Re: Need help

[Guest guest]

Why not the Social Butterflies? The names listed

below sound way too cliche. They've been used so

many times before by so many people.

Tara Kimberley Torme

--- sushilbio wrote:

> I am planning to start a group where parents

> would encourage kids get

> together and do homework in their homes. This

> way they learn more and

> good for their self-esteem.

>

> Can anyone suggest some ideas of a cool and

> catchy name for this group

> (e.g. homework club.) that appeals to both boys

> and girls? I like

> the 'study buddy' but I think it will exclude

> girls as buddy is more

> popular among boys, right? Appreeciate it.

>

>

> Suggestions so far:

> IQ Club

> IVY Kids Club

> SKY's The Limit

> Homework Friends

> Study Club

> Study together club

> We can do it together club

> Study buddy club

> Study buddies

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Why not the Social Butterflies? The names listed

below sound way too cliche. They've been used so

many times before by so many people.

Tara Kimberley Torme

--- sushilbio wrote:

> I am planning to start a group where parents

> would encourage kids get

> together and do homework in their homes. This

> way they learn more and

> good for their self-esteem.

>

> Can anyone suggest some ideas of a cool and

> catchy name for this group

> (e.g. homework club.) that appeals to both boys

> and girls? I like

> the 'study buddy' but I think it will exclude

> girls as buddy is more

> popular among boys, right? Appreeciate it.

>

>

> Suggestions so far:

> IQ Club

> IVY Kids Club

> SKY's The Limit

> Homework Friends

> Study Club

> Study together club

> We can do it together club

> Study buddy club

> Study buddies

>

>

>

Tara Kimberley Torme

2061 East 40th Avenue

Vancouver, BC

V5P 1J4

CANADA

Home Phone:

Online Journal: http://blog.myspace.com/aspergergal

The Silent Meow:

The Asperger's Difference:

http://www.aspires-relationships.com/writings_tara__Torme.htm

A Series Of Short Stories & Poems by T K Torme: www.tktorme.com

Asperger_Social_Support email list:

Group home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Asperger_Social_Support

Group email address: Asperger_Social_Support

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Group email address: asperger-socialgooglegroups

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[Guest guest]

I think any of them sound fine. Hope your group is successful.

Debi

[Guest guest]

I think any of them sound fine. Hope your group is successful.

Debi

[Guest guest]

Has something changed at school? Have you talked to her teachers?

Maybe she is being bullied or picked on or just feeling overwhelmed

with classwork.

How long has she been on the Strattera and when did the behavior

change start?

Amnesty

>

> Hello-

>

> I need some advise. My 12 yr old daughter is having a really rough

> time. She normally loves school but has come to hate it. She is

> behaving out of character for herself. Mean and angry too much of the

> time. She won't say what is bothering her. She has lost about 20 lbs

> in the last few months. One of the reasons she lost the weight was

> because she was on respirdol and I took her off and she lost the weight

> she gained from being on it, but she has kept on losing. She is 5 4

> and weighs about 82 lbs. We have an emergency visit with her dr

> today. Last night she threw things at her bedroom door and at us, this

> is not like her. I was able to calm her by giving her a full body hug

> with rocking. She loves the sensation of them together. She is on

> strattera and this at first was amazing she was able to have in depth

> two way conversations with it. She was so happy. But now she isn't

> happy. I want her off of it. I don't want her to lose the

> conversation. ANY IDEAS???!!!!

>

> T-

>

[Guest guest]

Has something changed at school? Have you talked to her teachers?

Maybe she is being bullied or picked on or just feeling overwhelmed

with classwork.

How long has she been on the Strattera and when did the behavior

change start?

Amnesty

>

> Hello-

>

> I need some advise. My 12 yr old daughter is having a really rough

> time. She normally loves school but has come to hate it. She is

> behaving out of character for herself. Mean and angry too much of the

> time. She won't say what is bothering her. She has lost about 20 lbs

> in the last few months. One of the reasons she lost the weight was

> because she was on respirdol and I took her off and she lost the weight

> she gained from being on it, but she has kept on losing. She is 5 4

> and weighs about 82 lbs. We have an emergency visit with her dr

> today. Last night she threw things at her bedroom door and at us, this

> is not like her. I was able to calm her by giving her a full body hug

> with rocking. She loves the sensation of them together. She is on

> strattera and this at first was amazing she was able to have in depth

> two way conversations with it. She was so happy. But now she isn't

> happy. I want her off of it. I don't want her to lose the

> conversation. ANY IDEAS???!!!!

>

> T-

>

[Guest guest]

Amnesty and Amy-

They are nothing is different at school. No new students. I really don't

know what it could be. But she has been acting strange for over a week.

She was mean during her break from school. At first I thought it was

because she wasn't in school, you know the missing of the routine. But when

she freaked out there and then last night too, I felt it was something

more. It could be hormones. She has developed buds almost an a cup and

hair in all the right places . I really don't know. It was so sad last

night holding her tightly and rocking her it reminded off every single night

for the first 4 years of her life, I did that with her.

I want her of the medicine I think that might be part of the problem. She

has been on it for about 3 months but this has been about 2 weeks. She

isn't sleeping either which is normal but she isn't sleeping nearly enough.

Not sure about yeast.... have to look into that. What do you suggest?

>

> Has something changed at school? Have you talked to her teachers?

> Maybe she is being bullied or picked on or just feeling overwhelmed

> with classwork.

> How long has she been on the Strattera and when did the behavior

> change start?

> Amnesty

>

>

> >

> > Hello-

> >

> > I need some advise. My 12 yr old daughter is having a really rough

> > time. She normally loves school but has come to hate it. She is

> > behaving out of character for herself. Mean and angry too much of the

> > time. She won't say what is bothering her. She has lost about 20 lbs

> > in the last few months. One of the reasons she lost the weight was

> > because she was on respirdol and I took her off and she lost the weight

> > she gained from being on it, but she has kept on losing. She is 5 4

> > and weighs about 82 lbs. We have an emergency visit with her dr

> > today. Last night she threw things at her bedroom door and at us, this

> > is not like her. I was able to calm her by giving her a full body hug

> > with rocking. She loves the sensation of them together. She is on

> > strattera and this at first was amazing she was able to have in depth

> > two way conversations with it. She was so happy. But now she isn't

> > happy. I want her off of it. I don't want her to lose the

> > conversation. ANY IDEAS???!!!!

> >

> > T-

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Amnesty and Amy-

They are nothing is different at school. No new students. I really don't

know what it could be. But she has been acting strange for over a week.

She was mean during her break from school. At first I thought it was

because she wasn't in school, you know the missing of the routine. But when

she freaked out there and then last night too, I felt it was something

more. It could be hormones. She has developed buds almost an a cup and

hair in all the right places . I really don't know. It was so sad last

night holding her tightly and rocking her it reminded off every single night

for the first 4 years of her life, I did that with her.

I want her of the medicine I think that might be part of the problem. She

has been on it for about 3 months but this has been about 2 weeks. She

isn't sleeping either which is normal but she isn't sleeping nearly enough.

Not sure about yeast.... have to look into that. What do you suggest?

>

> Has something changed at school? Have you talked to her teachers?

> Maybe she is being bullied or picked on or just feeling overwhelmed

> with classwork.

> How long has she been on the Strattera and when did the behavior

> change start?

> Amnesty

>

>

> >

> > Hello-

> >

> > I need some advise. My 12 yr old daughter is having a really rough

> > time. She normally loves school but has come to hate it. She is

> > behaving out of character for herself. Mean and angry too much of the

> > time. She won't say what is bothering her. She has lost about 20 lbs

> > in the last few months. One of the reasons she lost the weight was

> > because she was on respirdol and I took her off and she lost the weight

> > she gained from being on it, but she has kept on losing. She is 5 4

> > and weighs about 82 lbs. We have an emergency visit with her dr

> > today. Last night she threw things at her bedroom door and at us, this

> > is not like her. I was able to calm her by giving her a full body hug

> > with rocking. She loves the sensation of them together. She is on

> > strattera and this at first was amazing she was able to have in depth

> > two way conversations with it. She was so happy. But now she isn't

> > happy. I want her off of it. I don't want her to lose the

> > conversation. ANY IDEAS???!!!!

> >

> > T-

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Has she been sick? Has anyone around her had strep throat? Sometimes a

virus (like strep, for example) will cause " personality " changes and

regressions, and children on the autism spectrum don't realize they are

sick. Last night, Alyssa was swallowing hard, I think she had a sore

throat, but she was not aware of it to tell me. She did complain to me

of a headache (and this morning she has two pink eyes).

> >

> > Hello-

> >

> > I need some advise. My 12 yr old daughter is having a really rough

> > time. She normally loves school but has come to hate it. She is

> > behaving out of character for herself. Mean and angry too much of

the

> > time. She won't say what is bothering her. She has lost about 20 lbs

> > in the last few months. One of the reasons she lost the weight was

> > because she was on respirdol and I took her off and she lost the

weight

> > she gained from being on it, but she has kept on losing. She is 5 4

> > and weighs about 82 lbs. We have an emergency visit with her dr

> > today. Last night she threw things at her bedroom door and at us,

this

> > is not like her. I was able to calm her by giving her a full body

hug

> > with rocking. She loves the sensation of them together. She is on

> > strattera and this at first was amazing she was able to have in

depth

> > two way conversations with it. She was so happy. But now she isn't

> > happy. I want her off of it. I don't want her to lose the

> > conversation. ANY IDEAS???!!!!

> >

> > T-

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Has she been sick? Has anyone around her had strep throat? Sometimes a

virus (like strep, for example) will cause " personality " changes and

regressions, and children on the autism spectrum don't realize they are

sick. Last night, Alyssa was swallowing hard, I think she had a sore

throat, but she was not aware of it to tell me. She did complain to me

of a headache (and this morning she has two pink eyes).

> >

> > Hello-

> >

> > I need some advise. My 12 yr old daughter is having a really rough

> > time. She normally loves school but has come to hate it. She is

> > behaving out of character for herself. Mean and angry too much of

the

> > time. She won't say what is bothering her. She has lost about 20 lbs

> > in the last few months. One of the reasons she lost the weight was

> > because she was on respirdol and I took her off and she lost the

weight

> > she gained from being on it, but she has kept on losing. She is 5 4

> > and weighs about 82 lbs. We have an emergency visit with her dr

> > today. Last night she threw things at her bedroom door and at us,

this

> > is not like her. I was able to calm her by giving her a full body

hug

> > with rocking. She loves the sensation of them together. She is on

> > strattera and this at first was amazing she was able to have in

depth

> > two way conversations with it. She was so happy. But now she isn't

> > happy. I want her off of it. I don't want her to lose the

> > conversation. ANY IDEAS???!!!!

> >

> > T-

> >

>

[Guest guest]

if the stimulant is of causing severe health factors then it is of not

a good match even though you seen of the gains in the begin but if it

is of not lasting then it is of not a good match.

Sondra

[Guest guest]

if the stimulant is of causing severe health factors then it is of not

a good match even though you seen of the gains in the begin but if it

is of not lasting then it is of not a good match.

Sondra

[Guest guest]

if she is of trying to avoid of school it may be because if she is of

not feeling well the day is of too long for her. she may need of a

reduced day for a time to get back to feeling better. we had of to do

that with my very HF (high functioning) AS son. he did not go to school

until 3 hours past the normal time to go.

sondra

[Guest guest]

if she is of trying to avoid of school it may be because if she is of

not feeling well the day is of too long for her. she may need of a

reduced day for a time to get back to feeling better. we had of to do

that with my very HF (high functioning) AS son. he did not go to school

until 3 hours past the normal time to go.

sondra

[Guest guest]

She has not been sick, but like you said we don't always know when they

are. I am not feeling well, have just started feeling sick, wonder if she

has been sick and that's where I got it. She has never had strep. I always

had it, I think I carry it.

Maybe she is sick, that's why she is so skinny, could it be something

besides strep?

>

>

> Has she been sick? Has anyone around her had strep throat? Sometimes a

> virus (like strep, for example) will cause " personality " changes and

> regressions, and children on the autism spectrum don't realize they are

> sick. Last night, Alyssa was swallowing hard, I think she had a sore

> throat, but she was not aware of it to tell me. She did complain to me

> of a headache (and this morning she has two pink eyes).

>

>

> > >

> > > Hello-

> > >

> > > I need some advise. My 12 yr old daughter is having a really rough

> > > time. She normally loves school but has come to hate it. She is

> > > behaving out of character for herself. Mean and angry too much of

> the

> > > time. She won't say what is bothering her. She has lost about 20 lbs

> > > in the last few months. One of the reasons she lost the weight was

> > > because she was on respirdol and I took her off and she lost the

> weight

> > > she gained from being on it, but she has kept on losing. She is 5 4

> > > and weighs about 82 lbs. We have an emergency visit with her dr

> > > today. Last night she threw things at her bedroom door and at us,

> this

> > > is not like her. I was able to calm her by giving her a full body

> hug

> > > with rocking. She loves the sensation of them together. She is on

> > > strattera and this at first was amazing she was able to have in

> depth

> > > two way conversations with it. She was so happy. But now she isn't

> > > happy. I want her off of it. I don't want her to lose the

> > > conversation. ANY IDEAS???!!!!

> > >

> > > T-

> > >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

She has not been sick, but like you said we don't always know when they

are. I am not feeling well, have just started feeling sick, wonder if she

has been sick and that's where I got it. She has never had strep. I always

had it, I think I carry it.

Maybe she is sick, that's why she is so skinny, could it be something

besides strep?

>

>

> Has she been sick? Has anyone around her had strep throat? Sometimes a

> virus (like strep, for example) will cause " personality " changes and

> regressions, and children on the autism spectrum don't realize they are

> sick. Last night, Alyssa was swallowing hard, I think she had a sore

> throat, but she was not aware of it to tell me. She did complain to me

> of a headache (and this morning she has two pink eyes).

>

>

> > >

> > > Hello-

> > >

> > > I need some advise. My 12 yr old daughter is having a really rough

> > > time. She normally loves school but has come to hate it. She is

> > > behaving out of character for herself. Mean and angry too much of

> the

> > > time. She won't say what is bothering her. She has lost about 20 lbs

> > > in the last few months. One of the reasons she lost the weight was

> > > because she was on respirdol and I took her off and she lost the

> weight

> > > she gained from being on it, but she has kept on losing. She is 5 4

> > > and weighs about 82 lbs. We have an emergency visit with her dr

> > > today. Last night she threw things at her bedroom door and at us,

> this

> > > is not like her. I was able to calm her by giving her a full body

> hug

> > > with rocking. She loves the sensation of them together. She is on

> > > strattera and this at first was amazing she was able to have in

> depth

> > > two way conversations with it. She was so happy. But now she isn't

> > > happy. I want her off of it. I don't want her to lose the

> > > conversation. ANY IDEAS???!!!!

> > >

> > > T-

> > >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree, and I want her off of it. I need to find out if I can cold turkey

her or if I have to take her off slowly.

She isn't sleeping so she may not want to go to school so early. When she

does fall asleep it is usually in the am hours so getting up at 7 am isn't

fun for her.

>

> if the stimulant is of causing severe health factors then it is of not

> a good match even though you seen of the gains in the begin but if it

> is of not lasting then it is of not a good match.

> Sondra

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree, and I want her off of it. I need to find out if I can cold turkey

her or if I have to take her off slowly.

She isn't sleeping so she may not want to go to school so early. When she

does fall asleep it is usually in the am hours so getting up at 7 am isn't

fun for her.

>

> if the stimulant is of causing severe health factors then it is of not

> a good match even though you seen of the gains in the begin but if it

> is of not lasting then it is of not a good match.

> Sondra

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

look at her throat, for starters. you might even take her to the doc to

have a look in her ears.

and yes, she could lose weight if she's not eating because her throat is

too sore to swallow

>

> She has not been sick, but like you said we don't always know when

they

> are. I am not feeling well, have just started feeling sick, wonder if

she

> has been sick and that's where I got it. She has never had strep. I

always

> had it, I think I carry it.

>

> Maybe she is sick, that's why she is so skinny, could it be something

> besides strep?

[Guest guest]

look at her throat, for starters. you might even take her to the doc to

have a look in her ears.

and yes, she could lose weight if she's not eating because her throat is

too sore to swallow

>

> She has not been sick, but like you said we don't always know when

they

> are. I am not feeling well, have just started feeling sick, wonder if

she

> has been sick and that's where I got it. She has never had strep. I

always

> had it, I think I carry it.

>

> Maybe she is sick, that's why she is so skinny, could it be something

> besides strep?

[Guest guest]

My daughter had streph really bad and we didn't know until it got more advanced.

She also had a UTI which turned into a kidney infection and she didn't really

show any signs of it. It is amazing to me that she can be in real pain and not

be aware of it, although brushing her hair and teeth is such a battle because

that causes her pain. Looking back though, she did have behavioral changes.

Gwen

Re: Need help

Has she been sick? Has anyone around her had strep throat? Sometimes a

virus (like strep, for example) will cause " personality " changes and

regressions, and children on the autism spectrum don't realize they are

sick. Last night, Alyssa was swallowing hard, I think she had a sore

throat, but she was not aware of it to tell me. She did complain to me

of a headache (and this morning she has two pink eyes).

> >

> > Hello-

> >

> > I need some advise. My 12 yr old daughter is having a really rough

> > time. She normally loves school but has come to hate it. She is

> > behaving out of character for herself. Mean and angry too much of

the

> > time. She won't say what is bothering her. She has lost about 20 lbs

> > in the last few months. One of the reasons she lost the weight was

> > because she was on respirdol and I took her off and she lost the

weight

> > she gained from being on it, but she has kept on losing. She is 5 4

> > and weighs about 82 lbs. We have an emergency visit with her dr

> > today. Last night she threw things at her bedroom door and at us,

this

> > is not like her. I was able to calm her by giving her a full body

hug

> > with rocking. She loves the sensation of them together. She is on

> > strattera and this at first was amazing she was able to have in

depth

> > two way conversations with it. She was so happy. But now she isn't

> > happy. I want her off of it. I don't want her to lose the

> > conversation. ANY IDEAS???!!!!

> >

> > T-

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My daughter had streph really bad and we didn't know until it got more advanced.

She also had a UTI which turned into a kidney infection and she didn't really

show any signs of it. It is amazing to me that she can be in real pain and not

be aware of it, although brushing her hair and teeth is such a battle because

that causes her pain. Looking back though, she did have behavioral changes.

Gwen

Re: Need help

Has she been sick? Has anyone around her had strep throat? Sometimes a

virus (like strep, for example) will cause " personality " changes and

regressions, and children on the autism spectrum don't realize they are

sick. Last night, Alyssa was swallowing hard, I think she had a sore

throat, but she was not aware of it to tell me. She did complain to me

of a headache (and this morning she has two pink eyes).

> >

> > Hello-

> >

> > I need some advise. My 12 yr old daughter is having a really rough

> > time. She normally loves school but has come to hate it. She is

> > behaving out of character for herself. Mean and angry too much of

the

> > time. She won't say what is bothering her. She has lost about 20 lbs

> > in the last few months. One of the reasons she lost the weight was

> > because she was on respirdol and I took her off and she lost the

weight

> > she gained from being on it, but she has kept on losing. She is 5 4

> > and weighs about 82 lbs. We have an emergency visit with her dr

> > today. Last night she threw things at her bedroom door and at us,

this

> > is not like her. I was able to calm her by giving her a full body

hug

> > with rocking. She loves the sensation of them together. She is on

> > strattera and this at first was amazing she was able to have in

depth

> > two way conversations with it. She was so happy. But now she isn't

> > happy. I want her off of it. I don't want her to lose the

> > conversation. ANY IDEAS???!!!!

> >

> > T-

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Illness plays a big role in behavior--I am not the only mom I know who

took a toddler to the doctor because behavior changed so drastically,

(sometimes a meltdown out of NOwhere) although the child was still

eating, sleeping, pooping, normally, something wasn't " right " , and sure

enough, when the doctor looked into the child's ears, the child had a

raging ear infection.

Parents file that information away and the next time that behavior pops

up, they often begin to watch really closely for ear-pulling or other

signs of ear pain, and if the child pulls on the ear, the parent will

spotlight that awareness for the child, saying something like, " point to

where it hurts " or " does your ear hurt? " and via a relationship between

two people, this " co-awareness " begins to grow, and it becomes a later

foundation for self-awareness, the kind that we parents wait eagerly

for, the kind where the kid is able to initiate, and will come to us,

identify where it hurts, and we cut down on those trips to the doctor

because something isn't " right " and we go in with more concrete

information about where the pain is.

In autism, as our kids grow older, that " where it hurts " self-awareness

doesn't seem to register in an age appropriate way in some children. I

have often wondered as we have been using Relationship Development

Intervention if that time of parent identifying a child's pain and

pointing it out to him/her, spotlighting it for them, is a developmental

step in helping them to later be able to identify it alone. I still

notice Alyssa swallowing hard before she initiates and tells me she has

a sore throat, but if it's really sore, she can point to it when I ask

her to point to where it hurts. She can id headaches and tummy aches

more quickly for some reason.

I was so frustrated for one local family who posted on a local yahoo

group that their son was swishing saliva around in his mouth, and the

ABA clinic he attended had begun to put the behavior " on extinction " . I

e-mailed her and asked her to take him to the doctor to check him for

strep throat, and she immediately e-mailed me back and said that his

sibling had strep at the time. She took him to the doctor that day,

YEP, STREP, and the behavior disappeared. I was frustrated that the

clinic saw it as a behavior to be extinguished instead of a possible

sign of something viral.

Penny

>

> My daughter had streph really bad and we didn't know until it got more

advanced. She also had a UTI which turned into a kidney infection and

she didn't really show any signs of it. It is amazing to me that she can

be in real pain and not be aware of it, although brushing her hair and

teeth is such a battle because that causes her pain. Looking back

though, she did have behavioral changes. Gwen

> ----- Original Message -----

[Guest guest]

Illness plays a big role in behavior--I am not the only mom I know who

took a toddler to the doctor because behavior changed so drastically,

(sometimes a meltdown out of NOwhere) although the child was still

eating, sleeping, pooping, normally, something wasn't " right " , and sure

enough, when the doctor looked into the child's ears, the child had a

raging ear infection.

Parents file that information away and the next time that behavior pops

up, they often begin to watch really closely for ear-pulling or other

signs of ear pain, and if the child pulls on the ear, the parent will

spotlight that awareness for the child, saying something like, " point to

where it hurts " or " does your ear hurt? " and via a relationship between

two people, this " co-awareness " begins to grow, and it becomes a later

foundation for self-awareness, the kind that we parents wait eagerly

for, the kind where the kid is able to initiate, and will come to us,

identify where it hurts, and we cut down on those trips to the doctor

because something isn't " right " and we go in with more concrete

information about where the pain is.

In autism, as our kids grow older, that " where it hurts " self-awareness

doesn't seem to register in an age appropriate way in some children. I

have often wondered as we have been using Relationship Development

Intervention if that time of parent identifying a child's pain and

pointing it out to him/her, spotlighting it for them, is a developmental

step in helping them to later be able to identify it alone. I still

notice Alyssa swallowing hard before she initiates and tells me she has

a sore throat, but if it's really sore, she can point to it when I ask

her to point to where it hurts. She can id headaches and tummy aches

more quickly for some reason.

I was so frustrated for one local family who posted on a local yahoo

group that their son was swishing saliva around in his mouth, and the

ABA clinic he attended had begun to put the behavior " on extinction " . I

e-mailed her and asked her to take him to the doctor to check him for

strep throat, and she immediately e-mailed me back and said that his

sibling had strep at the time. She took him to the doctor that day,

YEP, STREP, and the behavior disappeared. I was frustrated that the

clinic saw it as a behavior to be extinguished instead of a possible

sign of something viral.

Penny

>

> My daughter had streph really bad and we didn't know until it got more

advanced. She also had a UTI which turned into a kidney infection and

she didn't really show any signs of it. It is amazing to me that she can

be in real pain and not be aware of it, although brushing her hair and

teeth is such a battle because that causes her pain. Looking back

though, she did have behavioral changes. Gwen

> ----- Original Message -----

[Guest guest]

>

> I was so frustrated for one local family who posted on a local yahoo

> group that their son was swishing saliva around in his mouth, and the

> ABA clinic he attended had begun to put the behavior " on extinction " . I

> e-mailed her and asked her to take him to the doctor to check him for

> strep throat, and she immediately e-mailed me back and said that his

> sibling had strep at the time. She took him to the doctor that day,

> YEP, STREP, and the behavior disappeared. I was frustrated that the

> clinic saw it as a behavior to be extinguished instead of a possible

> sign of something viral.

>

> Penny

>

Oh, that drives me NUTS! ALWAYS look for physical causes first

(including illness, allergies, and reactions to medications), changes

in the environment/routine next, and THEN other causes for new

behaviors. Of course, I'm also the type of person who wouldn't target

a behavior like saliva swishing with a behavior plan unless the

parents REALLY wanted me to.

Amnesty