Vitamin question

[Guest guest]

Thank you Rashelle and Tami for your thoughts on my Dad. I truely

appreciate it.

As for the bee pollen/royal jelly; I do not know what brand my friend is

asking about. A co-worker of hers has been taking something with these 2

ingredients and has dropped a significant amount of weight.

I'll try to get in touch with her over the next week and see what the brand

is. Of course, everyone (me included in the past) wants a quick fix to

weight problems.

thanks again!

Wanda.

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In a message dated 4/2/00 11:02:27 PM Pacific Standard Time,

titanic30@... writes:

<< Hello everyone! I haven't been online for several days because my Dad

has

been in the hospital.

Hi Wanda,

I don't know anything about these products, but I am sorry to hear that

you're father has taken ill. It is good to see you on the list and I pray

the Lord will grant you strength, in this time of dealing with your father's

illness. Keep us posted and don't forget to breath, it will increase your

ability to cope with all types of stressful situations!

Sincerely,

Tami

[Guest guest]

Hi Wanda,

I am so sorry to hear about your Dad. My heart goes out to both of you. I know how difficult it is to deal with a parents' illness and it takes a great deal out of you. I hope you know we are all here for you.

As for the two products you asked about. I did extensive studies on Royal Jelly when I trained with a cosmetic chemist many years ago. The possibilities are pretty remarkable. Royal Jelly is the food that is fed to the chosen bee to make her the queen. She is not born, she is made by feeding her a substance called Royal Jelly. Some of the results are that she outlives the other bees by several times, she is larger and is able to reproduce. Royal Jelly has been used for healing severe burns and has been used to give energy. I have not heard of studies done for weight loss, but knowing some of the other benefits, it is certainly a possibility. I have taken it before, many years ago, but it has been a long time ago. I know that Bee Pollen has been used by many with good results, but I was allergic to it and did not like the way it made me feel. I have heard of others who have allergic reactions. My guess is that there would be some information on the web about both products. Do you have a specific one in mind. I would be happy to check into it for you, if you want to direct me to the particular brand you are looking at. In the Health community it is not difficult for me to check this kind of thing out for legitimacy and I would be happy to do it for you.

Take care, Wanda, I will keep you and your Father in my prayers.

Rashelle

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Hello everyone! I haven't been online for several days because my Dad has been in the hospital. In trying to catch up tonight on email a friend sent me an email asking if I know anything about taking Bee Pollen and Royal Jelly for weightloss? Since this list is so helpful to me in the past; I thought I would ask if anyone here knows of these 2 products. Thanks for your assistance!Wanda.

[Guest guest]

Wanda,

I can't answer your questions about bee pollen but I did want to tell you I'm

sorry to hear your father is in the hospital....I hope he is doing well and

won't be there for long. Thinking of you!

maggie

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/23/2002 9:54:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

aisadora@... writes:

> So I would think maybe it is TIMING ? However , I take my

> meds at 5 am and dont eat until 8 am . Then I was taking my Vitamins

> at 9am and agian before bed . I still want to take a vitamin

> supplement (I have always taken one ) but now I dont know what to

> think ??

Dear ,

Yes, it could be timing if it has <A

HREF= " http://thyroid.about.com/library/weekly/aa092101a.htm " >calcium</A> in it.

Calcium needs to be taken

away from thyroid meds by at least two hours.

Or, it could be you're allergic to something in the multi. I have often had

this problem. When I switched to an iron and iodine free multi, I've done

much better and I even feel good taking it. No more exhaustion. No more

tiredness.

Read the fine print on your multi-vitamin to see what the other ingredients

are in it. Does it declare it is free of soy? If not, it likely has it in

there and soy is a major goitrogen. Also make sure there are no powdered

goitrogens in it like powdered broccoli, spinach, kale, etc. You might be

getting too much iodine so consider trying a muliple w/o it. Twinlab

(Allergy One A Day) and Nature's Life (One Daily Multiple) are the only

companies I've found offering an iodine and/or iron free multi.

Good luck,

[Guest guest]

,

There is probably a goitrogenic ingredient in the vitamin you're

taking. I would try another vitamin supplement, but only after you've

checked all the ingredients to make sure there are no goitrogens in

it.

Best wishes,

Celeste

(from a laptop on vacation in Kona)

Isadora wrote:

> I was taking a very good quality multi vitamin. And I was feeling

> pretty bad and now I stoped taking it and three days later Im

feeling

> better . So I would think maybe it is TIMING ? However , I take my

> meds at 5 am and dont eat until 8 am . Then I was taking my

Vitamins

> at 9am and agian before bed . I still want to take a vitamin

> supplement (I have always taken one ) but now I dont know what to

> think ?? Any thoughts ???

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/23/2002 12:08:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

nabie67@... writes:

> Just to let those of you know who helped me out, I decided to go with

> the " expensive " vitamins. I got a 3 month supply and it works out to

> $66/month. Let me tell you though, THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTING FOR

> QUALITY. I love these things, I feel SO much better on these things.

> I've got energy and haven't been down/tired on them either.

Dear ,

You GO girl!! Congratulations for setting your health and well being as a

top priority!!

Give us the name of these vitamins again and a link, if there is one, where

we can check them out for ourselves? Thanks!

So happy to hear you're feeling better!

in LA

[Guest guest]

Yes, I totally agree with Celeste. I just recently took a liquid

vitamin, Total Body, and it only took me 3 days to realize something

was in this stuff that my body didn't agree with. I quit taking it

and I started to feel well. I am TOTALLY A LABEL READER and would not

take anything that would make me feel bad but something was in this

stuff and my body didn't like it.

You should take a multi, you just have to find the right one!

P.

> > I was taking a very good quality multi vitamin. And I was

feeling

> > pretty bad and now I stoped taking it and three days later Im

> feeling

> > better . So I would think maybe it is TIMING ? However , I take

my

> > meds at 5 am and dont eat until 8 am . Then I was taking my

> Vitamins

> > at 9am and agian before bed . I still want to take a vitamin

> > supplement (I have always taken one ) but now I dont know what to

> > think ?? Any thoughts ???

[Guest guest]

I had posted a similar question recently myself about multi's. This

seems to be a big topic with hypothyroid sufferers.

Just to let those of you know who helped me out, I decided to go with

the " expensive " vitamins. I got a 3 month supply and it works out to

$66/month. Let me tell you though, THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTING FOR

QUALITY. I love these things, I feel SO much better on these things.

I've got energy and haven't been down/tired on them either.

Anyway, just wanted to let you know.

P.

> > > I was taking a very good quality multi vitamin. And I was

> feeling

> > > pretty bad and now I stoped taking it and three days later Im

> > feeling

> > > better . So I would think maybe it is TIMING ? However , I take

> my

> > > meds at 5 am and dont eat until 8 am . Then I was taking my

> > Vitamins

> > > at 9am and agian before bed . I still want to take a vitamin

> > > supplement (I have always taken one ) but now I dont know what

to

> > > think ?? Any thoughts ???

[Guest guest]

> What vitamins are the " expensive " ones? Is there a big

> difference from one brand to the next if you are

> reading labels? Let me know. Jenn

I wouldn't recommend anything sold in drugstores or, these days, gas

stations!. Go to a quality health food store and buy products that

are hypo-allergic. But quality vitamins are expensive. I've been

using Thorne vitamins (http://www.thorne.com) which have been good.

I've also had great success with UltraBalance

(http://www.ultrabalance.com) -a powdered vitamin. I've always felt

energetic and alive after using this product - however, it's

expensive and I can't always afford it (such as now...).

Both these have small amounts of iodine - but I haven't found that to

be a problem. (I'm really not into product endorsement - however,

these are what I have used).

[Guest guest]

For me I couldn't swallow the large vitamin so the chewable worked great. They also have some liquid you can use. If you can swallow the large vitamin then go for it.

Suzanne

[Guest guest]

I take swallowable vitamins,the chewable are discusting !! I take my vitamins before bed,they make me queezy so this seems to help..A little trick I learned while pregnant.Hope thiss helps Marilou....

Lana

From: Marilou stone <terriertamer@...> Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 7:17:42 PMSubject: vitamin question

Is there reason for taking chewable vitamins? I really don't like them.

Marilou

Dr. Aceves

VSG~February 5, 2010

[Guest guest]

Thanks Lana! The chewable are nasty. MarilouDr. AcevesVSG~February 5, 2010 On May 5, 2010, at 6:21 AM, lana closs wrote:I take swallowable vitamins,the chewable are discusting !! I take my vitamins before bed,they make me queezy so this seems to help..A little trick I learned while pregnant.Hope thiss helps Marilou.... LanaFrom: Marilou stone <terriertamermac> Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 7:17:42 PMSubject: vitamin question Is there reason for taking chewable vitamins? I really don't like them. MarilouDr. AcevesVSG~February 5, 2010

[Guest guest]

Thanks!MarilouDr. AcevesVSG~February 5, 2010 On May 5, 2010, at 7:27 AM, SuzanneSH@... wrote:For me I couldn't swallow the large vitamin so the chewable worked great. They also have some liquid you can use. If you can swallow the large vitamin then go for it. Suzanne

[Guest guest]

Some from another list mentioned citrate in vitamins  is made from corn. Corn

can aggravate yeast & especially mold patients.

Does anyone know about it? Do most use magnesium & wha form & brands?

Thanks, Kathy 

[Guest guest]

I take cheap magnesium supplements from Walgreens and can really tell they work.

500 mg relaxes my muscles and knocks me out so I can sleep. If I don't take the

mags and only take my sleep medicine, I can tell a difference--the transition

into sleep isn't as fast or as restful. However, epsoms salts in the bath are

great if I'm having a particular muscle strain, which is often.

On Aug 22, 2010, at 7:33 PM, dragonflymcs <dragonflymcs@...> wrote:

Magnesium taken orally does little to nothing. You can get magnesium flakes to

soak in and get a much better benefit.

Do not know about the corn.

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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[Guest guest]

Okay, so flakes are different than Epsom salts? I will have to try this. Kathy,

for overall muscle relaxant and sleep, I buy Nature's Made from Walgreens, which

I think is citrate. I used to take an expensive malate form but honestly, it

didn't work as well, though I agree that it is supposed to be the best.

On Aug 22, 2010, at 10:24 PM, dragonflymcs <dragonflymcs@...> wrote:

That I have heard the Encient Minerals is the purest soruce . I never heard of

Swanson but will look into it. Also on the Ancient Site is a PDF that tells you

according to your weight how much you need to use. I know someone who benefited

greatly from it who suffered from epilepsy. She has been siezure free for 3

years and always had them since being a child , she uses ancient minerals bath

flakes.

It comes in bath flakes, trasdermal oil , I used it for My simba when he became

paralized too. After bathes with baking soda and epson salts. Simba is walking

again.

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

[Guest guest]

I would check out www.needs.com. They sell the higher grade vitamins and

supplements that usually you can only get from docs. They are often the purest

forms of supplements w//o soy, wheat, presveratives, etc But check each brand

and form for particulars. I always try to confirm by contacting the company

directly. My doc says that magnesium aspartate is good for giving energy and

magnesium malate is to be used to help you relax. I've used both thorne,

metabolic maintenance and integrative therapeutics for the above. There are

other good companies like Pure, Vital Nutirents, etc, that have magnesium in

other forms. 

I never heard about citrate being from corn, but would check that out per

company. If you call them directly they are usually very helpful. I find ones

that aren't are worth not using.

Sam

Some from another list mentioned citrate in vitamins  is made from corn.

Corn can aggravate yeast & especially mold patients.

Does anyone know about it? Do most use magnesium & wha form & brands?

[Guest guest]

Really? What kind of benefits are you looking for from magnesium? I use it to

stay regular and without it I cannot eliminate easily. I have always had an IBS

problem that is worse now with the MCS. But what are you thinking about when you

use magnesium? Is there another benefit? Please let me know, thanks, Surella

>

> Magnesium taken orally does little to nothing. You can get magnesium flakes to

> soak in and get a much better benefit. 

>

>  

>  Do not know about the corn.

>

> God Bless !!

> dragonflymcs

> Mayleen

[Guest guest]

I'm looking to relax from with it. It's precurser to GABA. For some reason I get

the best results

w Mag Glycinate. I have burning pain in tissues from some vitamins. It's a

sensory type feeling.  I took 1/2 of B complex yesterday & the burning was 100%

worse. A little mag glycinate was the only thing that helped it slow down.

Gycinate is an anti-spasmodic.

Other lists warn that glycinate can cause ammonia. Can you check ammonia in

bloodwork or urine?

Wonder if it's sensory MS. When I sit  anywhere or lay in bed the muscle

pressure, burning gets worse. If i lean back it's frightening now. The pressure

goes over the collar bone, breastbone & inside where legs connect.  I can't use

a pillow between my knees to help my back anymore.   When sit sensory pressure

from to head to toes. I can't wear a bra, have to wear loose clothes, have to

hold the seatbelt away.  We thought it was shingles, if it was I have residual

nerve pain.  I can hardly sleep.

I was improving w chiro. using applied kin. Mine moved, found one I can't

afford, trying to find another. It started slowing in the WTB but keeps getting

worse. If I don't figure out how to help it I don't know what I'm going to do.

I've never heard of anything like this.

 If anyone has let me know what you did.

Kathy

From: surellabaer <surellabaer@...>

Subject: [] Re: Vitamin question

Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 8:14 AM

Really? What kind of benefits are you looking for from magnesium? I use it

to stay regular and without it I cannot eliminate easily. I have always had an

IBS problem that is worse now with the MCS. But what are you thinking about when

you use magnesium? Is there another benefit? Please let me know, thanks, Surella

[Guest guest]

I am sending you links to the benefits of magnesium.  I just made a connection

recently.  I had IBS as well.  I got it when I came back to the states.  I

ate I

had realized later no processed foods, for the most part organic.  I had bad

IBS, when I got ill and had to change to organic my IBS suddenly disappeared. 

I

just now made the connection in analizing the past.

http://magnesiumforlife.com/product-information/why-magnesium-chloride/

http://magnesiumforlife.com/transdermal-magnesium/magnesium-the-lamp-of-life/ 

Magnesium in general is essential for the survival of our cells but takes on

further importance in the age of toxicity where our bodies are being bombarded

on a daily basis with heavy metals. Glutathione requires magnesium for its

synthesis.[1] Glutathione synthetase requires ?-glutamyl cysteine, glycine, ATP,

and magnesium ions to form glutathione. [2] In magnesium deficiency, the enzyme

y-glutamyl transpeptidase is lowered. [3] According to Dr. Blaylock, low

magnesium is associated with dramatic increases in free radical generation as

well as glutathione depletion and this is vital since glutathione is one of the

few antioxidant molecules known to neutralize mercury. [4] Without the cleaning

and chelating work of glutathione (magnesium) cells begin to decay as cellular

filth and heavy metals accumulates; excellent environments to attract deadly

infection and/or cancer.

http://magnesiumforlife.com/transdermal-magnesium/magnesium-and-cell-survival-gl\

utathione/

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

[Guest guest]

Epson salts also help with detox.  Google Detox baths

 

Main reason why I do them.  I am glad I know this because my Baby is now

walking

again. (Mr Simba) his yeast infection is much better and he waits anxiously for

his new diet.  Even tries to talk to me to hurry up.  Sits in the kitchen

while

I try to cook.

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

From: Advocate_Now <advocate_now@...>

" " < >

Sent: Sun, August 22, 2010 11:59:41 PM

Subject: Re: [] Vitamin question

 

I take cheap magnesium supplements from Walgreens and can really tell they work.

500 mg relaxes my muscles and knocks me out so I can sleep. If I don't take the

mags and only take my sleep medicine, I can tell a difference--the transition

into sleep isn't as fast or as restful. However, epsoms salts in the bath are

great if I'm having a particular muscle strain, which is often.

On Aug 22, 2010, at 7:33 PM, dragonflymcs <dragonflymcs@...> wrote:

Magnesium taken orally does little to nothing. You can get magnesium flakes to

soak in and get a much better benefit.

Do not know about the corn.

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

[Guest guest]

Yes the flakes are different than epson salts and I just poted the info on one

of the answers. 

http://magnesiumforlife.com/transdermal-magnesium/magnesium-and-cell-survival-gl\

utathione/

Much more info on magnesium for life.  Also the purity of the magnesium is

essential especially if you have MCS.  You do not need some that maybe

contaminated with heavy metals etc.

Magnesium chloride has a dramatic effect on cell life and is vastly safer to use

than aspirin. Why is magnesium chloride so effective in so many medical

situations? “Magnesium is necessary for the normal function of over 300 enzyme

systems, for muscle relaxation, immune function, cardiac function, clotting,

nerve conduction etc. Indeed I cannot think of a bodily department in which

magnesium is not essential. It prevents heart disease, cancer, blood pressure,

kidney stones and improves energy, sleep etc.†reports Dr. Sara Myhill.

 

 http://magnesiumforlife.com/product-information/magnesium-chloride-product-ana\

lysis/

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

From: Advocate_Now <advocate_now@...>

" " < >

Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 12:14:46 AM

Subject: Re: [] Re: Vitamin question

 

Okay, so flakes are different than Epsom salts? I will have to try this. Kathy,

for overall muscle relaxant and sleep, I buy Nature's Made from Walgreens, which

I think is citrate. I used to take an expensive malate form but honestly, it

didn't work as well, though I agree that it is supposed to be the best.

[Guest guest]

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/mobile/itemdetail/SWU495.html

Compare to Ancient Minerals.

There is a link that gives explanation.

Ive heard good things.. have not used the flakes but would like to. We have used

the oil, transdermal.

Robin

>

> Okay, so flakes are different than Epsom salts? I will have to try this.

Kathy, for overall muscle relaxant and sleep, I buy Nature's Made from

Walgreens, which I think is citrate. I used to take an expensive malate form but

honestly, it didn't work as well, though I agree that it is supposed to be the

best.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks to you everyone.  I'll read about them.  Sometimes epsom salt is okay

other times I feel heavy & tired after it. The sulfur I guess.

Kathy

 <dragonflymcs@...> Re: [] Re: Vitamin question

That I have heard the Encient Minerals is the purest soruce .  I never heard

of

Swanson but will look into it.  Also on the Ancient Site is a PDF that tells

you

according to your weight how much you need to use.  I know someone

who benefited

greatly from it who suffered from epilepsy.  She has been siezure free for 3

years and always had them since being a child , she uses ancient minerals bath

flakes.