High blood pressure

February 1, 2003

Awwww Matt. I'm sorry to hear of the loss of your dear friends, Chips and

Coffee. I guess I don't understand about the salt for sure....is the

coffee restriction because of the effect of caffeine? There are some

products that resemble coffee in their taste == I used to drink this one

thing called Pero.. haven't for years but it was good.. and so was

postum... WHAT are toasted lettuce leaves, Matt? NEVER heard of those!

My daddy had the opposite problem as you do--low blood pressure.. He had

prostate surgery at one time and during surgery his pressure dropped to 50

over 0... they almost lost him.. After that he had to religiously take

some kind of medication to maintain it a a proper level.

Well It's good that we live in a day and age that the drs do have medicine

that can help you, Matt..... We wanna keep you around for a long time to

come!!!!!!!! Thanks for allowing us to share your frustrations though..

we're here for you.. BIG HUGS!!!!!

Matt mourned:

I am still

> doing the toasted lettuce leaves for breakfest, lunch and dinner routine. No

> more salt and especially no more potato chips (tear drop) no more coffee

> (double tear drop).

Liz

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March 19, 2003

Dear Yogi,

It is indeed very encouraging to hear this news. Thank you for

sharing this with us. It will give hope to the many others who have

the same problem. Could you please share with us the phrasing in the

EFT process that you used - Set-Up Phrase, Reminder Phrase, how many

rounds it took each time, etc.? How high the SUDs were...and if they

went down to zero or not? What came up for you in the process - were

there any emotions, events to heal, memories that came up? Tell us

more...this is very interesting...I have a number of people in mind

who have high blood pressure and who might benefit from learning

about your experience. Please share whatever you are open to share

with the forum. This is the first testimonial re blood pressure

reduction with EFT on this list, so it may well set a precedent, and

will be a useful educational process for us all.

Sincerely,

Daya

> My thanks to members who helped me. Since tapping my blood pressure

> has gone down from 145 over 100 to 130 over85.

> many thanks

> yogi

February 17, 2004

In a message dated 2/17/04 4:14:44 PM Central Standard Time, edwinasc@...

writes:

My blood pressure was going way up, then other readings it would go way down.

My doctor later confirmed that's what the report readings indicated. He

said: " No with you we know strange things happen, machine isn't

malfunctioning. "

Yeah, just me. So, I don't know if it's something one sees with Lyme or

CFIDS which is what I was originally diagnosed with but now have Lyme showing

positive or reactive on Western Blot testing.

Hello :

The Lyme plays a very bad part in heart issues. I don't know how to spell it

but it is called TACK A CARDIA which means the heart races along at a very

high speed. I have never experienced this myself but know several people who

have experienced it due to Lyme. I also went through the Cardiac

Catheterization in November 2001 because I thought I was experiencing heart

problems. They

performed every test for the heart in the hospital and found my heart to be

OK. They then told me I might have Lyme in the spinal column. I, not knowing

any better went for the spinal tap (a waste of money,time,and discomfort). I

was treated with IV Rocephin for 28 days which was good but not nearly long

enough as you need about 11 months of continuous IV treatment to have a chance

of

getting all of the Lyme bacteria so it does not start up all over again.

All my best wishes!

Sidney

August 7, 2005

I read an article or letter a while back about someone's personal

experience in Townsend Letter, and I might have it in which case I'll

send you a copy, that said that mercury can cause high blood pressure.

It also said that magnesium lowers blood pressure.

Chris

August 7, 2005

>I know very little about what causes high blood pressure and would like to

>send her some suggestions as to what to do in terms of dietary and lifestyle

>changes. Her doc wants to put her on meds for this, but my friend is looking

>for my help first with dietary changes before going that route. Any

>suggestions would be *greatly* appreciated!

>

>Suze Fisher

Mine went way up when I was pregnant and they put me on cortisol

inhibitors ... I suspect, therefore, that cortisol was the issue :-)

Now why was my cortisol high? Lots of theories about that: in my

case I tend to think it had to do with food allergies, plus pregnancy,

plus weight. But look into what causes cortisol problems and that

might provide a key.

A couple of people I know personally lost their blood pressure

problems when they went on Atkins ... and the problems

came back when they went back to eating normally (and gained

the weight back). Now was that due to weight, food reactions,

or what? I don't know, but it's interesting data. Either the

food or the weight must have been the culprit?

Heidi Jean

August 7, 2005

Hi ,

Along with my Reiter's I also have Coronary Artery Disease, and two

years ago I underwent triple bypass surgery. My post-op rehabilitation included

visits to a gym three times a week, and doing light excercises while being

attached to monitors. My blood pressure was fine, but my pulse was too high,

between 100 and 110 beats per minute. I was prescribed Toprol and it lowered my

rate

to 80 to 90 beats per minute. My Cardio

Doc has kept me on it, and along with my heart rate staying at 80 beats, my

blood pressure is always at 120/80. The only side effect I had to get used to

is a " flushing " feeling right after taking it, and a little, not a lot, of

dizziness when I stand up from sitting awhile. I hope this helps you, Yours,

Harv I'm 50

August 8, 2005

Hi ,

I have had blood pressure for the last twenty years after my last child.

This was when the A.S. and the other arthritic diseases stop going into any

kind of a remission. My blood pressure when a flareup is happening can be

170-90 + when my health is not so pressed 140/80.

They believe it is because of the A.S.

Do have the heart test, when they finally checked me they found an enlarged

heart (cardiomegaly) because my heart needed to enlarge to cope with the

Seno-negative Rheumtoid Arthritis, Fibro. A.S Odema history they believe

they all started from the age of 12 or even early, plus the fluid retention

I suffer from which is sometimes 25kg.

Methotraxate injections seems to be helping drain some of the fluid now and

feel somewhat better. Presidone and Plaquenil nearly killed me, I got every

side effect from them. So all of the other medication in Australia is off

limits to me now.

I have not heard of Benicar or Toprol-xl but checked on the web.

Something is wrong, high blood pressure is a sign not to be itaken lightly.

Bye (Australia

August 8, 2005

Suze-

>I know very little about what causes high blood pressure and would like to

>send her some suggestions as to what to do in terms of dietary and lifestyle

>changes. Her doc wants to put her on meds for this, but my friend is looking

>for my help first with dietary changes before going that route. Any

>suggestions would be *greatly* appreciated!

High blood pressure is often remedied by going on a low-carb

diet. Sometimes mineral deficiencies are also involved, so magnesium

supplementation could be worth a try. And CDP choline (citicoline) lowers

blood pressure very nicely while also having a number of other pleasant

positive effects.

What is her actual blood pressure, though? The medical industry is going

crazy treating to new targets with BP, and 120/80 is now considered

" pre-hypertensive " . She might be perfectly and completely fine BP-wise as

it is.

-

August 8, 2005

,

> High blood pressure is often remedied by going on a low-carb

> diet. Sometimes mineral deficiencies are also involved, so magnesium

> supplementation could be worth a try. And CDP choline (citicoline) lowers

> blood pressure very nicely while also having a number of other pleasant

> positive effects.

Interesting, maybe HBP is similar to Alzheimer's, in that the

individual chooses a high carb diet and needs low carb. Choline is one

of the few in the B complex metabolic protein types should supplement

because its vital to that metabolism. Inositol is another. Don't know

if you missed this I sent while you weren't posting

A case report on the successful use of inositol hexaniacinate for the

treatment of achlorhydria: its possible mechanism of action upon the central

nervous system and parietal cell-adenosine Triphosphate-dependent

[K.sup.+]/[H.sup.+] pump

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_2003_Feb-March/ai_97994363

Wanita

August 8, 2005

Suze,

>

>I know very little about what causes high blood pressure and would like to

>send her some suggestions as to what to do in terms of dietary and lifestyle

>changes. Her doc wants to put her on meds for this, but my friend is looking

>for my help first with dietary changes before going that route. Any

>suggestions would be *greatly* appreciated!

>

Aerobic exercise and yoga can help as well with lowering blood pressure

long term.

Deanna

August 10, 2005

Thanks everyone for your input on high blood pressure.

in VA

P. McKinney, CPA

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703-919-9856 (cell)

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August 12, 2005

Hi Ames. Wow! that's really high, although I've ended up in the emergency room

with blood pressure at 200/105. In my case, it seems to have been caused by a

panic attack. Obviously, that's not the case with you if they kept you in the

hospital for 2 weeks. What was causing it? Did they figure it out? What

medications are you on for the high blood pressure?

Thanks. in VA

August 17, 2005

For me, removing most of the salt in my diet and walking two to three miles

a day allowed me to lose about 100 lbs in two years and lowered my blood

pressure back to the normal range. I'd been on the maximum dosage of

Verapamil for 9 years.

I hope this helps.

--

Rima Regas

Mom to Leah, age 7 (AS, DSI and APD)

http://www.sensoryintegrationhelp.com

On 8/17/05, pjand3kids <pjand3kids@...> wrote:

>

> Any recommendations or suggestions on lowering my blood pressure? It

> is not related to stress, which I thought it was at first. However,

> it continues to be in the pre-hypertension range. Naturally the

> doctor would like to medicate me, but I'm totally against this. Has

> anyone had success naturally?

>

> Thanks!

>

> a J.

August 17, 2005

Thanks. I don't use a lot of salt, and I'm 5'6 " and weigh 115 lbs.

I run 5 miles a day, and lift weights 3 days per week. This blood

pressure thing has creeped up recently, since March. The doctor was

surprised by it as well, given how physically fit I am. He thought

it might be stress or nerves, but I go a few times per week to

Walgreens and check it, and it is still not where it should be.

a J.

> >

> > Any recommendations or suggestions on lowering my blood

pressure? It

> > is not related to stress, which I thought it was at first.

However,

> > it continues to be in the pre-hypertension range. Naturally the

> > doctor would like to medicate me, but I'm totally against this.

Has

> > anyone had success naturally?

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > a J.

>

August 17, 2005

I never used a lot of salt either. In fact, I never used salt when cooking,

for example. When you look at the sodium content of the foods you buy and

then add it all up, consumption is very high. A lot of salt is added to many

of the foods we eat daily.

Salt is only one component. You probably need to look at cholesterol and

other factors, including family history. High blood pressure can be caused

by other things. For me, it just happened to be the salt.

Rima

On 8/17/05, pjand3kids <pjand3kids@...> wrote:

>

> Thanks. I don't use a lot of salt, and I'm 5'6 " and weigh 115 lbs.

> I run 5 miles a day, and lift weights 3 days per week. This blood

> pressure thing has creeped up recently, since March. The doctor was

> surprised by it as well, given how physically fit I am. He thought

> it might be stress or nerves, but I go a few times per week to

> Walgreens and check it, and it is still not where it should be.

>

> a J.

>

> > >

> > > Any recommendations or suggestions on lowering my blood

> pressure? It

> > > is not related to stress, which I thought it was at first.

> However,

> > > it continues to be in the pre-hypertension range. Naturally the

> > > doctor would like to medicate me, but I'm totally against this.

> Has

> > > anyone had success naturally?

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> > > a J.

> >

August 17, 2005

My cholesterol is very low, and I don't consume any packaged food

products. We simply don't eat that way, because is gfcf, so I

cook from scratch; meat, veggies and fruit pretty much. There is

also no family history, so this is perplexing to me. I suppose it

could still be the salt thing.

a J.

> > > >

> > > > Any recommendations or suggestions on lowering my blood

> > pressure? It

> > > > is not related to stress, which I thought it was at first.

> > However,

> > > > it continues to be in the pre-hypertension range. Naturally

the

> > > > doctor would like to medicate me, but I'm totally against

this.

> > Has

> > > > anyone had success naturally?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks!

> > > >

> > > > a J.

> > >

August 17, 2005

What about plain old heredity? Any of that?

Didn't I hear this week that women who take regular doses of

Tylenol/Advil-like products are at higher risk of developing high

blood pressure? Any extensive Tylenol use history... especially

since you are an athlete with perhaps aches and pains.

Some of the more sinister causes of high blood pressure are kidney

abnormalilites (sometimes due to problems with your aorta) and

adrenal tumors.

Calcium, magnesium and potassium are essential for blood pressure

control. Try increasing your dietary sources of this stuff or buy

supplements. Perhaps you are depleting your sources with your high

activity level? I've heard garlic and Co-Q10 are useful to some.

good luck to you. It stinks when we take care of ourselves and STILL

run in to health problems!

Pam

> > >

> > > Any recommendations or suggestions on lowering my blood

> pressure? It

> > > is not related to stress, which I thought it was at first.

> However,

> > > it continues to be in the pre-hypertension range. Naturally

the

> > > doctor would like to medicate me, but I'm totally against

this.

> Has

> > > anyone had success naturally?

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> > > a J.

> >

August 17, 2005

Have you had cholesterol and homocysteine checked? Are they high? Are you

chelating yourself?

S S

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Any recommendations or suggestions on lowering my blood pressure? It

is not related to stress, which I thought it was at first. However,

it continues to be in the pre-hypertension range. Naturally the

doctor would like to medicate me, but I'm totally against this. Has

anyone had success naturally?

Thanks!

a J.

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August 17, 2005

>

> <tt>

> Any recommendations or suggestions on lowering my blood pressure?

It

> is not related to stress, which I thought it was at first.

1. low-fat plant-based diet. See any of the books by

McDougall MD, or Dean Ornish MD. They also

recommend pretty decent amounts of walking and

I think use a meditation program. All that is often

quite effective.

2. I've heard some pretty remarkable drops in blood pressure

and cholesterol after amalgam removal and/or chelation.

3. I once had a co-worker who had been dx'ed with high BP.

He took time off work, lost weight, and started walking a

LOT working up to several hours a day. May I say that this

is a real example of treating one's options seriously,

and choosing things that can only add many more benefits.

Oh, I failed to mention, yes, of course his BP did go down.

I believe it was only moderately high to begin with-- again,

real dedication....

good wishes,

Moria

August 17, 2005

High bp is very prevalent in my husband's family. His bp came down

quite a bit when I started to regularily prepare fresh vegetable

juices for him. I use mostly celery, but also add other things like

some carrot, parsley, sometimes broccoli, cauliflower. His sister

tells me that her bp went down when she started to take blueberry and

pomegranate juice (from Costco). It is blueberry season now and I

have been washing and freezing them in small packages for blender

drinks. I do believe that there are lots of good things in

blueberries (and other fruits and vegetables).

> > >

> > > Any recommendations or suggestions on lowering my blood

> pressure? It

> > > is not related to stress, which I thought it was at first.

> However,

> > > it continues to be in the pre-hypertension range. Naturally the

> > > doctor would like to medicate me, but I'm totally against this.

> Has

> > > anyone had success naturally?

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> > > a J.

December 20, 2005

These docs don't understand hormones and how they lower bp. If I were you

I would try Armour (ENUF) and DHEA. and a more holistic doc.

Gracia

> Hello All,

> Haven't posted in awhile. I was wondering if anyone is haveing

> problems with high blood pressure? Ever since I have been diagnosed

> with hypo I have had hbp. I took meds for it at first for about 2

> years and it took care of the blood pressure but lowered my pulse

> too low. I have been taken off those meds - and all was fine for

> awhile. But, I just been to my gyn and my blood pressure is on the

> rise again and she suggested I see a nephrologist. (I have a history

> of kidney stones) Is this the right thing to do? I just don't want

> to waste my time and $$$$$$$. I also want to add that my endo rose

> my synthroid dose (125) yay, but because he gave me a higher dose

> he suggested that I work out daily to prevent any possible hyper

> symptoms. AND I do work out as much as I can and do notice I feel

> better with the heart palpitations and stuff when I do. BUT I also

> feel that my hbp is not due to a rise in my synthroid dose since I

> don't carry any hyper symptoms. I see my endo in Feb. I was going

> to just wait until I see him, but my gyn suggested I see my endo and

> the nephrologist on the same day. Any advice or thought would be

> great. Thank you all in advance!

>

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December 20, 2005

> These docs don't understand hormones and how they lower bp. If I

were you

> I would try Armour (ENUF) and DHEA. and a more holistic doc.

> Gracia

Thank you Gracia,

I am new to this doc (only two visits) we are still trying to

understand eachother. BUT He made it very clear to me that I am in

control...if I wanted to try other options I can... armour, cytomel,

whatever, as long as I get what I need and want , with his help of

course. I will think about a more holistic approach.

December 20, 2005

well that is good, maybe you can work with him then. High bp is hormonal

IMO

Gracia

> These docs don't understand hormones and how they lower bp. If I

were you

> I would try Armour (ENUF) and DHEA. and a more holistic doc.

> Gracia

Thank you Gracia,

I am new to this doc (only two visits) we are still trying to

understand eachother. BUT He made it very clear to me that I am in

control...if I wanted to try other options I can... armour, cytomel,

whatever, as long as I get what I need and want , with his help of

course. I will think about a more holistic approach.

December 20, 2005

Hello ,

The most imporatnt cause of hbp are stress and a faulty style of

living.An irregular life style,smoking,excessive intake of

intoxicants,hardening of arteries,obesity,diabetese etc also lead to hbp.Other

causes include excsesive intake of pain killers,food allergies,eating a high

fat low fibre diet,processed foods deficient in essential nutirients.I guess u

know all this.

The kidneys play an important role in controling bp through secretion of

renin,a natural chemical.If increased renin is secreted by the kidney,more

salts are retained in the body,which lead to an increase in the volume of

circulating blood and hence hbp.Repeated infections and inflammations in the

kidneys can also give rise to hypertension.

It might not be a bad idea to see a nephrologist

A relative of mine tried some natural remedies which helped him a lot in

controlling hbp.

Puneet

<mwcislo@...> wrote: Hello All,

Haven't posted in awhile. I was wondering if anyone is haveing

problems with high blood pressure? Ever since I have been diagnosed

with hypo I have had hbp. I took meds for it at first for about 2

years and it took care of the blood pressure but lowered my pulse

too low. I have been taken off those meds - and all was fine for

awhile. But, I just been to my gyn and my blood pressure is on the

rise again and she suggested I see a nephrologist. (I have a history

of kidney stones) Is this the right thing to do? I just don't want

to waste my time and $$$$$$$. I also want to add that my endo rose

my synthroid dose (125) yay, but because he gave me a higher dose

he suggested that I work out daily to prevent any possible hyper

symptoms. AND I do work out as much as I can and do notice I feel

better with the heart palpitations and stuff when I do. BUT I also

feel that my hbp is not due to a rise in my synthroid dose since I

don't carry any hyper symptoms. I see my endo in Feb. I was going

to just wait until I see him, but my gyn suggested I see my endo and

the nephrologist on the same day. Any advice or thought would be

great. Thank you all in advance!

__________________________________________________

December 20, 2005

How much carbohydrates are you consuming during the day?

How much calcium are you consuming?

Are you using table salt(NaCl-poison) or sea salt (Na and 84 minerals

(Celtic))?

Are you consuming hydrogenated fats?

www.westonaprice.org

www.mercola.com

Mike

high blood pressure

Hello All,