date: Monday, March 21, 2011, 1:57 PM

Hello,

Do die-off reactions include non-behavioral issues skin rash? A couple of years

ago I took my son off of an anti-fungal due to the rash that developed ...

Thanks!

>

> Min,

>

> All kids can improve no matter what their age. It is more difficult when

> they are older because you have more to teach them after their immune

> systems start working. I sent a mom who has a kid who is 24, not knowing if

> Dr. G could help her son because he was so much older and had been sick for

> such a long time.. But this mom reports that this is the best thing she

> ever did for her son and she has done a lot. He feels healthier and can now

> focus and learn.

>

>

>

> The fact that you did see a severe reaction with antivirals and antifungals

> is a very positive sign that your kiddo will be helped with . You

> just need to stick with it long enough to get past the die-off reaction to

> these meds. The die-off reaction happens to both the antifungal and

> antiviral. It usually occurs two days to two weeks after starting the

> antifungal or antiviral. A die-off reaction is when the yeast or virus is

> being killed off. It usually kicks up some severe reactions before exiting

> the body. That is why you don't want to start these meds at the same time

> or you will get an even more severe reaction.

>

>

>

> I know it is hard to believe because your child is acting so much more

> autistic, but die-off is really is great news. It means your child will be

> helped tremendously by the antifungal or the antiviral. You probably feel

> like you are going backwards at this time, and it is hard to know that you

> are doing the right thing. However, when die-off is over, you will see a

> new kid. More focused and alert. You will be amazed by the change in your

> child. So hang on. After die-off it will be wonderful! The hyper, silly,

> and drunken behavior start to go away. Now they can learn to stop pinching

> or biting. (Or whatever the behavior is that your child does. Behaviors

> that make you crazy now, will be possible to get rid of with teaching.)

>

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> When your child is going through die off they feel very ill. Die-off

> doesn't usually last more than a week but can be as long as 21 days. If it

> is really bad, call your doctor. He may tell you to either increase or

> decrease the dosage of the anti-fungal. Once I tried the pills myself just

> to see what die-off felt like. You feel like PMS times twenty. During that

> time we didn't do anything complicated. They feel like they have the flue

> but worse. They feel very sick but don't have the communication skills to

> tell you that. We hung out and did things he found relaxing like watching

> his favorite videos. It wasn't a time I would try to teach my son anything

> new. Tylenol every three and a half hours helps. That terrible time will

> bring great things, but you have to stay with it.

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