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[Guest guest]

Sure Frances! It's quite fascinating. As it's quite involved, though, I am

explain it in probably the most uneducated way possible and how I understand

it.

It works on the principle of the meridians and I think it also goes by your

electrical processes aura (for want of a better word). (Everything and

everyone has an electrical charge either negative or positive - right down

to the tiniest atom.)

You're first tested for allergies, normally in one batch of things at a

time. The allergies can be everything from milk to microwaves.

Once the practitioner has established some allergies/allergy she/he goes on

to " treat " that allergy. This part I don't know exactly what is done as I

had to go out of the room, (as my electrical charge could effect the

treatment) but it is simular to dealing with pressure points, while the

patient holds a vial of what they are allergic to (or having same electrical

charge as).

The practitioner goes out of the room and the patient has to remain there

for 20 minutes or so.

The patient cannot touch, smell, eat etc that " thing " for 25 hours.

For example. When my son was treated for chicken, he had to stay completely

away from chicken, eggs, etc and wasn't to sleep with a feather pillow or

doona that night.

I know of someone who had very bad rashes and they all disappeared within

the 25 hours! She was treated for microwaves, she had to stay away from

mobile phone, sun, TV, computer for 25 hours - boy that one would be hard!

Smiles,

JK

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From: Frances [mailto:fnokes@...]

I noticed tha celebrated some positive results with NAET.

Up here in Winnipeg, a local herbologist was sharing his latest venture with

us, and, if I am not mistaken it was NAET. We are wondering whether to try

this service at some point. Apparently, it tests the functioning of

systems, organs, etc.

Could you elaborate on the process that worked so well for your son (I

believe it was), ?

Thanks.

Frances

[Guest guest]

Yes, well I must say I am very uneducated in how it works - I just know that

it works!!

JK

NAET

Thanks for the info on your child's NAET experience.

Sounds like radical improvements can occur for some.

I wonder...

Thought the equipment and testing that we were shown sounds similar; but, I

wonder if it can be used differently, because the part I remember was where

you use the equipment to focus on the body/body systems/organs, in order to

uncover areas of difficulty... Perhaps, I will finally get down there one

day and then I can let you know what it was that he has been working with!

Frances

[Guest guest]

have you had a ddi hair test done. its all about minerals so it can

be very helpful

..85mcg/lb selenomethione alternated daily with methyselenocysteine

is a great help with metals issues. zinc also.

naet can be a bit flaky.

> can someone recommend an NAET practitioner in the NYC area

> that has had good results with their child or with a mercury

> poisoned adult? i am a mercury poisoned adult with many food

> allergies/intolerances. i'm in the middle of chelating with ALA

> and dmps (so far, chelated 3months with just dmps; 3 months

> ALA and dmps). would like to add more foods into my very

> restricted diet and was thinking of trying NAET.

>

> would love advice....andy has said to make sure i find someone

> who uses acupuncture. the NAET site itself says acupuncture is

> not necessary---acupressure is also very effective. does anyone

> have firsthand experience with this? (either good or bad)

>

> thanks! julie

[Guest guest]

,I've had NAET treatments by practitioners in CA and now WA. Both use a

combo of acupuncture and acupressure (the one here uses the thinner needles).

The one in CA used muscle testing (AK), the one here uses pulses. Both were

very open to having me suggest what substances to check and amazed that all

except one I requested were ones to which I did react. So far all treatments

have " taken " the first time. The one here is also willing to do combo

treatments (several substances in combination). I recently started going to her

again (since insurance company got sued and required to allow self-referrals for

acupuncture) and go back the 10th. S (adult survivor of mercury poisoning,

still dealing with arsenic and antimony) & gt; can someone recommend an NAET practitioner in the NYC

area & gt; that has had good results with their child or with a mercury & gt;

poisoned adult & gt; & gt; would love advice....andy ha

s said to make sure i find someone & gt; who uses acupuncture. the NAET site

itself says acupuncture is & gt; not necessary---acupressure is also very

effective. does anyone & gt; have firsthand experience with this? (either good or

bad) & gt; & gt; thanks! julie

[Guest guest]

> can someone recommend an NAET practitioner in the NYC area

> that has had good results with their child or with a mercury

> poisoned adult? i am a mercury poisoned adult with many food

> allergies/intolerances. i'm in the middle of chelating with ALA

> and dmps (so far, chelated 3months with just dmps; 3 months

> ALA and dmps). would like to add more foods into my very

> restricted diet and was thinking of trying NAET.

>

> would love advice....andy has said to make sure i find someone

> who uses acupuncture. the NAET site itself says acupuncture is

> not necessary---acupressure is also very effective.

Which is why all the chiropractors who learn it stop using it in a

couple of years.

Devi uses acupuncture in her office. If she said it only worked with

acupuncture, 95% of her class attendees couldn't do it (their licenses

don't let them use needles) so her class enrollment would collapse.

> does anyone

> have firsthand experience with this? (either good or bad)

This is my direct personal experience and that of several people I

know. For adults, the acupuressure treatments blow up in 1-2 years

and you're more allergic than before, the acupuncture treatments last.

Andy . .. . . . . .

[Guest guest]

I would like to try NAET but here are my hesitations: First how do you know your getting a good practitioner, and how expensive is it. If your going several times a week it can add up, and at this point my insurance won't cover it. I tried acupuncture for over four months with no results. Are they treating you for your allergy to Asprin?

B

on 5/30/03 5:59 PM, s at tkimages@... wrote:

I am back from vacation, I've gotten caught up so today I got caught up on

my e-mail. There was quite a lot of information! It was great.

There is so much information and discussion on GERD that to me I think it

is another part of Samters. I think it is more what Lori found out - an

allergic stomach. I myself had irritable bowel diagnosis and many stomach

problems before. Since so little is known about Samters isn't it very

possible that this is just one more symptom that is related to Samters?

I was disapointed that there wasn't more response to my short history

article. Did everyone recieve it? I did see where Tami mentioned my

article I think about how she would rather have surgery than life style

changes and how Anne also said how she understands how she feels. She was

overwhelmed with daily life alone.

Yes, it is difficult, very difficult to change. But you can do baby steps

and slowly change. It doesn't have to be all at once. How I see it is

that medicines and surgeries don't solve the underlying problems, the

cause. They cover up the cause or remove the problems caused by it but

they don't really cure you. The Feingold diet doesn't cure the cause but

you avoid the cause so your body can heal. NAET does cure the cause even

though it takes time. The way I look at it is I can spend years being ill

and getting worse or spend years getting well. I'd rather work to get

well.

Yes, it is difficult to change. But it is also very difficult to be ill.

Yes, when you feel ill it is difficult to do anything much less something

new. But the steps, baby steps can lead you to feeling better which leads

to more energy to do more to feel well. It is an upward spiral.

, you are on the Feingold diet. Is it worth it? Has it helped? It

sounds like you have gotten through the hard part - the beginning. What do

you think about it?

I don't think this is a rare disease. I read from two sources - one said

between 10 - 20% of all asthmatics have Samters (the article about

melatonin from I believe) and another article said 20%. Dr.

son of Scripps told Lori 15%. I think this is true. I was surprised

to read in an article from Anne that this illness was diagnosed in the

early 1900's by Dr. Widal and that Dr. Samter's worked on it in the 1960's.

Yet, most Doctors don't seem to know anything about it. I think it is

true that if you take every person who has any symptom of Samters it would

be 15%. And it has to be a lot of people if there are warnings on every

aspirin related medicine to not take it if you are allergic to aspirin.

According to Dr. son at Scripps 2.5 million people in the US and 30

million world wide are looking for an answer to this problem. This is big!

And we as a group working together could find the answer. Perhaps it is

so unknown because no one has the answer.

I am still improving and getting better every day using NAET. Yet, I feel

so alone. I thought if anyone would be interested in what I found out,

this group would be. Yet, only one person, has taken any action.

Why? Should I even try to get the word out if none of you are interested?

What I am doing is working! I feel good every day. I can hear every day.

I don't have nightmares, difficulty talking, asthma attacks, pollyps and

so many other problems. My energy is increasing every day. And, I found a

solution to my osteoperosis. (caused my Dr. says by cortisone) I went to

a Naturopathic Dr. who gave me Ipriflavone Plus. She said tests done in

Europe has shown bones build back up using this in a year with no side

effects! You take six pills a day. This was done with much older women

than I.

I understand your hesitation. NAET is so strange, so different. It truly

takes a new way of looking at illness and healing. I myself heard about it

three times before I took any action. We are so trained to believe in our

traditional Doctors and that anything different doesn't work. Yet, there

are all kinds of other treatments going on out there that are having great

results!

I will understand if you take no action. I know this is all so different

and so strange.

To Jim (Snotmeister) - don't give up. I have had Doctors tell me my

hearing loss was permanent, my thyroid was just going to die - all kinds of

things. But they were wrong. You can find a cure I believe. Yes,

acceptance is helpful too but you never need to give up I don't think.

Yes, it is easier to take a pill, to have surgery, to go to Scripps. Yet,

as Ken says, none of them appear to be the " magic bullet " . Lori says she's

a dreamer waiting for a magic wand. But maybe the wand is here! People

say you have to work for things worth while. Isn't your health worth a lot

of work? It takes so much effort to work to survive when you are sick.

I think we could do a test and see if these things are the answer. I guess

if no one is interested I will continue to try to send my article out and

to help others who need it. But I'd rather not do it alone.

[Guest guest]

I've had NAET done in CA and WA. I just scheduled another visit, opting to pay

for it myself rather than find a doc through my insurance to refer me to the

practitioner to whom I already go (I've used up the 5 visit they allow per yr

without a referral). I figure while I'm at it I'll ask her to order a DDI hair

analysis (I had my last over a yr and a half ago) and get the provider requested

discount this time since I'm paying for the visit to her.

S

>

List:<BR>

Has anyone used NAET with good results?<BR>

If so, e-mail me privately.<BR>

Thanks.<BR>

Jacquie<BR>

<BR>

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[Guest guest]

Its a theapy to minimize or eliminate allergies. There was a post

from on A-M giving the instructions for it without the

accupuncture part of it.

From what I read, (very simplified) she holds the allergen in a

glass jar, and using certain breathing techniques, along with

someone applying pressure to different pressure points along the

back. I cant remeber off hand what NAET stands for. I am surprised

to hear alot of people saying it cured acute allergies, but I alas

have. I havent tried it yet... I might on hy husband.

> >I am in the middle of reading books on NAET >right now, and I can

start reading after that.

>

> What's NAET?

> TIA

> Prue

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Uta, (all new members and everyone)

I wanted to get back to you about NAET. Here you are asking these

questions and I was so slow to respond! My husband was traveling so much

that I got depressed and everything got behind. In response he said no to

more traveling at work so soon I was back to normal except then everywhere

I was overwhelmed. Now, I'm finally catching up on my e-mails. Yes, you

can have the salicylate foods after treatment. I was allergic to plums,

tangerines, tomatoes and so many other foods that are salicylates that I

can now have. It is so fun! Yes, you can get treated for aspirin - but I

would wait till you are doing really well and OK on lots of other things to

be sure you don't have a bad reaction. I have been treated for it.

NAET is like nothing else you've ever heard of. The Dr. uses muscle

response testing. Some Doctors use a computer or machine I have heard but

my Dr. does the testing herself. She can test for lots of things that a

machine can't. You lie on the table and hold up your arm and the Dr. tests

that all is OK. On rare occations she has found my body out of balance and

then the testing won't work so then she does some accupressure type of

treatment and then I'm OK. Then you hold what is being tested and the Dr.

presses your arm. If you are strong you aren't allergic, if you can't

resist then you are allergic. Then she checks which area is affected by

pressing the lung meridian or heart meridian and she can tell which area is

a problem. I know this sounds really wierd but I tell you if I'm allergic

to something my arm is not strong and I can't resist the pressure. It is

so wierd - it really works. Once you react to something the Dr. gives you

a treatment. You turn onto your stomach and they do accupresse on your

back. Then you need to avoid that food for 25 hours. Then you are cured!

I always wait to have the food till after my next appointment when my Dr.

checks that the treatment works. Sometimes you are allergic to different

component of that allergen and you need more treatments for it but in the

majority of cases one treatment is enough. Once the food is OK I go buy it

and it is so fun. This is called energy medicine. Allergies cause

blockages in your energy meridians and this treatment clears the blockages.

After the blockage is cleared and stays cleared for 25 hours then it is

like it retrains your body that this item is not a threat to you. My

Doctor could explain this much better I'm sure.

All the problems everyone is talking about - loss of hearing, nasal polyps,

being tired, being congested in the morning, headaches, up all night being

sick, being dependent on cortisone, the rude Doctors who don't seem to know

anything so often - all the serious, horrible samters problems I have had.

And they are all cured with this treatment. In addition, another

auto-immune illness where my body was attacking my blood platelets is gone

- a bonus! All the bruises on my arms and legs are gone and my blood tests

are now normal. I am beginning to be able to smell off and on. This is a

treatment where you don't have to worry if a medicine you are taking is

being discontinued. It is a treatment that can prevent polyps in your

sinuses and your ears and I belive it can heal them. You don't have to

take aspirin every day for it to work. And this treatment has an

interesting way of looking at the 3 - 5 AM problem of being up and having

it be the worse time of the day for you. 2 - 4 AM is the liver meridian

time and 4 - 6 is the lung meridian time. Feeling ill at these times they

say means these meridians are blocked.

I am still on the Feingold diet to be sure I don't have any artificial

ingredients. I have not been treated for those yet. I am still getting

treated for other things. Right now I am getting treated for my

hypothyroid. My Dr. says my body is having an auto immune response to my

thyroid and attacking it also like it did my platelets. I'm expecting that

this treatment can work well too. I just do what she thinks is a good idea

- she has always done so well in the past.

As I have followed the all natural possiblities of healing I have been

finding out more and more information. I started a vegan diet because I

kept reading how much better it is for you. Then I felt all alone on my

vegan diet so I checked out Amazon.com and found two great vegan recipe

books and a book called The Vegan Diet. In this book I found that there is

a group called Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine. This is a

group of doctors, nurses, dietitians, researchers and other concerned

citizens who are successfuly working toward dietary prevention of America's

chronic diseases whose membership has grown to 10,000. These are diseases

listed in this book caused by a " rich " Western diet : allergies,

arthritis, atherosclerosis, adult diabetes, gout, heart attacks, hormone

imbalance, hypertension, kidney failure, kidney stones, MS, obesity,

osteoperosis, strokes, appendicitis, colitis, constipation, diarrhea,

diverticulosis, gallstones, gastritis, hemorrhoids, hiatus hernia,

indigestion, malabsorption, polyps, ulcers, and finally breast, colon,

kidney, pancreas, prostrate, testicle and uterus cancers! Imagine all the

problems that could be prevented! And this isn't all - not only can they

be prevented but also cured or greatly improved with this diet! In a test

of 25 patients with bronchial asthma who were put on a vegan diet 71%

showed improvement within four months and 92% improvement after one year.

This book also gives you the four food groups for a vegan: 3 or more

servings of fruits, 5 or more servings of grains, 3 or more servings of

vegetables, 2 or more servings of legumes. This explains why the mucusless

diet and the hallelujah diet caused problems - they don't give these daily

needs. Yet, people in our samters group who fast or follow these two diets

feel better. So, I think the vegan diet is the answer. I want to follow

it also simply for all the other benefits. Maybe a group of us could agree

to test this idea. I can say that since I've become a vegan the

breathlessness I had has gone away and I'm beginning to be able to smell.

I have also gotten a new book called Meditation Made Easy. This book is

great. Just the first idea was wonderful. Take a breath and hold it. The

author says it feels great. I tried it and thought I don't feel anything.

But then I kept doing it. He is right. It does feel so great. Try it

yourself and see what you think. The ideas in this book are very fun and

very good for you.

I think these three ideas - a vegan diet as the optimum way to nourish your

body, meditation to handle stress and NAET to treat any allergies you have

is the answer for us. I know I keep coming up with ideas but I think these

ideas are truly the answer. I don't think medicine is the answer for

chronic illnesses. Medicine simply covers up the symptoms but they are

still there. When they aren't addressed other problems show up later.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for all the info, .

So you are able to take aspirin now?

Thanks

Lori

[Guest guest]

Dear Lori,

No, I don't take aspirin. I have been treated for aspirin itself and for

emotional issues with aspirin (called NET) but I have more emotional issues

to work on and I'm having fun getting treated for foods. I guess this is

silly since maybe if I'm OK with aspirin the other food issues will go

away. Or, will the allergies still be there as an effect from the aspirin

allergy? I'm not sure. It's all confusing but it is working! NET is

amazing too (which my Dr. does also). I had some emotional issues with my

sister. I told my Dr. I was acting like I was 10 years old. She told me

that maybe I was 10. She said maybe there was something from our past we

weren't over. She gave me one treatment and I have been fine with my

sister since! It was involved with all these issues that came up that I

didn't even remember but it worked! Even if I got fully treated for

aspirin I don't know if I would take it. It would be scary which is

probably the emotional issue that I have left. I know this is all so

different - such different ideas but it is so fun because it works!

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[Guest guest]

Can someone tell more a little more about NAET? Is this when your

holding the substance your allergic to in a vial in one hand while

the doctor pushes down on your other arm?

How can this help? I really am interested but I am having trouble

seeing how this can work. I want to learn more.

Thanks!

Deb :0)

> Regarding eczema, NAET has eliminated eczema in both my boys (3.5yr

> and

> 21 month). >>

>

> Newbie on the loop here - got our first NAET treatments almost two

> years ago. Before I took Jordie in for treatments, he didn't talk,

he

> screamed all the time, and had multiple meltdowns per day. His

> biggest allergies were wheat, dairy, and b vitamins. Fast forward

to

> almost two years later, he talks, somewhat interacts with his

> siblings, and the meltdowns are much fewer and farther between. I

> divide my life between before and after NAET, it has made THE

biggest

> difference. He used to have a rash all over his arms and face (the

> beginning of eczema, I'm told), that isn't totally gone but it is

> much, much better. I'm sure as we continue the process of allergy

> treatments that it will eventually go away.

>

> Regarding laundry soap - I have had a lot of success with Bio Kleen

> laundry soap.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Deb,

books by Ellen Cutler and Dr. Nambutripod (sp?) give info on NAET

Robin

[Guest guest]

Naet did not help . We did everything we were told to do faithfully for

8 months.

Robin

[Guest guest]

Hi There

The better alternative is to buy " The Food Allergy Cure " by Ellen

Cutler - this book will teach you how to do Bioset (a form of NAET,

very similar, bioset has 19 accupuressure points to remember and

doesn't require 25 hour food avoidances). Once you get practiced

with it buy the vials from http://www.wellzymes.com and get treating.

I'm not saying don't go to a NAET practioner. They can teach you how

to do the back massaging part and can muscle test properly (I still

can't do this) so you know what intolerances you are dealing with. A

combination of treatments at home and a practioner is the best thing

to do.

But it's better to have the vials at home and treat daily. My ASD

son needs atleast 4 treatments per vial to pass it, so it is very

difficult and expensive to do this any other way other than at home.

Donna

Australia

> Could we do an informal poll? How many parents have tried NAET.

About 1/2 way done with the material I pulled on it, but I'm more

curious about parent/child experiences with this treatment. I haven't

come across anything negative regarding it, which makes me nervous.

Even enzymes, albeit falsely accused, got a bad rap from some. The

enzymes are doing wonders for food intolerances, but can't quite seem

to get that gut healed to the degree casein and gluten aren't an

issue. I've heard about intolerances developing to the degree that

the very things that are supposed to be healing the gut, the body is

actually fighting with. Anyone willing to share, I'd be grateful.

Plus, what do you guys think about the Walsh metallothionein theory?

It would seem the protocol Dr. Megson has us on fairly closely mimics

what Walsh suggests parents do to increase metallothionein. I was

happy that these individuals recognize the importance of enzymes. In

fact it is a standard part of their protocol. Who would have thought

we'd ever find actual doctors who use enzymes? The nutritionist at

Dr. Megson's office said he'd actually just met with Devin the week

prior to our appt., did I mention that before? Anyway, that was a

good sign for us. Thanks to anyone that can send any NAET or

metallothionein opinions our way.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

NAET is a method of treatment that is not sanctioned or approved by any

group. It was started by a renegade chiropractor, and is not sanctioned by the

chiropractic community.

Rich

[Guest guest]

I had tried NAET with my sons to try to reduce food allergies--

I saw it work, but the treatments would never stick. I never

got an explaination why and was tired of paying the $$$.

I'm not sure about Walsh vs. Megson protocols. Pfeiffer does

not recommend Houston enzymes, but I love them.

jennifer

NAET

> Could we do an informal poll? How many parents have tried NAET. About 1/2

way done with the material I pulled on it, but I'm more curious about

parent/child experiences with this treatment. I haven't come across anything

negative regarding it, which makes me nervous. Even enzymes, albeit falsely

accused, got a bad rap from some. The enzymes are doing wonders for food

intolerances, but can't quite seem to get that gut healed to the degree

casein and gluten aren't an issue. I've heard about intolerances developing

to the degree that the very things that are supposed to be healing the gut,

the body is actually fighting with. Anyone willing to share, I'd be

grateful. Plus, what do you guys think about the Walsh metallothionein

theory? It would seem the protocol Dr. Megson has us on fairly closely

mimics what Walsh suggests parents do to increase metallothionein. I was

happy that these individuals recognize the importance of enzymes. In fact it

is a standard part of their protocol. Who would have thought we'd ever find

actual doctors who use enzymes? The nutritionist at Dr. Megson's office said

he'd actually just met with Devin the week prior to our appt., did I mention

that before? Anyway, that was a good sign for us. Thanks to anyone that can

send any NAET or metallothionein opinions our way.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We did NAET with my son and I am not sure what I think about it. I would

say my son is " recovered " or " very close to it " (I always hold my breath

when I say that for fear of jinxing anything!) After gfcf for almost 3

years, IgG allergy testing, food rotation, we decided to do enzymes & NAET

before trying to transition my son off the diet. We were never sure if the

diet was necessary for him or not. He never showed major problems with diet

infractions, yet he made steady improvement so we did not want to take him

off the diet in case that was part of his " secret code " . We also did ABA,

DMSA, supplements & plenty of other things too. I would like to say that

NAET helped him. It was around the time that we were doing NAET that he

really made some great gains. But it is too hard to say with everything

else we were doing at the same time how beneficial the NAET treatments were

for him. We have been giving him gluten & casein containing foods and he

seems to continue to do well. But who knows if he would have been okay

without doing NAET. I always think it is a hard call to know what impact

various interventions have. My gut feeling is that NAET did help him,

although my rational side thinks that it is just too crazy to work!

Jen

NAET

> Could we do an informal poll? How many parents have tried NAET. About 1/2

way done with the material I pulled on it, but I'm more curious about

parent/child experiences with this treatment. I haven't come across anything

negative regarding it, which makes me nervous. Even enzymes, albeit falsely

accused, got a bad rap from some. The enzymes are doing wonders for food

intolerances, but can't quite seem to get that gut healed to the degree

casein and gluten aren't an issue. I've heard about intolerances developing

to the degree that the very things that are supposed to be healing the gut,

the body is actually fighting with. Anyone willing to share, I'd be

grateful. Plus, what do you guys think about the Walsh metallothionein

theory? It would seem the protocol Dr. Megson has us on fairly closely

mimics what Walsh suggests parents do to increase metallothionein. I was

happy that these individuals recognize the importance of enzymes. In fact it

is a standard part of their protocol. Who would have thought we'd ever find

actual doctors who use enzymes? The nutritionist at Dr. Megson's office said

he'd actually just met with Devin the week prior to our appt., did I mention

that before? Anyway, that was a good sign for us. Thanks to anyone that can

send any NAET or metallothionein opinions our way.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you very much for that. I printed it up, but was wondering, is your child

showing visible improvements with regards to those specific contents? How far

apart do you space each one? Is four typical? Most of the info. I've come across

suggests sometimes these kids require staying away from the allergen up to 30

hours, but nothing has suggested anywhere near 4 times. This is exactly the kind

of info. I was looking for. Had I not read 's book beforehand, I might have

tried the wrong kind of enzyme, or given up on it sooner.

P.S. this whole supplement thing has us on edge. Lots of irrational behavior,

red ears, screaming and smearing poo in the pants right now. I know we need the

calcium butyrate to balance out the whole histamine aspect of it ( the drooling

and enunciation aspect of it I believe), but my goodness. Haven't seen anything

like this in a while. We usually hit a rough spot before we see the good in our

" alternative " stuff. They have a name for that kind of response, but can't think

of it off the top of my head now. Good luck to everyone over the Holidays.

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[Guest guest]

What specific allergens were you trying to eliminate? How expensive/often was

it? Pfeiffer recommended plant based enzymes, so I assumed Houston would be

acceptable. Thank you for the info.

NAET

> Could we do an informal poll? How many parents have tried NAET. About 1/2

way done with the material I pulled on it, but I'm more curious about

parent/child experiences with this treatment. I haven't come across anything

negative regarding it, which makes me nervous. Even enzymes, albeit falsely

accused, got a bad rap from some. The enzymes are doing wonders for food

intolerances, but can't quite seem to get that gut healed to the degree

casein and gluten aren't an issue. I've heard about intolerances developing

to the degree that the very things that are supposed to be healing the gut,

the body is actually fighting with. Anyone willing to share, I'd be

grateful. Plus, what do you guys think about the Walsh metallothionein

theory? It would seem the protocol Dr. Megson has us on fairly closely

mimics what Walsh suggests parents do to increase metallothionein. I was

happy that these individuals recognize the importance of enzymes. In fact it

is a standard part of their protocol. Who would have thought we'd ever find

actual doctors who use enzymes? The nutritionist at Dr. Megson's office said

he'd actually just met with Devin the week prior to our appt., did I mention

that before? Anyway, that was a good sign for us. Thanks to anyone that can

send any NAET or metallothionein opinions our way.

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[Guest guest]

You're kidding. That's awful. Eight months is a heck of a long time to do any

protocol. Were you given any explanation, or did they just expect you to keep

coming back? This is exactly the type of stuff you don't read about. It's like a

lot of stuff, I imagine, some kids are helped, but you need to be prepared for

the other possibilities too. Of course I know some kids can't handle enzymes,

Thank the Good Lord that ph wasn't one of those munchkins. Where exactly did

you go for the treatments? Thank you for sharing, eight months, how old was your

munchkin when you started? Did you already have a good idea of the specific

allergens you wanted cured, or did they do their own assessment? Thank you

again.

Re: NAET

Naet did not help . We did everything we were told to do faithfully for

8 months.

Robin

[Guest guest]

That's what I was wondering. I know some Doctors can call themselves DAN

doctors, and they're worthless. I know some brands of enzymes are a waste, and

some probiotics, the list goes on. If it'll help great, but I sure don't have

money to waste. Most of the material I read said each treatment was a one time

treatment for that particular allergen, with a second try rarely required, as

some kids need longer than the 25 hours. That's certainly not the response I've

gotten from this group. Not a single person permanently helped. This group has

been through a lot. Thank you for telling me what I couldn't find in any book or

website.

NAET

,

My son and I both tried NAET and Bioset for almost 2 months and did not do

well with it. We went to two different practitioners and our symptoms got

worse

with each " treatment. " It could be that our practitioners were not as

skilled as they should be. I would say to give it a try for a short time and

see if

it helps but not to waste your time and money if you don't see results after

4-5 weeks. What has helped us the most are the Houston enzymes and homeopathy

along with a modified SCD diet.

Regards,

Sharon K.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/22/03 12:32:58 AM Eastern Standard Time,

amattson@... writes:

> Where exactly did you go for the treatments? Thank you for sharing, eight

> months, how old was your munchkin when you started? Did you already have a

> good idea of the specific allergens you wanted cured, or did they do their own

> assessment?

We went to a woman in the south Orlando (Florida) area. had been GFCF

for about 1 1/2 years at that point. He is now 7 1/2 so I think he was around

5 1/2 when we started NAET. As far as allergens I went in to " clear " , that

would have been gluten and casein. However, as I found out, there are many more

to look at. To answer your last question, she did her own assessment. Also, she

said she had a protocol she had to follow before we would get to gluten and

casein. In addition to the NAET, she usually recommended other supplements. We

were to do the acupressure home protocol twice daily, which we did without

fail as well as give him different supplements which changed with each treatment

($).

I know the treatments work for some people...that being said, I don't know

too many autistic kids that really have responded well. I know one mom who

really thinks it is helping her daughter. To be honest, I have not seen a

difference but I am not being fair. Her daughter is severe on the spectrum so

maybe the

subtle differences we all see in our kids were enough to keep this mom going.

I think she still goes but she has been seeing this person for about three

years now! I have a friend who thinks she was ripped off by this same person I

went to.

An interesting sidenote...there was a boy in my NT daughter's music class

(3-4 year olds). His mom said he was allergic to everything. No ASD just really

bad behavior and reactions with virtually any food or environmental item he

came into contact with. He couldn't even get a stamp on his hand at the end of

the class. I told her about Cutler's book The Food Allergy Cure. I figured she

had nothing to lose to try it. She wrote me a few months back and told me her

son is now, in her words, 95% cured.

So I know this stuff works, it is just the individual person and/or condition

that will vary the results.

BTW, I know someone on this list mentioned getting the testing vials. The mom

with the boy who responded so well found that if she used the actual foods

and chemicals rather than the vials, she got better results. She did order the

vials and used them for things she couldn't necessarily get some to put his

hands into. For example, she just had him put his hand into flour for that

treatment but used the v ial for ragweed.

Good luck. It is all so confusing to know what to do for our kids. My

approach has always been if it is not invasive and cannot cause damage, I try

it. Of

course, I used to have a decent amount of savings, too (LOL).

Robin

[Guest guest]

the Northern California area, please email me privately. I have a list and

all of people who have got their credentials, but there's nothing like a

referral.

Thanks,

Kari

Kari,

Dr. Ellen Cutler is in CA somewhere. Maybe she can direct you to a Northern

CA doctor. Go to www.bioset.com for her contact information.

Robin

[Guest guest]

I was also very intrigued with this. I did go to a chiropractor that preformed

part of one of the steps involved with NAET in that he used the muscle

resistance theory to find things my daughter had a problem with. Once you

" find " the offenders, I guess from there you get treated. He did not find

candida in my daughter, but gave her enzymes to take to help with overall

general health. When my daughter started up, she started talking about having

weird feelings inside. I got a bit freaked out, and it was these groups that I

determined she could be experience from die off/candida. He claimed that

couldn't be true because she didn't have anything. Needing to know for sure (as

best I could) I had tests done at GP and it was determined she does have

candidia.

The other huge variable in my opinion is the practitioner experience and an

individuals particular body/problems. I had a positive life alternating

experience through an acupuncturist however almost no one else in my condition

was able to achieve the miraculous results I did. To further complex things, as

great as this doctor was he wasn't able to put a dent in my daughters pollen

allergies.

I still am open. If someone did have a recommendation with NAET and lives in

the Northern California area, please email me privately. I have a list and all

of people who have got their credentials, but there's nothing like a referral.

Thanks,

Kari

Re: NAET

That's what I was wondering. I know some Doctors can call themselves DAN

doctors, and they're worthless. I know some brands of enzymes are a waste, and

some probiotics, the list goes on. If it'll help great, but I sure don't have

money to waste. Most of the material I read said each treatment was a one time

treatment for that particular allergen, with a second try rarely required, as

some kids need longer than the 25 hours. That's certainly not the response I've

gotten from this group. Not a single person permanently helped. This group has

been through a lot. Thank you for telling me what I couldn't find in any book or

website.