Re: machine and how it works...? : Quality, not Quantity may be the key

April 2, 2006

Hi Mike,

You mentioned that the RF carrier made an improvement in your pad

device. I have been thinking of building one with a RF carrier but

have been reading conflicting reports as to its effectiveness on

various devices. Could you please give me an idea of the type of

results you have had?

> >

> > Great news Mike,

> >

> > Are you planning on making your device available, or is it just

for

> your personal use ?

> >

> > I have plenty of free advertising space on the Frex web site.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Ken

> > Re: machine and how it works...? : Quality, not

> Quantity may be the key

> >

> > Hi Ken, I feel that a carrier is a significant factor and from

my

> own

> > research it appears to assist in deeper tissue penetration.

While

> my

> > initial experiments were with a fixed carrier of 4Mhz I'm

> currently

> > working on making it adjustable to make it more pad friendly. I

> > recently built a Rife/Bare device and was amazed at how

powerful

> an

> > effect these machines have via the plasma tube. As I am only a

> little

> > over 12 months into Rife technology I have a long way to go to

> catch

> > up with all the other technical minded members of the group.

> Having

> > said that however, I am happy with the progression so far due

to

> the

> > assistance of forum members. I'm getting excellent results from

> my

> > pad device which I have added a preamp to allow it to be used

> with

> > the smallest input signals and therefore make it compatible

with

> all

> > laptop computers using your frex program.

> >

> > Mike F

> >

April 2, 2006

asked several hundred cancer patients what they were doing about their

condition. 40% admitted to using vitamins and supplements in addition to

allopathic care.

How many of them did not admit to using technology like Rife?

How many of the others did not admit anything for fear of trouble?

I do not think that amercans want to do anything that would require

effort. Learning about rife, and nutrition is a full time job, and you

cannot be watching television, and get well. I spoke to a lyme doc here

on my visit to AZ and he said he does not know any client that rife

worked on, even though he believed in it, and my reply is that he did

not see anybody that tried. It takes at least 2 yrs of constant

dicipline in both rifing, detox, and nutrition, saunas, and excercise,

and most people would rather die in the doctors care by taking radiation

and chemo.... Its like getting a new brain!

I have know many sucessful people who are " new people " as a result of

years of hard work.

April 2, 2006

Hi Mike, thanks for your email. Nothing goes smoothly and looks like

the doctor has to be involved as my mother is in a aged care home and

they are nervous about alternative treatment. I will be carrying out

tests on healthy tissue first (me) to be able to record voltage and

current outputs. Types of bandages to use ( they talk of foam

bandages) etc. etc.

I was unable to use the relays I had, so had to use the 555 timer

which seems to be working ok. There is a small drift due to standard

components being used but I can't see how it can make much difference

with such lengthy timing cycles. (value your comments regarding that)

Will keep you informed of my results.

With regard to the work done by Bjorn Nordenstrom I would appreciate

receiving them when you can send them.

Regards, Mike F

> >

> > Great news Mike,

> >

> > Are you planning on making your device available, or is it just

for

> your personal use ?

> >

> > I have plenty of free advertising space on the Frex web site.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Ken

> > Re: machine and how it works...? : Quality,

not

> Quantity may be the key

> >

> > Hi Ken, I feel that a carrier is a significant factor and

from my

> own

> > research it appears to assist in deeper tissue penetration.

While

> my

> > initial experiments were with a fixed carrier of 4Mhz I'm

> currently

> > working on making it adjustable to make it more pad friendly.

I

> > recently built a Rife/Bare device and was amazed at how

powerful

> an

> > effect these machines have via the plasma tube. As I am only

a

> little

> > over 12 months into Rife technology I have a long way to go

to

> catch

> > up with all the other technical minded members of the group.

> Having

> > said that however, I am happy with the progression so far due

to

> the

> > assistance of forum members. I'm getting excellent results

from

> my

> > pad device which I have added a preamp to allow it to be used

> with

> > the smallest input signals and therefore make it compatible

with

> all

> > laptop computers using your frex program.

> >

> > Mike F

> >

>

April 2, 2006

Hi zenalpha,

Do you have a good link to the Cell-O-Matt? I couldn't find on

that had a description or photo.

Bil

PC 1000

M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator

http://magpulser.com

Mammoth Lakes, CA

mailto:magpulser@...

z> I found the cell-o-matt device works well for me. The principal is

z> that the copper blanket attracts the charges inside of your body and

z> then grounds them. I no longer get shocked when picking up canned

z> vegetables at the grocery store.

z> Although I'm not too sure about the cell-o-matt's status in the US

z> now... thought I remember seeing something on the internet about it

z> being held by customs...

z>

April 2, 2006

Bruce, thanks so much for taking the time for such a lengthy and thoughtful

posting. I will certainly be trying my GB4000 without the carrier.

The new group I started, The Healing Freqs, had planned to make a bunch of

MWO's as a group project, but now you have freaked me out on a spark gap. Do

you discourage the project completely or is there a way to make a MWO

without a spark gap? We were on the verge of ordering parts so your help

would be incredibly appreciated.

And thanks for the approach you are taking so that the newbies like me

don't jump off the cliff. You are demonstrating a very evolved nature in

that you have not turned your back on the rest of us, but care enough to

reach out and give us a hand. Thanks and blessings on you and all you do.

lee

> Friends,

>

> Much of this was previously discussed over the last 8-1/2 years on the various

> Rife lists, starting back when Hawkins owned & ran the first Rife-List on

> Eskimo.com. Hopefully I can reiterate a few points that will help all of those

> who were not around when much of this foundational material was first

> presented

> to approach this subject from a broader perspective.

>

April 2, 2006

No, I bought it from the website www.life-energies.com but I guess

that site no longer exists... I do have a brochure, but I don't have

a scanner anymore. In any event not sure if you can get it to the US

anymore because of customs. It's basically looks sort of like copper

chainmail with cloth interwoven around it. attached to one end is a

place where you are supposed to attach a wire to a grounding device.

It's large enough to encompass your torso roughly.

I also have a CD called " computer clear " that claims to negate the

negative electric magnetic energies around you. I definately feel

something, but I only used it once. Not sure if it works or not.

>

> Hi zenalpha,

>

> Do you have a good link to the Cell-O-Matt? I couldn't find on

> that had a description or photo.

>

> Bil

>

> PC 1000

> M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator

> http://magpulser.com

> Mammoth Lakes, CA

>

> mailto:magpulser@...

>

> z> I found the cell-o-matt device works well for me. The principal is

> z> that the copper blanket attracts the charges inside of your body and

> z> then grounds them. I no longer get shocked when picking up canned

> z> vegetables at the grocery store.

> z> Although I'm not too sure about the cell-o-matt's status in the US

> z> now... thought I remember seeing something on the internet about it

> z> being held by customs...

>

April 2, 2006

Like I said: one of my sisters in law vaccinates her whole family for the

flu every year.

And every year most if not all of them get the flu anyway.

She was over last night for my son's thirteenth birthday party and was not

happy at all at seeing me out and about.

You see, just yesterday morning I had gone through general anesthesia to

have an internal stent removed (from the kidney to the bladder-the next to

last reminder that I had had cancer), so I was supposed to be in bed full of

pain killers, not helping out with the party.

When the doctors told me I was terminal this girl had suggested for my kids

to see a shrink to help out with the impending loss of their father.

Because of course showing your family that you are willing to put up a fight

is not healthier than accepting death.

When I easily survived through last summer-and I was not supposed to-she

started to say that the diagnosis (from Sloan and NY Hospital) was evidently

wrong.

She found out how much I spent on my EM+ and what supplements and vitamins I

take every day, and has complained aloud that it is wasted money I should

leave behind for my kids.

Yesterday night she was finally told that my cancer markers are zero two

months in a row, so of course she mentioned that the whole thing was

definitely a scam on my part, which makes perfect sense: I left a job that

paid me five grand a week to make people feel sorry for me.

This girl had had twins through cesarean section and, when she turned out

pregnant again she followed the doctor's advice to try and have a normal

delivery instead of getting cut again.

She lost the baby and almost died herself.

Some people will fight to the last breath in their bodies as a matter of

principle because reality goes against everything they've been taught.

I just pray that if she ever has to face what my family did she has the

humility and common sense to ask for help instead of counting on an

allopathic " magic bullet " .

Although I should perhaps lower my expectations: she has stopped talking to

my other brother in law since she's found out that last month he eliminated

his sciatica with ONE SESSION with my EM+...

Luigi

Re: machine and how it works...? : Quality, not Quantity may

be the key

>

> asked several hundred cancer patients what they were doing about their

> condition. 40% admitted to using vitamins and supplements in addition to

> allopathic care.

> How many of them did not admit to using technology like Rife?

> How many of the others did not admit anything for fear of trouble?

>

> I do not think that amercans want to do anything that would require

> effort. Learning about rife, and nutrition is a full time job, and you

> cannot be watching television, and get well. I spoke to a lyme doc here

> on my visit to AZ and he said he does not know any client that rife

> worked on, even though he believed in it, and my reply is that he did

> not see anybody that tried. It takes at least 2 yrs of constant

> dicipline in both rifing, detox, and nutrition, saunas, and excercise,

> and most people would rather die in the doctors care by taking radiation

> and chemo.... Its like getting a new brain!

>

> I have know many sucessful people who are " new people " as a result of

> years of hard work.

>

April 2, 2006

Bil Green wrote:

> Hi Bruce,

>

> Thanks for your these replies. Very informative (as usual).And

your posts are now so much easier to read too. Excellent

translation (what happened?).

Bil & friends,

I spent about five hours composing that specific wording, in an attempt to make

some rather complex aspects of plasma dynamics and bioenergetic interactions

simpler for people to understand and relate to. Unfortunately, some technical

aspects continue to defy simplifying to this level... and many health-challenged

people are also affected with enough of the 'brain fog', so that comprehension

and insight do not come easily to them.

>BG On the subject of spark plugs, I feel that it may be at least

> safe to use them for this reason. When you drive a car you are

> exposed to nearby sparks from the distributor cap (at least on

> some cars). And the use of most motor driven tools and

> appliances.

>

> For many people this is a lot of exposure to low power RF (not to

> mention the bombardment from all the transmitting towers). So an

> hour or so with an EMEM and a low power spark doesn't seem so bad

> by comparison.

Sparks within the enclosure of the cylinder / combustion chamber are largely

shielded and grounded within the engine- not the same case as in crude EMEM

systems where a spark plug is fit in the open in the end of an ignition coil

[grin]. Some of the EMF / RF energy / field, however, is radiated from the high

voltage spark plug wires, and it is enough to constitute an added health

stressor factor to some sensitive individuals- dramatically so in some cases

according to some reports.

I've come across reports (on the web) of some electro-sensitive individuals not

being able to ride in most autos- not being able to handle even this low level

of exposure to a common internal combustion spark ignition system without

intolerable aggravation and deterioration of their sensitive condition, however.

For those sensitized individuals, the older Mercedes diesel autos were the only

vehicle in which they could tolerate riding. (Unlike gas fueled vehicles, diesel

engines use NO ignition spark at all, but instead run on the detonation of the

vaporized injected diesel fuel under high compression.)

(Chemical sensitivity reactions become heightened in highly electro-sensitive

individuals, too, however, so riding in traffic breathing the exhaust fumes from

other vehicles- especially those from other diesel burning vehicles- becomes

another major challenge in their attempt to get out of their homes to travel.

(There might be links to related reports off my main Multiple Chemical

Sensitivity / Environmental Illness/ Electrosensitivity page; I have not,

however, added any new links to that page in quite a while, so also doing an

extensive web search will undoubtedly provide you with access to a wealth of

newer material.) There's a link from lower on my main web page into some of this

material:

http://www.stenulson.net/althealth

Claessens recent post to this list should also be very helpful; you may

want to look into his other writings- (there were links offered in his post.)

O. Becker's last book, " Cross Currents: The Promise of Electromedecine,

The Perils Of Electro-pollution " should be considered essential background

reading material for anyone considering actually supplying ANY research

equipment to any other researchers. The other book that should be considered

essential reading is Dr. L. Oschman's book, " Energy Medicine- The

Scientific Basis " . I urge anyone who has not read these two books to consider

doing so. (Both can be ordered on Amazon.com; there's even a search box link

into Amazon off my main page.)

(When you start to think about it and contemplate the implications, it's really

pretty scary to understand that a person who was previously leading a 'normal

life' can somehow become extremely electro-sensitive from supposedly innocuous

exposures.

" Expecting " .... that you have not been inadvertently misled by 'people who claim

to know' but who may never have followed this aspect of induced resonance

research is a subtle trap many may have fallen into. The only way back out of

that kind of trap is to investigate further for yourself- don't necessarily take

my word, or anyone else's word on *anything* )

I wish each and every one of you the best of results in your research!

Be Well!!

bruce

April 2, 2006

Thanks Mike, I look forward to some photo's and a short discription :-)

Regards,

Ken

Re: machine and how it works...? : Quality, not Quantity may

be the key

Hi Ken, the pad machine is available now to those who are unable to

construct one themselves. I haven't costed it out yet but as it takes

me about a day to build it would have to be somewhere around $A150.00

to make it worth my while. Bearing in mind at this stage I am more

into research than manufacturing. I have just finished putting

together a working model similar to the specs of the Electroregenisis

machine and hope to carry out some tests this week. I'll send you

some photos and details off group of the pad unit.

Cheers Mike

>

> Great news Mike,

>

> Are you planning on making your device available, or is it just for

your personal use ?

>

> I have plenty of free advertising space on the Frex web site.

>

> Regards,

> Ken

>

April 2, 2006

Hi Mike,

I've dropped using the word " alternative " therapy for frequeny sessions, and now

say " complementary " therapy.

This has made people feel a lot easier about using frequency therapy.

I found the results with frequency therapy are so much more enhanced when

dove-tailed into other medical healing regimes and it becomes easier for people

to accept frequency therapy when they are not expected to give up their Doctor.

Regards,

Ken

Re: machine and how it works...? : Quality, not Quantity may

be the key

Hi Mike, thanks for your email. Nothing goes smoothly and looks like

the doctor has to be involved as my mother is in a aged care home and

they are nervous about alternative treatment. I will be carrying out

tests on healthy tissue first (me) to be able to record voltage and

current outputs. Types of bandages to use ( they talk of foam

bandages) etc. etc.

I was unable to use the relays I had, so had to use the 555 timer

which seems to be working ok. There is a small drift due to standard

components being used but I can't see how it can make much difference

with such lengthy timing cycles. (value your comments regarding that)

Will keep you informed of my results.

With regard to the work done by Bjorn Nordenstrom I would appreciate

receiving them when you can send them.

Regards, Mike F

April 2, 2006

Why does it seem that family members are less accepting of this technology than

strangers?? I have had some interesting and exciting conversations about this

with many people I have come in contact with, but most of my family is a whole

different story .... you'd think they would be thrilled that it works so well,

but it seems like they are wanting it to not work.

I have used it successfully on my lyme, and recently eliminated my 87-year-old

aunt's bronchitis. She's ecstatic, but no one else seems to believe her either.

Go figure.

GE

gailevans@...

www.expertembroidery.com

www.livingnow.net/gevans

Re: Re: machine and how it works...? : Quality, not Quantity

may be the key

....Although I should perhaps lower my expectations: she has stopped talking

to

my other brother in law since she's found out that last month he eliminated

his sciatica with ONE SESSION with my EM+...

Luigi

April 3, 2006

Hi Ken, I like " complimentary " wise thinking.

MIke F

>

> Hi Mike,

>

> I've dropped using the word " alternative " therapy for frequeny

sessions, and now say " complementary " therapy.

>

> This has made people feel a lot easier about using frequency

therapy.

>

> I found the results with frequency therapy are so much more

enhanced when dove-tailed into other medical healing regimes and it

becomes easier for people to accept frequency therapy when they are

not expected to give up their Doctor.

>

> Regards,

> Ken

> Re: machine and how it works...? : Quality, not

Quantity may be the key

>

> Hi Mike, thanks for your email. Nothing goes smoothly and looks

like

> the doctor has to be involved as my mother is in a aged care home

and

> they are nervous about alternative treatment. I will be carrying

out

> tests on healthy tissue first (me) to be able to record voltage

and

> current outputs. Types of bandages to use ( they talk of foam

> bandages) etc. etc.

>

> I was unable to use the relays I had, so had to use the 555 timer

> which seems to be working ok. There is a small drift due to

standard

> components being used but I can't see how it can make much

difference

> with such lengthy timing cycles. (value your comments regarding

that)

> Will keep you informed of my results.

>

> With regard to the work done by Bjorn Nordenstrom I would

appreciate

> receiving them when you can send them.

>

> Regards, Mike F

>

April 3, 2006

No problems Ken, we are losing power for 9 hours today while they do

some upgrade. So no internet. Will send tomorrow.

Mike F

> >

> > Great news Mike,

> >

> > Are you planning on making your device available, or is it just

for

> your personal use ?

> >

> > I have plenty of free advertising space on the Frex web site.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Ken

> >

>

April 3, 2006

It is all semantics, but one's MD is going to be more interested in

something which is " Complementary " to his or her work, than he or she

would be for an " Alternative " .. Remember that these folks have been

taught for over 70 years that alternative is quackery. They can't be

very happy, either, about drug after drug being recalled for serious -

sometimes fatal - side effects!!

Dave Felt

Ken Uzzell wrote:

>Hi Mike,

>

>I've dropped using the word " alternative " therapy for frequeny sessions, and

now say " complementary " therapy.

>

>This has made people feel a lot easier about using frequency therapy.

>

>I found the results with frequency therapy are so much more enhanced when

dove-tailed into other medical healing regimes and it becomes easier for people

to accept frequency therapy when they are not expected to give up their Doctor.

>

>Regards,

>Ken

>

April 3, 2006

Gail ,

I think their response is related to wanting " to be right! " .

To some people being right is much more important than achieving a

desired result. A lot of people get great satisfaction in " being

right " , regardless of the outcome.

Regards ,

Mark !

>

> Why does it seem that family members are less accepting of this

technology than strangers?? I have had some interesting and exciting

conversations about this with many people I have come in contact with,

but most of my family is a whole different story .... you'd think they

would be thrilled that it works so well, but it seems like they are

wanting it to not work.

>

> I have used it successfully on my lyme, and recently eliminated my

87-year-old aunt's bronchitis. She's ecstatic, but no one else seems

to believe her either. Go figure.

>

> GE

> gailevans@...

> www.expertembroidery.com

> www.livingnow.net/gevans

>

> Re: Re: machine and how it works...? : Quality,

not Quantity may be the key

>

> ....Although I should perhaps lower my expectations: she has

stopped talking to

> my other brother in law since she's found out that last month he

eliminated

> his sciatica with ONE SESSION with my EM+...

> Luigi

>

April 3, 2006

Remember Gail that familiarity breeds contempt and a hero is never honoured in

his own land.

Yours,

Ian Macleod

snicksb wrote:

Gail ,

I think their response is related to wanting " to be right! " .

To some people being right is much more important than achieving a

desired result. A lot of people get great satisfaction in " being

right " , regardless of the outcome.

Regards ,

Mark !

>

> Why does it seem that family members are less accepting of this

technology than strangers?? I have had some interesting and exciting

conversations about this with many people I have come in contact with,

but most of my family is a whole different story .... you'd think they

would be thrilled that it works so well, but it seems like they are

wanting it to not work.

>

> I have used it successfully on my lyme, and recently eliminated my

87-year-old aunt's bronchitis. She's ecstatic, but no one else seems

to believe her either. Go figure.

>

> GE

> gailevans@...

> www.expertembroidery.com

> www.livingnow.net/gevans

>

> Re: Re: machine and how it works...? : Quality,

not Quantity may be the key

>

> ....Although I should perhaps lower my expectations: she has

stopped talking to

> my other brother in law since she's found out that last month he

eliminated

> his sciatica with ONE SESSION with my EM+...

> Luigi

>

April 3, 2006

Hi,

I view plasma ball as huge spark plug or spark gap inside ionizing gas

environment.

People who are electrosensitve can be identified positively by kinesiology

muscle testing & might be using dowsing too.

Healthy Regards,

Gesi

Re: Re: machine and how it works...? : Quality, not Quantity

may be the key

> Bil Green wrote:

>

>> Hi Bruce,

>>

>> Thanks for your these replies. Very informative (as usual).And

> your posts are now so much easier to read too. Excellent

> translation (what happened?).

>

> Bil & friends,

>

> I spent about five hours composing that specific wording, in an attempt to

> make

> some rather complex aspects of plasma dynamics and bioenergetic

> interactions

> simpler for people to understand and relate to.

April 3, 2006

This seems to be commonplace and I don't understand why this happens,

however, it reminds me of scripture.

Mark 6:4

4 But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own

country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.

(KJV)

jra

Re: Re: machine and how it works...? : Quality, not

> Quantity may be the key

>

> ....Although I should perhaps lower my expectations: she has stopped

> talking to

> my other brother in law since she's found out that last month he

> eliminated

> his sciatica with ONE SESSION with my EM+...

> Luigi

>

April 3, 2006

Bil Green wrote:

> For many people this is a lot of exposure to low power RF (not to

> mention the bombardment from all the transmitting towers). So an

> hour or so with an EMEM and a low power spark doesn't seem so bad

> by comparison. I know, the less RF pollution the better.

It saddens me that you appear to have missed the points of my extensive article

completely... I certainly have no desire to offend you, so I want to

respectfully suggest that you reread it, and search widely elsewhere for further

information on the aspects that I might not have expanded upon sufficiently.

>BG " Doesn't Seem Bad By Comparison " ???

I do advocate precautions; the " First, Do No Harm " concept put forth by

Hippocrates has always seemed a valid baseline from which to approach this

research- especially when someone might be contemplating placing experimental

equipment into the hands of health-challenged individuals who's condition may

possibly be *severely compromised* by even one more added 'Stressor Factor'

Maybe someone else can put it simpler words yet... and maybe it's just a message

that some people simply don't want to consider.

I just got off the phone with from Toronto, however- he called while I was

trying to compose this message. is one of those unfortunate individuals who

has had Lyme for a long time, & who recently tried to use " Rife " equipment

(devices made by other people out there) as his last hope. In hopes of gaining

some benefit, he ran it a lot; In using the equipment he bought, he has now

become so extensively electro-sensitive (as well as also being very chemically

sensitive) that he can not even stand to turn on ANY of his devices- can NOT

even have it turned on long enough to set one of the Beneficial frequencies.

(This is with the RF carrier turned off, not using the amplifier, and with the

output amplitude still at zero... pretty scary that someone can become THAT

sensitive in a moderately short period of time...) His condition was so

aggravated by the previous " rife " exposures, that he now finds riding in a

normal car is very damaging (ignition system EMF / RF), and almost intolerable.

Even trying to use his cordless rechargeable Braun shaver now aggravates his

condition with about 30 seconds of turning it on- he will have to learn to shave

with a blade again....

The scary part: he was not noticably electro-sensitive as recently as about four

months ago- his condition has gone this far downhill since then while trying to

use the 'rife' equipment.

Since he can no longer even tolerate turning on his 'rife' equipment, he's close

to giving up... he's been pushed that far down the descending spiral.

I told him that, in his present condition, that he is too sensitive to use most

of the equipment which I offer researchers, too- he's gone too far. I advised

him that unless he can find a way to get out of his present living environment,

remove himself from the possible constant health stressor factors which he may

be unable to recognize but which are a part of living in the middle of a

polluted metropolitan area,, that simply ceasing using the equipment that

contributed to his severe deterioration will not in itself be enough to allow

him to regain some semblance of a 'normal life.' But I did try to offer him a

variety of alternative approaches to implement, and give him some grounds for

hope.

But unless he adopts a very rigorous attitude of " Prudent Avoidance " from this

moment forward, the outlook is not overly promising for - he's now a long

way beyond the easy turnaround point.

So Bil, in consideration of what we KNOW is happening to a growing number of

people like , are you still seriously thinking it would be just fine to

advocate and sell equipment that can so rapidly do this type of damage to

someone who comes to you desperate for help? - Especially when we ALREADY KNOW

from years of research that the damaging aspects are not only *unnecessary*, but

are also reported by reputable sources to REDUCE effectiveness, to REDUCE the

body's receptiveness? I find it difficult to believe that you would be, in light

of all that's known today, but after your recent postings, I'm sure that others

are left wondering too.

(Sorry to put you on the spot, but between your post, and then 's

desperation call, it became painfully obvious that it's past time, viewed from

his precarious position, to serve up a meal of 'roasted sacred cow'.)

Food for thought...)

I wish each and every one of you the best of results and insights in your

research!!!

Bruce

April 3, 2006

Hi Bil,

It's important you pay attention to Bruce Stenuslon's comments.

If you go transmitting uncontrolled and unknown RF onto people, then you could

be outputting frequencies and harmonics in the mid 400MHz range, and we all know

that stimulates cancer cell growth.

It's important researchers have absolute control over the frequencies and

associated harmonics these machines create.

Regards,

Ken

Re: Re: machine and how it works...? : Quality, not Quantity

may be the key

Bil Green wrote:

> For many people this is a lot of exposure to low power RF (not to

> mention the bombardment from all the transmitting towers). So an

> hour or so with an EMEM and a low power spark doesn't seem so bad

> by comparison. I know, the less RF pollution the better.

It saddens me that you appear to have missed the points of my extensive

article

completely... I certainly have no desire to offend you, so I want to

respectfully suggest that you reread it, and search widely elsewhere for

further

information on the aspects that I might not have expanded upon sufficiently.

>BG " Doesn't Seem Bad By Comparison " ???

I do advocate precautions; the " First, Do No Harm " concept put forth by

Hippocrates has always seemed a valid baseline from which to approach this

research- especially when someone might be contemplating placing experimental

equipment into the hands of health-challenged individuals who's condition may

possibly be *severely compromised* by even one more added 'Stressor Factor'

Maybe someone else can put it simpler words yet... and maybe it's just a

message

that some people simply don't want to consider.

I just got off the phone with from Toronto, however- he called while I

was

trying to compose this message. is one of those unfortunate individuals

who