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Hi Kerri:

I was just thinking today that maybe he is ready to get rid of his

nap. It just seemed so sudden and the only thing I did was start

giving him epsom salt bath. He went from 2-3 hour nap to barely an

hour and he is getting up an hour earlier in the morning. He

definitely keeps me on my toes guessing to figure him out!!

I am going to try the fishoils at night and see what happens. I

started him at night and I didn't see much change in him so I

switched to morning time. I will try nighttime again.

Thanks for your message.

Tina

>

> Tina,

>

> Maybe they make his stomach a little upset? I can't remember if

you

> said you'd tried the EFAs at bedtime. My girls usually end up

> getting them pretty close to bedtime - not really on purpose - and

> it doesn't seem to bother them in any way. You could try that.

> Nordic Naturals makes lots of other kinds (I just ordered some

Omega

> 3-6-9 NOT junior today and it ends up being a better price than

Pro-

> EFA and a very similar formulation), and other companies make them

> too. I've heard of people on this site using Coromega and Omega-

> Brite. I don't know if it would help you're problem, but it's

worth

> a shot. It seems like you should be able to find a way to bypass

> the side effects.

>

> And about the sleep issues you're having...does he still take a

> nap? If so, maybe he's ready to give it up. Meg gave up her nap

at

> around 27 months - a missed those naps, but at least I didn't have

> to spend half of my afternoon trying to get her to sleep! She

went

> from going to bed at around 10:00, waking at 8:00 and taking a 3-

> hour afternoon nap to going to bad by 8:00. waking at 8:00 and no

> nap.

>

> Kerri

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I have more questions than answers for you.

Do you have amlagams? If so, the usual advice is to remove amalgams FIRST,

then chelate.

Why are " 5 treatments " needed to remove mercury? Mercury removal takes longer

than that? What is the cost of 30-$150 per treatment for? For chelation, a

chelator is taken along with minerals. What is the 30-$150 per treatment for?

Liver testing?

I am just curious and I'm sure the more knowledgeful ones here will have more

answers and less questions.

ggv1 <ggv1@...> wrote:

Hi. I recently took a two toxic metal test at an office of a Holistic

doctor and my results were as follows. The Pre test shows no problems

and all my metals levels were ok. The post test or challenge test was

done with DMSP and the test showed that my mercury levels were at 23

ug/g. My doctor tells me that I should have Chelation therapy because

my mercury levels are too high. He said five treatments will be needed

but reading on the internet it appears that most people had between 20

and 30 at 150 dollars per treatment. I am very confused and scared

about all of this. I am having my 4 silver fillings removed next week.

Any thoughts or comments on this would be highly appreciated. Thank you

for your help.

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The Doctor said 5 total chelation treatments. From what I read on the

web most people need 20 plus chelation treatments at approx $150 per

session. He didnt say anything about liver testing? Should I have my

liver tested prior to the chelation? Thanks

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>

> I have more questions than answers for you.

>

> Do you have amlagams? If so, the usual advice is to remove

amalgams FIRST, then chelate.

>

> Why are " 5 treatments " needed to remove mercury? Mercury removal

takes longer than that? What is the cost of 30-$150 per treatment

for? For chelation, a chelator is taken along with minerals. What

is the 30-$150 per treatment for? Liver testing?

>

> I am just curious and I'm sure the more knowledgeful ones here

will have more answers and less questions.

>

>

>

> ggv1 <ggv1@...> wrote:

> Hi. I recently took a two toxic metal test at an office

of a Holistic

> doctor and my results were as follows. The Pre test shows no

problems

> and all my metals levels were ok. The post test or challenge test

was

> done with DMSP and the test showed that my mercury levels were at

23

> ug/g. My doctor tells me that I should have Chelation therapy

because

> my mercury levels are too high. He said five treatments will be

needed

> but reading on the internet it appears that most people had between

20

> and 30 at 150 dollars per treatment. I am very confused and scared

> about all of this. I am having my 4 silver fillings removed next

week.

> Any thoughts or comments on this would be highly appreciated. Thank

you

> for your help.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> Hi. I recently took a two toxic metal test at an office of a Holistic

> doctor and my results were as follows. The Pre test shows no problems

> and all my metals levels were ok. The post test or challenge test was

> done with DMSP and the test showed that my mercury levels were at 23

These tests are not very helpful. For one thing, taking a challenge

dose moves a lot of metals and makes some people worse. For another,

the test can sometimes show high levels in relatively healthy people

and low levels in very toxic people. Just not very accurate. A DDI

hair test is a better way to check for toxicity (you'll find more on

hair testing in the Files section).

> ug/g. My doctor tells me that I should have Chelation therapy because

> my mercury levels are too high. He said five treatments will be needed

> but reading on the internet it appears that most people had between 20

> and 30 at 150 dollars per treatment. I am very confused and scared

> about all of this. I am having my 4 silver fillings removed next week.

> Any thoughts or comments on this would be highly appreciated. Thank you

> for your help.

I assume you are talking about IV chelation. This is dangerous

and many people have had problems with these treatments. Please

read more at http://www.dmpsbackfire.com - not everyone has extreme

backfires, but it is impossible to predict who will have them.

Doctors generally deny that this happens, but I have seen

many first-hand reports on the adult chelation lists as well.

Oral chelation is much safer. Start reading the Andy_Index in

the Files section for more information on the recommended protocol

for oral chelation. Low, frequent dosing is the key to doing

this safely.

Of course, you *must* have your amalgam fillings removed before

taking any chelators.

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Challenge tests are dangerous, particularly while you still have amalgam

fillings. Don't do anymore. This sounds like a doc who does IV chelation and

doesn't understand mercury toxicity or safe, proper chelation...run the other

way. Read the FAQs of this list and learn how to chelate without a doctor (oral

chelation with OTC chelators). Much less expensive and much safer. A DDI hair

elements test with counting rules applied is much more useful and safer than a

challenge test.

I hope you're having your amalgams removed by a mercury-free dentist using

proper protocol.

S S

<p>Hi. I recently took a two toxic metal test at an office of a

Holistic <br>

doctor and my results were as follows. The Pre test shows no problems <br>

and all my metals levels were ok. The post test or challenge test was <br>

done with DMSP and the test showed that my mercury levels were at 23 <br>

ug/g. My doctor tells me that I should have Chelation therapy because <br>

my mercury levels are too high. He said five treatments will be needed <br>

but reading on the internet it appears that most people had between 20 <br>

and 30 at 150 dollars per treatment. I am very confused and scared <br>

about all of this. I am having my 4 silver fillings removed next week. <br>

Any thoughts or comments on this would be highly appreciated. Thank you <br>

for your help.<br>

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I would run away, fast, from this doc. If he gave you DMPS while

you had 4 filings in your mouth, he is engaged in a very dangerous

practice. I wouldn't trust him to know what he is doing at all.

Spend some time reading in the files and ask as many questions as

you can think of. That might give you some ideas about how to

chelate safely (and less expensively!).

Anne

> > Hi. I recently took a two toxic metal test at an

office

> of a Holistic

> > doctor and my results were as follows. The Pre test shows no

> problems

> > and all my metals levels were ok. The post test or challenge

test

> was

> > done with DMSP and the test showed that my mercury levels were

at

> 23

> > ug/g. My doctor tells me that I should have Chelation therapy

> because

> > my mercury levels are too high. He said five treatments will be

> needed

> > but reading on the internet it appears that most people had

between

> 20

> > and 30 at 150 dollars per treatment. I am very confused and

scared

> > about all of this. I am having my 4 silver fillings removed next

> week.

> > Any thoughts or comments on this would be highly appreciated.

Thank

> you

> > for your help.

> >

> >

> >

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I am not sure how he can tell you exactly how many treatments you

will need. It is difficult to guage this exactly. I know that it

takes longer than 5 to get rid of metals usually. Example: my 3 year

old son, Andy Cutler looked at his hair test, he is highly toxic in

many metals..he said three years of chelation. Doing a few rounds a

month.

My specialist says it can take up to five years in some depending

how toxic and how long the exposure. I would also be wary that he

gave you chelators while you have fillings. Many holistic physicians

do chelate but don't really know about mercury.

I would get a second opinion, or use $35 to get Andy Cutler's book

Amalgam Illness. You can treat yourself much cheaper and much safer.

>

> Hi. I recently took a two toxic metal test at an office of a

Holistic

> doctor and my results were as follows. The Pre test shows no

problems

> and all my metals levels were ok. The post test or challenge test

was

> done with DMSP and the test showed that my mercury levels were at

23

> ug/g. My doctor tells me that I should have Chelation therapy

because

> my mercury levels are too high. He said five treatments will be

needed

> but reading on the internet it appears that most people had

between 20

> and 30 at 150 dollars per treatment. I am very confused and scared

> about all of this. I am having my 4 silver fillings removed next

week.

> Any thoughts or comments on this would be highly appreciated.

Thank you

> for your help.

>

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>>>For the last 2 months we have been on Lacto, by Enzymedica. My DH

& I have a hard time remembering to give him his enzyme...

How are the enzymes working out for you?

>>>I open it up, put haif over Jello...then he eats it. I am thinking

of going chewable. Then DH could give it to him easier.

Here are some chewables available and considerations with chewables:

http://www.enzymestuff.com/discussionenzymeforms.htm#4

>>>Plus when we are out (MIL house) I could give it to him.

> Do you think Houstin AFP Peptzide is a good choice?

Peptizyde would not be equivalent to Lacto...the Zyme Prime would be

in the same class as broadspectrum (all the chewables on the list at

the link are broadspectrums). Peptizyde is a strong protease which

might be helpful in addition to a broadspectrum. For chewables, it is

best to ask for a sample, or get just one bottle to test to make sure

your child will like it.

You can also consider other mixing ideas to so the enzymes are ready

to go before a meal: http://www.enzymestuff.com/discussionmixing.htm

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Sue,

Today my general practitioner mentioned

something about cartilage fusing together (which would not show up on the

x-ray); it is not as common as the bones fusing together. He told me that if

his head shape did not improve in a month (he is 4.5 months and has mild

plagio/tort) then he would order a CT scan. I would push for this; it may be

more revealing than the x-ray. I also am a newbie on the board, so I don’t

know ANYTHING about this condition, but it might be worth checking out.

Theresa

Need advice

This is my first time

writing in on this board. I have posted on the

Cranial Technologies website often but I need several inputs on this

topic so I am asking for any opinion on this matter.

My son was diagnosed with plagio/tort at 4 months of age. He was very

severe both with the plagio and the tort. He's been in PT since 3

months old and has had 4 DOC bands. He started at 5 months of age and

is now almost 17 months. So 12 months total time in DOC band. We've

seen results.....his head shape is rounder, but there is still a

significant flattening in the back. His flat spot is still pushing

forward and i have concerns over this. I know it will never be perfect

but he has only gone from 24mm to 16 mm in a year. I do have concerns

that soemthing else is going on here....something doesn't seem right. I

can still see significant facial assymentry in the mirror and i am

totally freaking out about this whole process.

We've had Xrays but no CT scans. Can anyone offer me any advice???????

Thank you

Sue

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What exactly did your doctor mean by cartilage fusing? The cartilage

is a complete covering of the brain. There are not open spot. The

sutures (spaces between bony areas) are the ones that could fuse

prematurely. Maybe I am not understanding this correctly?

>

> Sue,

>

> Today my general practitioner mentioned something about cartilage

> fusing together (which would not show up on the x-ray); it is not as

> common as the bones fusing together. He told me that if his head

shape

> did not improve in a month (he is 4.5 months and has mild

plagio/tort)

> then he would order a CT scan. I would push for this; it may be more

> revealing than the x-ray. I also am a newbie on the board, so I

don't

> know ANYTHING about this condition, but it might be worth checking

out.

>

>

>

> Theresa

>

>

>

> Need advice

>

>

>

> This is my first time writing in on this board. I have posted on

the

> Cranial Technologies website often but I need several inputs on

this

> topic so I am asking for any opinion on this matter.

>

> My son was diagnosed with plagio/tort at 4 months of age. He was

very

> severe both with the plagio and the tort. He's been in PT since 3

> months old and has had 4 DOC bands. He started at 5 months of age

and

> is now almost 17 months. So 12 months total time in DOC band. We've

> seen results.....his head shape is rounder, but there is still a

> significant flattening in the back. His flat spot is still pushing

> forward and i have concerns over this. I know it will never be

perfect

> but he has only gone from 24mm to 16 mm in a year. I do have

concerns

> that soemthing else is going on here....something doesn't seem

right. I

> can still see significant facial assymentry in the mirror and i am

> totally freaking out about this whole process.

> We've had Xrays but no CT scans. Can anyone offer me any

advice???????

>

> Thank you

> Sue

>

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No, I

didn’t understand correctly, I had two toddlers running around the doctor’s

office while I was trying to pay attention. My point is, that there is another problem

(not exactly sure what it is as apparently I misunderstood) that can be

detected on the CT scan, and after so much time and so many problems, I would

push for a CT scan. If anyone could give me some clarity about what the doctor

was talking about, that would be great!

Need advice

>

>

>

> This is my first time writing in on this board. I have posted on

the

> Cranial Technologies website often but I need several inputs on

this

> topic so I am asking for any opinion on this matter.

>

> My son was diagnosed with plagio/tort at 4 months of age. He was

very

> severe both with the plagio and the tort. He's been in PT since 3

> months old and has had 4 DOC bands. He started at 5 months of age

and

> is now almost 17 months. So 12 months total time in DOC band. We've

> seen results.....his head shape is rounder, but there is still a

> significant flattening in the back. His flat spot is still pushing

> forward and i have concerns over this. I know it will never be

perfect

> but he has only gone from 24mm to 16 mm in a year. I do have

concerns

> that soemthing else is going on here....something doesn't seem

right. I

> can still see significant facial assymentry in the mirror and i am

> totally freaking out about this whole process.

> We've had Xrays but no CT scans. Can anyone offer me any

advice???????

>

> Thank you

> Sue

>

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Hello. Wow.... 4 DOC bands over a years worth of time, starting at

5 months old and he's only had 8mm of correction. That would

concern me too. Granted, since his plagio and tort were both very

severe, the progress may not be as significant as another baby.

Personally, I would take him to a craniofacial specialist and talk

to them and also possibly get a CT scan done. There may be another

underlying problem that the X ray couldn't catch.

Good luck.

Jen :)

(24 mo), tort resolved, Hanger Band Grad

(4.5 years)

>

> This is my first time writing in on this board. I have posted on

the

> Cranial Technologies website often but I need several inputs on

this

> topic so I am asking for any opinion on this matter.

>

> My son was diagnosed with plagio/tort at 4 months of age. He was

very

> severe both with the plagio and the tort. He's been in PT since 3

> months old and has had 4 DOC bands. He started at 5 months of age

and

> is now almost 17 months. So 12 months total time in DOC band.

We've

> seen results.....his head shape is rounder, but there is still a

> significant flattening in the back. His flat spot is still pushing

> forward and i have concerns over this. I know it will never be

perfect

> but he has only gone from 24mm to 16 mm in a year. I do have

concerns

> that soemthing else is going on here....something doesn't seem

right. I

> can still see significant facial assymentry in the mirror and i am

> totally freaking out about this whole process.

> We've had Xrays but no CT scans. Can anyone offer me any

advice???????

>

> Thank you

> Sue

>

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I'd talk to your rheumatologist. When I went to Costa Rica last June

for our 25th anniversary, my RA was FAR from stable. My

rheumatologist had me increase my prednisone slightly for the week.

Other than that, I did what I wanted to do and took pain meds to help

when I over did it.

>

> I am getting ready to take my five year old son to Disney World on

Monday

> (no husband, this is a sisters trip). I got a call yesterday from

my

> Rheumatologists office to let me know that my white blood cell

count is low and that I

> should not take my next two doses of MTX (6 tabs) and then go down

to 4 tabs.

> and repeat the tests in two weeks. I am not sick, no colds or

anything this

> year (knock on wood!). I have been off of Pred. for about a month.

I am

> nervous about the pain coming back next week when I am going to be

all over the

> parks and chasing a pre-schooler. I'm not sure what to do. I do

still have a one

> week supply of 5 mg Prednisone. The only medications I am taking

are the

> MTX, Folic Acid and the once a week Leucovorin. I was just

diagnosed late in

> Oct. so this is all still pretty new to me. Does anyone have any

advice on how I

> should handle this?

> TIA,

> Dianne

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Dianne,

Please call your rheumatologist and explain the situation. He/she should be

able to advise you.

Hope you will have a great time!

Not an MD

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>I am getting ready to take my five year old son to Disney World on Monday

> (no husband, this is a sisters trip). I got a call yesterday from my

> Rheumatologists office to let me know that my white blood cell count is

> low and that I

> should not take my next two doses of MTX (6 tabs) and then go down to 4

> tabs.

> and repeat the tests in two weeks. I am not sick, no colds or anything

> this

> year (knock on wood!). I have been off of Pred. for about a month. I am

> nervous about the pain coming back next week when I am going to be all

> over the

> parks and chasing a pre-schooler. I'm not sure what to do. I do still have

> a one

> week supply of 5 mg Prednisone. The only medications I am taking are the

> MTX, Folic Acid and the once a week Leucovorin. I was just diagnosed late

> in

> Oct. so this is all still pretty new to me. Does anyone have any advice

> on how I

> should handle this?

> TIA,

> Dianne

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Lynn,

That is a problem. I would leave it alone. I think you need to

clean the drain sites after the ace wrap comes off.

Lynda

At 09:48 PM 4/14/2007, you wrote:

>I have been caring for my drains per Dr. Huang's instructions but I

>just realized there are also instructions for the drain sites. They

>say to remove the dressing from around the drain. Use soap and water

>on gauze or cotton swab to clean the drain site and the skin aournd

>it, clean once a day. When the drain site is clean/dry, put a new

>dressing to hold it down against your skin...

>

>My issue. I do not have the zip front bra on. I am wrapped up like

>a mummy in an ace bandage. It is nearly impossible to get to the

>drain sites without removing the ace wrap. I was told to keep the

>wrap on until my Monday appointment. What are your thoughts? If I

>lift up the ace I can see where the drain is stitched in and the

>gauze around it but I can't pull out the gauze because it is snugged

>inside that ace bandage.

>

>Any advice? I don't want an infection. I can send somebody a photo

>if you need to see what I am talking about. I don't know how to

>attach the photo here - sorry.

>

>Lynn

>

>PS... My nose is bright read!! Very odd.

>

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I am not sure, but I did not touch or clean mine until the bandage

was off. Love Nan

>

> I have been caring for my drains per Dr. Huang's instructions but I

> just realized there are also instructions for the drain sites.

They

> say to remove the dressing from around the drain. Use soap and

water

> on gauze or cotton swab to clean the drain site and the skin aournd

> it, clean once a day. When the drain site is clean/dry, put a new

> dressing to hold it down against your skin...

>

> My issue. I do not have the zip front bra on. I am wrapped up

like

> a mummy in an ace bandage. It is nearly impossible to get to the

> drain sites without removing the ace wrap. I was told to keep the

> wrap on until my Monday appointment. What are your thoughts? If I

> lift up the ace I can see where the drain is stitched in and the

> gauze around it but I can't pull out the gauze because it is

snugged

> inside that ace bandage.

>

> Any advice? I don't want an infection. I can send somebody a

photo

> if you need to see what I am talking about. I don't know how to

> attach the photo here - sorry.

>

> Lynn

>

> PS... My nose is bright read!! Very odd.

>

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Hi , This is where it gets hard, my suggestion is this. Ask the teacher if it'd be alright for you to make up flyers for the other parents in the center (not just the baby room), explaining what your child's helmet is for, so that you can educate them and let them know that it's okay to ask questions. Tell them that you want to do a pre emptive strike agains stares, that it would make you more comfortable. That way you're not "calling out" the mother but are getting the information out regardless. It is really up them at that point whether to do something about it. I had a similar experience but with an old co-worker who brought her son in who had VERY obvious Brachy. I ended up adding her to an email update about my son who was starbanded, send photo's of before and after, him in his band, etc. She ended up calling me and asking a bunch of questions because

she was concerned for her son. She ultimatly went for an eval, ended up repo'ing him with great success, and didn't end up needing a band. However she would never have gotten the important repo'ing info she needed had I not sent that out. It's a lot more "round about way" than the direct approach to someone who may at this point think nothings wrong and may be offended (as we all are) if someone points something out like that. Just my two cents Mother to , Starbanded 1/11/07-5/23/07candicedumerlin <candicedumerlin@...> wrote: Hi - I need some advice from you all. There is another child at Madison's daycare center who clearly has plagiocephaly. The child is probably about 9 months. I never see the mother in person to speak with her. My question is: Do you think that I should leave her a letter and some info on plagio with my contact info, in her child's mailbox? I really do not want to offend her or start any problems at the center. I feel like I am already the complaining mother because I made a big deal over a substitute teacher who clearly had herpes simplex 1 (cold sores, fever blisters, sun blisters, whatever you want to call it- it is all the same.) It would not have been a big deal, but young toddlers require a lot of contact and I saw her on 3 occassions kiss babies. That is to contagious to take risks.Anyway, what do you all

think? Should I leave some info for this parent?Thanks,, NY "In the depths of winter, I finally found there was in me an invincible summer."

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Hi ,

The first question i have is if your child is in a helmet or not ?

then if yes i would say you should put info in everyone's mailbox

about plagio, and that way you can say you just want to inform

everyone on what your baby has , then she won't be offended .... just

an idea , hope it helps .

Plagiocephaly , " candicedumerlin " <candicedumerlin@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi - I need some advice from you all. There is another child at

> Madison's daycare center who clearly has plagiocephaly. The child

is

> probably about 9 months. I never see the mother in person to speak

> with her. My question is: Do you think that I should leave her a

> letter and some info on plagio with my contact info, in her child's

> mailbox? I really do not want to offend her or start any problems

at

> the center. I feel like I am already the complaining mother

because I

> made a big deal over a substitute teacher who clearly had herpes

> simplex 1 (cold sores, fever blisters, sun blisters, whatever you

want

> to call it- it is all the same.) It would not have been a big

deal,

> but young toddlers require a lot of contact and I saw her on 3

> occassions kiss babies. That is to contagious to take risks.

>

> Anyway, what do you all think? Should I leave some info for this

> parent?

>

> Thanks,

>

> , NY

>

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Awesome advice! Very tactful, yet non-threatening.

> Hi - I need some advice from you all. There is another

child at

> Madison's daycare center who clearly has plagiocephaly. The child

is

> probably about 9 months. I never see the mother in person to speak

> with her. My question is: Do you think that I should leave her a

> letter and some info on plagio with my contact info, in her

child's

> mailbox? I really do not want to offend her or start any problems

at

> the center. I feel like I am already the complaining mother

because I

> made a big deal over a substitute teacher who clearly had herpes

> simplex 1 (cold sores, fever blisters, sun blisters, whatever you

want

> to call it- it is all the same.) It would not have been a big

deal,

> but young toddlers require a lot of contact and I saw her on 3

> occassions kiss babies. That is to contagious to take risks.

>

> Anyway, what do you all think? Should I leave some info for this

> parent?

>

> Thanks,

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> , NY

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That is a good suggestion, but do you think it will seem wierd of me to ask to do that since madison has been wearing a helmet there for 5 months already? Walsh <kew1976@...> wrote: Hi , This is where it gets hard, my suggestion is this. Ask the teacher if it'd be alright for you to make up flyers for the other parents in the center (not just the baby room), explaining what your child's helmet is for, so that you can educate them and let them know that it's okay

to ask questions. Tell them that you want to do a pre emptive strike agains stares, that it would make you more comfortable. That way you're not "calling out" the mother but are getting the information out regardless. It is really up them at that point whether to do something about it. I had a similar experience but with an old co-worker who brought her son in who had VERY obvious Brachy. I ended up adding her to an email update about my son who was starbanded, send photo's of before and after, him in his band, etc. She ended up calling me and asking a bunch of questions because she was concerned for her son. She ultimatly went for an eval, ended up repo'ing him with great success, and didn't end up needing a band. However she would never have gotten the important repo'ing info she needed had I not sent that out. It's a lot more "round about way" than the direct approach to

someone who may at this point think nothings wrong and may be offended (as we all are) if someone points something out like that. Just my two cents Mother to , Starbanded 1/11/07-5/23/07candicedumerlin <candicedumerlin > wrote: Hi - I need some advice from you all. There is another child at Madison's daycare center who clearly has plagiocephaly. The child is probably about 9 months. I never see the mother in person to speak with her. My question is: Do you think that I should leave her a letter and some info on plagio with my contact info, in her child's mailbox? I really do not want to offend her or start any problems at the center. I feel like I am already the complaining mother because I made a big deal over a

substitute teacher who clearly had herpes simplex 1 (cold sores, fever blisters, sun blisters, whatever you want to call it- it is all the same.) It would not have been a big deal, but young toddlers require a lot of contact and I saw her on 3 occassions kiss babies. That is to contagious to take risks.Anyway, what do you all think? Should I leave some info for this parent?Thanks,, NY "In the depths of winter, I finally found there was in me an invincible summer."

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no, say you have noticed looks and stuff for a while and just didnt know how to approach it until someone suggested a fklyer

On 8/21/07, Dumerlin <candicedumerlin@...> wrote:

That is a good suggestion, but do you think it will seem wierd of me to ask to do that since madison has been wearing a helmet there for 5 months already? Walsh <kew1976@...> wrote:

Hi ,

This is where it gets hard, my suggestion is this. Ask the teacher if it'd be alright for you to make up flyers for the other parents in the center (not just the baby room), explaining what your child's helmet is for, so that you can educate them and let them know that it's okay to ask questions. Tell them that you want to do a pre emptive strike agains stares, that it would make you more comfortable.

That way you're not " calling out " the mother but are getting the information out regardless. It is really up them at that point whether to do something about it.

I had a similar experience but with an old co-worker who brought her son in who had VERY obvious Brachy. I ended up adding her to an email update about my son who was starbanded, send photo's of before and after, him in his band, etc. She ended up calling me and asking a bunch of questions because she was concerned for her son. She ultimatly went for an eval, ended up repo'ing him with great success, and didn't end up needing a band. However she would never have gotten the important repo'ing info she needed had I not sent that out.

It's a lot more " round about way " than the direct approach to someone who may at this point think nothings wrong and may be offended (as we all are) if someone points something out like that.

Just my two cents

Mother to , Starbanded 1/11/07-5/23/07candicedumerlin <candicedumerlin >

wrote:

Hi - I need some advice from you all. There is another child at Madison's daycare center who clearly has plagiocephaly. The child is probably about 9 months. I never see the mother in person to speak

with her. My question is: Do you think that I should leave her a letter and some info on plagio with my contact info, in her child's mailbox? I really do not want to offend her or start any problems at the center. I feel like I am already the complaining mother because I made a big deal over a substitute teacher who clearly had herpes simplex 1 (cold sores, fever blisters, sun blisters, whatever you want to call it- it is all the same.) It would not have been a big deal, but young toddlers require a lot of contact and I saw her on 3 occassions kiss babies. That is to contagious to take risks.Anyway, what do you all think? Should I leave some info for this parent?Thanks,, NY

" In the depths of winter, I finally found there was in me an invincible summer. "

Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now

(it's updated for today's economy) at Games.

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ha ha ha.....well I think I missed that part.....how about you say it's because you've had a lot of stares and whispers, along with some parents asking questions so you just want to get the information out there. Say you don't want anyone else to go thru it and was hoping that the school would help you educate parents, as well as maybe some of the friends of parents that go to your school.....something along those lines. Dumerlin <candicedumerlin@...> wrote: That is a good suggestion, but do you think it

will seem wierd of me to ask to do that since madison has been wearing a helmet there for 5 months already? Walsh <kew1976sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote: Hi , This is where it gets hard, my suggestion is this. Ask the teacher if it'd be alright for you to make up flyers for the other parents in the center (not just the baby room), explaining what your child's helmet is for, so that you can educate them and let them know that it's okay to ask questions. Tell them that you want to do a pre emptive strike agains stares, that it would make you more comfortable. That way you're not "calling out" the mother but are getting the information out regardless. It is really up them at that point whether to do something about it. I

had a similar experience but with an old co-worker who brought her son in who had VERY obvious Brachy. I ended up adding her to an email update about my son who was starbanded, send photo's of before and after, him in his band, etc. She ended up calling me and asking a bunch of questions because she was concerned for her son. She ultimatly went for an eval, ended up repo'ing him with great success, and didn't end up needing a band. However she would never have gotten the important repo'ing info she needed had I not sent that out. It's a lot more "round about way" than the direct approach to someone who may at this point think nothings wrong and may be offended (as we all are) if someone points something out like that. Just my two cents Mother to , Starbanded 1/11/07-5/23/07candicedumerlin <candicedumerlin > wrote: Hi - I need some advice from you all. There is another child at Madison's daycare center who clearly has plagiocephaly. The child is probably about 9 months. I never see the mother in person to speak with her. My question is: Do you think that I should leave her a letter and some info on plagio with my contact info, in her child's mailbox? I really do not want to offend her or start any problems at the center. I feel like I am already the complaining mother because I made a big deal over a substitute teacher who clearly had herpes simplex 1 (cold sores, fever blisters, sun blisters, whatever you want to call it- it is all the same.) It would not have been a big deal, but young toddlers require a lot of contact and I saw her on 3 occassions kiss babies. That is to contagious to take risks.Anyway, what do you

all think? Should I leave some info for this parent?Thanks,, NY "In the depths of winter, I finally found there was in me an invincible summer." Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy)

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I have some flyers. I am going to ask if I can leave a stack at the front desk. Durocher <funwith4@...> wrote: no, say you have noticed looks and stuff for a while and just didnt know how to approach it until someone suggested a fklyer On 8/21/07, Dumerlin <candicedumerlin > wrote: That is a good suggestion, but do you think it will seem wierd of me to ask to do that since madison has been wearing a helmet there for 5 months already? Walsh <kew1976sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote: Hi , This is where it gets hard, my suggestion is this. Ask the teacher if it'd be alright for you to make up flyers for the other parents in the center (not just the baby room), explaining what your child's helmet is for, so that you can educate them and let them know that it's okay to ask questions. Tell them that you want to do a pre emptive strike agains stares, that it would make you more comfortable. That way you're not "calling out" the mother

but are getting the information out regardless. It is really up them at that point whether to do something about it. I had a similar experience but with an old co-worker who brought her son in who had VERY obvious Brachy. I ended up adding her to an email update about my son who was starbanded, send photo's of before and after, him in his band, etc. She ended up calling me and asking a bunch of questions because she was concerned for her son. She ultimatly went for an eval, ended up repo'ing him with great success, and didn't end up needing a band. However she would never have gotten the important repo'ing info she needed had I not sent that out. It's a lot more "round about way" than the direct approach to someone who may at this point think nothings wrong and may be offended (as we all are) if someone points something out like that. Just my two cents Mother to , Starbanded 1/11/07-5/23/07candicedumerlin <candicedumerlin > wrote: Hi - I need some advice from you all. There is another child at Madison's daycare center who clearly has plagiocephaly. The child is probably about 9 months. I never see the mother in person to speak with her. My question is: Do you think that I should leave her a letter and some info on plagio with my contact info, in her child's mailbox? I really do not want to offend her or start any problems at the center. I feel like I am already the complaining mother because I made a big deal over a substitute teacher who clearly had herpes simplex 1 (cold sores, fever blisters, sun blisters, whatever you want to call it- it is all the same.) It would not have been a big deal,

but young toddlers require a lot of contact and I saw her on 3 occassions kiss babies. That is to contagious to take risks.Anyway, what do you all think? Should I leave some info for this parent?Thanks,, NY "In the depths of winter, I finally found there was in me an invincible summer." Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's

updated for today's economy) at Games. -- -honoring; -11-7-2ph-11/06"We find these joys to be self evident: That all children are created whole, endowed with innate intelligence, with dignity and wonder, worthy of respect"-----Raffi

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That sounds like a great idea! If the article or flyer was put in everyone's box then she would certainly see it. I wrote an article for my moms club newsletter (http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/YGDLRlD5NydsnVGDseQNYfzLIwF-BD6ac-rfsDg6kVCYTI53QXwBWevVG59UCwWmDHXsBDfzrhpcqKy-w7k/News%20Articles%20about%20plagio%20babies%20or%20about%20helmets%20in%20genera/HelmetHeadFinal.pdf) to educate people about my son's band and was surprised when I actually heard back from a couple of people saying that they were concerned about their own child's head shape. I think including before and after pictures, either of your own child or some of the CT case studies, would really help to point out what a normal head should look like. Let us know what happens!

Molly

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-----Original Message-----From: Plagiocephaly [mailto:Plagiocephaly ] On Behalf Of WalshSent: 21 August 2007 12:12 PMPlagiocephaly Subject: Re: Need Advice

Hi ,

This is where it gets hard, my suggestion is this. Ask the teacher if it'd be alright for you to make up flyers for the other parents in the center (not just the baby room), explaining what your child's helmet is for, so that you can educate them and let them know that it's okay to ask questions. Tell them that you want to do a pre emptive strike agains stares, that it would make you more comfortable.

That way you're not "calling out" the mother but are getting the information out regardless. It is really up them at that point whether to do something about it.

I had a similar experience but with an old co-worker who brought her son in who had VERY obvious Brachy. I ended up adding her to an email update about my son who was starbanded, send photo's of before and after, him in his band, etc. She ended up calling me and asking a bunch of questions because she was concerned for her son. She ultimatly went for an eval, ended up repo'ing him with great success, and didn't end up needing a band. However she would never have gotten the important repo'ing info she needed had I not sent that out.

It's a lot more "round about way" than the direct approach to someone who may at this point think nothings wrong and may be offended (as we all are) if someone points something out like that.

Just my two cents

Mother to , Starbanded 1/11/07-5/23/07candicedumerlin <candicedumerlin@...> wrote:

Hi - I need some advice from you all. There is another child at Madison's daycare center who clearly has plagiocephaly. The child is probably about 9 months. I never see the mother in person to speak with her. My question is: Do you think that I should leave her a letter and some info on plagio with my contact info, in her child's mailbox? I really do not want to offend her or start any problems at the center. I feel like I am already the complaining mother because I made a big deal over a substitute teacher who clearly had herpes simplex 1 (cold sores, fever blisters, sun blisters, whatever you want to call it- it is all the same.) It would not have been a big deal, but young toddlers require a lot of contact and I saw her on 3 occassions kiss babies. That is to contagious to take risks.Anyway, what do you all think? Should I leave some info for this parent?Thanks,, NY

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Great Idea Molly!!!

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Re: Need Advice

Hi ,

This is where it gets hard, my suggestion is this. Ask the teacher if it'd be alright for you to make up flyers for the other parents in the center (not just the baby room), explaining what your child's helmet is for, so that you can educate them and let them know that it's okay to ask questions. Tell them that you want to do a pre emptive strike agains stares, that it would make you more comfortable.

That way you're not "calling out" the mother but are getting the information out regardless. It is really up them at that point whether to do something about it.

I had a similar experience but with an old co-worker who brought her son in who had VERY obvious Brachy. I ended up adding her to an email update about my son who was starbanded, send photo's of before and after, him in his band, etc. She ended up calling me and asking a bunch of questions because she was concerned for her son. She ultimatly went for an eval, ended up repo'ing him with great success, and didn't end up needing a band. However she would never have gotten the important repo'ing info she needed had I not sent that out.

It's a lot more "round about way" than the direct approach to someone who may at this point think nothings wrong and may be offended (as we all are) if someone points something out like that.

Just my two cents

Mother to , Starbanded 1/11/07-5/23/07

candicedumerlin <candicedumerlin > wrote:

Hi - I need some advice from you all. There is another child at

Madison's daycare center who clearly has plagiocephaly. The child is

probably about 9 months. I never see the mother in person to speak

with her. My question is: Do you think that I should leave her a

letter and some info on plagio with my contact info, in her child's

mailbox? I really do not want to offend her or start any problems at

the center. I feel like I am already the complaining mother because I

made a big deal over a substitute teacher who clearly had herpes

simplex 1 (cold sores, fever blisters, sun blisters, whatever you want

to call it- it is all the same.) It would not have been a big deal,

but young toddlers require a lot of contact and I saw her on 3

occassions kiss babies. That is to contagious to take risks.

Anyway, what do you all think? Should I leave some info for this

parent?

Thanks,

, NY

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