Vitamin question

[Guest guest]

Mag plays very important roles in body.. its a co factor in the methylation

cycle. It can help with inflammatory reactions as well.. detox capibillity

(which can play back to its role in methylation)so much more.. very very

important. Important for nervous system and deficiency can cause prblems with

nerves.. shakes, tremors...

When you use it to help elimination, it is also probably being eliminated.

Citrate is good for this.

For absorption, glycinate and malate as well as chloride are better.

For some, only transdermal or IVs an restore mag to the body.

Robin

>

> Really? What kind of benefits are you looking for from magnesium? I use it to

stay regular and without it I cannot eliminate easily. I have always had an IBS

problem that is worse now with the MCS. But what are you thinking about when you

use magnesium? Is there another benefit? Please let me know, thanks, Surella

>

[Guest guest]

What sleep medication do you take along with the magnesium?

Sue R.

>

I take cheap magnesium supplements from Walgreens and can really tell they

work. 500 mg relaxes my muscles and knocks me out so I can sleep. If I

don't take the mags and only take my sleep medicine, I can tell a

difference--the transition into sleep isn't as fast or as restful. However,

epsoms

salts in the bath are great if I'm having a particular muscle strain, which is

often.

[Guest guest]

Trazodone. I have tried everything under the sun. It's pretty much the only

thing that helps my non-restorative sleep issue. Originally an anti-depressant,

it's now used for sleep.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 23, 2010, at 7:28 PM, ssr3351@... wrote:

What sleep medication do you take along with the magnesium?

Sue R.

>

I take cheap magnesium supplements from Walgreens and can really tell they

work. 500 mg relaxes my muscles and knocks me out so I can sleep. If I

don't take the mags and only take my sleep medicine, I can tell a

difference--the transition into sleep isn't as fast or as restful. However,

epsoms

salts in the bath are great if I'm having a particular muscle strain, which is

often.

[Guest guest]

I think this is how it goes. The hotter the water the more you draw toxins out.

You will absorb more of the mag at warmer water levels. The mag sulfate in

Epsoms can relax the nervouse system more so than the mag chloride flakes, which

are more for supplementation transdermally. The sulfur in the mag sulfate can be

bothersome to some with sulfur issues.. some benefit from the xtra sulfur while

others, it causes a problem.

The swansons brand of mag cbloride flakes seems to come from the same source as

the ancient minerals which cost much more. I would love more info from swansons

directly addresssing this. They are claiming the same source... much cheaper. I

started ahving these crazy creepy feelings in my nerves that glut and methyl b12

have addressed in the past. Going to try the mag oil spray and see if it helps.

Thanks for all the great info/links Mayleen! Robin

As for epsoms:

http://www.care2.com/greenliving/use-epsom-salts-13-wonderful-ways.html#

Oh, epsom salt—who knew that such an uninspiring ingredient could inspire such

devotion? Epsom salts have amazing health benefits – really! Here are 13 ways to

use epsom salts, including a relaxing bath, a face scrub and a hair volumizer.

It's also a miracle cure, helping to get rid of splinters and reduce swelling of

sprains and bruises. One ingredient really does fit all!

I always knew that soaking in a tub full of hot water with a few cups of Epsom

Salts was good for relaxing muscles and drawing toxins from the body, but I

could never figure out why. And it wasn't until I spent some time at the Epsom

Salt Industry Council web site that I learned that epsom salts—made of the

mineral magnesium sulfate—are also a sedative for the nervous system.

When magnesium sulfate is absorbed through the skin, such as in a bath, it draws

toxins from the body, sedates the nervous system, reduces swelling, relaxes

muscles, is a natural emollient, exfoliator, and much more.

[Guest guest]

Since you brought up methylation, Epsom Salts (sulphur) is really bad if you

have the Cystathionine (sp) Beta Synthase defect as per Dr Amy Yasko. I had the

M cycle tests done & the *avoid vs need protocol* has helped tremendously. I'm

much more resilient.

> >

> > Really? What kind of benefits are you looking for from magnesium? I use it

to stay regular and without it I cannot eliminate easily. I have always had an

IBS problem that is worse now with the MCS. But what are you thinking about when

you use magnesium? Is there another benefit? Please let me know, thanks, Surella

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Kathy: If you get out of an epsom salt bath before the bath water has completely

cooled down, you will feel tired and heavy as the toxins are released as the hot

water cools. Getting out too soon will trap the toxins and can make you feel

worse. Just an idea... D

>

> Thanks to you everyone.  I'll read about them.  Sometimes epsom salt is okay

other times I feel heavy & tired after it. The sulfur I guess.

>

> Kathy

>

>  <dragonflymcs@...> Re: [] Re: Vitamin question

>

> That I have heard the Encient Minerals is the purest soruce .  I never heard

of

>

> Swanson but will look into it.  Also on the Ancient Site is a PDF that tells

you

>

> according to your weight how much you need to use.  I know someone

who benefited

>

> greatly from it who suffered from epilepsy.  She has been siezure free for 3

>

> years and always had them since being a child , she uses ancient minerals bath

>

> flakes. 

>

[Guest guest]

Have you had a sleep test.  my half got no REM sleep from mold exposure

 

 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

From: Advocate_Now <advocate_now@...>

" " < >

Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 10:35:28 PM

Subject: Re: [] Vitamin question

 

Trazodone. I have tried everything under the sun. It's pretty much the only

thing that helps my non-restorative sleep issue. Originally an anti-depressant,

it's now used for sleep.

Sent from my iPhone

[Guest guest]

My pleasure, if you hear from swanson please let us know.

 

  

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

From: listspub <listspub@...>

Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 10:45:06 PM

Subject: [] Re: Vitamin question

 

I think this is how it goes. The hotter the water the more you draw toxins out.

You will absorb more of the mag at warmer water levels. The mag sulfate in

Epsoms can relax the nervouse system more so than the mag chloride flakes, which

are more for supplementation transdermally. The sulfur in the mag sulfate can be

bothersome to some with sulfur issues.. some benefit from the xtra sulfur while

others, it causes a problem.

The swansons brand of mag cbloride flakes seems to come from the same source as

the ancient minerals which cost much more. I would love more info from swansons

directly addresssing this. They are claiming the same source... much cheaper. I

started ahving these crazy creepy feelings in my nerves that glut and methyl b12

have addressed in the past. Going to try the mag oil spray and see if it helps.

Thanks for all the great info/links Mayleen! Robin

As for epsoms:

http://www.care2.com/greenliving/use-epsom-salts-13-wonderful-ways.html#

Oh, epsom salt—who knew that such an uninspiring ingredient could inspire such

devotion? Epsom salts have amazing health benefits – really! Here are 13 ways

to

use epsom salts, including a relaxing bath, a face scrub and a hair volumizer.

It's also a miracle cure, helping to get rid of splinters and reduce swelling of

sprains and bruises. One ingredient really does fit all!

I always knew that soaking in a tub full of hot water with a few cups of Epsom

Salts was good for relaxing muscles and drawing toxins from the body, but I

could never figure out why. And it wasn't until I spent some time at the Epsom

Salt Industry Council web site that I learned that epsom salts—made of the

mineral magnesium sulfate—are also a sedative for the nervous system.

When magnesium sulfate is absorbed through the skin, such as in a bath, it draws

toxins from the body, sedates the nervous system, reduces swelling, relaxes

muscles, is a natural emollient, exfoliator, and much more.

[Guest guest]

Yes, I had a sleep test years ago. Non-restorative sleep (diminished stage 4,

the restorative part of the sleep cycle) and primary insomnia (unable to fall

asleep) has been a problem for me for over a decade. The test confirmed both. In

actuality, i have too little stage 4 because i soend too much time in REM. The

most effective treatment for me is Trazodone, but when I have to increase it, it

gives me a hangover. Better than not sleeping, though.

On Aug 23, 2010, at 11:23 PM, dragonflymcs <dragonflymcs@...> wrote:

Have you had a sleep test. my half got no REM sleep from mold exposure

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

From: Advocate_Now <advocate_now@...>

" " < >

Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 10:35:28 PM

Subject: Re: [] Vitamin question

Trazodone. I have tried everything under the sun. It's pretty much the only

thing that helps my non-restorative sleep issue. Originally an anti-depressant,

it's now used for sleep.

Sent from my iPhone

[Guest guest]

I have a CBS uregulation. I think there are two diff ones and mine is

hetergenous and the milder one. But I try to keep sulfur in mind. So far my labs

have shown I need sulfur. SO many questions..

The CBS does not allow much B6 as well, but we have pylolurria here which calls

for lots of B6.. its crazy trying to put al this together. My kids have needed

close to 100 mg of p5p to start having any dream recall at all.. which is

associate with b6. But my daughter is CBS upregulated and NOS positive.

It can make you crazy when diff conditions, protocols call for diff things.

Then there is the hydrogen sulfide issue that some CFSers have.

Whats the avoid vs need protocol?

Robin

>

> Since you brought up methylation, Epsom Salts (sulphur) is really bad if you

have the Cystathionine (sp) Beta Synthase defect as per Dr Amy Yasko. I had the

M cycle tests done & the *avoid vs need protocol* has helped tremendously. I'm

much more resilient.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Diane,

So its when the water cools that the toxins release? Do you know how this works?

The hot water alllows the toxins out or the mag in? Still confused on this one.

Thanks..

Robin

>

> Kathy: If you get out of an epsom salt bath before the bath water has

completely cooled down, you will feel tired and heavy as the toxins are released

as the hot water cools. Getting out too soon will trap the toxins and can make

you feel worse. Just an idea... D

>

>

[Guest guest]

By the 'avoid vs need protocol' I meant avoid sulphur & ammonia causing things

(high protein) & 'need' certain supplements - need methyl groups, lots of B12 &

etc. One of the first things that helped my chemical/mold freakouts (for lack of

a better word) was P5P & zinc 2 X a day as per Dr Carl Pfeiffer in Nutrition &

Mental Illness. I don't take it every day anymore mostly because I'm overwhelmed

with what I have to do to get settled here & also to save money. Someone told me

recently about his being low in sulphur & he wondered if it was that the sulphur

just wasn't doing what is is supposed to do or that it was being used up from

being a stand-in for what was really lacking. He can't wait to get his M cycle

results back ! As far as CBS not tolerating B6 ...they aren't clear enough on

the reasoning behind it. My body lets me know - a twinge of carpal tunnel . oops

haven't taken my B6 in awhile, 2 days later no carpal tunnel. Being sensitive

has it's good points - the right treatments works like a charm. I was sure I had

pyluria (sp) but didn't show on the test. They said take it while under stress -

I was always under stress on the road but who knows - maybe my body adjusted to

show a false negative.

>

> I have a CBS uregulation. I think there are two diff ones and mine is

hetergenous and the milder one. But I try to keep sulfur in mind. So far my labs

have shown I need sulfur. SO many questions..

>

> The CBS does not allow much B6 as well, but we have pylolurria here which

calls for lots of B6.. its crazy trying to put al this together. My kids have

needed close to 100 mg of p5p to start having any dream recall at all.. which is

associate with b6. But my daughter is CBS upregulated and NOS positive.

>

> It can make you crazy when diff conditions, protocols call for diff things.

>

> Then there is the hydrogen sulfide issue that some CFSers have.

>

> Whats the avoid vs need protocol?

>

> Robin

>

[Guest guest]

Interesting about the carpal tunnel.. someone posted on the pyloluria board

(HPU/KPU) that if you cannot bend our index finger to touch your hand that could

be a sign of b6 deficiency.. I dont know but thats interesting about the CT and

b6. We are going by dreams and I kept ramping up and finally my son started

remembering having dreams at around 100mg of p5p...

Dr Amy prefers you take what you need and avoid the rest.. priorotize.. I think

thats what you are saying. Like take same-e and hydroxy if you are comt++ ..

priotitize your methyl groups. Save the methl group for tumeric for

inflammation, and for for the methyl b12 or another methyl donor that mght not

be so relevant to you. Lots of brain work.

Im confused about the CBS and the NOS. My daughter is NOS++.. the science points

to I think DHA in omega 3 or just omega 3 in general not other lipids but dr A.

advices against all lipids. Our MD wants to dun a nutreval panel from genova

that is very broad sweping including an evaluation of essential fats.. it will

be good to see whtas going on there. We all have sandpaper hands in winter.. I

have a feeling this nis tied to fungus though. ANyway.. the CBS,NOS mutations

confuse me the most. I know some people, parents who ahve been doing this for

years, lyme and austism.. and they get to the point where you have to go by

reactions and put pieces together because there is no hard fast rule. We just

dont understand all the biology. I am alternating as dr a says with the Omega 6

and 3 with my kids.. and I am taking 1:1 ratio. They also get 1:1 but

alternating days, half teh dose I get.

I think alot of us have pyloluria.. both my kids do and my test was mishandled

so dont trust the results. the test is very fragile and they let it sit for

weeks before shipping to netherlands. I also have been on high dose b6 p5p and

zinc for a while so I was sooner to repsond. The kids... it has realy surprised

me how much p5p they have needed. I see Myhill and others address KPU in their

protocols without specifically referring to it.

Dr K thinks KPU is central to HLA expression. this is his opinion though and I

have no clue what he bases it on.

I read in Pat Sullivans blog that dr Shoe said that peopel who come in who take

30 supps are better off than people who are not. There have to be other factors

at play.. methylation, kpu, addressing inflammation, mag, b12 deficiencies,

whether the mold illness or lyme or whatever creates it, it becomes part of the

cycle that has to be broken.. ??

I wish there was a simple inexpensive test to monitor ammonia and sulfur. I go

by headaches for sulfur and burning in my brain for ammonia and not sure how

accurate. When I have the burning in brain, I take citrulline.

Of course I am not well, so..

Robin

>

> By the 'avoid vs need protocol' I meant avoid sulphur & ammonia causing things

(high protein) & 'need' certain supplements - need methyl groups, lots of B12 &

etc. One of the first things that helped my chemical/mold freakouts (for lack of

a better word) was P5P & zinc 2 X a day as per Dr Carl Pfeiffer in Nutrition &

Mental Illness. I don't take it every day anymore mostly because I'm overwhelmed

with what I have to do to get settled here & also to save money. Someone told me

recently about his being low in sulphur & he wondered if it was that the sulphur

just wasn't doing what is is supposed to do or that it was being used up from

being a stand-in for what was really lacking. He can't wait to get his M cycle

results back ! As far as CBS not tolerating B6 ...they aren't clear enough on

the reasoning behind it. My body lets me know - a twinge of carpal tunnel . oops

haven't taken my B6 in awhile, 2 days later no carpal tunnel. Being sensitive

has it's good points - the right treatments works like a charm. I was sure I had

pyluria (sp) but didn't show on the test. They said take it while under stress -

I was always under stress on the road but who knows - maybe my body adjusted to

show a false negative.

>

[Guest guest]

I don't have the NOS except for the effect the excess ammomia has on it. I think

the CBS is the most straightforward. I have a ++ & a +-. The latter is the 699

(Autism) - explains why I'm mentally handicapped around chems. Also explains

this bizarrre symptom I used to get - the best way to describe it is I know

exactly how it feels inside when an Autistic child goes into one of those fits.

It's much worse on the inside than it appears. Worth living in a vehicle for 5

years. I can't tell if my sulphur ever goes up. Broccoli used to make me cry &

then give me terrible heartburn. As far as ammonia I might be drawing the wrong

conclusion here but it works.... if I have a problem but then I become obsessed,

intensely worried & sleepless & stuff after awhile I realize it NOT the problem

freaking me out it's a chemical imbalance. Twice something made me think

ornithine was called for & in 20 minutes I was still upset from the problem but

not consumed by it. Made me think ammonia was the culprit.

I take Nordic Naturals 3,6,9 but not alot. It's so complicated. Kane

PhD (610) 924-0600 did work on mental patients & recommends the Body Bio fatty

acid lab analysis (888) 320-8338 She thinks it's critical to have the labs

before taking them. Lots of studies show a correlation with mental patients &

arachidonic acid (sp). It would be great to afford weekly tests of everything. I

keep saying one day you'll be able to stick your finger in some device & get a

read-out of what you need all day long.

I forgot about the dreams & P5P. Uh,oh, I AM low in P5P. I read low B6 also

makes you intolerant of MSG & glutamine.

Isn't there a urine test for sulphur? The M-cycle test in Feb 09 was my last

hurrah. I haven't done tests I have to pay for since then. Not that I spent alot

on my health (besides supplements) but money was running out. That test & the

protocol has helped me the most - feels like it's as good as it gets. Nothing

else could explain the tolerance I had last summer except, & this is VERY weird,

that I am in my " astological good zone " . I'm serious, out of desparation I had a

consult & NoCal was it. So here I am. The only other bigee was removing the last

of my root canals in 2007. Has Dr A's advice turned you around like it did me?

To me it feels like it's the bottom line of it all.

>

> Interesting about the carpal tunnel.. someone posted on the pyloluria board

(HPU/KPU) that if you cannot bend our index finger to touch your hand that could

be a sign of b6 deficiency.. I dont know but thats interesting about the CT and

b6. We are going by dreams and I kept ramping up and finally my son started

remembering having dreams at around 100mg of p5p...

>

> Dr Amy prefers you take what you need and avoid the rest.. priorotize.. I

think thats what you are saying. Like take same-e and hydroxy if you are comt++

... priotitize your methyl groups. Save the methl group for tumeric for

inflammation, and for for the methyl b12 or another methyl donor that mght not

be so relevant to you. Lots of brain work.

>

> Im confused about the CBS and the NOS. My daughter is NOS++.. the science

points to I think DHA in omega 3 or just omega 3 in general

[Guest guest]

Can you explain more. I am a little confused.  Do you know what is causing

this "

Do you have MS, fibro ?

 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

From: KathyB <calicocat477@...>

Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 10:51:55 AM

Subject: [] Re: Vitamin question

 

I'm looking to relax from with it. It's precurser to GABA. For some reason I get

the best results

w Mag Glycinate. I have burning pain in tissues from some vitamins. It's a

sensory type feeling.  I took 1/2 of B complex yesterday & the burning was 100%

worse. A little mag glycinate was the only thing that helped it slow down.

Gycinate is an anti-spasmodic.

Other lists warn that glycinate can cause ammonia. Can you check ammonia in

bloodwork or urine?

Wonder if it's sensory MS. When I sit  anywhere or lay in bed the muscle

pressure, burning gets worse. If i lean back it's frightening now. The pressure

[Guest guest]

Or maybe exaution from detox

 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

From: KathyB <calicocat477@...>

Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 3:45:10 PM

Subject: [] Re: Vitamin question

 

Thanks to you everyone.  I'll read about them.  Sometimes epsom salt is okay

other times I feel heavy & tired after it. The sulfur I guess.

Kathy

 <dragonflymcs@...> Re: [] Re: Vitamin question

That I have heard the Encient Minerals is the purest soruce .  I never heard

of

[Guest guest]

No dx. yet.  I started with a good chiropractor & will see what

he thinks it is.

I do have a sublexed thoractic vertabra

that caused pinched nerves in the past.

Kathy

From: dragonflymcs <dragonflymcs@...>

Subject: Re: [] Re: Vitamin question

Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 11:59 PM

Can you explain more. I am a little confused.  Do you know what is

causing this "

Do you have MS, fibro ?

[Guest guest]

Ive relapsed a bit here.. stress, the methl b12 shots and teh herbs I was

taking.. should have known better not to push it.. too wiped out to find my

files and look up.. I have the less troublesome CBS upgregulation +-.. you sure

were hit hard there.. I can see you ahving issues..

I can also see knowing how an autistic chlid feels.. Ive felt that way sometimes

and sometimes coudl correct with supplements. Ive woken up in the middle of the

night flapping my arms. I did some work on ammonia and I think that helped. I

take bh4 and add in citrulline when my brain burns.. I dont think i have sulfur

issues, but who knows.. thought about taking the hydrogen sulfide test.. its

cheap and urine. then there re sulfite or sulfate strips and I cant figure out

which ones to use.

I think its teh gaba glutamate thing that gete the hands flapping.. I think

someone just postd tha mag helps gaba.. ive taken gaba and my md perfers sun

theanine.. then clonapin is supposed to help with but addcitive. I do take half

a mg a day.

Do you have the suox issue which will make recycle or uptake of sulfur more

diff? Sorry my typing is worse than usual.. arms are so weak. :-(

Ill take note of your glutamate symptoms. dr a told me can also effect heart

rhythm. The tests are so expensive adn to do the protocl " right " is so

expensive. Then ot take the into and incoprorate it in a sane way is a process.

Ill take citrulline since I have it here and see if it helps when I am going

nuts.. only way ot know really.. I know ti has helped the burnding brain

feeling.

Ie read Kane stuff too.. so much info contradicts. dr A wants to protect the M

cycle first and foremost.. but to what cost her way or addressing other things?

I dont know. I give up!

Intresting about the AAs and mental illness.. goes along with pylolurria. Genova

has a nutreval test that surprisingly my insurance covered all but 170$ of.. it

has AA, MAP, UTEE, and fatty acids tests, oxidatoin, etc.. not sure how it

compares to kane's test but looked pretty extensive with the essential oil

breakddown. I just had the blood draw and turned in urine today.

I dont know how the moms of autistic kids doing the program keep up. weekly

tests for some of them. i wish there was a finger prick self home test or

something of the sort. It is nice to see teh graphs people make of thier kids

progress.. easy to see when you do tests weekly and monthly. Good to be able to

see progress and tweak along the way. But so expensive.

My husband has lyme and a " dreaded " but he is ok so I know there is more t it

that lyme and mold and " dreadeds " .. somthing else is also gonig on or its the

total body burden wipe out which will them trigger off every genetic defect and

body weakness that exist.

There is also a healing factor X in the body as there is a illness factor X. Ive

seen this several times.. know of people this has happened to. Its all very

mysterious.

Robin

>

> I don't have the NOS except for the effect the excess ammomia has on it. I

think the CBS is the most straightforward. I have a ++ & a +-. The latter is the

699 (Autism) - explains why I'm mentally handicapped around chems. Also explains

this bizarrre symptom I used to get

[Guest guest]

Thanks . They are made out of all kinds of grasses, leaves and berries. Some of the ingredients are; barley grass, fennel seed, calendula flowers, lavendar, saffron, honeysuckle, cardoman, etc. They do also contain vegetable cellulose (I dont know exactly what that is) and they are certified organic. I do love the bottle they came in, it is a lovely size glass bottle. I will use it for something else later on after they are gone. Wait, I found a link, this is them right here. I won't buy them again though, first of all because they are too expensive and second of all, they taste too green for me.

http://www.mynaturalmarket.com/Pure-Synergy-Organic-Vita-Min-Herb-Multi-for-Women.html?osCsid=39a85f27a3a7084a36884dd52f9a2f15

I guess I will just finish them up and not use them anymore. Thanks for the tips always.

[Guest guest]

Probably just as effective, but might taste funny? Let us know how it turns out!

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On Jan 21, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Navarro wrote:

I just got some new vegetarian vitamins pills that I had never tried before. They are kinda big pills and they smell like hay, they taste kinda yucky. The dosage says to take between 3-6 of them a day. I was wondering, do you think they are just as effective if I throw them in with my morning smoothie and mix them in. That's probably a dumb question huh?

[Guest guest]

I really liked your " learn to make your own vitamins using whole foods " .

How much calculating does it take to know you are getting a good balance

of vitamins using whole foods? Or do you simply use a wide variety of

foods, and know you probably got it right?

Velda

On 1/21/2012 9:57 AM, wrote:

> Not a dumb question at all...I don't recommend putting them in your smoothie.

First, they may be a " time release " type thing, meaning they should disolve over

time. Second, if they taste and smell like hay, so will your smoothie. Third,

they are bound together with binders and fillers which won't do anything for the

texture of your smoothie (I have tried such things in the past, with not so good

results!) My best suggestion would be to use up the bottle that you have, then

learn to make your OWN " vitamins " using whole foods in the Vitamix! Way

tastier, more absorbed by the body...and cheaper!

>

>

>

>

>>

>> I just got some new vegetarian vitamins pills that I had never tried before.

They are kinda big pills and they smell like hay, they taste kinda yucky. The

dosage says to take between 3-6 of them a day. I was wondering, do you think

they are just as effective if I throw them in with my morning smoothie and mix

them in. That's probably a dumb question huh?

>>

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