Advice for Harry

[Guest guest]

9/27/2003

Last night:

G 69

L 15

Half of a glucose tablet.

Breakfast:

G 84

C 15

H 7

Two hours post Breakfast:

G 87

[Guest guest]

awesome Harry!

Re: advice for Harry

> 9/27/2003

>

> Last night:

>

> G 69

>

> L 15

>

> Half of a glucose tablet.

>

> Breakfast:

>

> G 84

>

> C 15

>

> H 7

>

> Two hours post Breakfast:

>

> G 87

>

>

[Guest guest]

9/27/2003

Last night:

G 69

L 15

Half of a glucose tablet.

Breakfast:

G 84

C 15

H 7

Two hours post Breakfast:

G 87

Lunch:

G 75

C 15

H 7

Two hours post lunch:

None taken

Supper:

G 85

C 15-18 Had extra vegetables

H 8

Two hours post supper:

G 65

Took half of a glucose tablet (2 carbs)

Lantus 15

[Guest guest]

you and that dinner Harry! Your gunna get it! LOL just kidding... hey, if

all you ate were slow acting veggie carbs like green beans, don't take a

unit for them. If you ate an entire can of green beans extra, then yes, take

1 unit of H but for a little extra green beans, or any slow acting veggie,

don't bother.

Re: advice for Harry

> 9/27/2003

>

> Last night:

>

> G 69

>

> L 15

>

> Half of a glucose tablet.

>

> Breakfast:

>

> G 84

>

> C 15

>

> H 7

>

> Two hours post Breakfast:

>

> G 87

>

> Lunch:

>

> G 75

>

> C 15

>

> H 7

>

> Two hours post lunch:

>

> None taken

>

> Supper:

>

> G 85

>

> C 15-18 Had extra vegetables

>

> H 8

>

> Two hours post supper:

>

> G 65

>

> Took half of a glucose tablet (2 carbs)

>

> Lantus 15

>

>

[Guest guest]

9/28/2003

Last night:

G 65

Took half of a glucose tablet (2 carbs), and ate a few nuts

Lantus 15

Breakfast:

G 94

C 15

H 7

Two hours post Breakfast:

G 93

[Guest guest]

way to go Harry!

Re: advice for Harry

> 9/28/2003

>

> Last night:

>

> G 65

>

> Took half of a glucose tablet (2 carbs), and ate a few nuts

>

> Lantus 15

>

> Breakfast:

>

> G 94

>

> C 15

>

> H 7

>

> Two hours post Breakfast:

>

> G 93

>

>

[Guest guest]

9/28/2003

Last night:

G 65

Took half of a glucose tablet (2 carbs), and ate a few nuts

Lantus 15

Breakfast:

G 94

C 15

H 7

Two hours post Breakfast:

G 93

Skipped lunch, but munched on nuts and wine:

Supper:

G 130

C15

H 11

Two hours post supper:

G 81

Lantus 15

[Guest guest]

nice harry! Seen that 4 unit of H at dinner drop you back down. I think 4

units lower you like 40 or so points but keep playing with that.

Re: advice for Harry

> 9/28/2003

>

> Last night:

>

> G 65

>

> Took half of a glucose tablet (2 carbs), and ate a few nuts

>

> Lantus 15

>

> Breakfast:

>

> G 94

>

> C 15

>

> H 7

>

> Two hours post Breakfast:

>

> G 93

>

> Skipped lunch, but munched on nuts and wine:

>

> Supper:

>

> G 130

>

> C15

>

> H 11

>

> Two hours post supper:

>

> G 81

>

> Lantus 15

>

>

[Guest guest]

Harry, lets go for it! For lunch, I want you to eat 30 grams of carbs and up

your humalog to 14 to see if it covers 30 grams of carbs. Do this at lunch,

but keep your breakfast and dinner all at 15 for now covering with the 7 H.

In other words, we don't want to do to much to soon. Lets see how your body

handles 30 grams of carbs at lunch tomorrow! If you don't want to, that is

fine, but I would love to see if 14 H covers it doubling up our dose for the

additional 15 grams! If you do this, get checked 1 hour, 2 hour, and 3 hour

post tests after eating lunch to watch what happens.

Re: advice for Harry

> 9/28/2003

>

> Last night:

>

> G 65

>

> Took half of a glucose tablet (2 carbs), and ate a few nuts

>

> Lantus 15

>

> Breakfast:

>

> G 94

>

> C 15

>

> H 7

>

> Two hours post Breakfast:

>

> G 93

>

> Skipped lunch, but munched on nuts and wine:

>

> Supper:

>

> G 130

>

> C15

>

> H 11

>

> Two hours post supper:

>

> G 81

>

> Lantus 15

>

>

[Guest guest]

9/29/2003

Last night:

G 81

Had a beer and some nuts, very few

Lantus 15

Breakfast:

G 85

C 15

H 7

Two hours post Breakfast:

G 95

Lunch:

G 85

C 15

H 7

Two hours post Lunch:

G 80

Supper:

G 91

C 15

H 7

Two hours post supper:

G 93

Lantus 15

[Guest guest]

Your guess about my wife not being available to test my blood sugar was

correct.

Secondly, I figure that my Humalog to grams of carbohydrates consumed if

around 1:2 then 37 grams of carbs divided by 2 would be 18 units of Humalog.

Actually it would have been 18.5, but I am conservative, so I rounded it off

to 18 instead of 19.

Re: advice for Harry

>

>

> > 9/30/2003

> >

> > Last night:

> >

> > G 93

> >

> > Glass of wine for a nightcap

> >

> > Lantus 15

> >

> > Breakfast:

> >

> > G 87

> >

> > C 15

> >

> > H 7

> >

> > Two hours post Breakfast:

> >

> > G 109

> >

> > Lunch:

> >

> > G 121 (I haven't eaten any thing since breakfast. Why did it rise so

> high?

> > Do I need more Lantus at night?

> >

> > C 34

> >

> > H 17

> >

> > Two hours post lunch:

> >

> > No reading done.

> >

> > Supper:

> >

> > G 85

> >

> > C 37

> >

> > H 18

> >

> > Two hours post supper:

> >

> > G 75

> >

> > Ate a handful of nuts.

> >

> > Lantus 15

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

look at breakfast though, for example. You take 7 units of H for 15 grams of

carbs to be 85 2 hours later. That is not exactly 1 unit of H per 2 grams of

carbs. I think you might be best to use 7 units harry like we have

calculated for the past 5 days instead of trying to break it down farther.

In other words, 7 for 15, 14 for 30, etc. and keep your meals around 30

grams etc. Just IMO... you experiment to much smiles.

regards,

Re: advice for Harry

> >

> >

> > > 9/30/2003

> > >

> > > Last night:

> > >

> > > G 93

> > >

> > > Glass of wine for a nightcap

> > >

> > > Lantus 15

> > >

> > > Breakfast:

> > >

> > > G 87

> > >

> > > C 15

> > >

> > > H 7

> > >

> > > Two hours post Breakfast:

> > >

> > > G 109

> > >

> > > Lunch:

> > >

> > > G 121 (I haven't eaten any thing since breakfast. Why did it rise so

> > high?

> > > Do I need more Lantus at night?

> > >

> > > C 34

> > >

> > > H 17

> > >

> > > Two hours post lunch:

> > >

> > > No reading done.

> > >

> > > Supper:

> > >

> > > G 85

> > >

> > > C 37

> > >

> > > H 18

> > >

> > > Two hours post supper:

> > >

> > > G 75

> > >

> > > Ate a handful of nuts.

> > >

> > > Lantus 15

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

your changing the equation again Harry. You have to use numbers that you

know work and don't change them. For example, here is what might have worked

a little better for breakfast:

G 122

** you changed this carb grams variable to 12 instead of keeping it 15 since

we know 7 units of H covers 15 grams.

C 12

should have been c 15

*** notice H 9 you took below which is not at all following the numbers we

have clearly outlined that works for you. I.E 4 units of H drops your bgs

about 30 to 40 points. Also, 7 units of H covers 15 grams of carbs. So, you

could have stuck with numbers that you know work and ate 15 grams and took

11 units of H and your 2 hour post test would have been 85 to 90.

H 9

IMO you need to stick with what you know works man and not adjust the

variables or your going to get off track just like last time man...

regards,

Re: advice for Harry

> 10/1/2003

>

> Last night:

>

> G 75

>

> Ate a handful of nuts.

>

> Lantus 15

>

> Breakfast:

>

> G 122

>

> C 12

>

> H 9

>

> Two hours post Breakfast:

>

> G 115

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hypothetically speaking, if I were to consume only 6 carbs for breakfast,

then would I consider this 6 carbs as 15 carbs for the first dose of Humalog

or 7 units of Humalog?

Re: advice for Harry

>

>

> > 10/1/2003

> >

> > Last night:

> >

> > G 75

> >

> > Ate a handful of nuts.

> >

> > Lantus 15

> >

> > Breakfast:

> >

> > G 122

> >

> > C 12

> >

> > H 9

> >

> > Two hours post Breakfast:

> >

> > G 115

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

So, once one finds something that works, then they should not change the

equation?

I already know the shape of the equation is not a linear one, but just how

much does it curve?

Only by experimenting will I know. So for breakfast in the morning, if my

glucose level is near my goal of 90, I will consume 6 carbs and dose for 15

carbs or in other words I will take 7 units of Humalog for the 6 carbs

consumed.

Then, let's see what happens.

Re: advice for Harry

> > >

> > >

> > > > 10/1/2003

> > > >

> > > > Last night:

> > > >

> > > > G 75

> > > >

> > > > Ate a handful of nuts.

> > > >

> > > > Lantus 15

> > > >

> > > > Breakfast:

> > > >

> > > > G 122

> > > >

> > > > C 12

> > > >

> > > > H 9

> > > >

> > > > Two hours post Breakfast:

> > > >

> > > > G 115

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Harry, when it comes to diabetes, yes, when you find something that works

you should not change the equation. Diabetes is a very very difficult

disease to get under control and once you have done that with a specific

equation, you should not adjust it unless *absolutely necessary* IMO.

regards,

Re: advice for Harry

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > 10/1/2003

> > > > >

> > > > > Last night:

> > > > >

> > > > > G 75

> > > > >

> > > > > Ate a handful of nuts.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lantus 15

> > > > >

> > > > > Breakfast:

> > > > >

> > > > > G 122

> > > > >

> > > > > C 12

> > > > >

> > > > > H 9

> > > > >

> > > > > Two hours post Breakfast:

> > > > >

> > > > > G 115

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

10/1/2003

Last night:

G 75

Ate a handful of nuts.

Lantus 15

Breakfast:

G 122

C 12

H 9

Two hours post Breakfast:

G 115

Lunch:

G 118

C 15

H 10

Two hours post lunch:

G not taken

Supper:

G 122

C 10

H 11

Two hours post supper:

G 118

Lantus 15

[Guest guest]

10/2/2003

Last night:

G 118

Lantus 15

Breakfast:

G 121

C 15

H 11

Two hours post breakfast:

G 125

Lunch:

G 103

C 15

H 11

Two hours post lunch:

G 95

Supper:

G 125 (I consumed no carbs since lunch)

C 15

[Guest guest]

corrected log:10/2/2003

Last night:

G 118

Lantus 15

Breakfast:

G 121

C 15

H 11

Two hours post breakfast:

G 125

Lunch:

G 103

C 15

H 11

Two hours post lunch:

G 95

Supper:

G 119

C 15

H 12

Two hours post supper:

G 113

Lantus 15

[Guest guest]

IMO stick with the 15 grams/7 H tomorrow so you can get your body back to

normal ... and use the 4 H to tackle high bgs to drop you 30 points... after

tomorrow you should be back to normal bgs ranges.

Re: advice for Harry

>

>

> corrected log:10/2/2003

>

> Last night:

>

> G 118

>

> Lantus 15

>

> Breakfast:

>

> G 121

>

> C 15

>

> H 11

>

> Two hours post breakfast:

>

> G 125

>

> Lunch:

>

> G 103

>

> C 15

>

> H 11

>

> Two hours post lunch:

>

> G 95

>

> Supper:

>

> G 119

>

> C 15

>

> H 12

>

> Two hours post supper:

>

> G 113

>

> Lantus 15

>

>

[Guest guest]

10/3/2003

Breakfast:

G 138

C 15

H 13

Two hours post Breakfast:

G 144

Walked 1.5 miles

Lunch:

G 97

C 15

H 8

Gone until Sunday.

[Guest guest]

good job Harry. You know, you may have to stick at 15 grams per meal if you

get unpredictable results at higher values. I.E when you started trying 30

grams the crap hit the fan so maybe 15 grams is your limit for tight bgs

control per meal. Everyone has a limit. Mine is 30 grams. If I eat more than

that per meal, I get unpredictable results and run high or low from taking

to much humalog or my insulin to carb ratios just aren't working as well

past 30 grams etc. Right at 30 grams per meal, I'm cool. Everyone's carb

grams per meal limit is a YMMV issue.

regards,

Re: advice for Harry

> 10/8/2003

>

> Last night:

>

> Two hours post supper:

>

> G 97

>

> Lantus 15 Did not use a new insulin vile of Lantus, since the old one was

> just fine and had an expiration date in 2005, when kept refrigerated,

which

> I do.

>

> Celebrated by eating nuts.

>

> Fasting blood sugar today:

>

> G 112

>

> Skipped breakfast, since I slept in late and was not hungry.

>

> Lunch:

>

> G 133

>

> C 15

>

> H 13

>

> Two hours post lunch:

>

> G 79

>

>

[Guest guest]

I will try once again consuming 30 grams of carbs at a meal and doubling my

Humalog to see if I can maintain close control. It would be nice if I can,

since a hamburger in a bun with lettuce and tomato and onion, one of my

delights, contains around 30 grams of carbs. I hope I can eat a hamburger

from time to time.

Any way I won't try this experiment until I have at least four or five days

of tight glucose control with a maximum of 15-17 grams of carbs per meal.

Re: advice for Harry

> good job Harry. You know, you may have to stick at 15 grams per meal if

you

> get unpredictable results at higher values. I.E when you started trying

30

> grams the crap hit the fan so maybe 15 grams is your limit for tight bgs

> control per meal. Everyone has a limit. Mine is 30 grams. If I eat more

than

> that per meal, I get unpredictable results and run high or low from taking

> to much humalog or my insulin to carb ratios just aren't working as well

> past 30 grams etc. Right at 30 grams per meal, I'm cool. Everyone's carb

> grams per meal limit is a YMMV issue.

>

> regards,

>

[Guest guest]

you know harry, you could eat an open face hamburger... pitch the top bun

and then cut the carb count in half. I do this myself, just a suggestion...

Re: advice for Harry

>

>

> > good job Harry. You know, you may have to stick at 15 grams per meal if

> you

> > get unpredictable results at higher values. I.E when you started trying

> 30

> > grams the crap hit the fan so maybe 15 grams is your limit for tight bgs

> > control per meal. Everyone has a limit. Mine is 30 grams. If I eat more

> than

> > that per meal, I get unpredictable results and run high or low from

taking

> > to much humalog or my insulin to carb ratios just aren't working as well

> > past 30 grams etc. Right at 30 grams per meal, I'm cool. Everyone's carb

> > grams per meal limit is a YMMV issue.

> >

> > regards,

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

10/9/2003

Last night:

Two and a half hours post supper:

G 92

Lantus 15

Breakfast:

G 107

C 15

H 8

Two hours post breakfast:

G 120

Lunch:

G 120

C 15

H 12

Two hours post lunch:

G 70

Ate a couple of popsickles