High blood pressure

[Guest guest]

Hi Roe,

I used to have borderline blood pressure, but it is now within the normal

limits. The doctor doesn't get concerned unless the blood pressure stays

elavated too long or gets too high.

Also I have a strong craving... I put salt on almost everything I eat (except

salad and sweets) and even use it on pizzas, hamburgers, and chocolate milk.

In the past, the craving has been strong that I would lick pure salt

crystals. And it is with the doctor's approval.

I have orthostatic hypotension (nmh) and I guess that explains the salt

cravings.

One nice thing about this.. often friends were aghast when I put salt on

pizzas or hamburgers, whatever, and they lectured me about the sins of salt.

The statement 'the doctor encouraged this practice' left them speechless

there was a very recent study stating that there is no link between

consumption of salt and high blood pressure. I cannot remember much details

about that study.

elizabeth

Hi everyone, everytime i am on IV rocephin, my blood pressure goes

up.My nurse is driving me crazy about it, but my doctor doesnt seem to

concerned. its is 135/92. The wierdest thing is I crave salt, like

potatoe chips, i dont induldge but i really want to. any one have any

ideas? >>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Marta, I refuse to make myself crazy about this blood pressure

thing. i have enough problems and it is only moderately high and

always returns to normal after I stop taking the IV. Just need to

convince my nurse, who swears my head is going to explode! i see my

doctor on Tuesday and will tell him again about my nurses concern and

will follow his advice. Maybe i will get a note from him to tell the

nurse to get off my back!! lol

roe

--- Marta McCoy <mlmccoy@...> wrote:

> Hi nne,

> I have a friend that this happens to also, he went and bought one

> of

> those at home blood pressure kits, and drives himself nuts taking his

> pressure throughout the day. If your doctor is not concerned, and

> you trust

> him, I would say don't concern yourself either. As for craving salt,

> I do

> that too, but generally right before my period, which is of course

> not a

> good idea due to fluid retention. I wish I was as strong as you and

> did not

> give in to my cravings.

> Before I got Lyme disease, I always had super low BP. Like 80/60,

> now

> with LD, I am in the normal category of 110/70 usually. I have heard

> that

> LD will cause your BP to raise too, but sorry cannot provide where I

> heard

> it.

> Hugs,

> Marta

>

> From: nne <roe0325@...>

>

>

> >Hi everyone, everytime i am on IV rocephin, my blood pressure goes

> >up.My nurse is driving me crazy about it, but my doctor doesnt seem

> to

> >concerned. its is 135/92. The wierdest thing is I crave salt, like

> >potatoe chips, i dont induldge but i really want to. any one have

> any

> >ideas?

> >rosanne

> >

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi nne,

I have a friend that this happens to also, he went and bought one of

those at home blood pressure kits, and drives himself nuts taking his

pressure throughout the day. If your doctor is not concerned, and you trust

him, I would say don't concern yourself either. As for craving salt, I do

that too, but generally right before my period, which is of course not a

good idea due to fluid retention. I wish I was as strong as you and did not

give in to my cravings.

Before I got Lyme disease, I always had super low BP. Like 80/60, now

with LD, I am in the normal category of 110/70 usually. I have heard that

LD will cause your BP to raise too, but sorry cannot provide where I heard

it.

Hugs,

Marta

From: nne <roe0325@...>

>Hi everyone, everytime i am on IV rocephin, my blood pressure goes

>up.My nurse is driving me crazy about it, but my doctor doesnt seem to

>concerned. its is 135/92. The wierdest thing is I crave salt, like

>potatoe chips, i dont induldge but i really want to. any one have any

>ideas?

>rosanne

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Roe,

I used to have borderline blood pressure, but it is now within the normal

limits. The doctor doesn't get concerned unless the blood pressure stays

elavated too long or gets too high.

Also I have a strong craving... I put salt on almost everything I eat (except

salad and sweets) and even use it on pizzas, hamburgers, and chocolate milk.

In the past, the craving has been strong that I would lick pure salt

crystals. And it is with the doctor's approval.

I have orthostatic hypotension (nmh) and I guess that explains the salt

cravings.

One nice thing about this.. often friends were aghast when I put salt on

pizzas or hamburgers, whatever, and they lectured me about the sins of salt.

The statement 'the doctor encouraged this practice' left them speechless

there was a very recent study stating that there is no link between

consumption of salt and high blood pressure. I cannot remember much details

about that study.

elizabeth

Hi everyone, everytime i am on IV rocephin, my blood pressure goes

up.My nurse is driving me crazy about it, but my doctor doesnt seem to

concerned. its is 135/92. The wierdest thing is I crave salt, like

potatoe chips, i dont induldge but i really want to. any one have any

ideas? >>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Marta, I refuse to make myself crazy about this blood pressure

thing. i have enough problems and it is only moderately high and

always returns to normal after I stop taking the IV. Just need to

convince my nurse, who swears my head is going to explode! i see my

doctor on Tuesday and will tell him again about my nurses concern and

will follow his advice. Maybe i will get a note from him to tell the

nurse to get off my back!! lol

roe

--- Marta McCoy <mlmccoy@...> wrote:

> Hi nne,

> I have a friend that this happens to also, he went and bought one

> of

> those at home blood pressure kits, and drives himself nuts taking his

> pressure throughout the day. If your doctor is not concerned, and

> you trust

> him, I would say don't concern yourself either. As for craving salt,

> I do

> that too, but generally right before my period, which is of course

> not a

> good idea due to fluid retention. I wish I was as strong as you and

> did not

> give in to my cravings.

> Before I got Lyme disease, I always had super low BP. Like 80/60,

> now

> with LD, I am in the normal category of 110/70 usually. I have heard

> that

> LD will cause your BP to raise too, but sorry cannot provide where I

> heard

> it.

> Hugs,

> Marta

>

> From: nne <roe0325@...>

>

>

> >Hi everyone, everytime i am on IV rocephin, my blood pressure goes

> >up.My nurse is driving me crazy about it, but my doctor doesnt seem

> to

> >concerned. its is 135/92. The wierdest thing is I crave salt, like

> >potatoe chips, i dont induldge but i really want to. any one have

> any

> >ideas?

> >rosanne

> >

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Elda,

Yes, I had the same problem. I'm now down to 3mg/day and my pressure is now back to my normal low. It has also resolved my glaucoma and diabetes, both are now back to normal.

Don

Terradon Unlimited

http://www.TerradonUnlimited.com

"People who ask me how we can still have such a positive attitude after all we’ve been through, have it all wrong…We’ve been able to get through all that we have BECAUSE we have a positive attitude". Don Hanson 8/2000

-----Original Message-----From: 72023.65@... [mailto:72023.65@...]Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 8:58 AM Subject: [ ] High Blood PressureHi Everyone! I was diagnosed with AIH almost five years ago and have been on prednisone on and off. Right now I am on 6mg. trying to tappered down. Unfortunatly the doctor just dicovered I have high blood pressure. My pressure was always on the low side before prednisone, and I think the rise is due to the prednisone. I have to start taking blood presure medicine and I am very upset about it. Does anyone have the same problem. Have the blood pressure gone back to normal after the prednisone is reduced or discontinued. Thanks for any information.EldaAIH/Phx.Az.

[Guest guest]

Hi Don:

Thank You for your reply, I feel better to know that it will go

away. For now I cut all the salt and started to walk and exercise

more.-

-- In @y..., " Don - Terradon Unlimited "

<donhanson@m...> wrote:

> Hi Elda,

>

> Yes, I had the same problem. I'm now down to 3mg/day and my

pressure is now

> back to my normal low. It has also resolved my glaucoma and

diabetes, both

> are now back to normal.

>

> Don

> Terradon Unlimited

> http://www.TerradonUnlimited.com

> " People who ask me how we can still have such a positive attitude

after all

> we've been through, have it all wrong.We've been able to get

through all

> that we have BECAUSE we have a positive attitude " . Don Hanson 8/2000

> [ ] High Blood Pressure

>

>

> Hi Everyone!

> I was diagnosed with AIH almost five years ago and have been

on

> prednisone on and off. Right now I am on 6mg. trying to tappered

> down. Unfortunatly the doctor just dicovered I have high blood

> pressure. My pressure was always on the low side before

prednisone,

> and I think the rise is due to the prednisone. I have to start

> taking blood presure medicine and I am very upset about it. Does

> anyone have the same problem. Have the blood pressure gone back

to

> normal after the prednisone is reduced or discontinued. Thanks

for

> any information.

>

> Elda

> AIH/Phx.Az.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I accidentally deleted the message, sender unknown, saying, approximately,

"I feel better knowing it will go away -- for now I'm cutting out salt and walking more."

Hypertension MAY go away with lower dosages and cutting out salt and walking more -- and weight loss. But, those steps may not be enough. Be sure to discuss this with your doctor. Other measures may be necessary as well.

Hypertension is serious, as you know.

I take medications for it without fail each day. Generally, people have to experiment until they find the medication that gives good results with little or no bad side effects. I keep a hypertension monitor at home (about $40 for a good one), but my doctor says some people's readings fluctuate so widely that I mustn't be complacent if I get good readings.

Harper

[Guest guest]

If everything checks out OK for you, you might try what the alternative docs

tell us " old ladies " to do for the high blood pressure.

That is: drink a cup of celery juice every day which you have just freshly made

with your juicer! The most recent person to

deliver this advice is a young doctor of Chinese Medicine (and acupuncturist)

who addressed a group at the Senior Center . I've

been doing it for a week or 10 days but have not had occasion to measure my

BP....

Ann

High Blood Pressure

Does anyone that is hypo have high blood pressure? That is my latest

symptom and I am going to a nephrologist. Kind of worried though b/c

they seem to think I am kind of young for this. I am only 26 and

about 3 or 4 months ago I had fairly normal blood pressure. It's the

bottom number that is getting higher.

Just curious. I am wondering if it is thyroid that is making me so

fatigued or my higher blood pressure. I still haven't been given

meds for thyroid and all doc's think I am fine but my TSH has been

above 2 and slowly climbing.

Thanks for your input,

Jill

[Guest guest]

But not TOO bad juiced in with the celery....

Ann

Re: High Blood Pressure

Garlic and Apples, not together, lol are both good for

lowering blood pressure.

OKC

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[Guest guest]

Garlic and Apples, not together, lol are both good for

lowering blood pressure.

OKC

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[Guest guest]

Actually, people with hypothyroidism usually have

lower blood pressures and pulses. They feel cold a

lot, and have very little energy. Hyperthyroidism is

pretty much just the opposite. Rapid pulse, high B/P,

jittery, or hyperactivity, difficulty sleeping.

OKC.

--- jilln0323 <jilln0323@...> wrote:

> Does anyone that is hypo have high blood pressure?

> That is my latest

> symptom and I am going to a nephrologist. Kind of

> worried though b/c

> they seem to think I am kind of young for this. I

> am only 26 and

> about 3 or 4 months ago I had fairly normal blood

> pressure. It's the

> bottom number that is getting higher.

>

> Just curious. I am wondering if it is thyroid that

> is making me so

> fatigued or my higher blood pressure. I still

> haven't been given

> meds for thyroid and all doc's think I am fine but

> my TSH has been

> above 2 and slowly climbing.

>

> Thanks for your input,

> Jill

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Actually, people with hypothyroidism usually have

lower blood pressures and pulses. They feel cold a

lot, and have very little energy. Hyperthyroidism is

pretty much just the opposite. Rapid pulse, high B/P,

jittery, or hyperactivity, difficulty sleeping.

OKC.

You will find high blood pressure listed as a symptom of hypo on many sites

(www.brodabarnes.org is one). I had rapid pulse, low tsh which would be

considered hyper and all symptoms resolved with Armour (I believe I have

been hypo since birth). So IMO hyper is just another version of hypo,

and medical treatment of hyper is a major medical scandal.

Gracia

[Guest guest]

Gracia,

I couldn't find any symptom list on the brodabarnes web site . . .

only a lot of literature for sale. I'm hypothyroid and have been on

medication for it for over 20 years. I've never had high blood

pressure . . . not before I was treated and not ever since. My blood

pressure has always been low or low normal.

I have been in a state of hyperthyroidism due to too much medication

and I found it to be very different from my symptoms when hypothyroid.

Reducing the dosage on my thyroid medication resolved that problem

easily. I think you may be confusing hyperthyroidism with something

else. For instance, after a person has been hypothyroid for a while

the adrenals can become overreactive and produce rapid pulse. Then if

you have a pituitary problem then your TSH could be low no matter

what.

Celeste

Gracia wrote:

>

> You will find high blood pressure listed as a symptom of hypo on

many sites

> (www.brodabarnes.org is one). I had rapid pulse, low tsh which

would be

> considered hyper and all symptoms resolved with Armour (I believe I

have

> been hypo since birth). So IMO hyper is just another version of

hypo,

> and medical treatment of hyper is a major medical scandal.

[Guest guest]

Celeste, you have to click on " who we are " at www.brodabarnes.org for the

list of symptoms--high and low blood pressure are on there, but I associate

low blood pressure with exhausted adrenals too. I have been diagnosed

hyperthyroid twice in my life, so actually it's the doctors that were

confused! I do think hyper symptoms are caused by stressed adrenals and

low T3. I think the standard treatment for hyper is totally wrong. I have

taken too much thyroid meds too and it is a different feeling from being

" hyper " .

Gracia

> Gracia,

>

> I couldn't find any symptom list on the brodabarnes web site . . .

> only a lot of literature for sale. I'm hypothyroid and have been on

> medication for it for over 20 years. I've never had high blood

> pressure . . . not before I was treated and not ever since. My blood

> pressure has always been low or low normal.

>

> I have been in a state of hyperthyroidism due to too much medication

> and I found it to be very different from my symptoms when hypothyroid.

> Reducing the dosage on my thyroid medication resolved that problem

> easily. I think you may be confusing hyperthyroidism with something

> else. For instance, after a person has been hypothyroid for a while

> the adrenals can become overreactive and produce rapid pulse. Then if

> you have a pituitary problem then your TSH could be low no matter

> what.

>

> Celeste

>

> Gracia wrote:

> >

> > You will find high blood pressure listed as a symptom of hypo on

> many sites

> > (www.brodabarnes.org is one). I had rapid pulse, low tsh which

> would be

> > considered hyper and all symptoms resolved with Armour (I believe I

> have

> > been hypo since birth). So IMO hyper is just another version of

> hypo,

> > and medical treatment of hyper is a major medical scandal.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Gracia,

Yes, I did click on the " who we are " when I was looking through the

brodabarnes web site, but all I found was a list of " Some potential

symptoms of thyroid and endocrine imbalances. " Nothing specific,

though.

The symptoms I had from taking too much levothyroxine (palpitations,

heat intolerance, nervousness, insomnia, increased bowel motility,

fatigue, faster heart rate, shaky hands, warm moist skin, and muscle

weakness) were the typical hyperthyroid symptoms. It was so weird

because I'd never felt that way before and it crept up on me so

slowly. I didn't know what it was until I went to my doctor for my

semi-annual thyroid checkup. I'm just glad I'm diligent about doing

those.

Celeste

Gracia wrote:

>

> Celeste, you have to click on " who we are " at www.brodabarnes.org

for the

> list of symptoms--high and low blood pressure are on there, but I

associate

> low blood pressure with exhausted adrenals too. I have been

diagnosed

> hyperthyroid twice in my life, so actually it's the doctors that

were

> confused! I do think hyper symptoms are caused by stressed

adrenals and

> low T3. I think the standard treatment for hyper is totally wrong.

I have

> taken too much thyroid meds too and it is a different feeling from

being

> " hyper " .

> Gracia

> > Gracia,

> >

> > I couldn't find any symptom list on the brodabarnes web site . . .

> > only a lot of literature for sale. I'm hypothyroid and have been

on

> > medication for it for over 20 years. I've never had high blood

> > pressure . . . not before I was treated and not ever since. My

blood

> > pressure has always been low or low normal.

> >

> > I have been in a state of hyperthyroidism due to too much

medication

> > and I found it to be very different from my symptoms when

hypothyroid.

> > Reducing the dosage on my thyroid medication resolved that problem

> > easily. I think you may be confusing hyperthyroidism with

something

> > else. For instance, after a person has been hypothyroid for a

while

> > the adrenals can become overreactive and produce rapid pulse. Then

if

> > you have a pituitary problem then your TSH could be low no matter

> > what.

> >

> > Celeste

> >

> > Gracia wrote:

> > >

> > > You will find high blood pressure listed as a symptom of hypo on

> > many sites

> > > (www.brodabarnes.org is one). I had rapid pulse, low tsh which

> > would be

> > > considered hyper and all symptoms resolved with Armour (I

believe I

> > have

> > > been hypo since birth). So IMO hyper is just another version

of

> > hypo,

> > > and medical treatment of hyper is a major medical scandal.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Are you sure your elevated blood pressure is due to the Lexapro?

Hypertension can be caused by so many different things. Do you

monitor your own blood pressure, or did your doctor measure it? Did

it stay consistently at that elevated level for the 10 days that you

were on it? These readings can vary from day to day, and I think the

systolic measurement (the first one) is especially subject to

fluctuation, even from hour to hour.

I never had any change in blood pressure during my two and a half

years on Celexa, nor on Lexapro so far. In fact, I think it may have

dropped a little while I was on Celexa because my anxiety was

controlled.

> Has anybody experienced High Blood Pressure

> ( hypertension ) from Celexa or Lexapro or other SSRIs?

>

> I have been on Celexa 10 mg. for a couple of years and my blood

pressure is ok with meds.

>

> But then I switched to Lexapro 5 mg. for just 10 days and my blood

pressure went up from 120/80 to 160/120 so I switched back to Celexa

10 mg.

>

> What about others?

>

> Has anyone experienced HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE from any SSRIs or

specifically Celexa or Lexapro?

[Guest guest]

I check my blood pressure daily.

Part of the problem is I also have hyperaldosteronism.

> > Has anybody experienced High Blood Pressure

> > ( hypertension ) from Celexa or Lexapro or other SSRIs?

> >

> > I have been on Celexa 10 mg. for a couple of years and my blood

> pressure is ok with meds.

> >

> > But then I switched to Lexapro 5 mg. for just 10 days and my

blood

> pressure went up from 120/80 to 160/120 so I switched back to

Celexa

> 10 mg.

> >

> > What about others?

> >

> > Has anyone experienced HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE from any SSRIs or

> specifically Celexa or Lexapro?

[Guest guest]

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then lower your cholesterol by doing liver cleanses. good health!

" isell_discoverytoys <schw9883@...> " <schw9883@...>

wrote:What does Dr. Recommend?

thank you, Ken

[Guest guest]

Just wanted to let you know that different NSAIDs have different effects on

blood pressure and some raise blood pressure more than others. Which make me

think, Matt have you changed Meds or gotten on a different NSAID of late?

Usually the BP changes are minor according to the Medical literature but

occasionally the right person with the wrong NSAID can cause serious

increases. Vioxx, is a good drug but does cause a dose related increase in

hypertension.

Hope this helps,

Dave in NC

[Guest guest]

Matt, both those numbers are high. I hope you will find a good drug that

takes care of it real easy. I always had low blood pressure until a few years

ago. It hasn't been easy for me to find a drug that will do the trick...until

recently. I've been on four or five blood pressure meds...and had trouble

finding a water pill that I wasn't allergic to. I'm running a nice 110-120.

:-) We found that cutting my BP med in half...taking one half in the morning

and the other half in the evening kept it more consistent. You might ask your

doctor next time about that. When I was taking the pill just in the

morning...my pressure reading was good during the day...but went up in the

evening through the next morning until I took the pill again. Literature says

that most strokes and heart attacks from high blood pressure occur during

those late and early hours.

Best regards, Connie (granny)

[Guest guest]

<PRE>, my doctor mentioned the NSAID, too. I can't do without it though. I'm

starting another episode of iritis in my good eye. Both eyes going at once.

Only happened once before. Very upsetting and I'll probably have to increase

to max on my NSAID. Connie

[Guest guest]

At 08:01 PM 1/31/03 -0500, you wrote:

>My blood pressure has been steadily rising over the last few months.

Been there, done that, got the T-shirt -- and the BP meds. :-(

My BP started rising and staying elevated about 5 years ago. I also tried

all the non-medical ways to lower it, without success. I have no family

history of high blood pressure and don't have any obvious medical reasons.

The rheumatologist blames it on a combination of stress from the disease,

constant fatigue and NSAIDs. I'm on Hytrin and Plendil which keep it pretty

well in line, as long as I'm not having too bad a day.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Connie and Dave, my meds have all been the same. I have been taking

Relafen for about 10 years now. A few months ago it just started to climb on

its own even though it had been normal all my life. I am currently taking

micardis, which is an " AT receptor blocker " whatever an AT is. I am still

doing the toasted lettuce leaves for breakfest, lunch and dinner routine. No

more salt and especially no more potato chips (tear drop) no more coffee

(double tear drop). My Doc said it just happens that way sometimes. They

don't know why. Thanks again, Matt

[Guest guest]

At 08:49 PM 1/31/03 -0500, you wrote:

><PRE>, my doctor mentioned the NSAID, too. I can't do without it though.

Same here. I sometimes have to increase the dosage for a week when I flare,

so that doesn't help on the BP end of things, but what are you going to do?