Re: Good things are coming!

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This is great! Good to see you, Kassi, and Sharisa. Thanks for sharing this.

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This is great! Good to see you, Kassi, and Sharisa. Thanks for sharing this.

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Hey! I see you!

(and other people too)

Kassiane

--- Sharisa Joy Kochmeister

wrote:

> Go to this webpage and click on trailer and watch

> and listen, please:

> http://www.lovinglamppostsmovie.com/

>

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Even YOU! Big smiles, friend Kassianne.

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> > Go to this webpage and click on trailer and watch

> > and listen, please:

> > http://www.lovinglamppostsmovie.com/

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[Guest guest]

Sharisa and Kassi, I SEE YOU! I have a question (maybe opening a

can of worms) for you friends of mine who are on the spectrum. I want

all of my children to be healthy. If working on the allergy issues or

gut issues or diet issues of a child with autism makes them less

attracted to " lampposts " , is treating their medical issues wrong (in

your opinion)? I'm trying really hard to perspective take, understand

the message you all are sending. I want my children to be healthy--AND

happy. Penny

>

> Go to this webpage and click on trailer and watch and listen, please:

> http://www.lovinglamppostsmovie.com/

>

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I can only answer with my view, not anyone else's. We

all know I am pretty " militantly " anti cure, though

not " supremacist " (supremacists confuse me, honestly)

and have enough medical issues to fill a book. I also

read scientific peer reviewed literature for sh*ts and

giggles so I do UNDERSTAND them all (epilepsy,

headaches that are somewhere between migraines and

clusters, true celiac, hypothalmic dysfunction causing

clinical adrenal failure, dipsogenic diabetes

insipidus, and hypoglycemia, and apart from that

perfectly healthy TYVM).

IMHO. Working on health issues that make someone SICK

is not a problem. And we all look more " whatever "

(autistic, OCD, ADHD, whiny, whatever) under stress.

Being sick or in pain is stress. So if there is a true

health issue, then treating it is normal. Not wanting

your child to be in pain is normal.

It's when the focus goes from health and pain, to

changing the child to look normal, that things get not

right. Because there is nothing wrong with being

different. Hurting yes, being different no.

Kassiane

--- penelope_fam wrote:

> Sharisa and Kassi, I SEE YOU! I have a question

> (maybe opening a

> can of worms) for you friends of mine who are on the

> spectrum. I want

> all of my children to be healthy. If working on the

> allergy issues or

> gut issues or diet issues of a child with autism

> makes them less

> attracted to " lampposts " , is treating their medical

> issues wrong (in

> your opinion)? I'm trying really hard to

> perspective take, understand

> the message you all are sending. I want my children

> to be healthy--AND

> happy. Penny

>

> >

> > Go to this webpage and click on trailer and watch

> and listen, please:

> > http://www.lovinglamppostsmovie.com/

> >

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I can only answer with my view, not anyone else's. We

all know I am pretty " militantly " anti cure, though

not " supremacist " (supremacists confuse me, honestly)

and have enough medical issues to fill a book. I also

read scientific peer reviewed literature for sh*ts and

giggles so I do UNDERSTAND them all (epilepsy,

headaches that are somewhere between migraines and

clusters, true celiac, hypothalmic dysfunction causing

clinical adrenal failure, dipsogenic diabetes

insipidus, and hypoglycemia, and apart from that

perfectly healthy TYVM).

IMHO. Working on health issues that make someone SICK

is not a problem. And we all look more " whatever "

(autistic, OCD, ADHD, whiny, whatever) under stress.

Being sick or in pain is stress. So if there is a true

health issue, then treating it is normal. Not wanting

your child to be in pain is normal.

It's when the focus goes from health and pain, to

changing the child to look normal, that things get not

right. Because there is nothing wrong with being

different. Hurting yes, being different no.

Kassiane

--- penelope_fam wrote:

> Sharisa and Kassi, I SEE YOU! I have a question

> (maybe opening a

> can of worms) for you friends of mine who are on the

> spectrum. I want

> all of my children to be healthy. If working on the

> allergy issues or

> gut issues or diet issues of a child with autism

> makes them less

> attracted to " lampposts " , is treating their medical

> issues wrong (in

> your opinion)? I'm trying really hard to

> perspective take, understand

> the message you all are sending. I want my children

> to be healthy--AND

> happy. Penny

>

> >

> > Go to this webpage and click on trailer and watch

> and listen, please:

> > http://www.lovinglamppostsmovie.com/

> >

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Treatment is a good thing... " CURE " has such negative connotations

that I find it totally and outrageously demeaning and condescedning.

> >

> > Go to this webpage and click on trailer and watch and listen, please:

> > http://www.lovinglamppostsmovie.com/

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Treatment is a good thing... " CURE " has such negative connotations

that I find it totally and outrageously demeaning and condescedning.

> >

> > Go to this webpage and click on trailer and watch and listen, please:

> > http://www.lovinglamppostsmovie.com/

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Truly a pleasure and part of my ongoing mission to educate. :-)

>

> This is great! Good to see you, Kassi, and Sharisa. Thanks for

sharing this.

> Melinda

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[Guest guest]

Truly a pleasure and part of my ongoing mission to educate. :-)

>

> This is great! Good to see you, Kassi, and Sharisa. Thanks for

sharing this.

> Melinda

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[Guest guest]

Props to my soul sister, Kassi!

> > >

> > > Go to this webpage and click on trailer and watch

> > and listen, please:

> > > http://www.lovinglamppostsmovie.com/

> > >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Props to my soul sister, Kassi!

> > >

> > > Go to this webpage and click on trailer and watch

> > and listen, please:

> > > http://www.lovinglamppostsmovie.com/

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

What if the pro-cure and anti-cure " camps " all want exactly the same

thing, only they're using completely different language?

>

> Treatment is a good thing... " CURE " has such negative connotations

> that I find it totally and outrageously demeaning and condescedning.

[Guest guest]

What if the pro-cure and anti-cure " camps " all want exactly the same

thing, only they're using completely different language?

>

> Treatment is a good thing... " CURE " has such negative connotations

> that I find it totally and outrageously demeaning and condescedning.

[Guest guest]

I think most do, until the lies and half-truths start. I look at it

like a bell curve. On one end you have the parents who hate everything

about their kids because they have autism. On the other you have the

people who think any attempt to do anything to help anyone with autism

is horrible. And in the middle, the high point, you have people that

love people with and without autism and only want to see every person

be the best he or she can be. The problem is that the few extremes can

taint the rest of us.

Debi

>

> What if the pro-cure and anti-cure " camps " all want exactly the same

> thing, only they're using completely different language?

[Guest guest]

I think most do, until the lies and half-truths start. I look at it

like a bell curve. On one end you have the parents who hate everything

about their kids because they have autism. On the other you have the

people who think any attempt to do anything to help anyone with autism

is horrible. And in the middle, the high point, you have people that

love people with and without autism and only want to see every person

be the best he or she can be. The problem is that the few extremes can

taint the rest of us.

Debi

>

> What if the pro-cure and anti-cure " camps " all want exactly the same

> thing, only they're using completely different language?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/3/08 7:06:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

bubbetta@... writes:

Let's figure out a way to all be on the same side so we can all put our

energy into helping the kids instead of fighting one another.

i am so glad that we are asking what words mean instead of yelling. i think

this is some wonderful progress and will help us 'to be on the same side'

doing all we can for our kids

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In a message dated 2/3/08 11:18:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

fightingautism@... writes:

Some researchers in

the autism community have had a horribly untrue picture painted about

them, just as people with autism often get horribly untrue pictures

painted about them.

this is truly difficult.

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Let's figure out a way to all be on the same side so we can all put our

energy into helping the kids instead of fighting one another. The more

I read the words of the anti-cure " camps " , the more I sense that a large

proportion of both sides actually AGREE, except that the " camps " are

using radically different terminology, and it's the terminology that

needs to be updated and agreed upon.

>

> Good thing I don't let them taint me and fight against them being

> allowed to taint others, then.

[Guest guest]

sondra i agrees. this post is very good. can i read it to our school

tomorrow for the children to read and we make lessons of it all. sometimes

children

asked what/how they should feel about something which was the right or wrong

way to feel about theeir autism. and this is a perfect answers for them, i

want them to have their own opinions not accept one handed down to them.

Crabtail

we are the whole child living school and this would be wonderful to read in

school tomoorw.

In a message dated 2/3/2008 2:33:25 P.M. Central Standard Time,

czupke@... writes:

Sondra -- you really have a gift for words.

-- Cassie

sondra wrote:

> I to wanted to add the sunshine and rain.... Her in the USA we

> take for granted the snow.... some see it as a disaster, some enjoy

> it and love to do sports and or play in it, some love the beauty that

> the snow can bring but regardless each winter many of the states know

> it will snow to some extent......

>

> But those who never ever get snow like Cuba only can imagine snow...

> the one author of a book titled Waiting for Snow in Havanna tells of

> hims life as a cuban and then later as an exiled boy to america. he

> comes to say that the most oppressed countries and poor contries are

> those who have no snow.... because snow means seasons which means

> crops and foods of variety and it means prosperity to hae of the

> wealth of food always available ....

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In a message dated 2/3/2008 3:03:18 P.M. Central Standard Time,

hfa2@... writes:

crab tail yes you can be to share of it. I to be of to add am of much

a heart for the cuban exiles and my heart is of much compassions to

them. it is of one of my most strongest interests, besides autism. I to

have around 40-50 books on Cuba and trying to make a strong library of

the subject.

Sondra

how interesting. i know much about cuba. we live in south florida. many of

our children's families came from cuba.

Crabtail

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[Guest guest]

I agree with you. But it's not just terminology. Some researchers in

the autism community have had a horribly untrue picture painted about

them, just as people with autism often get horribly untrue pictures

painted about them. I don't know how you get past people lying and/or

misunderstanding to benefit their own stances.

Debi

>

> Let's figure out a way to all be on the same side so we can all put our

> energy into helping the kids instead of fighting one another. The more

> I read the words of the anti-cure " camps " , the more I sense that a large

> proportion of both sides actually AGREE, except that the " camps " are

> using radically different terminology, and it's the terminology that

> needs to be updated and agreed upon.

[Guest guest]

there is not ever going to be a way to express teh multiple views on

autism because it varies as much as the religions of this world, as the

cultures of this world and so there is never going to be of a complete

accepatance of others views just as there will never be of one religion

or belief system for the entire world because people will be to cling

to their own belief system no matter what the words or terminology is

to be.

Sondra

[Guest guest]

Sounds like a fine idea to me!

> > > >

> > > > Treatment is a good thing... " CURE " has such negative connotations

> > > > that I find it totally and outrageously demeaning and

> condescedning.

> > >

> >

>